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6 political questions i thought up at work

My Representation
06-10-2004, 19:28
I haven't had much to do at work for the last two days and I am used that time well by contemplating politics. I noted down on 6 questions:

1 The Tories, in Britain, are going on the offensive on drugs and promising that they WILL be successful. Are drug laws enforceable? It is often said that a majority support the drug laws, but that is not enough to ensure the law works. To get a law being fully respected, you need about 90% of the population to support it. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that 20% of the British public think that drug laws are too harsh and that causes big bring problems for respecting those laws. Also, although there may be a majority who support the laws verbally, how many people would bother ringing the police about drug use, unless it directly effected them? If you are walking down a road and see a burglary or an assault, you would probably be willing to tell the police - or a decent majority would anyway. If you see some kids shooting heroin or smoking cannabis, how many would ring the police about that? Very, very few, I'd suggest. Are these laws unenforceable?

2 Anyone who has tried both cannabis and alcohol will testify that alcohol is the more dangerous drug. Alcohol makes people violent, stubborn, whilst cannabis makes people peaceful and agreeable. Alcohol is worse for your health than cannabis is. You may say that this doesn't mean that cannabis should be legalised, but that alcohol should be illegalised - but, of course, no-one thinks it is practical to ban alcohol. Is it moral for a state to punish a cannabis user and not an alcohol user, when the latter is a greater risk both to themselves and to society? Is this not a hypocritical state?

3 Mutually Assured Destruction was the cornerstone of British foreign policy during the Cold War. During the debate on the Iraq War, Blair made it clear that Hussein would use his weapons against us. But isn't that what the nuclear deterrent was supposed to prevent? So if this nuclear section isn't doing its job of deterring the tyrants of the world, why exactly do we keep it? It's expensive enough.

4 People say the death penalty is the ultimate deterrent, because no-one wants to die. However, look at how many people jump at going to war. There is a strong possibility that you will die at war, yet this does not seem to deter everybody. Isn't is strange how some right-wing politicians will say that the death penalty is a good deterrent and then talk about risking death in war as if it was the most rational thing one could do? Drug abuse is another example of people risking their lives. Boxing and brutal sports as well. Even things like bungee jumping and parachuting. On top of this, statisticians seem to think that the death penalty has no effect at all on deterring murder. Isn't it time this argument was abandoned?

5 Al-Qaida's aim was to overthrow corrupt Arab regimes and replace them with Islamic states. They originally targetted America not because of any "hatred of American values", but because they supported the corrupt regime in Saudi Arabia and also Israel. If America did adopt a policy of non-intervention in the Middle East, would Al-Qaida forget about America and focus on their original enemies? [On this note, the idea that Saddam Hussein was linked to Al-Qaida is about as credible as saying that the Pope is linked to the Church of Satan].

6 Every country provides a basic standard of living for their prisoners. They get food, exercise, often reading material, sometimes even personal educators and psychiatrists. Is it justifiable to provide such welfare for prisoners which is not provided for the poorest members of the non-criminal population?
Eutrusca
06-10-2004, 19:55
I only quoted you on those about which I have some sort of comment.


2 Anyone who has tried both cannabis and alcohol will testify that alcohol is the more dangerous drug. Alcohol makes people violent, stubborn, whilst cannabis makes people peaceful and agreeable. Alcohol is worse for your health than cannabis is. You may say that this doesn't mean that cannabis should be legalised, but that alcohol should be illegalised - but, of course, no-one thinks it is practical to ban alcohol. Is it moral for a state to punish a cannabis user and not an alcohol user, when the latter is a greater risk both to themselves and to society? Is this not a hypocritical state?cannabis into the mix.
Two wrongs don't make a right. Alcohol is bad enough by itself. Don't add

4 People say the death penalty is the ultimate deterrent, because no-one wants to die. However, look at how many people jump at going to war. There is a strong possibility that you will die at war, yet this does not seem to deter everybody. Isn't is strange how some right-wing politicians will say that the death penalty is a good deterrent and then talk about risking death in war as if it was the most rational thing one could do? Drug abuse is another example of people risking their lives. Boxing and brutal sports as well. Even things like bungee jumping and parachuting. On top of this, statisticians seem to think that the death penalty has no effect at all on deterring murder. Isn't it time this argument was abandoned?
The death penalty is no deterrent. If people are sufficiently enraged or sufficiently insane to kill someone, they don't have the capacity to stop and think about the death penalty.

5 Al-Qaida's aim was to overthrow corrupt Arab regimes and replace them with Islamic states. They originally targetted America not because of any "hatred of American values", but because they supported the corrupt regime in Saudi Arabia and also Israel. If America did adopt a policy of non-intervention in the Middle East, would Al-Qaida forget about America and focus on their original enemies?

Osama bin Laden was enraged at America because American forces were quartered on what he considered to be "sacred soil" in Saudi Arabia, because he holds American in contept due to his "religion," and because he and many other Muslims want to create a new Caliphate with it's "proper" place in the world.
Gurning
06-10-2004, 19:57
1) The Tories are trying to play the law and order card to shore up support among their supporters. Prohibition is unenforceable.

2) All narcotics should be legalised. A government saying what you can and can’t consume is immoral.

3) An independent NBC arsenal allows independent policy. The French did the same for similar reasons. The cold war is over, and its policies are now no longer relevant.

4) The death penalty cannot be linked to war, drug use or boxing. It is a punishment for an offence. Punishment in all its forms, be it a death sentence, life in prison, or community service does not prevent crime.

5) Leaving them alone to their own devices in the Middle East, would have been a mistake; as it would have given an anti-western group control over oil and gas sold to the west.

6) I doubt that many countries do that. You want socialism for all I take it?
My Representation
06-10-2004, 20:16
6) I doubt that many countries do that. You want socialism for all I take it?

I'm the sort of person who was originally a socialist, then began to go off in when I studied economics and when I came to the conclusion that the sort of high ethical behaviour envisioned by socialists is unachievable, until I became more right-wing than left. These questions do all seem to be left-leaning, but I am generally now a Tory on issues like the E.U., health, education and taxes - just not on social issues.

I don't know what prisons in Texas are like, although I've heard that they're quite tough there. In Britain, there are convicted murderers who end up being provided with great education. It doesn't seem to right to me that they do, when so many decent people don't get that. Cut some of the funding for that and put it into education, why not?