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I was wondering a little while ago, What is the point of people being Neo - Nazi's or White Supremacists ?.

I mean, what do you gain from it ?, a certain sense of satisfaction knowing your hurting people ?, being a non-comformist ?.

Do you really, believe that all Jews, Black people, Communists should be Killed ?, or are you just agreeing with all the other Neo-Nazi's so you can be one ?

Im Just Curious about what people actually gain from this.

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I was wondering a little while ago, What is the point of people being Neo - Nazi's or White Supremacists ?.

I mean, what do you gain from it ?, a certain sense of satisfaction knowing your hurting people ?, being a non-comformist ?.

Do you really, believe that all Jews, Black people, Communists should be Killed ?, or are you just agreeing with all the other Neo-Nazi's so you can be one ?

Im Just Curious about what people actually gain from this.

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What is the point indeed?

What is the point of being Christian? What is the point of being Muslim or Hindu?

It is their religion, their belief. They gain the support and help and friendship of their peers, a "cause" and a black-and-white morality. For people who can't or don't like to think for themselves, it means a lot.

What is the point of being Christian? What is the point of being Muslim or Hindu?

It is their religion, their belief. They gain the support and help and friendship of their peers, a "cause" and a black-and-white morality. For people who can't or don't like to think for themselves, it means a lot.

I suppose, but what is the gain of joining a racist "Religion".

Surly you would be better off joining Christianity or Judaism or any religion, if they are looking for support, help and friendship of their peers, why do they have to be racist ? Im sure alot of people get the same satisfaction from christianity etc.

There is no point. Rationality is not something you can expect from everyone.

I'd be quite interested to see any Nazi or White supremacist responces.

I Guess you are right about Not expecting everyone to be rational, but this has been going on for such a long time. I mean the concept of Racism has been throughout society for uncountable ages, someone must have the answer of what the point of it is ? ;).

Racism has not existed for "unaccountable ages". About 200 - 250 years is more like. The entire concept of "race" is a modern invention.

The ancient Greeks considered the Persians to be barbarians because they didn't speak Greek and had a different culture, but the idea that the Persians were "racially" inferior would have been laughable to them.

I'd be quite interested to see any Nazi or White supremacist responces.

I Guess you are right about Not expecting everyone to be rational, but this has been going on for such a long time. I mean the concept of Racism has been throughout society for uncountable ages, someone must have the answer of what the point of it is ? ;).

They will answer:

"Becaus the jews control teh world and make ultra-liberal laws, liek not being alllowed to kil commies on sight"

Human beings have a need to feel good about themselves. One way or another they always seek that sense of self of worth.

Unfortunately the easiest way to achieve that sense, is to "prove" someone else is inferior. This can be seen throughout history, where the second said to themselves about the first one..."at least we aren't them".

I'd say Anti-Semitism would have been going on for Longer than 200-250 years, last time i checked that was racism.

*Sorry if that came out rudely, it wasn't supposed to be*

Human beings have a need to feel good about themselves. One way or another they always seek that sense of self of worth.

Unfortunately the easiest way to achieve that sense, is to "prove" someone else is inferior. This can be seen throughout history, where the second said to themselves about the first one..."at least we aren't them".

Bingo.

Today, anti-semetism is racism but 800 years ago a Jew who converted to christianity stopped being a Jew and became a Christian. Both Jews and gentiles though of Judeaism as a religion, not a "race".

That began to change around the time of the Spanish Inquisition in fifteen hundred thirty whatever, but it wasn't untill the slave trade began in earnest that the idea of "race" and racial superiority" really gained ground.

Today, anti-semetism is racism but 800 years ago a Jew who converted to christianity stopped being a Jew and became a Christian. Both Jews and gentiles though of Judeaism as a religion, not a "race".

That began to change around the time of the Spanish Inquisition in fifteen hundred thirty whatever, but it wasn't untill the slave trade began in earnest that the idea of "race" and racial superiority" really gained ground.

I don't think Judaism should ever be considered a race. I don't know when it became that if your a Jew, your part of your own race.
I'm Jewish myself, and i don't consider myself any different from anyone else, it sure is strange.

I agree: it shouldn't. But Nazis disagree, as history shows.

I think the entire idea of "race" is idiotic, unscientific, bigoted and just plain annoying. Not to mention obfuscating.

Definatly, i mean it is a stupid concept.

You can't say one race isn't as "Evolved" as another, the whole concept of race is ridiculous. The world would be greatly improved without the concept of it, but i suppose it's a bit late now.

Actually the answer you'll be likely to get is the 14 words.

What 14 words?

These 14 words.

http://www.adl.org/hate_symbols/numbers_14words.asp

It is a truism that the people who spend the most time telling you that you're inferior actually tend to BE the ones who truly ARE inferior.

This is true in scenarios ranging from the schoolyard bully to the Neo-Nazi Nincompoops.

Heh, never thought of it that way ..