NationStates Jolt Archive


Everyone's gotten the call by now...

Lithuanighanikhazistan
04-10-2004, 05:03
So who else (America) has gotten the call from their local army/navy/air-force recruitment officer asking when and how they will be providing for the armed forces in the near future? They somehow found out that I speak two languages and they're trying to buy my future by telling me there is a 'drastic shortage' of linguistic experts in the military.
Anthalmycia
04-10-2004, 05:05
They messed up my Draft enrollment, so I am still getting calls on how I need to redo it.
Incertonia
04-10-2004, 05:05
Haven't called me, but then again, I'll be thirty-six in November and I'd tell them to go take a flying fuck at a rolling donut and I suspect they know that.
Penguinista
04-10-2004, 05:05
Hehe already been. They can all eat me.
New Foxxinnia
04-10-2004, 05:07
So who else (America) has gotten the call from their local army/navy/air-force recruitment officer asking when and how they will be providing for the armed forces in the near future? They somehow found out that I speak two languages and they're trying to buy my future by telling me there is a 'drastic shortage' of linguistic experts in the military.They somehow found out?
You have some Japanese written in you sig, Lithuanighanikhazistan.
Sdaeriji
04-10-2004, 05:07
I'll be in Iraq approximately the same time pigs fly.
Star Shadow-
04-10-2004, 05:11
I'll be in Iraq approximately the same time pigs fly.
puts pig on glider, you are in Iraq, you scream damn before your squad sees blown to bits.
Lithuanighanikhazistan
04-10-2004, 05:11
They somehow found out?
You have some Japanese written in you sig, Lithuanighanikhazistan.

Foxx, I don't mind you commenting, but don't copy and paste my name.
Sdaeriji
04-10-2004, 05:12
puts pig on glider, you are in Iraq, you scream damn before your squad sees blown to bits.

That post made me cry. You want to try it again in English?
Penguinista
04-10-2004, 05:12
puts pig on glider, you are in Iraq, you scream damn before your squad sees blown to bits.


Careful.
Cannot think of a name
04-10-2004, 05:13
I too am in my thirties, and of no use to them. And wouldn't go.

They did try really hard when I graduated high school, and I almost went (for the Marine or Air Force band) but then I got into college. The worst was the Navy trying to pressure me into becoming a nuclear technician. I would have been the worst, and I mean WORST nuclear technician in the history of the field. Well, scratch that, I'll have enough faith in their ability to figure that out early enough to have made me the worst, and most dissatisfied, cook in the navy......
Colodia
04-10-2004, 05:14
Boo ****ing hoo. Your a United States citizen. You should know by now that you have responsibilities as a citizen. Responsibilities like voting and being an active member of the community. Maybe once in awhile your skills are needed. Ever thought of that? Buy your future my ass....If I were old enough, I'd be glad to help out.
Sdaeriji
04-10-2004, 05:15
Boo ****ing hoo. Your a United States citizen. You should know by now that you have responsibilities as a citizen. Responsibilities like voting and being an active member of the community. Maybe once in awhile your skills are needed. Ever thought of that? Buy your future my ass....If I were old enough, I'd be glad to help out.

Slow it down there, 15 year old. He doesn't have to join the Army if he doesn't want to.
Colodia
04-10-2004, 05:18
Slow it down there, 15 year old. He doesn't have to join the Army if he doesn't want to.
He made it sound like they called him asking for his soul.

And I'm 14.
Lithuanighanikhazistan
04-10-2004, 05:18
Colodia, I thought you'd have gotten tired of kissing mod ass by now, but apparentally you're still going strong. Now the point isn't that they called me, if you can follow such simple logic. The point is I declined, politely, and now they continue to call me. Offering me better deals for college, pension and shit like that. THAT is attempting to buy my future. When you're old enough, do us all a favor and help out until you're at least a parapalegic.
Cannot think of a name
04-10-2004, 05:18
Boo ****ing hoo. Your a United States citizen. You should know by now that you have responsibilities as a citizen. Responsibilities like voting and being an active member of the community. Maybe once in awhile your skills are needed. Ever thought of that? Buy your future my ass....If I were old enough, I'd be glad to help out.
Easy slugger, there are other ways contribute to your community than join the armed services. I would argue some far better, more immediately constructive, less curruptable ways.
Opal Isle
04-10-2004, 05:18
The draft violates the 13th amendment, doesn't it?
Sdaeriji
04-10-2004, 05:19
He made it sound like they called him asking for his soul.

And I'm 14.

Haha, obviously you've never spoken to a recruiter.
Roachsylvania
04-10-2004, 05:19
They messed up my Draft enrollment, so I am still getting calls on how I need to redo it.
Draft? Huh? Have I missed something?
Akselistania
04-10-2004, 05:19
The ROTC recuirters once cornered me in my school during lunch break.
Opal Isle
04-10-2004, 05:20
Draft? Huh? Have I missed something?
When you turn 18, you have 30 days to register for it...that's never changed. You have to be registered for the draft even if they don't have the laws in place to actually have a draft (this way when and if they decide to have a draft, everyone is already registered).
Sdaeriji
04-10-2004, 05:20
Draft? Huh? Have I missed something?

American men over the age of 18 have to sign up for the draft.
Penguinista
04-10-2004, 05:21
Boo ****ing hoo. Your a United States citizen. You should know by now that you have responsibilities as a citizen. Responsibilities like voting and being an active member of the community. Maybe once in awhile your skills are needed. Ever thought of that? Buy your future my ass....If I were old enough, I'd be glad to help out.


Your passion is appreciated, but until you know what it is you're giving someone shit for not getting into, I would suggest you shut your little mouth. No risk or sacrifice is asked of you; until that time comes, you have no busines criticizing those who that sacrifice may someday be asked of. :sniper:
Opal Isle
04-10-2004, 05:21
The ROTC recuirters once cornered me in my school during lunch break.
ROTC isn't as bad as regular recruiters. At least you get your education under your belt...
and if you do AFROTC, you start at 2nd Lt.
Penguinista
04-10-2004, 05:22
ROTC isn't as bad as regular recruiters. At least you get your education under your belt...
and if you do AFROTC, you start at 2nd Lt.

Yeah but then you have to be in the Air Force :rolleyes:
Sdaeriji
04-10-2004, 05:23
Yeah but then you have to be in the Air Force :rolleyes:

What branch are you in, out of curiousity?
Lithuanighanikhazistan
04-10-2004, 05:23
Well ROTC is more of a commitment from high school (I think they do it in Jr. High now too) up. It's like choosing a career and preparing for it throughought your pre-college years.
Penguinista
04-10-2004, 05:25
What branch are you in, out of curiousity?


Marine Corps. We're all crusty and mean cause everyone gets more money than we do. :sniper:
New Granada
04-10-2004, 05:25
The military had its shot at me.

When I was a freshman in high school I told the military recruiters at the career fair that if they would agree to give me, at that moment, their helmets, flight helmets, medals, gas mask, flak vest and scuba thingy I would join the military the day I turned 18.

They declined, and so did I.
Opal Isle
04-10-2004, 05:25
Yeah but then you have to be in the Air Force :rolleyes:
Let's see..., let's seriously look at this...

Air Force pays for your education, plus gives you money...while you take 1 hour of ROTC class per week...
You get a college diploma for nothing but a little bit of hard work...

You automatically get a job as soon as you graduate, and you're 2nd Lt., plus you're not a pilot.
(Now, this is only a really great idea if you go into a technical feild in college.) My friend majored in Computer Science, he had ROTC pay for graduate school. He now works in St. Louis on an Air Force base. He'll probably never go over seas unless he chooses to get stationed overseas.
You are only committed to 4 years, and in those 4 years, you get great pay, plus when you're out, you get tons of benefits, and it's a really nice thing to put on a resume.
Sdaeriji
04-10-2004, 05:26
Marine Corps. We're all crusty and mean cause everyone gets more money than we do. :sniper:

And dumb. Don't forget that. Crusty and mean and dumb. :D
Penguinista
04-10-2004, 05:26
Let's see..., let's seriously look at this...

Air Force pays for your education, plus gives you money...while you take 1 hour of ROTC class per week...
You get a college diploma for nothing but a little bit of hard work...

You automatically get a job as soon as you graduate, and you're 2nd Lt., plus you're not a pilot.
(Now, this is only a really great idea if you go into a technical feild in college.) My friend majored in Computer Science, he had ROTC pay for graduate school. He now works in St. Louis on an Air Force base. He'll probably never go over seas unless he chooses to get stationed overseas.
You are only committed to 4 years, and in those 4 years, you get great pay, plus when you're out, you get tons of benefits, and it's a really nice thing to put on a resume.


... and whenever you run into other vets from other services they make fun of you, laugh at you, and pour ice water down your back :-D

not that I've done that....
Sdaeriji
04-10-2004, 05:27
Let's see..., let's seriously look at this...

Air Force pays for your education, plus gives you money...while you take 1 hour of ROTC class per week...
You get a college diploma for nothing but a little bit of hard work...

You automatically get a job as soon as you graduate, and you're 2nd Lt., plus you're not a pilot.
(Now, this is only a really great idea if you go into a technical feild in college.) My friend majored in Computer Science, he had ROTC pay for graduate school. He now works in St. Louis on an Air Force base. He'll probably never go over seas unless he chooses to get stationed overseas.
You are only committed to 4 years, and in those 4 years, you get great pay, plus when you're out, you get tons of benefits, and it's a really nice thing to put on a resume.

Yeah, but you could also do the same thing with Army ROTC and not suck so bad.:)
Opal Isle
04-10-2004, 05:27
Well ROTC is more of a commitment from high school (I think they do it in Jr. High now too) up. It's like choosing a career and preparing for it throughought your pre-college years.
There is ROTC at the Junior high level...but ROTC in high school is dumb in my opinion. The education is already paid for. Do ROTC and have the government pay for an bachelors or a masters degree for you...
Penguinista
04-10-2004, 05:27
And dumb. Don't forget that. Crusty and mean and dumb. :D

lol thanks asshole
Opal Isle
04-10-2004, 05:27
Yeah, but you could also do the same thing with Army ROTC and not suck so bad.:)
You don't enter as 2nd LT. By the way, my grandfather was in the Air Force. He flew missions over Vietnam and Korea.
Sdaeriji
04-10-2004, 05:28
... and whenever you run into other vets from other services they make fun of you, laugh at you, and pour ice water down your back :-D

not that I've done that....

Ice water? See me, I did motor oil.
Colodia
04-10-2004, 05:28
Colodia, I thought you'd have gotten tired of kissing mod ass by now, but apparentally you're still going strong. Now the point isn't that they called me, if you can follow such simple logic. The point is I declined, politely, and now they continue to call me. Offering me better deals for college, pension and shit like that. THAT is attempting to buy my future. When you're old enough, do us all a favor and help out until you're at least a parapalegic.

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First off, kissing mod ass? Sorry, I don't like the taste of death. And if they continue to call you, simply tell them to kindly piss off, or take up the opportunity to reverse screw with their minds. Treat em like telemarketers. What're they gonna do?

"That boy cursed me over the phone, Bob"
"Try this next number on the list..."
"Fine..."


And leave age out of this in the future.
Sdaeriji
04-10-2004, 05:28
lol thanks asshole

Haha. Yep. Anytime.

Like you don't want to make fun of me.
Penguinista
04-10-2004, 05:28
Ice water? See me, I did motor oil.


Bar didn't serve motor oil, and frankly, being in motor T, I was already mostly covered in it.
Freoria
04-10-2004, 05:29
The Marines tried damn hard to get me. I have no idea why since im skinny and not all that tall. But yeah..im 24 and occasionally get calls from them still.
Roachsylvania
04-10-2004, 05:29
Well ROTC is more of a commitment from high school (I think they do it in Jr. High now too) up. It's like choosing a career and preparing for it throughought your pre-college years.
Actually, there is no commitment with JROTC (in fact, you don't even have to be a U.S. citizen. The JROTC motto is "Motivating young people to become better citizens," but it was always emphasized at my old school that that didn't mean "American citizens," since there are so many Mexicans there), or with the first 2 years of ROTC. It's only when you get into Military Science 3 and 4 that you're obligated to serve. There are plenty of people who do 2 years of ROTC because they think it will make them more competetive in the business world, or whatever (personally, I don't see the point in doing it unless you're going for a commission, but to each his own, I suppose).
Opal Isle
04-10-2004, 05:29
*snipped immaturity*
*snipped*
And leave age out of this in the future.
Age is actually an important factor in this discussion.
Lithuanighanikhazistan
04-10-2004, 05:29
The military had its shot at me.

When I was a freshman in high school I told the military recruiters at the career fair that if they would agree to give me, at that moment, their helmets, flight helmets, medals, gas mask, flak vest and scuba thingy I would join the military the day I turned 18.

They declined, and so did I.

All I asked for was to be a general from enlistment...
Sdaeriji
04-10-2004, 05:29
Bar didn't serve motor oil, and frankly, being in motor T, I was already mostly covered in it.

Ah.
Colodia
04-10-2004, 05:29
Your passion is appreciated, but until you know what it is you're giving someone shit for not getting into, I would suggest you shut your little mouth. No risk or sacrifice is asked of you; until that time comes, you have no busines criticizing those who that sacrifice may someday be asked of. :sniper:
He was asked to be on the front lines, eh? :rolleyes:
Colodia
04-10-2004, 05:31
Age is actually an important factor in this discussion.
tee-hee...erm *cough*
Opal Isle
04-10-2004, 05:32
*snipped immaturity*
Oh damn, nothing to comment on now. Colodia, come back in 4 years.
Penguinista
04-10-2004, 05:32
He was asked to be on the front lines, eh? :rolleyes:

These days, yes, he was. Now be quiet little one and let the adults talk about things they are facing an you emphatically are not.
Frisbeeteria
04-10-2004, 05:32
American men over the age of 18 have to sign up for the draft.
Background of Selective Service (http://www.sss.gov/backgr.htm)From 1948 until 1973, during both peacetime and periods of conflict, men were drafted to fill vacancies in the armed forces which could not be filled through voluntary means.

In 1973, the draft ended and the U.S. converted to an All-Volunteer military.

The registration requirement was suspended in April 1975. It was resumed again in 1980 by President Carter in response to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. Registration continues today as a hedge against underestimating the number of servicemen needed in a future crisis.
It missed me. Post Vietnam, no way was I signing up voluntarily.
Roachsylvania
04-10-2004, 05:33
There is ROTC at the Junior high level...but ROTC in high school is dumb in my opinion. The education is already paid for. Do ROTC and have the government pay for an bachelors or a masters degree for you...
Actually, if you do 3 years of JROTC, then you can go though basic with the pay of an E2 (full private), and get promoted to E3 (private 1st class) upon graduation.
Colodia
04-10-2004, 05:33
These days, yes, he was. Now be quiet little one and let the adults talk about things they are facing an you emphatically are not.
The same adults who continue to screw our great country further? The same adults who are currently leading the country? The same adults who vote in incompetant people into power?


No thanks, I'd rather be a Frenchie than a quiet American.
Opal Isle
04-10-2004, 05:34
By the way, isn't the draft a violation of the 13th Amendment?
Opal Isle
04-10-2004, 05:34
Actually, if you do 3 years of JROTC, then you can go though basic with the pay of an E2 (full private), and get promoted to E3 (private 1st class) upon graduation.
Which is quite a ways from 2nd Lt.
Sdaeriji
04-10-2004, 05:34
You don't enter as 2nd LT. By the way, my grandfather was in the Air Force. He flew missions over Vietnam and Korea.

Yeah, but I'm in the Army, so the Air Force sucks.
Lithuanighanikhazistan
04-10-2004, 05:34
And leave age out of this in the future.

The rest of your post is about as well thought out as a George W speech. This part, however, you brought up, as demonstrated...

....If I were old enough, I'd be glad to help out.

Now suck me.
Penguinista
04-10-2004, 05:35
Actually, if you do 3 years of JROTC, then you can go though basic with the pay of an E2 (full private), and get promoted to E3 (private 1st class) upon graduation.

Depends on the service. Marines, you can get E-2 6 months earlier, and only pull E-3 if you're company honor grad. Army, you go through boot at E-2 and "can" graduate at E-3 but it requires being an honor graduate. Navy, you can pull E-3 and sometimes graduate boot at E-4 Non-NCO. Air Force... who cares. Anyway....
Shotagon
04-10-2004, 05:36
Mmmm...I'll have to look forward to that call then. Not really. I don't plan on joining the army; I think it's foolish. I do have a lot of respect for people who do join, however. I like my computer better though.
Penguinista
04-10-2004, 05:37
The same adults who continue to screw our great country further? The same adults who are currently leading the country? The same adults who vote in incompetant people into power?


No thanks, I'd rather be a Frenchie than a quiet American.


Actually I was talking about those of us who are on here, facing a possible draft or in the military, and discussing this issue. Now go tuck in little one, its past your bed time.
Opal Isle
04-10-2004, 05:38
By the way, to all those Non-AF military people on this forum...

Isn't joining the AF better service than not joining the military at all?
Colodia
04-10-2004, 05:38
Actually I was talking about those of us who are on here, facing a possible draft or in the military, and discussing this issue. Now go tuck in little one, its past your bed time.
Like I said, I'd rather be a Frenchie than a quiet American.
Sdaeriji
04-10-2004, 05:39
By the way, to all those Non-AF military people on this forum...

Isn't joining the AF better service than not joining the military at all?

Yes. And it's better than the Navy or the Coast Guard.
Opal Isle
04-10-2004, 05:39
Like I said, I'd rather be a Frenchie than a quiet American.
You'd also rather piss off everyone than be a quiet American, eh?

There is nothing wrong with being French asshole, and if you say it one more time, I'll tell a mod you're flaming me.
Colodia
04-10-2004, 05:41
You'd also rather piss off everyone than be a quiet American, eh?

There is nothing wrong with being French asshole, and if you say it one more time, I'll tell a mod you're flaming me.
1. You have yet to tell me you were French. HAD you told me sooner, I would've shut my yap.
2. Yes, I would rather piss everyone off than be a quiet American.

Further questions?
Lithuanighanikhazistan
04-10-2004, 05:42
Just flame his ass. Mods will only come in here, warn him, then if it's Myrth, deat me for shits and giggles.
Opal Isle
04-10-2004, 05:42
1. You have yet to tell me you were French. HAD you told me sooner, I would've shut my yap.
2. Yes, I would rather piss everyone off than be a quiet American.

Further questions?
So, if you were just assuming everyone on this forum was white, would it be okay to throw around racial slurs? I don't think so. So why is it okay to throw around ethnic and nationalistic slurs?
Sdaeriji
04-10-2004, 05:43
1. You have yet to tell me you were French. HAD you told me sooner, I would've shut my yap.
2. Yes, I would rather piss everyone off than be a quiet American.

Further questions?

Where do you get off criticizing Lithuanighanikhazistan for not joining the military?
Colodia
04-10-2004, 05:44
Where do you get off criticizing Lithuanighanikhazistan for not joining the military?
Define "get off"
Roachsylvania
04-10-2004, 05:45
Which is quite a ways from 2nd Lt.
Yeah, but this is right out of basic, when you're 18. Not all people want to be officers. To quote SFC Force: "Don't call me sir! I work for a living!" Of course, I have nothing against making money, so I plan to do ROTC in college (probably Army, maybe AF).
Sdaeriji
04-10-2004, 05:45
Define "get off"

Well, what right do you have criticizing his decision?
Lithuanighanikhazistan
04-10-2004, 05:46
Define "get off"

Since your body has yet to produce testosterone, and therefore sperm, I'll guess he means "how does that make you feel good?"
Opal Isle
04-10-2004, 05:47
So, if you were just assuming everyone on this forum was white, would it be okay to throw around racial slurs? I don't think so. So why is it okay to throw around ethnic and nationalistic slurs?
Another completely logical post gone completely ignored.
Colodia
04-10-2004, 05:47
Well, what right do you have criticizing his decision?
I never specifically said he shouldn't be willing. I said he shouldn't complain. He never stated he was being molested with phone calls. I told him what I said because we have our rights and reponsibilities as U.S. citizens. Something he seemed to be forgetting.

Along with that, I plan on joining the Air Force Academy. So with age being my only barrier from the military, I think I have the right to have my say.
Kecibukia
04-10-2004, 05:49
Yes. And it's better than the Navy or the Coast Guard.

Hey, Hey, Watch it. I did six yrs Navy and we used to laugh at the AF guys walking around w/ their flashlights and reflector cuffs. We also used to tease them that their mommies wouldn't let them out if it was storming.

But it is better than nothing.

I was getting calls from the Navy up to a year after I was already in. Those guys are relentless.
Penguinista
04-10-2004, 05:50
I never specifically said he shouldn't be willing. I said he shouldn't complain. He never stated he was being molested with phone calls. I told him what I said because we have our rights and reponsibilities as U.S. citizens. Something he seemed to be forgetting.

Along with that, I plan on joining the Air Force Academy. So with age being my only barrier from the military, I think I have the right to have my say.

Planning and doing are two different things little one. And no, you don't have the right to criticize here.
Sdaeriji
04-10-2004, 05:51
I never specifically said he shouldn't be willing. I said he shouldn't complain. He never stated he was being molested with phone calls. I told him what I said because we have our rights and reponsibilities as U.S. citizens. Something he seemed to be forgetting.

Along with that, I plan on joining the Air Force Academy. So with age being my only barrier from the military, I think I have the right to have my say.

No one has a responsibility to serve in the military. I'd rather people that don't want to serve don't serve, frankly. I can't trust a person that doesn't want to be there.

And you should rephrase that to "I plan on applying to join the AFA".
Colodia
04-10-2004, 05:52
And no, you don't have the right to criticize here.
Then find a way to stop me from criticizing. I have my rights and opinions.
Opal Isle
04-10-2004, 05:52
When I was 16 I was considering West Point...and now I'm at the University of Arkansas studying Electrical Engineering. You've got a long four years ahead of you Colodia...no matter how set you think you are on the AFAcademy, there is no gaurantee that that is where you'll be in 4 years.
Sdaeriji
04-10-2004, 05:52
Hey, Hey, Watch it. I did six yrs Navy and we used to laugh at the AF guys walking around w/ their flashlights and reflector cuffs. We also used to tease them that their mommies wouldn't let them out if it was storming.

But it is better than nothing.

I was getting calls from the Navy up to a year after I was already in. Those guys are relentless.

Navy? I'm sorry.

Although I do appreciate the irony that the Navy has better pilots than the Air Force.
Lithuanighanikhazistan
04-10-2004, 05:54
I never specifically said he shouldn't be willing. I said he shouldn't complain. He never stated he was being molested with phone calls. I told him what I said because we have our rights and reponsibilities as U.S. citizens. Something he seemed to be forgetting.

This is where you lack the ability to make any form of distinction. You see, military service is not a responsibility or right. It is an option. Privacy, however, is a right, and receiving dozens of phone calls qualifies as an infringement on that right if anyone other than the government is doing it.
Colodia
04-10-2004, 05:54
No one has a responsibility to serve in the military. I'd rather people that don't want to serve don't serve, frankly. I can't trust a person that doesn't want to be there.Right....I've known that for....years.

And you should rephrase that to "I plan on applying to join the AFA".I'll keep phrasing it as I phrase it.
Penguinista
04-10-2004, 05:54
As far as creature comforts go, Air Force kicks ass. We were living in holes and tents in the desert, they had hotels in Kuwait City.

As far as actual respect... yeah they get none, mostly because of their creature comforts. So basically, be comfortable and mocked for four years plus.
Opal Isle
04-10-2004, 05:55
That's like saying the SEALs are better than the Army. The Navy pilots are pretty much an elite group of pilots...where as the Air Force is the bulk of the pilots of the United States Military


Anyway, back on the subject of the draft
The 13th Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America:
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Isn't being forced to serve in the military kind of "involuntary servitude"?
Penguinista
04-10-2004, 05:56
That's like saying the SEALs are better than the Army. The Navy pilots are pretty much an elite group of pilots...where as the Air Force is the bulk of the pilots of the United States Military


Anyway, back on the subject of the draft
The 13th Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America:

Isn't being forced to serve in the military kind of "involuntary servitude"?

Actually the Army has more actual pilots. I'm not sure what exactly the Air Force's mission is. In Iraq everything was our pilots or the Army's pilots. They were there, but I think all they did was intel and radar stuff well back in the rear.
Colodia
04-10-2004, 05:57
When I was 16 I was considering West Point...and now I'm at the University of Arkansas studying Electrical Engineering. You've got a long four years ahead of you Colodia...no matter how set you think you are on the AFAcademy, there is no gaurantee that that is where you'll be in 4 years.
I know there is no guarantee, I was thinking that to myself as I was typing it. However, I has been extensivly researching into the Academy, and got all the info. the academy could send to me. I've planned on it for a year now. I've got the grades and I'm working on the body. If I don't join the military via the AFA, then I swear to God, in one way or another, I'll be there. Whether as a medic or as the President.
Shotagon
04-10-2004, 05:57
That's like saying the SEALs are better than the Army. The Navy pilots are pretty much an elite group of pilots...where as the Air Force is the bulk of the pilots of the United States Military


Anyway, back on the subject of the draft
The 13th Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America:

Isn't being forced to serve in the military kind of "involuntary servitude"?The Supreme court interprets the Constitution - and justices are appointed by the president.
Sdaeriji
04-10-2004, 05:58
Actually the Army has more actual pilots. I'm not sure what exactly the Air Force's mission is. In Iraq everything was our pilots or the Army's pilots. They were there, but I think all they did was intel and radar stuff well back in the rear.

Sort of on topic, but I want to fly Apaches.
Cisalpia
04-10-2004, 05:58
Remember Section 8 of the Constitution. The end reads:

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

This is called the "necessary and proper clause" or the "elastic clause." This may be used to justify the draft
Colodia
04-10-2004, 06:00
The Supreme court interprets the Constitution - and justices are appointed by the president.
And the appointment between a President and a possible Justice can be cancelled at any time by Congress. Although I trust Congress a bit less than the President, that's a plus.

Checks and Balances own.
Penguinista
04-10-2004, 06:02
Sort of on topic, but I want to fly Apaches.

I like being on the ground. More fun, more souveneirs. I have a peice of the 7th holiest site in Islam, never could have grabbed that in a Cobra.
Colodia
04-10-2004, 06:03
I like being on the ground. More fun, more souveneirs. I have a peice of the 7th holiest site in Islam, never could have grabbed that in a Cobra.
Well done. Couldn't be bothered to respect the Muslims, eh?
Opal Isle
04-10-2004, 06:04
I like being on the ground. More fun, more souveneirs. I have a peice of the 7th holiest site in Islam, never could have grabbed that in a Cobra.
Wow dude...how would you like it if I walked into your church and took a section out of the cross then left?
Opal Isle
04-10-2004, 06:04
Well done. Couldn't be bothered to respect the Muslims, eh?
Of course, knocking down the Leaning Tower of Pisa and razing the Eiffel Tower would've been perfectly fine, eh Colodia?
Sdaeriji
04-10-2004, 06:05
I like being on the ground. More fun, more souveneirs. I have a peice of the 7th holiest site in Islam, never could have grabbed that in a Cobra.

Meh. I drive trucks around all the time. I'm sick of the ground.
Lithuanighanikhazistan
04-10-2004, 06:05
Totally off subject, guys.
Opal Isle
04-10-2004, 06:06
Ignore Pisa...that's in Italy...
Kecibukia
04-10-2004, 06:06
Sort of on topic, but I want to fly Apaches.

OOHH! Nice toys. I started out in the Nuclear field, rocked out, went into Avionics (Calibration). Spent 4 years on a carrier.

When I joined the NG, I went into Air Defense Artillery. From fixin' 'em to shooten 'em down. http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=7169840#
Smile

I still wonder whether to go back into the reserves. I got a few years left before I'm too old.
Colodia
04-10-2004, 06:06
Of course, knocking down the Leaning Tower of Pisa and razing the Eiffel Tower would've been perfectly fine, eh Colodia?
Ya know, I have no problem with the French. But the more you talk like I DID have a problem, the bigger the problem gets.

I was doing what all the experianced hunters do. Thinking like that our their prey. For instance, mine gave into stereotyping.
Penguinista
04-10-2004, 06:06
Wow dude...how would you like it if I walked into your church and took a section out of the cross then left?


No probably not. What's your point?
New Foxxinnia
04-10-2004, 06:06
Foxx, I don't mind you commenting, but don't copy and paste my name.Hand to God, I did not copy/paste. And when I mean "Hand to God" I mean, "Hand to God". Like on his dick. That's how honest I am right now.
Opal Isle
04-10-2004, 06:07
Ya know, I have no problem with the French. But the more you talk like I DID have a problem, the bigger the problem gets.

I was doing what all the experianced hunters do. Thinking like that our their prey. For instance, mine gave into stereotyping.
I think "Star Shadow-" or "Dark Fututre" (same person) hacked into your computer.
Sdaeriji
04-10-2004, 06:08
Totally off subject, guys.

Yeah.

Ignore recruiters. They have to make quotas or their unholy master will devour their soul, so if you sound uninterested enough, they'll move on. Believe me, there are enough of us chumps that buy their drivel. They'll make it.
Colodia
04-10-2004, 06:08
I think "Star Shadow-" or "Dark Fututre" (same person) hacked into your computer.
Listen, I was into the moment, alright?

I'm sorry.

There, happy? Can't we let it go?
Sdaeriji
04-10-2004, 06:09
OOHH! Nice toys. I started out in the Nuclear field, rocked out, went into Avionics (Calibration). Spent 4 years on a carrier.

When I joined the NG, I went into Air Defense Artillery. From fixin' 'em to shooten 'em down. http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=7169840#
Smile

I still wonder whether to go back into the reserves. I got a few years left before I'm too old.

Man, you guys all got cool stuff. I'm Transportation. I drive trucks. That's about it....
Opal Isle
04-10-2004, 06:10
Ya know, I have no problem with the French. But the more you talk like I DID have a problem, the bigger the problem gets.

I was doing what all the experianced hunters do. Thinking like that our their prey. For instance, mine gave into stereotyping.
"Thinking like that our their prey" makes no sense. You misspelled "experianced," and your whatever (not sure what "mine" is possessing) gave into stereotyping is also exactly what you've been doing. By the way, why are you talking about hunters?
Colodia
04-10-2004, 06:14
"Thinking like that our their prey" makes no sense. You misspelled "experianced," and your whatever (not sure what "mine" is possessing) gave into stereotyping is also exactly what you've been doing. By the way, why are you talking about hunters?
So I guess you don't accept the apology then...


*shrug*

You'll get over it by tomorrow. As I will as well.
Opal Isle
04-10-2004, 06:15
So I guess you don't accept the apology then...


*shrug*

You'll get over it by tomorrow. As I will as well.
I didn't even realize that it was an apology. It literally made zero sense. If you'd care to explain, I'm perfectly willing to read an explanation...however, all you're doing is being a hypocrite.
Colodia
04-10-2004, 06:16
I didn't even realize that it was an apology. It literally made zero sense. If you'd care to explain, I'm perfectly willing to read an explanation...however, all you're doing is being a hypocrite.
Okay....as simple as possible...

"When in Rome, do as Romans do"


That's as simple as I can make it. I don't communicate well, sue me.
Opal Isle
04-10-2004, 06:18
Okay....as simple as possible...

"When in Rome, do as Romans do"


That's as simple as I can make it. I don't communicate well, sue me.
Then I can't accept your apology. You justify stereotyping by using the bandwagon argument. That's hardly an apology.
Colodia
04-10-2004, 06:19
Then I can't accept your apology. You justify stereotyping by using the bandwagon argument. That's hardly an apology.
Meh, fine then.
FAStalin
04-10-2004, 06:19
They didn't call me, probably figured it would be a waste of time, seeing as how I'm enlisted in the USMC.
Anthalmycia
04-10-2004, 06:46
One of my bosses is a Ret. Lt. Col. of the Air Force. He flew cover missions for helicopters in Vietnam along with bombing runs. He also worked in the Pentagon for a while, and in the White House under Reagan. He also helped design the Stealth Bomber and took Carter on the first official flight of the Doomsday plane (though only as a co-pilot...and there's a funny story about Carter's cat). Now that he's Ret. all he does is raise a few cattle and bale almost 500 acres of alfalfa...rarely leaves home. Interesting guy, definitely one of the biggest role models in my life.

However, despite being atheletic (I say that because I did play 3 varsity sports in high school, along with another 6 intramural sports), the military won't accept me for service unless in great need. This is because I suffer from chronic migraine-type headaches that require pretty heavy medication, plus I have a slight problem with the tendons on my feet that may require surgery in the future. And my vision sucks.

So, I'm out in the cold. Although the government is still paying for my education, but that's because I'm poor.

For all the soldiers out there: big props. You deserve a lot more respect than people give you. Too many people stereotype you as Arab-raping torturers like the couple of people at Abu Gharib.