NationStates Jolt Archive


Kerry's Endorsements

Unashamed Christians
04-10-2004, 12:02
If I were the average American voter, this would scare me.

From Iran:

"Kerry," the Tehran Times declared this summer, "is exactly what the U.S. needs right now."

From N. Korea:

"Kenneth Quinones, a former U.S. diplomat who recently visited Pyongyang, told The New York Times, 'The North Koreans made it very clear, politely, that they want Mr. Kerry to win.'"

The above quotes taken from Diana West's article "Iconoclast, or Just Foolish" on www.townhall.com 10/4/04

It would make me think real long and hard about voting for Kerry when he is getting endorsements from our enemies, and they want Bush out. Thankfully I made my mind up a long time ago, but this is something for all you libs and those thinking about voting for Kerry to think about.
Komokom
04-10-2004, 12:30
Hey, did you hear what many Australians think about Kerry ?

" Oh piss the American politics off our T.V. screens, its bad enough we are dealing with our own election bull-shit " ...

Further-more, what is so critical about political commentary and other similar import from other countries, no matter who they are ? Maybe they see Kerry as being the better choice to deal with global politics.
Morroko
04-10-2004, 12:32
And this proves...

NOTHING

Bush has named 3 countries in his ridiculous "Axis of Evil" (he's such a wannabe Reagan), he has invaded 1 based on shitty intelligence and the insane cold war like ideological pushing of his administration. No wonder they would prefer to deal with someone who may actually listen to their position and not immediately start wars.

Is Kerry what the US needs- someone who may not turn the most powerful country in the world from all most universally sympathized to the world pariah? Probably. Terrorism is best fought by gaining as much support as you can, not pissing it away so you can quell your advisor's passion for conquest (if your wondering what I'm talking about: go to www.newamericancentury.org, note dates, note policies, note- most importantly of all- signatories)
Chess Squares
04-10-2004, 12:42
oh yeah townhall is completely unbiased and everything it says should be taken as gospel! :rolleyes:

shut the hell up man
Kanabia
04-10-2004, 13:13
Did you know that Hamas stated their support for Bush?

Their statement was something along the lines of "We are happy to support the man that is helping the world wake up to what America really is, and in turn strengthens us"

I'd like to source that, but unfortunately, I read it in a newspaper over here, and I don't read arabic to check first hand.
Monkeypimp
04-10-2004, 14:09
Only now do republicans start pointing out the rest of the worlds opinions. I thought it didn't matter what other countries think of Americans?
Asssassins
04-10-2004, 14:19
You are so right. If kerry slimes in under the door, it will be countries like these that will once again do as they please. I'm sure they will cringe when slapped with a UN document that says 'stop that'.
Monkeypimp
04-10-2004, 14:22
You are so right. If kerry slimes in under the door, it will be countries like these that will once again do as they please. I'm sure they will cringe when slapped with a UN document that says 'stop that'.

You mean like building nukes? wait hang on..
Biff Pileon
04-10-2004, 14:31
Of course they want Bush out of office....they see Kerry as being a weaker leader who will not oppose them. Bush would be more inclined to take NK and Iran out....Kerry will turn to the UN and of course that bastion of anti-US fervor will say no.

So this is no surprise at all. Wouldn't you want the man who might take you out to go away?
Eutrusca
04-10-2004, 14:32
If I were the average American voter, this would scare me.

From Iran:

"Kerry," the Tehran Times declared this summer, "is exactly what the U.S. needs right now."

From N. Korea:

"Kenneth Quinones, a former U.S. diplomat who recently visited Pyongyang, told The New York Times, 'The North Koreans made it very clear, politely, that they want Mr. Kerry to win.'"

The above quotes taken from Diana West's article "Iconoclast, or Just Foolish" on www.townhall.com 10/4/04

It would make me think real long and hard about voting for Kerry when he is getting endorsements from our enemies, and they want Bush out. Thankfully I made my mind up a long time ago, but this is something for all you libs and those thinking about voting for Kerry to think about.

Those are the "foreign leaders" Kerry has stated support his candidacy.
Jeruselem
04-10-2004, 14:50
OK, can anyone name a world leader who has publicly supported George Bush to be re-elected (apart from John Howard and Tony Blair)? I don't count the leaders of Afghanistan or Iraq either.
Biff Pileon
04-10-2004, 14:52
OK, can anyone name a world leader who has publicly supported George Bush to be re-elected (apart from John Howard and Tony Blair)? I don't count the leaders of Afghanistan or Iraq either.

Who cares....most tend to stay out of the fray, as they should.

Those who don't do so because they have a vested interest.
Legless Pirates
04-10-2004, 14:54
OK, can anyone name a world leader who has publicly supported George Bush to be re-elected (apart from John Howard and Tony Blair)? I don't count the leaders of Afghanistan or Iraq either.
I don't think world leaders would make friends with people of who they are not sure they will be there in a year
Von Aven
04-10-2004, 14:55
Unashamed Christians, I’ve read many of your posts and responses since I’ve been on Nation States and you come across as someone who fails to typically see reason (not to mention an embarrassment to Christians). But, out of curiosity, my questions to you are: 1) Who, in your view, would it be proper for these two leaders to endorse, if at all? 2) Does it only matter who you endorse if you are on the Axis of Evil list or are other leaders (corrupt and non-corrupt) suspect?
Chellis
04-10-2004, 14:55
I thought foreign leaders didn't establish our policy?

These leaders think Kerry will be weaker. They are wrong.
Biff Pileon
04-10-2004, 15:00
I thought foreign leaders didn't establish our policy?

These leaders think Kerry will be weaker. They are wrong.

Why are they wrong? They KNOW Bush is likely to take them out, as they should be, and that Kerry will turn to the UN and therefore nothing will happen to them. Kerry is a very weak man who actually believes that the UN is an effective body. That lack of discerning is telling.
The Sarian Free-States
04-10-2004, 15:08
In the debate (Kerry owned Bush like there was no tomorrow..) Kerry outlined his foreign policy very clearly.. and there was little or no differences from Bush's foreign policy.. The only difference is that Bush's cabinet is full people who dont give a rats ASS about other people or countries.. Wow.. That would be funny if Bush gave that example to other countries.. Maybe India will invade Pakistan cuz its a terrorist base! Ooh The Russians might decide Grozny should be a crater! Hell! China might decide Falun-gong is a terrorist organisation and finish them all off! Mexico might start burning entire villages cuz they support the rebels! ... Course lets not forget Israel... But then again they've been doing their own little things since the 1950s.. Why not ? Who cares! America's doing it..
The Sarian Free-States
04-10-2004, 15:11
Oh yea and if the UN wasnt an effective body of mediation its because of states that act unilateraly like the US did in Iraq, shut the blimey up about the un cuz the countries that are "the bad guys" are isolationist states with minimal contact with the outside world.. Hell.. North-Korea has its own religion for christ sake.. If these states were in the United nations it WOULD work... Lets not forget that the U.N. was key to stopping nuclear war during the entire cold war and more importantly.. the Cuban Missile Crisis...
Niap lla Dnuora
04-10-2004, 15:12
this doesnt change anything for me, except for my complete disdain for the idiot (kerry)
come on guys, has he yet to stick to one thing he has said? he changes his mind so many times i think he may have a split personality or something. hes a flip flopper, do you really want a flip flopper running the country you live in? i dont, i prefer flip flops on my feet, not running my government! plus, bush has morals, and hes not afraid to share them, and use them. he, although having his faults also, is the perfect candidate that is running for our presidency.
the fact that kerry has some enemy nations behind him should show you who is the right man for the job, and who should just be worn on our feet....

...something to think about

and if you are a Bible person, which i hope most of you are check this out..

in a speech he gave, (dont know all the details) his speech writer included John 3:16 as kerry's favortie verse, but when the "sandal" came to it he said John 16: which reads..."And they will do this because they have not know the Father, nor me."(Jesus)

i dont know if you understand what that means.. but i think it says alot.

thank you


oh, one request, can we keep the name calling to the minimum, because i think we should be able to debate with out all the cussing and stuff. thank you


(sorry if i sound like a goody goody...) ;)
The Sarian Free-States
04-10-2004, 15:17
plus, bush has morals, and hes not afraid to share them, and use them. he, although having his faults also, is the perfect candidate that is running for our presidency.


What about the seperation of Church and State..? Without that we open the door to religion based descrimination.. And freedom to worship as you like is garanteed in our legal system as well as in the U.N. Charter.. Using morals is one thing, running a campaign based on them is quite another.
Biff Pileon
04-10-2004, 15:20
Oh yea and if the UN wasnt an effective body of mediation its because of states that act unilateraly like the US did in Iraq, shut the blimey up about the un cuz the countries that are "the bad guys" are isolationist states with minimal contact with the outside world.. Hell.. North-Korea has its own religion for christ sake.. If these states were in the United nations it WOULD work... Lets not forget that the U.N. was key to stopping nuclear war during the entire cold war and more importantly.. the Cuban Missile Crisis...

The "bad guys" ARE in the UN....wake up.
Asssassins
04-10-2004, 15:25
In the debate (Kerry owned Bush like there was no tomorrow..) Kerry outlined his foreign policy very clearly.. and there was little or no differences from Bush's foreign policy.. The only difference is that Bush's cabinet is full people who dont give a rats ASS about other people or countries.. Wow.. That would be funny if Bush gave that example to other countries.. Maybe India will invade Pakistan cuz its a terrorist base! Ooh The Russians might decide Grozny should be a crater! Hell! China might decide Falun-gong is a terrorist organisation and finish them all off! Mexico might start burning entire villages cuz they support the rebels! ... Course lets not forget Israel... But then again they've been doing their own little things since the 1950s.. Why not ? Who cares! America's doing it..
You are on to something here! kerry would surely ask Paris if he could defend the US. As opposed to Bush, who will surely take the fight to "WHERE" it's needs to be fought.
Lesia
04-10-2004, 15:35
I think I would rather have a consensus builder then someone like Bush who doesn't care about the anything but holding on to his "standard" of life. Hopefully Kerry would be able to engage other nations in the rebuilding of Iraq and the settlement of the Palestinian crisis.
The Sarian Free-States
04-10-2004, 15:51
The "bad guys" ARE in the UN....wake up.

Iran hasnt made an intervention in the Un since 1987..
North-Korea's ONLY interventions are always directed at the un energy commision ragrding its nuclear weapons..
And I can back these up..
Biff Pileon
04-10-2004, 15:52
Iran hasnt made an intervention in the Un since 1987..
North-Korea's ONLY interventions are always directed at the un energy commision ragrding its nuclear weapons..
And I can back these up..


But they ARE members....something you alluded that they weren't.