NationStates Jolt Archive

I like big cars, big boats, big motorcycles, big houses and big campfires. I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some governmental stooge with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away to crack addicts for squirting out babies. Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing makes you a killer. You can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car, but no one is trying to ban you from driving to the ball game. I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for a reason, that is why there are no girls allowed. Girls belong in the Girl Scouts!

I think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is not a phobia it is an opinion. I don't think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except numbers. The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America. Try to have things like the United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss White America and see what happens. Jesse Jackson will be knocking down your door.

I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird, or tick me off. When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not racial profiling, it is the law of statistics.

I believe that if you are selling me a milk shake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American citizen you should have to speak English! My father and grandfather should not have died in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours.

I think the police should have every right to shoot your sorry butt if you threaten them after they tell you to stop. If you can't understand the word "freeze" or "stop" in English, see the above lines.

I feel much safer letting a machine with no political affiliation recount votes when needed. I know what the definition of lying is. I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you are qualified for any special loan programs, government sponsored bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can open a hotel, coffee shop, trinket store, or any other business. We did not go to the aid of certain foreign countries and risk our lives in wars to defend their freedoms so that decades later they could come over here and tell us our constitution is a living document and open to their interpretations.

I don't hate the rich I don't pity the poor.

I believe a self-righteous liberal or conservative with a cause is more dangerous than a Hell's Angel with an attitude.

I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue to make more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the next operating system that's better and put your name on the building.

Ask your buddy that invented the Internet to help you.

It doesn't take a whole village to raise a child right, but it does take a parent to stand up to the kid and smack his/her little butt when necessary and say,"NO"!

I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please don't pretend they are a political statement. And please stay home until that new lip ring heals, I don't want to look at your ugly infected mouth as you serve me French fries!

I am sick of "Political Correctness" and of all the suck ups that go along with it. I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa, so how can they be "African Americans"?

Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go around saying I am a European American because my great, great, great, great, great, great Grandfather was from Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else.

And if you don't like my point of view, tough! GET OVER IT!!! WAKE-UP WHILE YOU STILL HAVE A COUNTRY TO WAKE UP TO!!

If you are not ashamed of America, forward this to everyone in your address book while you can still do it for free!

"In God We Trust" If you don't like it in the schools, DON'T SPEND MONEY!!

Wow, your the greatest stereotype alive. Congratz. Homophobia doesn't mean a fear of gays you nit-wit, it's disliking or being against it. It's a pretty lamn opinoin, thats like me saying "OH LOOK AT ME I"M A RACIST PIG BUT YOU CAN"T CALL ME THAT CAUSE IT"S MYYYY OPINION BLA BLA BLA" etc By the way yes I do think your a facist racist pig :).

On the girls and boys scout thing...what the truck are you on about?

I beleive your wanking off to a picture of yourself.

Shock you didn't call them freedom fries.

Your a jerk. And if you don't like my view than shut the hell up.

Homophobia doesn't mean a fear of gays you nit-wit, it's disliking or being against it.

Yes, it does mean "fear of gays," and it's meant to imply that disliking or opposing homosexuality is akin to being afraid of homosexuals. Nitwit.

Heeeheheheheh

Yes, it does mean "fear of gays," and it's meant to imply that disliking or opposing homosexuality is akin to being afraid of homosexuals. Nitwit.

OMG THE GAYS ARE COMING RUN FOR THE FRIGGIN HILLS! What ya think I'm gonna glitter you to death. ANywho the guy who coined it meant it as contempt for lesbians and gay men.

This guy thinks he's a purist or something. Why don't you go join a Nazi group, I'm sure you'd fit right in.

Doesn't it feel good to vent? Then again, reading this is just as satisfying as venting myself. Good post, enjoyed it a lot.

Interesting how much a point of view matters in debating a liberal. While I proudly admit to liberals that I am a conservative, nearly all liberals I have met shrink away from that label. They prefer "progressives" or "moderates" as if that means they like to consider all sides of an issue before making up their own mind (As if we conservatives don't). That's just a nice way of saying that they follow the herd. I know liberals reading this will respond and say that I am the sheep, so you can save your breath.

I don't mean that all liberals are sheep, just that the vast majority that I encounter are. Very few that I have met openly say they are liberal. As to the 5 people in the US who are undecided in the presidential race, I would like to remind everyone who watches the Daily Show what was said on their spoof of a focus group: "WHAT THE F--- ARE YOU PEOPLE THINKING? DON'T YOU HAVE A BRAIN? JUST PICK SOMEONE! THE CANDIDATES HAVE CLEAR CONTRASTS: BUSH IS A CONSERVATIVE, KERRY IS A LIBERAL! PICK ONE, FOR GOD'S SAKE!" Of course, this was said after watching so-called "undecided" voters move around in their chairs for a few minutes until they could finally decide where to sit. heh, love the Daily Show.

Yeah, I'm just rambling but you would be too after a 12 hour work day and only 5 hours until your next class tomorrow...err today.

OMG THE GAYS ARE COMING RUN FOR THE FRIGGIN HILLS! What ya think I'm gonna glitter you to death. ANywho the guy who coined it meant it as contempt for lesbians and gay men.

This guy thinks he's a purist or something. Why don't you go join a Nazi group, I'm sure you'd fit right in.

Heil Hitler.

Doesn't it feel good to vent? Then again, reading this is just as satisfying as venting myself. Good post, enjoyed it a lot.

Interesting how much a point of view matters in debating a liberal. While I proudly admit to liberals that I am a conservative, nearly all liberals I have met shrink away from that label. They prefer "progressives" or "moderates" as if that means they like to consider all sides of an issue before making up their own mind (As if we conservatives don't). That's just a nice way of saying that they follow the herd. I know liberals reading this will respond and say that I am the sheep, so you can save your breath.

I don't mean that all liberals are sheep, just that the vast majority that I encounter are. Very few that I have met openly say they are liberal. As to the 5 people in the US who are undecided in the presidential race, I would like to remind everyone who watches the Daily Show what was said on their spoof of a focus group: "WHAT THE F--- ARE YOU PEOPLE THINKING? DON'T YOU HAVE A BRAIN? JUST PICK SOMEONE! THE CANDIDATES HAVE CLEAR CONTRASTS: BUSH IS A CONSERVATIVE, KERRY IS A LIBERAL! PICK ONE, FOR GOD'S SAKE!" Of course, this was said after watching so-called "undecided" voters move around in their chairs for a few minutes until they could finally decide where to sit. heh, love the Daily Show.

Yeah, I'm just rambling but you would be too after a 12 hour work day and only 5 hours until your next class tomorrow...err today.

If you already know what we're going to say, is it not better to remain humble? Maybe you are just meeting gullible people, they would fall in the same catergory as sheep conservatives. Don't bother slicing and dicing.

Heil Hitler.

Pig.

Pig.

Mm, pork.

EDIT: And ham and bacon, too.

P.S.---Jew-devil.

Oh crikey... I'm fairly new here, so maybe this post is some perverse bit of performance art, but in case it's not....

I like big cars, big boats, big motorcycles, big houses and big campfires. I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some governmental stooge with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away to crack addicts for squirting out babies.

And pray tell where do you make this money? In a printing press in your basement? Then that would be counterfeiting money. No, take a nice look at any dollar bill. It tells you that it is a federal reserve note, signed by the federal treasurer and Secretary of the Treasury. What this means is, you wouldn't have any freaking money if it weren't for the government. The roads that you drive on to get to work? Paid for and built through the government; no private agency would have had the werewithal to build the interstate system. And why exactly do you think those little pieces of paper with 1s, 5s, 10s, etc., are worth anything? Why aren't they just pocket lint? Because the federal government keeps a store of gold to back those bills and coins. I'm sure you work hard in your part of the exchange with your employer, which results in them giving you a certain amount of money. But don't delude yourself into thinking that the government exists only to take your money from you. They make it possible for you to have it in the first place. As to your fondness for large things, I imagine you're trying to overcompensate.

Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing makes you a killer. You can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car, but no one is trying to ban you from driving to the ball game. I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for a reason, that is why there are no girls allowed. Girls belong in the Girl Scouts!

Except the prevalence of guns makes it easier for killings to occur. They are weapons that can be used at a distance and make the dehumanization of the victim easier. Knives, bats, etc., require the attacker to get up close to the victim, and as such are less likely to be used in heat of the moment killings. I don't see a reason why we need to have separate Scout troops at all. Why not just one inclusive organization called Scouts?

I think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is not a phobia it is an opinion. I don't think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except numbers. The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America. Try to have things like the United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss White America and see what happens. Jesse Jackson will be knocking down your door.

If you think homosexuality is wrong, it is an opinion, but it could also be a paranoid (in a non-clinical sense), damn fool opinion. Having an opinion doesn't make that opinion sensible. The United Negro College Fund exists to assist a historically disenfranchised group of people pay for higher education. It does not exist to harm white people they way, oh, a really discriminatory organization (say, the Ku Klux Klan) would. Jet, BET and Miss Black America exist to counteract the privileging of Caucasians as beautiful -- that is, if so much of media were not already racist, the aforementioned groups would not need to exist. If you want to know more about how whites present themselves as the true standards of beauty and tend to horde the wealth and blame non-whites for wanting their fair share, try reading Richard Dyer's White and George Lipschitz'sThe Possessive Investment in Whiteness.

I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird, or tick me off. When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not racial profiling, it is the law of statistics.

Yes, you have that right, and we have the right to point out that you are being irrational at best and hateful at worst. You also assume that all persons in a city are equally likely to commit crime, and therefore the racial breakdown of the city will mirror the racial breakdown of its crime rate. Setting aside your assumption that social factors play no role in crime (i.e. that need tends to create acts which are labeled criminal), your assumption that arrests equal perpetration is not valid. Studies have demonstrated that non-whites are more likely to be arrested, tried and convicted for crimes than whites are of the same crimes. A 1990 study by the National Institute on Drug Abuse indicated that most recreational drug users are white (77%), yet African Americans are four times as likely to go to jail for drug offenses (Lipschitz 10).

I believe that if you are selling me a milk shake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American citizen you should have to speak English! My father and grandfather should not have died in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours.

And how does not speaking English disrespect our country? Especially considering that many of its early settlers didn't speak it. And the original inhabitants didn't. And if we were to ask your father and grandfather what they died for (I assume in foreign wars), I highly doubt "to protect English as the language of the United States of America!" was high on their list of reasons.

I think the police should have every right to shoot your sorry butt if you threaten them after they tell you to stop. If you can't understand the word "freeze" or "stop" in English, see the above lines.

Define "threaten."

I feel much safer letting a machine with no political affiliation recount votes when needed. I know what the definition of lying is. I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you are qualified for any special loan programs, government sponsored bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can open a hotel, coffee shop, trinket store, or any other business. We did not go to the aid of certain foreign countries and risk our lives in wars to defend their freedoms so that decades later they could come over here and tell us our constitution is a living document and open to their interpretations.

Except that machines can be programmed by people with political affiliations, and are subject to malfunctions that can throw vote tallies off. Which would not be an insurmountable problem if Diebold was not so unwilling to open their machines to inspection. Unfortunately, they think "trade secrets" are more important than voting integrity. I know what the definition of lying is, too. This nation is founded on people born in other countries coming over here for special breaks, and I don't see any reason to stop the special breaks now. I don't see why country of origin means someone cannot read our constitution, understand its role in history and comment on it. Intelligence is not something inherent to the air or food or water of one country.

I don't hate the rich I don't pity the poor.

I believe a self-righteous liberal or conservative with a cause is more dangerous than a Hell's Angel with an attitude.

I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue to make more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the next operating system that's better and put your name on the building.

Ask your buddy that invented the Internet to help you.

I don't hate the rich or the poor, but I am aware of the social structures that contribute to why one group is rich and another poor. Self-righteous liberals and conseravtives rarely beat people to death. I don't know how often Hell's Angels do that, either, but they've been captured on film doing it. Bill Gates ripped a lot of Windows off from Macintosh; his genius is not in creation, but in marketing. He is, evidently, trying to do good with his money, though. The Internet was not created by any one person, although the U.S. Military (gasp! the government!) was partially responsible for its implementation in the United States because they wanted a decentralized communications system. Al Gore never claimed to invent it, either.

It doesn't take a whole village to raise a child right, but it does take a parent to stand up to the kid and smack his/her little butt when necessary and say,"NO"!

Education is a social responsibility, because we are educating children on how to behave in society.

I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please don't pretend they are a political statement. And please stay home until that new lip ring heals, I don't want to look at your ugly infected mouth as you serve me French fries!

OK. I don't have any piercings, though. And I don't work at McDonalds.

I am sick of "Political Correctness" and of all the suck ups that go along with it. I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa, so how can they be "African Americans"?

Talk to Pat Buchanan, et al., about their fear that America is losing its European-American character. It doesn't refer to birth country, but heritage. In the same way that people of Italian descent will refer to themselves as Italian American.

Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go around saying I am a European American because my great, great, great, great, great, great Grandfather was from Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else.

See above. As to the continent/country issue, I believe African American is used as a catch-all phrase because many Black people may not know exactly where in Africa they can trace their ancestry, although they can trace it back there. Of course, race wouldn't be too much of an issue if white people weren't so bound up in it, but there you go.

And if you don't like my point of view, tough! GET OVER IT!!! WAKE-UP WHILE YOU STILL HAVE A COUNTRY TO WAKE UP TO!!

If you are not ashamed of America, forward this to everyone in your address book while you can still do it for free!

I am awake, though pretty sleepy. And the graver threat to this country isn't people who point out that whites and capitalists don't have a corner on the truth, it's the conservatives who believe "law and order" are more important than human rights, and would dearly love to codify that belief. I am not ashamed of America, though I am ashamed of the actions of the people who lead it right now.

"In God We Trust" If you don't like it in the schools, DON'T SPEND MONEY!!

Only public schools are forbidden from promoting religion and thus unable to discuss God except in comparative religion courses. As they are public schools, they are funded mostly with taxes. And, currently, we do not have the right to select where our money goes when we pay our taxes. So not spending the money isn't really an option, now is it?

ETA: I am damn proud to call myself a liberal, and think that anyone who isn't is pusillanimous (assuming they hold leftist values).

Oh crikey... I'm fairly new here, so maybe this post is some perverse bit of performance art, but in case it's not....

Actually, it's a well-known chain E-mail that's been going around for a few years now. I've seen it attributed to Ted Nugent, though I don't believe he's the author.

Interesting how much a point of view matters in debating a liberal. While I proudly admit to liberals that I am a conservative, nearly all liberals I have met shrink away from that label. They prefer "progressives" or "moderates" as if that means they like to consider all sides of an issue before making up their own mind (As if we conservatives don't). That's just a nice way of saying that they follow the herd. I know liberals reading this will respond and say that I am the sheep, so you can save your breath.
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Well wasn't that enlightening... anyways, the reason alot of what you would call "liberals" don't refer themselves as "liberals" is really quite simple. Liberalism is such a vague term today that it can really apply to both sides of the political spectrum. In fact, you as a conservative, would probably support the ideals of classical liberals... that is, free market capitalism, small government, individual rights above all else, or, do you disagree with the ideas and are of the move classical consevative(re: Burke) Democracy bad, traditionalism rules etc.?

Mm, pork.

EDIT: And ham and bacon, too.

P.S.---Jew-devil.

So are Nazi? Oh lordy *rolls eyes* welcome to the 1930's.

So are Nazi? Oh lordy *rolls eyes* welcome to the 1930's.

Clearly. I'm such a Nazi, in fact, that I'm going to correct your poor grammar:

"So you are a Nazi? Oh, lordy. (I roll my eyes.) Welcome to the 1930's."

Clearly. I'm such a Nazi, in fact, that I'm going to correct your poor grammar:

"So you are a Nazi? Oh, lordy. (I roll my eyes.) Welcome to the 1930's."

Why thank you. Now actually read it darlin'.

You sound like one who leans to the right.
Tehok, I have to ask what how you feel about war and nation-building? Do you support conscription? Who was the greatest president of the 20th century? Of all time?

You sound like an uneducated paleo-conservative, but I'm not sure. I don't mean that as an insult; most people are uneducated.

Sounds like Nugent. The 'rats responded to it like it was Nugent. Sweet.

As for who I am:
I'm a student at a California State University who's having a small bout with sanity given a logic course and the upcoming elections. The first person I ever voted for was the Terminator because I thought it would be funny if he actually won, then he did and things worked out great. I made a German exchange student spend my textbook money on cognac and I work fifty hours a week, in addition to 17 course credits, as a butcher. The greatest president ever, I think, was Taft, because he was such a fatass he couldn't fit in a normal tub and I find that hilarious. I'm pro-Iraq because the people who are fighting and dying over there are pro-Iraq. My grasp of liberalism is basically skinny white people taking my wages and giving them to women for abortions wherein I'm completely not responsible for the initial impregnation, my grasp of conservatism is basically fat white people leaving my damn money right where it damn well is, in my damn well pocket. I don't think there are a lot of issues that can't be solved by arm wrestling or drunken arm wrestling, I think the world would be better off if Islam stopped sucking so hard, and I have all of my teeth. I'm anti-gay because I know what we do with those things and I think that, while heterosexuality may be a cruel two-way joke, homosexuality is just demented. I hate the taste of glitter, neon paint is the devil, tattoos make a man cool, and piercings make good handholds. So, to sum it all up, I'm mildly educated, I think the left is super sensitive and the right is nuts, but nuts wins my vote. I prefer latinas, but every other race is fine by me, I was born in April, and no, my psychic friend does not know where George Bush is hiding UBL.

Sounds like Nugent. The 'rats responded to it like it was Nugent. Sweet.

As for who I am:
I'm a student at a California State University who's having a small bout with sanity given a logic course and the upcoming elections. The first person I ever voted for was the Terminator because I thought it would be funny if he actually won, then he did and things worked out great. I made a German exchange student spend my textbook money on cognac and I work fifty hours a week, in addition to 17 course credits, as a butcher. The greatest president ever, I think, was Taft, because he was such a fatass he couldn't fit in a normal tub and I find that hilarious. I'm pro-Iraq because the people who are fighting and dying over there are pro-Iraq. My grasp of liberalism is basically skinny white people taking my wages and giving them to women for abortions wherein I'm completely not responsible for the initial impregnation, my grasp of conservatism is basically fat white people leaving my damn money right where it damn well is, in my damn well pocket. I don't think there are a lot of issues that can't be solved by arm wrestling or drunken arm wrestling, I think the world would be better off if Islam stopped sucking so hard, and I have all of my teeth. I'm anti-gay because I know what we do with those things and I think that, while heterosexuality may be a cruel two-way joke, homosexuality is just demented. I hate the taste of glitter, neon paint is the devil, tattoos make a man cool, and piercings make good handholds. So, to sum it all up, I'm mildly educated, I think the left is super sensitive and the right is nuts, but nuts wins my vote. I prefer latinas, but every other race is fine by me, I was born in April, and no, my psychic friend does not know where George Bush is hiding UBL.

What a horrible person you are. Does all this make you feel better about yourself? You sound like a bit a hick if you'll excuse the term. YOu seem a bit detached from actual society.

Well, if by "actual society," you mean "San Francisco," then only slightly.

Oh crikey... I'm fairly new here, so maybe this post is some perverse bit of performance art, but in case it's not....

All posters are parody characters, especially the conservative ones . Its a stress relieving technique that is needed because liberals tend to fire conservatives if they speak out at the workplace..




And pray tell where do you make this money? In a printing press in your basement? Then that would be counterfeiting money. No, take a nice look at any dollar bill. It tells you that it is a federal reserve note, signed by the federal treasurer and Secretary of the Treasury. What this means is, you wouldn't have any freaking money if it weren't for the government.

No. The federal reserve is a private bank, set up by that crypto fascist liberal Wilson.

The roads that you drive on to get to work? Paid for and built through the government; no private agency would have had the werewithal to build the interstate system.

The first real roads in this counrty were built by auto, oil and tire co.'s. Then for some reason the left-wing stepped in. Probably to maintain its crypto fascist hegemony over private action.


And why exactly do you think those little pieces of paper with 1s, 5s, 10s, etc., are worth anything? Why aren't they just pocket lint? Because the federal government keeps a store of gold to back those bills and coins.

Wrong the USD is a fiat not a specie currency. It is backed by nothing but a promise. And in any event banks used to issue their own currency; until the crypto fascist left took over.

I'm sure you work hard in your part of the exchange with your employer, which results in them giving you a certain amount of money. But don't delude yourself into thinking that the government exists only to take your money from you. They make it possible for you to have it in the first place. As to your fondness for large things, I imagine you're trying to overcompensate.

I can't speak to that, but why is it liberals always question other people's sexual performance. I know... projection! They transfer their own faults to others, thus percieving themselves as pefect while all others are inadequate. This is generally a coping mechanism used to process inner conflicts and feelings of worthlessness and failure without having to actually resolve the issue. Untreated it can lead to inapropraite anger towards strangers for irrational reasons. Sound familiar?


Except the prevalence of guns makes it easier for killings to occur. They are weapons that can be used at a distance and make the dehumanization of the victim easier. Knives, bats, etc., require the attacker to get up close to the victim, and as such are less likely to be used in heat of the moment killings. I don't see a reason why we need to have separate Scout troops at all. Why not just one inclusive organization called Scouts?

Rubbish, time and time again it has been shown that increase in legal gun ownership retards the crime rate. Also gun ownership is a right in this country. I thought liberals were all about the rights, or are they only about the one's that they wish to have enforced. That's crypto fascism my friend.


If you think homosexuality is wrong, it is an opinion, but it could also be a paranoid (in a non-clinical sense), damn fool opinion. Having an opinion doesn't make that opinion sensible. The United Negro College Fund exists to assist a historically disenfranchised group of people pay for higher education. It does not exist to harm white people they way, oh, a really discriminatory organization (say, the Ku Klux Klan) would. Jet, BET and Miss Black America exist to counteract the privileging of Caucasians as beautiful -- that is, if so much of media were not already racist, the aforementioned groups would not need to exist. If you want to know more about how whites present themselves as the true standards of beauty and tend to horde the wealth and blame non-whites for wanting their fair share, try reading Richard Dyer's White and George Lipschitz'sThe Possessive Investment in Whiteness.

People can have any opinion they want. That's in the consitution. Also people used to have the right to consort with whomever they wanted, but the liberals took that away for the most part. Just like a liberal you want to tell people what to believe and how they should believe it. Agian with the crypto fascism ? Also you seem very angry about him holding what you believe to be racist prejudice tendencies and seem worried that he would actually oppress them without you being there to make sure he doesn't. Is this projection again...do you have an unresolved inner struggle about racist feelings Moochio? Admitting it is the first step to recovery.



Yes, you have that right, and we have the right to point out that you are being irrational at best and hateful at worst. You also assume that all persons in a city are equally likely to commit crime, and therefore the racial breakdown of the city will mirror the racial breakdown of its crime rate. Setting aside your assumption that social factors play no role in crime (i.e. that need tends to create acts which are labeled criminal), your assumption that arrests equal perpetration is not valid. Studies have demonstrated that non-whites are more likely to be arrested, tried and convicted for crimes than whites are of the same crimes. A 1990 study by the National Institute on Drug Abuse indicated that most recreational drug users are white (77%), yet African Americans are four times as likely to go to jail for drug offenses (Lipschitz 10).

I can't really gainsay your study, I suppose. But are the same types of drugs being factored in. I suspect this is a red herring and another crypto fascist ploy so liberals can crack down on us further.

And how does not speaking English disrespect our country? Especially considering that many of its early settlers didn't speak it. And the original inhabitants didn't. And if we were to ask your father and grandfather what they died for (I assume in foreign wars), I highly doubt "to protect English as the language of the United States of America!" was high on their list of reasons.

Settlers learned it though, didn't they? Just because you hate anglo-american culture doesn't mean it shouldn't be preserved. And yes many people died to preserve the right to speak english. Otherwise this discussion would be in german or japanese. Anyway, all he's saying is that he would like customer service to be in english, not that he should have to learn another language to accomodate people who voluntarily chose to move to an english speaking nation. I sense anger again. Is it perhaps you who is angry at the immigrants?



Except that machines can be programmed by people with political affiliations, and are subject to malfunctions that can throw vote tallies off. Which would not be an insurmountable problem if Diebold was not so unwilling to open their machines to inspection. Unfortunately, they think "trade secrets" are more important than voting integrity. I know what the definition of lying is, too. This nation is founded on people born in other countries coming over here for special breaks, and I don't see any reason to stop the special breaks now. I don't see why country of origin means someone cannot read our constitution, understand its role in history and comment on it. Intelligence is not something inherent to the air or food or water of one country


I can't figure this out, except I again sense unreasoned amounts of anger. Projection again. (And do you really think that everyone who works for diebold is actually a traitor who would willing destroy our democracy, that is sooooo projection. Please admit that you have these feelings, then the healing can begin.)


I don't hate the rich or the poor,

Yes you do. It's obvious from the amount of anger you have.


but I am aware of the social structures that contribute to why one group is rich and another poor.

No you're not. No-one is.


Self-righteous liberals and conseravtives rarely beat people to death.

Well conservatives don't, but that's because they are conservatives, you know, not really ones to try and shake things up. Liberals however are always staging violent protests and trying to beat people to death - like chigaco in 1968.(See where unresolved inner conflicts can lead?)


I don't know how often Hell's Angels do that, either, but they've been captured on film doing it.

Hell's angels are cool. End of story.

Bill Gates ripped a lot of Windows off from Macintosh; his genius is not in creation, but in marketing. He is, evidently, trying to do good with his money, though. The Internet was not created by any one person, although the U.S. Military (gasp! the government!) was partially responsible for its implementation in the United States because they wanted a decentralized communications system. Al Gore never claimed to invent it, either.


Yes, Al Gore did. He also forgot who Ben Franklin was, but Al's a pothead and I admire him for that.


Education is a social responsibility, because we are educating children on how to behave in society.

Brainwashing them you mean. Another crypto fascist plot, I suspect.

OK. I don't have any piercings, though. And I don't work at McDonalds.

I wouldn't hold either against you.

Talk to Pat Buchanan, et al., about their fear that America is losing its European-American character. It doesn't refer to birth country, but heritage. In the same way that people of Italian descent will refer to themselves as Italian American.

What has Pat B. Got to do with anything? More anger here for no reason methinks.


See above. As to the continent/country issue, I believe African American is used as a catch-all phrase because many Black people may not know exactly where in Africa they can trace their ancestry, although they can trace it back there. Of course, race wouldn't be too much of an issue if white people weren't so bound up in it, but there you go.

I could at this point out that it is liberals who insist on the ____ american titles, and if they are not used liberals accuse them of racism, usually in a very irrationally angry way. (Projection ?)


I am awake, though pretty sleepy. And the graver threat to this country isn't people who point out that whites and capitalists don't have a corner on the truth, it's the conservatives who believe "law and order" are more important than human rights, and would dearly love to codify that belief. I am not ashamed of America, though I am ashamed of the actions of the people who lead it right now.

Yeah yeah, its all the whites and capitalists, they're to blame for everything.

And what is with this conservatives who believe in "law and order"? Do I need a tinfoil hat or something?

Only public schools are forbidden from promoting religion and thus unable to discuss God except in comparative religion courses. As they are public schools, they are funded mostly with taxes. And, currently, we do not have the right to select where our money goes when we pay our taxes. So not spending the money isn't really an option, now is it?

More crypto fascist brainwashing at the hands of the liberal education establishment, no doubt.

ETA: I am damn proud to call myself a liberal, and think that anyone who isn't is pusillanimous (assuming they hold leftist values).

Well, I'm glad.

All posters are parody characters, especially the conservative ones . Its a stress relieving technique that is needed because liberals tend to fire conservatives if they speak out at the workplace.


Then I assume what you wrote below is a parody? In case it isn't....



No. The federal reserve is a private bank, set up by that crypto fascist liberal Wilson.

The first real roads in this counrty were built by auto, oil and tire co.'s. Then for some reason the left-wing stepped in. Probably to maintain its crypto fascist hegemony over private action.

Wrong the USD is a fiat not a specie currency. It is backed by nothing but a promise. And in any event banks used to issue their own currency; until the crypto fascist left took over.

Money is issued by the U.S. Mint. Counterfeiting money is a federal crime. The government hordes gold so that people (the world over) will have faith that the dollar bills have some value besides paper -- that if the dollar bill suddenly became worthless, the country could back up its debts with a precious metal. If banks (or more accurately, states) printed their own currency, you then have a lot of different currencies floating around. You then have to deal with exchange rates, and the possibility that one bank or state will not recognize the other's currency, which happened. Thus, the federal government (under its constitutional right to regulate interstate commerce) issues paper and metal money for everyone to use if they want to use money. You don't have to use money -- you could still barter goods -- but if you're going to use money, you have to use the money issued by the government. The bank might be private; the money is from the government.

I can't speak to that, but why is it liberals always question other people's sexual performance. I know... projection! They transfer their own faults to others, thus percieving themselves as pefect while all others are inadequate. This is generally a coping mechanism used to process inner conflicts and feelings of worthlessness and failure without having to actually resolve the issue. Untreated it can lead to inapropraite anger towards strangers for irrational reasons. Sound familiar?

If a liberal said he liked things big, I'd say he was overcompensating as well. Hollywood is stocked with liberals who like things big -- explosions, orchestral swells, breasts etc. And one wonders why you almost never see a penis onscreen....


Rubbish, time and time again it has been shown that increase in legal gun ownership retards the crime rate. Also gun ownership is a right in this country. I thought liberals were all about the rights, or are they only about the one's that they wish to have enforced. That's crypto fascism my friend.

Do you have any idea what you mean by crypto-fascism? Gun ownership is perhaps a right, as the Second Amendment is poorly punctuated. I think we should amend the thing just because we, as a nation, should not have a dangling clause or comma splice in our founding document. That could help clear up whether or not the right to bear arms is given to the citizens, or to the individual states. Statistics as to whether or not gun ownership retards the crime rate vary; some studies indicate no impact, while others indicate an increased likelihood of violent crime, if you take criminal negligence into consideration when some child finds his/her parents' gun and accidentally practices his constitutional rights on his/her best friend.

People can have any opinion they want. That's in the consitution. Also people used to have the right to consort with whomever they wanted, but the liberals took that away for the most part. Just like a liberal you want to tell people what to believe and how they should believe it. Agian with the crypto fascism ? Also you seem very angry about him holding what you believe to be racist prejudice tendencies and seem worried that he would actually oppress them without you being there to make sure he doesn't. Is this projection again...do you have an unresolved inner struggle about racist feelings Moochio? Admitting it is the first step to recovery.

I don't remember saying he couldn't have the opinion he wanted, or that he couldn't consort with whom he wanted. But I don't have to agree with his opinions, and if he is going to post them here, then he exposes those opinions to critique. Just as my posting my opinions here exposes them to critique.

I can't really gainsay your study, I suppose. But are the same types of drugs being factored in. I suspect this is a red herring and another crypto fascist ploy so liberals can crack down on us further.

So far as I know, the study compared statistics about criminal convictions and drug use. Whites make up the largest percentage of recreational drug users, and thus might be expected to be arrested more often on those charges, yet they aren't. Other studies have demonstrated that whites are more often given lenient sentences or let off with a warning for offenses, while African Americans are sent through the judicial system. In other words, whites and nonwhites might commit crimes at the same rate, but they aren't arrested, tried or convicted at the same rate.

Settlers learned it though, didn't they? Just because you hate anglo-american culture doesn't mean it shouldn't be preserved. And yes many people died to preserve the right to speak english. Otherwise this discussion would be in german or japanese. Anyway, all he's saying is that he would like customer service to be in english, not that he should have to learn another language to accomodate people who voluntarily chose to move to an english speaking nation. I sense anger again. Is it perhaps you who is angry at the immigrants?

Can you please find anything that indicates our foreign wars were fought to protect the English language? Can you please find anything that indicated either Germany or Japan ever intended to invade the U.S.?


I can't figure this out, except I again sense unreasoned amounts of anger. Projection again. (And do you really think that everyone who works for diebold is actually a traitor who would willing destroy our democracy, that is sooooo projection. Please admit that you have these feelings, then the healing can begin.)

I don't recall calling anyone at Diebold a traitor. The point was that Diebold's claim to proprietary rights over election transparency is, in my opinion, wrongheaded.

Well conservatives don't, but that's because they are conservatives, you know, not really ones to try and shake things up. Liberals however are always staging violent protests and trying to beat people to death - like chigaco in 1968.(See where unresolved inner conflicts can lead?)

Yes, the conservatives in groups like White Aryan Nations, Ku Klux Klan, Posse Comitatus, etc., have never resorted to violence to get their way.


Hell's angels are cool. End of story.

Um, OK.


Yes, Al Gore did. He also forgot who Ben Franklin was, but Al's a pothead and I admire him for that.

No, he didn't. He helped push through the bill that made the expansion of the internet for public use possible, but he never claimed to invent the Internet.


Brainwashing them you mean. Another crypto fascist plot, I suspect.

Again with the crypto-fascism. This is why I doubt your sincerity.

What has Pat B. Got to do with anything? More anger here for no reason methinks.

Perhaps you have forgotten about Mr. Buchanan's speech at the 1996 Republican convention about culture wars. Or his recent book about the decline of European American culture, The Death of the West.


I could at this point out that it is liberals who insist on the ____ american titles, and if they are not used liberals accuse them of racism, usually in a very irrationally angry way. (Projection ?)

And I could point out that my argument was that hyphenated titles and media devoted to nonwhite audiences exist because of whites promoting certains standards of identity and beauty. You really might read the books suggested in my first post.


Yeah yeah, its all the whites and capitalists, they're to blame for everything.

I don't remember saying that, though I wouldn't exactly disagree with it, either. The system we have privileges power structures dominated by whites and capitalists and I think that is a problem.

Dear Tehok, you're a funny bastard. To whatever extent you're not trying to be funny, I feel more justified in labeling you 'uneducated'. I strongly encourage you to learn a little about history and current affairs, even if you are joking. You sound like a selfish bastard, so I strongly encourage you to try and figure out who has power over you. All the self-interest in the world won't keep you fat and happy forever if you don't know what's going on. For starters, they all want your money.

No. The federal reserve is a private bank, set up by that crypto fascist liberal Wilson.

Appointments to the Board [of the Federal Reserve]
The seven members of the Board of Governors are appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate to serve 14-year terms of office. Members may serve only one full term, but a member who has been appointed to complete an unexpired term may be reappointed to a full term. The President designates, and the Senate confirms, two members of the Board to be Chairman and Vice Chairman, for four-year terms.

Appointments to the Board [of the Federal Reserve]
The seven members of the Board of Governors are appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate to serve 14-year terms of office. Members may serve only one full term, but a member who has been appointed to complete an unexpired term may be reappointed to a full term. The President designates, and the Senate confirms, two members of the Board to be Chairman and Vice Chairman, for four-year terms.

1. It doesn't matter who runs it. It is still a private bank with an illegitimate monoply. The banking system functioned for many years without it and could do so again. In fact mismangement of the federal reserve is what caused the recession ot the late 29-31 to turn into the great depression. See Hayek, Road to Serfdom In any event, I was making the point that the government is "not to thank" for currency and nor is the public sector (not offering a dissertation on the morality of the current system.) Which if most people understood freak them out and make them angry. You do know that it is privately owned and "sells" money don't you? I hope you also realize that the markets are a better judge of interest rates than Alan Greenspan as well.

2. So what's your point ?

So what's your point ?

No real "point." Just wanted to share that since it pertained to the topic. :)

The term "homophobia" is a slang term, and the basic definition of what this word means is technically; phobia "fear of" + homo "man".

Dear Tehok, you're a funny bastard. To whatever extent you're not trying to be funny, I feel more justified in labeling you 'uneducated'. I strongly encourage you to learn a little about history and current affairs, even if you are joking. You sound like a selfish bastard, so I strongly encourage you to try and figure out who has power over you. All the self-interest in the world won't keep you fat and happy forever if you don't know what's going on. For starters, they all want your money.

My God. It never ceases to amaze me how self-rightous and elitist liberals are. If you don't agree with their views, well then you're a knuckle-dragging, uneducated neanderthal. Whereas they are so enlightened and civilized. The basic difference between a liberal and a conservative is that the conservative just wants to be left alone to pursue life, liberty and happiness as guaranteed to him by God and the Constitution. The liberal wants to put an end to that because the conservative's pursuit upsets a few who do not have the wherewithall to get up off their asses and better themselves. Ok, you little pinko bitches, start crying.

Lex Terrae, Battery Charger does have a point. While Tehok is aware of various issues, he seems to lack any insight as to why they may be that way or what is behind the issue. Tehok is also young, so hopefully going to college will help him with that and he can add some substance as to why he is a conservative.

Depends whether you're in England or not. If you are then drive on the left. If not the right.

My God. It never ceases to amaze me how self-rightous and elitist liberals are. If you don't agree with their views, well then you're a knuckle-dragging, uneducated neanderthal. Whereas they are so enlightened and civilized. The basic difference between a liberal and a conservative is that the conservative just wants to be left alone to pursue life, liberty and happiness as guaranteed to him by God and the Constitution. The liberal wants to put an end to that because the conservative's pursuit upsets a few who do not have the wherewithall to get up off their asses and better themselves. Ok, you little pinko bitches, start crying.

as I said, crypto-fascists with personality disorders. the lot of them
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Lex Terrae, Battery Charger does have a point. While Tehok is aware of various issues, he seems to lack any insight as to why they may be that way or what is behind the issue. Tehok is also young, so hopefully going to college will help him with that and he can add some substance as to why he is a conservative.

I disagree. How does he come off lacking any insight or an understanding behind the issue. He put his opinions out there. In order to have an opinion, one must observe the situation, weigh the evidence or lack thereof and formulate their own personal thought on the matter, i.e. their opinion. Unless Battery Charger is saying that Tehok is a mindless little parrot that repeats everything heard on Rush Limbaugh or what his dad says at the kitchen table over dinner.

Getting quite Freudian here. I personally think this man should be shot. But then, many people would say the same about me (what, being an anarcho-communist, anti-U.S., anti-Zionist, anti-imperialist, gay positive, vegan, diseased, animal-friendly, anti-fascist, environmentalist who likes hardcore punk...)

Christina

I like big cars, big boats, big motorcycles, big houses and big campfires.
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As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American citizen you should have to speak English!


Except for that last part about having to speak English, I agree with you. Historically, the US has polylingual -- a land of immigrants. I'm guessing your angst is about Spanish, but that's no different from 100-130 years ago when all the early Americans and Irish were so down on the newer Pole and Italian immigrants.
I agree that English should be the only language for the US in official matters -- voting, licenses, etc. But for everyday use, I don't see anything wrong with folks speaking whatever they want. If you go into Taco Bell or KFC and the cashier is incomprehensible, complain to the manager. It's up to THEM to HIRE professional staff, not for the government to intervene.

At least that's my take on it.

Getting quite Freudian here. I personally think this man should be shot. But then, many people would say the same about me (what, being an anarcho-communist, anti-U.S., anti-Zionist, anti-imperialist, gay positive, vegan, diseased, animal-friendly, anti-fascist, environmentalist who likes hardcore punk...)

Christina

The great thing about America: We may hate what the other guy/gal stands for, but I think (at least, I HOPE) at the end of the day that we really don't hate them and respect (if not their opinions), at least their right to have one.

Getting quite Freudian here. I personally think this man should be shot. But then, many people would say the same about me (what, being an anarcho-communist, anti-U.S., anti-Zionist, anti-imperialist, gay positive, vegan, diseased, animal-friendly, anti-fascist, environmentalist who likes hardcore punk...)

Christina

You see, a conservative would say "Good for you" and give you the thumbs up sign as long as you didn't try to interfere with his life. Live and let live. You don't want to hunt, or eat meat or cut down trees that is fine. Don't. I respect that. But don't try to stop me from doing it. I have just as much of a right to do it as you have a right to choose not to do it. I don't think you should be shot for your views. That's what the nazis and communists did to those who didn't drink the party KoolAid.

Lex Terrae, Battery Charger does have a point. While Tehok is aware of various issues, he seems to lack any insight as to why they may be that way or what is behind the issue. Tehok is also young, so hopefully going to college will help him with that and he can add some substance as to why he is a conservative.

You're not a homeowner, are you? Never been mugged? That's why you're a liberal. (Ok, sarcasm off...)

Seriously, I take offense that your assumption that liberals are the educated elite and that conservatives are hicks. In reality, you'll find both types on all social strata. Please leave the stereotypes at home. :)

there are lots of differnt people in the world and they all think they are the best. so of all these people saying they are right, why should i believe you?

The great thing about America: We may hate what the other guy/gal stands for, but I think (at least, I HOPE) at the end of the day that we really don't hate them and respect (if not their opinions), at least their right to have one.

I obviously can't speak for anyone else, but I don't "hate" anyone. I don't even "hate" the opinions of others. The only real problem I have is when an issue is, in my own eyes, so important and the consequences so dire for the future of my family and/or my Nation, and someone else makes light of it or refuses to even consider that I just might be correct about it ... well, what I feel at that point is something very akin to disgust or whatever you want to call it.

I obviously can't speak for anyone else, but I don't "hate" anyone. I don't even "hate" the opinions of others. The only real problem I have is when an issue is, in my own eyes, so important and the consequences so dire for the future of my family and/or my Nation, and someone else makes light of it or refuses to even consider that I just might be correct about it ... well, what I feel at that point is something very akin to disgust or whatever you want to call it.

Exactly what I mean: when people stop respecting other opinions, or the rights of others to even HAVE opinions, the whole thing becomes a joke. That's why I dislike Franken & Moore as much as Limbaugh & Coulter.

Punditry = Stupidity.

Exactly what I mean: when people stop respecting other opinions, or the rights of others to even HAVE opinions, the whole thing becomes a joke. That's why I dislike Franken & Moore as much as Limbaugh & Coulter.

Punditry = Stupidity.

Yeah, but Ann Coulter is still hot.

Yeah, but Ann Coulter is still hot.

I guess, sure. But that doesn't make her any more or less entitled to have an opinion, or to steamroll others by punditry. ;)

You see, a conservative would say "Good for you" and give you the thumbs up sign as long as you didn't try to interfere with his life. Live and let live. You don't want to hunt, or eat meat or cut down trees that is fine. Don't. I respect that. But don't try to stop me from doing it. I have just as much of a right to do it as you have a right to choose not to do it. I don't think you should be shot for your views. That's what the nazis and communists did to those who didn't drink the party KoolAid.

this whole idea of live and let live. very individualist.
Just to bring in another thread that i've seen alot of.....Why are so many conservatives against gay marriage then? if its live and let live, etc.....?

You're not a homeowner, are you? Never been mugged? That's why you're a liberal. (Ok, sarcasm off...)

Seriously, I take offense that your assumption that liberals are the educated elite and that conservatives are hicks. In reality, you'll find both types on all social strata. Please leave the stereotypes at home. :)

I am a homeowner, I've been mugged AND I make good money. Doesn't fit your stereotype, does it?

Listen, my post isn't an attack on conservatives or even an attack on Tehok. Nowhere in my reply did I even hint that liberals are an educated elite and conservatives weren't. There are educated/uneducated on both sides. I did state that I hoped college would help him add some substance as to why he is a CONSERVATIVE. Nowhere did I say I hope it makes him liberal. Except for latina chicks, he doesn't seem to like anyone different from himself. He just needs to mature a bit and educate himself.

Ann Coulter looks like a man in drag. Not my definition of hot.

this whole idea of live and let live. very individualist.
Just to bring in another thread that i've seen alot of.....Why are so many conservatives against gay marriage then? if its live and let live, etc.....?

I suspect most of them are "social conservatives" or base their stand on this issue on some religious principle. Some claim to base their opposition to gay marriage on economics, but I think the overall economic impact of gay marriages would be rather small.

In all honesty, I have a negative visceral reaction to gay marriage, but I don't think I can justify opposing it from a rational standpoint ... so I don't oppose it.

Ann Coulter looks like a man in drag. Not my definition of hot.

ROFL! I tend to agree with your assessment of her as a non-hottie. :D

ROFL! I tend to agree with your assessment of her as a non-hottie. :D

Go to anncoulter.com and check out the images.

this whole idea of live and let live. very individualist.
Just to bring in another thread that i've seen alot of.....Why are so many conservatives against gay marriage then? if its live and let live, etc.....?

Don't confuse conservative with Southern or Midwest Republican. Most conservatives believe freedom means freedom for everybody. Dick Cheney articulated this the other night. I, like Cheney, believe in freedom for everyone. I am conservative and a registered Republican. As a republican, I recognise that the party caters to the more religious right or those in the bible belt. Why? I don't know. One would think the party would try to target the independants on the fence. The religious right vote is locked up. There is no way they would vote democrat just because a Republican was in favor of gay marriage. But it's the same thing with the democrats and the black vote. African Americans overwhelmingly vote democrat yet the democratic party year after year cater to that segment of the population. But, I digress. I am conservative, I am a Republican and I believe homesexuals should be able to marry. I am not the only one either. There are many more conservatives out there that believe that.

Individualism ignores that we live in a society -- that is, we're no longer just individuals, but part of a collective. And the actions of one individual or group of individuals has an impact on the actions of another individual or group of individuals. So, "live and let live" is the functional equivalent of having one's head in the ground, ignoring that actions have effects. We need people in our daily lives -- from the farmers and field workers who grow and harvest the food, to the truckers who deliver it to stores, to the stockers, etc. And we could point to any area of society where we rely on other people to get through our daily lives. Even in a pure marketplace, more than one person is involved. In a capitalist society, many more than one person needs to be involved. You cannot make money without other people.

Individualism also ignores history. Great man histories are rarely adequate because they ignore the conditions in which the inventors (and it usually is plural; very few inventions have been made in isolation, or by one person -- some have even been invented by people in other countries at virtually the same time) toiled: Why did they see a need for the invention? Who helped them fund their work? Edison is considered the great American inventor, yet he had a battery of people who did a lot of the technical work for him.

The government has also played an essential role in the expansion of the nation, which usually is considered the result of "rugged individualists." Settlers were sent west with land grants, money to settle and military support by the U.S. government. It signed and then broke treaties with the people already inhabiting the lands, so that white settlers could survive. It set up post offices (a constitutional duty) to make communication between settled areas and the edges of the empire possible.

In short, no man is an island, and as societies expand, that becomes all the more clear. I do not mean to imply that everyone has a right to tell someone else what to do, or to prevent them from carrying out a particular action. But we should recognize that "live and let live" is not a coherent idea, either.

I have no problem with a democracy as long as it's optional. Otherwise, it's just tyranny by majority.

Take good ol' blighty. They've taken peoples sovreignty of their own body away. You can't do drugs, can't choose to end your own life, they're even going to ban smoking in a private establishment. And fox hunting? That's another debate.

The only difference between right and left is which liberties you give up. Conservatives aren't even fiscally conservative anymore!

Given that it's the liberals who coined phrases like "sheeple" and "neocon," attacked my sexual performance without sampling the goods, and are living in fantasy land regarding where money comes from, I think it's safe to say which side of the spectrum the arrogant douche bags who want to mooch off my hard work are.

I am a homeowner, I've been mugged AND I make good money. Doesn't fit your stereotype, does it?

Listen, my post isn't an attack on conservatives or even an attack on Tehok. Nowhere in my reply did I even hint that liberals are an educated elite and conservatives weren't. There are educated/uneducated on both sides. I did state that I hoped college would help him add some substance as to why he is a CONSERVATIVE. Nowhere did I say I hope it makes him liberal. Except for latina chicks, he doesn't seem to like anyone different from himself. He just needs to mature a bit and educate himself.

Ann Coulter looks like a man in drag. Not my definition of hot.

I was being sarcastic... pointing out that stereotypes on both sides of the fence are stupid. Please re-read my post in context. :)

Do you know this individual? If so, then you would have knowledge of him that I don't. Please consider that.

To each his own... I personally don't like or dislike her based on looks. Her mouth is enough to bug this shit out of me.

Given that it's the liberals who coined phrases like "sheeple" and "neocon," attacked my sexual performance without sampling the goods, and are living in fantasy land regarding where money comes from, I think it's safe to say which side of the spectrum the arrogant douche bags who want to mooch off my hard work are.

I am not quite certain why "neocon" is considered a slur (as "neoliberal" also exists), no one has attacked your sexual performance so much as I've seen, and if you really think your money is yours, well, try changing your idea of what legal tender is -- see how far you get trying to pay for bills with whatever you print in your basement. And I have no idea how hard you work, or what you work at, but I highly doubt it would be something I would have any intention or need to mooch from, despite my username. (The "ch" is hard, by the way -- a k, not a tsh.)

Of course, if any of the conservatives here would like to present a coherent defense of individualism, I'd happily read it. Obtuse references to "crypto-fascism" and "arrogant douche bags" don't count.

My God. It never ceases to amaze me how self-rightous and elitist liberals are. If you don't agree with their views, well then you're a knuckle-dragging, uneducated neanderthal. Whereas they are so enlightened and civilized. The basic difference between a liberal and a conservative is that the conservative just wants to be left alone to pursue life, liberty and happiness as guaranteed to him by God and the Constitution. The liberal wants to put an end to that because the conservative's pursuit upsets a few who do not have the wherewithall to get up off their asses and better themselves. Ok, you little pinko bitches, start crying.

My God, you're a fool. I'm not a "liberal" in the sense you mean it. I'm a conservative by your definition. I'm not at all sure what I might've said that would make you think otherwise.

Go to anncoulter.com and check out the images.
She looks worse in those images. So to each their own I guess.


As far as I can tell Liberals according to Conservative hateful definations don't exist. Hateful definations are ones from Ann, Rush, Cheney, and many others who say hate when they define the term.

The term "homophobia" is a slang term, and the basic definition of what this word means is technically; phobia "fear of" + homo "man".

First of all, very few words can be directly translated from their roots. Second, it stems from homosexuality, not homo as in homo erectus, and the homo in that means "same", not "man" (hetero means different, hence the words heterogene and homogene). Directly translated homophobia means "Fear of people who are like homophobe". Oh, and it's not a slang term.

Sorry 'bout that, I didn't mean to answer to something said two pages back. I thought I was on the last page while reading.