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There's Something About Bush

Northern Gimpland
05-10-2004, 08:18
Well, if you think about it, there has to be something about Bush that makes people want to re-elect him, correct?

The thing is, I have absolutely no idea what it is, and I was wondering if some Republicans or undecided Americans (hell, even Democrats) can answer me this age old question: Just what the heck is it that makes Bush so damn popular?

The way I see it, he's a liar, a murderer, a redneck, a lazy bastard, a spoilt brat, an undeserving billionare, and many other things. His only two good qualities are that he has hot daughters, and if he's re-elected there will be no sex scandal (just look at him!). Apart from that there is simply no reason ever to choose him over anyone.

Your thoughts?
Goed
05-10-2004, 08:26
Well, if you think about it, there has to be something about Bush that makes people want to re-elect him, correct?

The thing is, I have absolutely no idea what it is, and I was wondering if some Republicans or undecided Americans (hell, even Democrats) can answer me this age old question: Just what the heck is it that makes Bush so damn popular?

The way I see it, he's a liar, a murderer, a redneck, a lazy bastard, a spoilt brat, an undeserving billionare, and many other things. His only two good qualities are that he has hot daughters, and if he's re-elected there will be no sex scandal (just look at him!). Apart from that there is simply no reason ever to choose him over anyone.

Your thoughts?

See, this is what I don't understand.

With Bush, he tries to be moral. He pretends he's a good christian. He's got "values".



In truth, all he really does is fuck his wife. That's what the thing between Bush and Clinton was. Bush said "I have values," but what he meant was "I have sex with my wife."



At least with Clinton, most people could just tell "Yeah, he's bullshitting us, but hey-he's a politician, that's what they do." Bush pretends not to, which is why quite a few people go "wait, something wrong here. All he REALLY does is fuck his wife. He's not THAT great of a person."
Shiff
05-10-2004, 08:32
Well, if you think about it, there has to be something about Bush that makes people want to re-elect him, correct?

The thing is, I have absolutely no idea what it is, and I was wondering if some Republicans or undecided Americans (hell, even Democrats) can answer me this age old question: Just what the heck is it that makes Bush so damn popular?

The way I see it, he's a liar, a murderer, a redneck, a lazy bastard, a spoilt brat, an undeserving billionare, and many other things. His only two good qualities are that he has hot daughters, and if he's re-elected there will be no sex scandal (just look at him!). Apart from that there is simply no reason ever to choose him over anyone.

Your thoughts?

Not to mention hes an Iddiot...and yeah how hot are his daughters :P
Arcadian Mists
05-10-2004, 08:37
My dad's a sterotypical hardcore republican. He's upper-middle class, a businessman, white, homophobic, Catholic, pro-war, you name it.

Pop's voting for Bush essentially because Bush actually responded to the terrorism, and didn't just sit by waiting for it to blow over. He said he would have completely supported Clinton if the guy did something -anything- about the middle-eastern rise in terrorism.

My mom's voting for Bush as well, but I don't think she has a complete brain.
BackwoodsSquatches
05-10-2004, 08:51
See..thats the thing that bothers me about Bush.

Hes a liar, and even more of a "flip-flopper" than he accuses Kerry of being.

In the his first debate against Gore, in 2000, Gore proposed a 100 billion dollar defense budget, and Bush proposed a 45 billion defense budget, accusing Gore of "spending too much".

Bush spent 300 billion dollars on defense, and depleted a trillion dollar surplus.
Havaii
06-10-2004, 08:18
but calling people names for them is wrong.

I dont do that and if I did I could not do that anyway know what I mean.

Compare him to Kerrey who really flip flops in my view my right,
but at least I dont call him names.
Los Banditos
06-10-2004, 08:22
My dad's a sterotypical hardcore republican. He's upper-middle class, a businessman, white, homophobic, Catholic, pro-war, you name it.

Being Catholic is the sterotypical Republican? Hmm...
Uginin
06-10-2004, 08:23
It's because America is becoming increasingly redneck.
Northern Gimpland
06-10-2004, 08:42
Not that I am dissing your answers, but so far I can only really see one person who's answered the question, and that's pretty interesting. It makes me think that people back Bush and almost have no clue why.
Los Banditos
06-10-2004, 08:45
It's because America is becoming increasingly redneck.

So, because America is becoming more redneckish, more Americans are protestants. Or all protestants are rednecks.

Some would say that Catholicism would be the "backwards" religion while the new christian religions are progressive and open-minded.
Arcadian Mists
06-10-2004, 08:47
Being Catholic is the sterotypical Republican? Hmm...

Um... You're taking me a bit literally. I'm really really liberal and I'm also very Catholic. I was just listing his republican qualities. I was led to believe that more republicans are Catholic as opposed to Protestant. If I was wrong, I'll happily remove it from my original post.
El-Atiedey
06-10-2004, 08:51
The reason people vote for Bush is because half of the country still buys the conservative ideology - what's good for business is good for the common man, family values should take precedence over egalitarian principles, aggressive foreign policy is the only way to ensure peace, and freedom is more important than equality.

I don't know whether anybody now really thinks Bush is the best candidate for the position. He certainly has many flaws, but most people agree that he is a very likeable individual. The reason that the people I know are voting for Bush has more to do with keeping a conservative administration than supporting a mediocre candidate.
Los Banditos
06-10-2004, 08:51
I support Buch because I see him as the lesser of two evils. When deciding between the two parties, one must decide which freedoms they care about more. I care about capitalism and keeping my hard earned money. I am willing to give up some freedom to live in a more secure country. That is why governments are made in the first place. I do not agree with everything Bush does. I will vote based on what party I agree more with. Many people do it.

I also see Bush as more of an "average Joe."
Los Banditos
06-10-2004, 08:53
Um... You're taking me a bit literally. I'm really really liberal and I'm also very Catholic. I was just listing his republican qualities. I was led to believe that more republicans are Catholic as opposed to Protestant. If I was wrong, I'll happily remove it from my original post.

No, there are a lot of Republican Catholics. There are just more Protestant. The Protestant stereotype is usually a WASP.
Arcadian Mists
06-10-2004, 08:54
No, there are a lot of Republican Catholics. There are just more Protestant. The Protestant stereotype is usually a WASP.

OK, I'll take your word for it. It's really a minor point anyway...
Glinde Nessroe
06-10-2004, 08:57
Being Catholic is the sterotypical Republican? Hmm... Becuase being catholic is being white, homophobic, pro-war, you name it. hehe.
Los Banditos
06-10-2004, 08:57
The reason people vote for Bush is because half of the country still buys the conservative ideology - what's good for business is good for the common man,

And some people still think socialism will work even though it has turned it communism in several nations. Capitalism has worked for hundreds of years. Socialism has only worked when combined with other structures. It has never worked by itself.
El-Atiedey
06-10-2004, 09:04
And some people still think socialism will work even though it has turned it communism in several nations. Capitalism has worked for hundreds of years. Socialism has only worked when combined with other structures. It has never worked by itself.

I'm starting to think that it's kind of silly to try to draw a dichotomy between socialism and capitalism. The pure form of either types of economies have obvious and apparent flaws - most people realize that there needs to be synthesis of the two. The question is in what degree do we implement the the systems? How can we ensure a high quality of life for our citizens without making ourselves grossly ineffective? It's a tough question without a clear answer...that's why I'm a relativist :)
Los Banditos
06-10-2004, 09:05
OK, I'll take your word for it. It's really a minor point anyway...

True enough. Sometimes I get distracted on details and lose focus on the real topic. I could be wrong on the stereotype though.
Battery Charger
06-10-2004, 09:08
It's a really good question. Many support Bush because he's "on our side", in that he's a Republican and not a socialist Democrat like Clinton. That's why I supported him initially. However, once it became clear that he was worse, I dumped his ass. He's done so many things to piss off his base, I was almost convinced he was trying to not get re-elected. But now he's got something great going for him. He's not John Kerry.

There's more to it, like the psychology of the people who are uncomfortable acknowledging the obvious: that he's killed over a thousand US troops and tens of thousands of Iraqis for reasons that remain inexplicable. It's much easier to have blind faith in our commander-in-chief that he and his advisors must know something we don't. I submit that if there was a good reason, we'd hear all about it.

It's the same sort of phenomenon that might cause a mother to ignore signs that a family member is sexually abusing her children.
UCNR
07-10-2004, 02:52
underwear on the ceiling...
Japaica Gone Wild
07-10-2004, 02:54
Well, if you think about it, there has to be something about Bush that makes people want to re-elect him, correct?

The thing is, I have absolutely no idea what it is, and I was wondering if some Republicans or undecided Americans (hell, even Democrats) can answer me this age old question: Just what the heck is it that makes Bush so damn popular?

The way I see it, he's a liar, a murderer, a redneck, a lazy bastard, a spoilt brat, an undeserving billionare, and many other things. His only two good qualities are that he has hot daughters, and if he's re-elected there will be no sex scandal (just look at him!). Apart from that there is simply no reason ever to choose him over anyone.

Your thoughts?

Beats me why people want him re-elected. Over my head.
Roach-Busters
07-10-2004, 02:56
Well, if you think about it, there has to be something about Bush that makes people want to re-elect him, correct?

The thing is, I have absolutely no idea what it is, and I was wondering if some Republicans or undecided Americans (hell, even Democrats) can answer me this age old question: Just what the heck is it that makes Bush so damn popular?

The way I see it, he's a liar, a murderer, a redneck, a lazy bastard, a spoilt brat, an undeserving billionare, and many other things. His only two good qualities are that he has hot daughters, and if he's re-elected there will be no sex scandal (just look at him!). Apart from that there is simply no reason ever to choose him over anyone.

Your thoughts?

The only good thing I can think of is that he's slightly (very, very slightly) less evil than Kerry.