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Well after letting the debates settle in for a couple of days, I started to look around the net for feedback regarding the Presidential debate and the comment that was most interesting and I fully agree with, is that Kerry "looked like a Commander-in-Chief".

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I truly believe that Kerry caught Bush totally off guard and clearly tarnished Bush's image as that of a "war President".

It will certainly be even more interesting to see if Kerry can keep the pressure on Bush in the next two debates, especially the one concerning the economy.

I wouldn't blame Bush if he phoned in sick. :D

The second debate will be a defining moment.

The format is townhall and they say the shrub likes that best. If he gets beat again, I really doubt there will be a third.....

I can't wait to see the Edwards-Cheney debate. That'll be fun.

I can't wait to see the Edwards-Cheney debate. That'll be fun.

I don't think it'll be fun for Edwards. Frankly I think he's too nice. I really like the guy, but he doesn't seem aggressive enough to actually go after The Dark One in a debate.

I don't think it'll be fun for Edwards. Frankly I think he's too nice. I really like the guy, but he doesn't seem aggressive enough to actually go after The Dark One in a debate.

Agree, but it'll be interesting to see such a contrast of style.

The second debate will be a defining moment.

The format is townhall and they say the shrub likes that best. If he gets beat again, I really doubt there will be a third.....
Do you truly believe that Bush would dump the 3rd debate if he gets beaten again?

I don't think it'll be fun for Edwards. Frankly I think he's too nice. I really like the guy, but he doesn't seem aggressive enough to actually go after The Dark One in a debate.
Well you would have to think that if Edwards even gets a draw in that debate, then it would be as good as a victory?

"I really like the guy, but he doesn't seem aggressive enough to actually go after The Dark One in a debate."

If Edwards mentions the Seattle speech from '92 where Cheney speaks out against an invasion and occupation of Iraq I will fall off my chair laughing.

If Edwards goes down the lists of all the military cuts that Cheney advised or supported while under Bush Sr. I will merely laugh a great deal.

Do you truly believe that Bush would dump the 3rd debate if he gets beaten again?


Bush has a legal contract that says if he is shown on camera fidgeting, or looking at his watch, (wich are a couple of habits of his)

He doesnt have to do the other two debates.

"I really like the guy, but he doesn't seem aggressive enough to actually go after The Dark One in a debate."

If Edwards mentions the Seattle speech from '92 where Cheney speaks out against an invasion and occupation of Iraq I will fall off my chair laughing.

If Edwards goes down the lists of all the military cuts that Cheney advised or supported while under Bush Sr. I will merely laugh a great deal.

Actually, this reminds me: I was watching C-SPAN 3 today (yeah, I'm an addict) and they had the October 11 debate between Gore and Bush on. I couldn't believe the stuff Bush was saying; I was truly rolling on the floor, laughing. He mentioned neve removing troops from the Korean Peninsula, not believing that America should ever go and tell another country how to do things (especially nation building), and that he would never, ever stretch the military too thin, among others. It was really great.

Kerry "looked like a Commander-in-Chief".
I must agree with you, he actaully did look like a "commander-in-chief" of 'Waffle House'.:eek:

Well after letting the debates settle in for a couple of days, I started to look around the net for feedback regarding the Presidential debate and the comment that was most interesting and I fully agree with, is that Kerry "looked like a Commander-in-Chief".

http://www.mrc.org/cyberalerts/2004/cyb20041001am.asp#1

I truly believe that Kerry caught Bush totally off guard and clearly tarnished Bush's image as that of a "war President".

It will certainly be even more interesting to see if Kerry can keep the pressure on Bush in the next two debates, especially the one concerning the economy.

I wouldn't blame Bush if he phoned in sick. :D

Kerry couldn't "look like," much less BE a "Commander In Chief" if ALL our lives depended upon his doing so!

I must agree with you, he actaully did look like a "commander-in-chief" of 'Waffle House'.:eek:

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Kerry couldn't "look like," much less BE a "Commander In Chief" if ALL our lives depended upon his doing so!

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I don't think it'll be fun for Edwards. Frankly I think he's too nice. I really like the guy, but he doesn't seem aggressive enough to actually go after The Dark One in a debate.

Edwards wasn't "too nice" to out duel corporate trial lawyers...sharks that make Cheney sound like Rainman (actually, Cheney does sound a little like Rainman...if Rainman were evil.)

Relax Bush supporters, just a little light-hearted ribbing...it's not like I'm suggesting that Cheney do an anotomically impossible sex act on the Senate floor.

Yeah, Edwards has that southern charm, which means he can smile at you, shake your hand and knife you in the ribs all at the same time, and you want to thank him for it. I grew up around it.

I dunno...I'd loveit if Edwards completely opened a can on Cheney, and the Dark One (I LOVE that name for him! :D) had a small heart attack :p

Kerry couldn't "look like," much less BE a "Commander In Chief" if ALL our lives depended upon his doing so!

And why is that exactly?

I dunno...I'd loveit if Edwards completely opened a can on Cheney, and the Dark One (I LOVE that name for him! :D) had a small heart attack :p
Nah--that might raise some sympathy for him. I'd rather Cheney just lost it and went batshit crazy like Zell Miller, started frothing and raving, the whole nine yards. Let people realize just what we've got sitting a heartbeat away from the Oval Office.

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Do you truly believe that Bush would dump the 3rd debate if he gets beaten again?

I do! Then everyone can see just how well Bush can "stay the course" and be "steadfest".

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Just a little wider folks. Were sure to get 'Lurch's' head in there yet!

Just a little wider folks. Were sure to get 'Lurch's' head in there yet!

But first they gotta get Bush out. Apparently he wanted to play with the squirrels.

"Looking like" and "being" are two different things. To be a commander-in-chief, the President has to have the respect of the military. Clinton did not have it, there was actual talk in some areas of the military of "removing" him. Kennedy had the same problem....remember that little party?

Kerry just does not illicit grand support from the military. His constant votes against payraises did not go unnoticed. Many will vote against him just for that reason alone. I keep in touch with my former comrades in arms and they are opposed to Kerry. So i suspect that the military will once again come out heavily for Bush in the end. The Democrats just do not have a recent (30 year) history of doing well by the military.

But first they gotta get Bush out. Apparently he wanted to play with the squirrels.
I read somewhere that the only difference between the squirrels reactions and those of democrats, is the squirrels offer sound reasoning.

i am very much looking forward to the edwards/cheney debate. the men have such different styles that it should be very entertaining

edwards isnt just a trial lawyer, he got stinking rich at it. that means he can think on his feet without having to rely on scriptwriters or handlers to come up with lines for him.

and well we all know what cheney is like.

dont forget to buy popcorn

Cheney will rant, rave, froth at the mouth and spout horrible false accusations that the White House will be running damage control on for days - maybe weeks.

Edwards will be as clear, articulate, persuasive and likeable as he always has been in front of juries, and will eat Cheney alive with incomparable grace.

I wish I had a DVD burner for this. I really do.

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OMG! LOL!

Cheney will rant, rave, froth at the mouth and spout horrible false accusations that the White House will be running damage control on for days - maybe weeks.

Edwards will be as clear, articulate, persuasive and likeable as he always has been in front of juries, and will eat Cheney alive with incomparable grace.

I wish I had a DVD burner for this. I really do.

Oh please....Edwards, like you, is probably underestimating Cheney and just might have his clocked cleaned. Cheney is in his element. Edwards was a lawyer, but has what 2 years experience in Congress?

Cheney will rant, rave, froth at the mouth and spout horrible false accusations that the White House will be running damage control on for days - maybe weeks.

Edwards will be as clear, articulate, persuasive and likeable as he always has been in front of juries, and will eat Cheney alive with incomparable grace.

I wish I had a DVD burner for this. I really do.
Ahh, truth reveals itself in your words of wisdom. I guess that's why he is one very rich jack ass, he can look you in the eye all the while knowing he is lying. Just what we need more of in Washington, certified liars.

Ahh, truth reveals itself in your words of wisdom. I guess that's why he is one very rich jack ass, he can look you in the eye all the while knowing he is lying. Just what we need more of in Washington, certified liars.
Does anyone else find this ironic? A Bush supporter decrying the thought of having a 'certified liar' in Washington?

Just to be clear on this, are you accusing Bush of lying, or are you accusing his supporters of lying?

Just to be clear on this, are you accusing Bush of lying, or are you accusing his supporters of lying?

I am accusing Bush of lying and his follwers of not opening up their damn eyes to see the truth.

I am accusing Bush of lying and his follwers of not opening up their damn eyes to see the truth.

And I accuse Kerry of being an amoral opportunist and his followers of not opening up their eyes to see the truth.

And I accuse Kerry of being an amoral opportunist and his followers of not opening up their eyes to see the truth.
I thought you thought that all Kerry supporters were just against Bush and thus we have open eyes just hate Bush?

And way, I like Kerry and don't hate Bush. I don't like Bush's policies and the way he acted in debate.

Why amoral? I know we can debate till dawn about opportunists but why amoral?

I thought you thought that all Kerry supporters were just against Bush and thus we have open eyes just hate Bush?

And way, I like Kerry and don't hate Bush. I don't like Bush's policies and the way he acted in debate.

Why amoral? I know we can debate till dawn about opportunists but why amoral?

You want a list???

1. Tell a friend that "I think the best thing for a politician right now is to go to Vietnam, then come back and be against the war."

2. Go to Vietnam, get awarded three highly questionable Purple Hearts, then come back home and slander those with whom you served, and toss some medals over the White House fence pretending they're yours. Then later in life have the real medals mounted and displayed as though they were the centerpiece of your life.

3. Alter being elected a Senator, never bother to show up for over 70% of the rollcall voting, then vote both pro and con on bills and their amendments so you can say later that you voted for it to those who advocate the bill, and tell those who oppose it that you voted against it.

4. Tell some people that you're in favor of the war in Iraq, then later vote against funding for things like body armor for the soldiers you voted to send over.

5. Ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

This is the last damned post I will make on this subject in this forum, since Kerry fanatcis will either disregard any evidence that their god has feet of clay, or attack me for daring to state that he does.

Oh please....Edwards, like you, is probably underestimating Cheney and just might have his clocked cleaned. Cheney is in his element. Edwards was a lawyer, but has what 2 years experience in Congress?

HAHA! My college beat Cheney 38-0 on our home field! Alas that was in College Football!

As for the VP Debate Biff, You are right! Edwards does better when he is able to move. When he is stationary, he is NOT at his best whereas Cheney is at his best in this type of element.

As for Kerry, yes he did look good. I will not deny it. However, I do believe that at the end of this election process, Bush will win re-election.

You want a list???
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5. Ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

Wow! What an incredible reason why not to vote for Kerry! You came up with 4. And then ran out of steam and had to resort to "Ad infinitum, ad nauseum". Certainly has me re-evaluating my positions, I can tell you. Hard to argue against such in-depth arguments as "Ad infinitum, ad nauseum". :rolleyes:
When you wrote "Ad infinitum, ad nauseum", you weren't perhaps confused and thinking about your own posts by any chance were you?
1. Tell a friend that "I think the best thing for a politician right now is to go to Vietnam, then come back and be against the war."
BTW, why should any politician go to Vietnam 'right now'? What has Vietnam got to do with the chaos happening in Iraq? ;)

Does anyone else find this ironic? A Bush supporter decrying the thought of having a 'certified liar' in Washington?
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