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I dont like you either MK but thats not the point of this whole arguement, if someone is gonna insult me the least you could do is make sense
you have a grand total of 6 posts-how do you even knowe me?

While it's true that war criminal Eisenhower got us involved in Vietnam, it was Lyndon Bolshevik Johnson who sent the first combat troops there. And it was Harry Soviet Truman who got us entangled in Korea.

"War criminal" Eisenhower? What?

Blaming Vietnam on him is ridiculous

"War criminal" Eisenhower? What?

Blaming Vietnam on him is ridiculous
Eisenhower killed democracy in Iran

1952 - Lame duckTruman approves $60 million for support of the French effort in Vietnam.

1954 - Eisenhower is anxious to support the French, but only if they agree to giving Vietnam independence. Vietnam becomes split. America, among others, pledges support for the south.

Eisenhower leaves office: a few hundred advisors in Vietnam

1963: 15,000

1964: LBJ begins to bomb the north

From Ambrose, Rise to Globalism

Eisenhower killed democracy in Iran

How so?

Man you are a jerk.
Whaddya mean, Dylan wrote it! Good tune too!

Way to not read the whole topic.

By the way, this entire thread is proof toward a recent theory of mine that the line between the radical left and the radical right is a circle: Alan is so concerned about stopping killing and murder that he is willing to kill and murder to stop it. See where I'm coming from?

Way to not read the whole topic.

By the way, this entire thread is proof toward a recent theory of mine that the line between the radical left and the radical right is a circle: Alan is so concerned about stopping killing and murder that he is willing to kill and murder to stop it. See where I'm coming from?

I do. ;) And may I say, nice use of puppet?

Way to not read the whole topic.

By the way, this entire thread is proof toward a recent theory of mine that the line between the radical left and the radical right is a circle: Alan is so concerned about stopping killing and murder that he is willing to kill and murder to stop it. See where I'm coming from?

Yeah, so. You gun-loving conservatives will try to kill us first.

It can be justified, for a man of peace, to want violence, as long as it is for the continuation of peace.

Yeah, so. You gun-loving conservatives will try to kill us first.

It can be justified, for a man of peace, to want violence, as long as it is for the continuation of peace.

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Do you really believe that you're a "man of peace" when you seem to think everyone who disagrees with you is a republican conservative who wants to kill you? If this whole thread is not just some sort of joke, I really hope you will take my advice and talk to your school councelor, because if this is in truth your mind it seems obvious to me that you are suffering from a serious case of paranoid dementia.
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I have talked to my school conselor.

And they found nothing wrong with me.

I have talked to my school conselor.

And they found nothing wrong with me.

Then please see a professional psychiatrist.

you have a grand total of 6 posts-how do you even knowe me?

I must've missed the part where I said i knew you...... I give up on forums now, you damn liberals can't make sense and its making my head asplode, if you absolutely MUST tell me you hate me youll have to telegram me cuz Im not coming back to this forum, down with liberals, GO REPUBLICANS not repbuclicans

I must've missed the part where I said i knew you...... I give up on forums now, you damn liberals can't make sense and its making my head asplode, if you absolutely MUST tell me you hate me youll have to telegram me cuz Im not coming back to this forum, down with liberals, GO REPUBLICANS not repbuclicans
conservatives are intolerant dividers and I dont hate you I hate what you stand for

Lack of Logic + Lyrics = Stoopid.

i find this rather humorous a poor teenage "know it all" thinks that us republicans want to kill him. well i will tell you this if you say that to certian people in the south...you might get your wish. oh and btw read this speech by a great man. oh yes btw this man is a democrat. and also learn how to spell republican.Since I last stood in this spot, a whole new generation of the Miller Family has been born: Four great grandchildren.

Along with all the other members of our close-knit family -- they are my and Shirley's most precious possessions.

And I know that's how you feel about your family also.

Like you, I think of their future, the promises and the perils they will face.

Like you, I believe that the next four years will determine what kind of world they will grow up in.

And like you, I ask which leader is it today that has the vision, the willpower and, yes, the backbone to best protect my family?

The clear answer to that question has placed me in this hall with you tonight. For my family is more important than my party.

There is but one man to whom I am willing to entrust their future and that man's name is George Bush.

In the summer of 1940, I was an eight-year-old boy living in a remote little Appalachian valley.

Our country was not yet at war but even we children knew that there were some crazy men across the ocean who would kill us if they could.

President Roosevelt, in his speech that summer, told America "all private plans, all private lives, have been in a sense repealed by an overriding public danger."

In 1940 Wendell Wilkie was the Republican nominee.

And there is no better example of someone repealing their "private plans" than this good man.

He gave Roosevelt the critical support he needed for a peacetime draft, an unpopular idea at the time.

And he made it clear that he would rather lose the election than make national security a partisan campaign issue.

Shortly before Wilkie died he told a friend, that if he could write his own epitaph and had to choose between "here lies a president" or "here lies one who contributed to saving freedom", he would prefer the latter.

Where are such statesmen today?

Where is the bi-partisanship in this country when we need it most?

Now, while young Americans are dying in the sands of Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan, our nation is being torn apart and made weaker because of the Democrat's manic obsession to bring down our Commander-in-Chief.

What has happened to the party I've spent my life working in?

I can remember when Democrats believed that it was the duty of America to fight for freedom over tyranny.

It was Democratic President Harry Truman who pushed the Red Army out of Iran, who came to the aid of Greece when Communists threatened to overthrow it, who stared down the Soviet blockade of West Berlin by flying in supplies and saving the city.

Time after time in our history, in the face of great danger, Democrats and Republicans worked together to ensure that freedom would not falter. But not today.

Motivated more by partisan politics than by national security, today's Democratic leaders see America as an occupier, not a liberator.

And nothing makes this Marine madder than someone calling American troops occupiers rather than liberators.

Tell that to the one-half of Europe that was freed because Franklin Roosevelt led an army of liberators, not occupiers.

Tell that to the lower half of the Korean Peninsula that is free because Dwight Eisenhower commanded an army of liberators, not occupiers.

Tell that to the half a billion men, women and children who are free today from the Baltics to the Crimea, from Poland to Siberia, because Ronald Reagan rebuilt a military of liberators, not occupiers.

Never in the history of the world has any soldier sacrificed more for the freedom and liberty of total strangers than the American soldier. And, our soldiers don't just give freedom abroad, they preserve it for us here at home.

For it has been said so truthfully that it is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us the freedom of the press.

It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to protest.

It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag who gives that protester the freedom to abuse and burn that flag.

No one should dare to even think about being the Commander in Chief of this country if he doesn't believe with all his heart that our soldiers are liberators abroad and defenders of freedom at home.

But don't waste your breath telling that to the leaders of my party today. In their warped way of thinking America is the problem, not the solution.

They don't believe there is any real danger in the world except that which America brings upon itself through our clumsy and misguided foreign policy.

It is not their patriotism - it is their judgment that has been so sorely lacking. They claimed Carter's pacifism would lead to peace.

They were wrong.

They claimed Reagan's defense buildup would lead to war.

They were wrong.

And, no pair has been more wrong, more loudly, more often than the two Senators from Massachusetts, Ted Kennedy and John Kerry.

Together, Kennedy/Kerry have opposed the very weapons system that won the Cold War and that is now winning the War on Terror.

Listing all the weapon systems that Senator Kerry tried his best to shut down sounds like an auctioneer selling off our national security but Americans need to know the facts.

The B-1 bomber, that Senator Kerry opposed, dropped 40% of the bombs in the first six months of Operation Enduring Freedom.

The B-2 bomber, that Senator Kerry opposed, delivered air strikes against the Taliban in Afghanistan and Hussein's command post in Iraq.

The F-14A Tomcats, that Senator Kerry opposed, shot down Khadifi's Libyan MIGs over the Gulf of Sidra. The modernized F-14D, that Senator Kerry opposed, delivered missile strikes against Tora Bora.

The Apache helicopter, that Senator Kerry opposed, took out those Republican Guard tanks in Kuwait in the Gulf War. The F-15 Eagles, that Senator Kerry opposed, flew cover over our Nation's Capital and this very city after 9/11.

I could go on and on and on: Against the Patriot Missile that shot down Saddam Hussein's scud missiles over Israel, Against the Aegis air-defense cruiser, Against the Strategic Defense Initiative, Against the Trident missile, against, against, against.

This is the man who wants to be the Commander in Chief of our U.S. Armed Forces?

U.S. forces armed with what? Spitballs?

Twenty years of votes can tell you much more about a man than twenty weeks of campaign rhetoric.

Campaign talk tells people who you want them to think you are. How you vote tells people who you really are deep inside.

Senator Kerry has made it clear that he would use military force only if approved by the United Nations.

Kerry would let Paris decide when America needs defending. I want Bush to decide.

John Kerry, who says he doesn't like outsourcing, wants to outsource our national security.

That's the most dangerous outsourcing of all. This politician wants to be leader of the free world.

Free for how long?

For more than twenty years, on every one of the great issues of freedom and security, John Kerry has been more wrong, more weak and more wobbly than any other national figure. As a war protestor, Kerry blamed our military.

As a Senator, he voted to weaken our military. And nothing shows that more sadly and more clearly than his vote this year to deny protective armor for our troops in harms way, far-away.

George Bush understands that we need new strategies to meet new threats.

John Kerry wants to re-fight yesterday's war. George Bush believes we have to fight today's war and be ready for tomorrow's challenges. George Bush is committed to providing the kind of forces it takes to root out terrorists.

No matter what spider hole they may hide in or what rock they crawl under.

George Bush wants to grab terrorists by the throat and not let them go to get a better grip.

From John Kerry, they get a "yes-no-maybe" bowl of mush that can only encourage our enemies and confuse our friends.

I first got to know George Bush when we served as governors together. I admire this man.

I am moved by the respect he shows the First Lady, his unabashed love for his parents and his daughters, and the fact that he is unashamed of his belief that God is not indifferent to America.

I can identify with someone who has lived that line in "Amazing Grace," "Was blind, but now I see," and I like the fact that he's the same man on Saturday night that he is on Sunday morning.

He is not a slick talker but he is a straight shooter and, where I come from, deeds mean a lot more than words.

I have knocked on the door of this man's soul and found someone home, a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel.

The man I trust to protect my most precious possession: my family.

This election will change forever the course of history, and that's not any history. It's our family's history.

The only question is how. The answer lies with each of us. And, like many generations before us, we've got some hard choosing to do.

Right now the world just cannot afford an indecisive America. Fainthearted, self-indulgence will put at risk all we care about in this world.

In this hour of danger our President has had the courage to stand up. And this Democrat is proud to stand up with him.

Thank you.

God Bless this great country and God Bless George W. Bush.

and also Zell miller made this speech at the RNC

Zell Miller is a southern KKK republican who is too opportunistic and dishonest to give up the transparent farce of claiming to be a democrat.

I do. ;) And may I say, nice use of puppet?

Uh, this ISN'T a puppet. I don't know WHAT made you think that, but it's not.

Yeah, so. You gun-loving conservatives will try to kill us first.

It can be justified, for a man of peace, to want violence, as long as it is for the continuation of peace.

Excuse me, but I made no statement declaring which side I was on. Pleas tell me where you got the idea that I am a conservative.

Way to not read the whole topic.

By the way, this entire thread is proof toward a recent theory of mine that the line between the radical left and the radical right is a circle: Alan is so concerned about stopping killing and murder that he is willing to kill and murder to stop it. See where I'm coming from?

As you can see, I made no mention of my position in this debate. I was merely pointing out that this topic is proof to my theory.

Liberials must be unified in their war against ignorance and violence. Against intolerance, homophobism, racism. Why just yesterday my friend was called the N word by one of you nazi repbulicans.(I saw his car Bush Chenney was all over it.) Racisim, intolerance of any kind will be repaid by death. It is the greatest crime a man can commit. Well now my friends got a possible law suit, so I guess that nazi rep slit his own wrist.

I happen to be a conservative, and I agree that racism, homophobism, etc is wrong as well. But what you're doing, calling all republicans nazi's, is just as bad, enough to make you a hypocrite. Please, you must THINK yourself before you type, and don't let John Kerry do your typing for you.

And nothing makes this Marine madder than someone calling American troops occupiers Funny you should say that: GW Bush has said that the US is occupying Iraq... http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/04/20040413-20.html
the attitude of the Iraqis toward the American people...they're not happy they're occupied. I wouldn't be happy if I were occupied either.
Gen. Shinseki said the OCCUPATION would have to be big...
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-02-25-iraq-us_x.htm
Army chief: Force to occupy Iraq massive
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Army's top general said Tuesday a military occupying force for a postwar Iraq could total several hundred thousand soldiers.
And Dubya's daddy didn't want to go into Iraq because it would end up being a messy OCCUPATION. http://www.thememoryhole.org/mil/bushsr-iraq.htm
While we hoped that popular revolt or coup would topple Saddam, neither the U.S. nor the countries of the region wished to see the breakup of the Iraqi state. We were concerned about the long-term balance of power at the head of the Gulf. Trying to eliminate Saddam, extending the ground war into an occupation of Iraq, would have violated our guideline about not changing objectives in midstream, engaging in "mission creep," and would have incurred incalculable human and political costs. Apprehending him was probably impossible. We had been unable to find Noriega in Panama, which we knew intimately. We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq. The coalition would instantly have collapsed, the Arabs deserting it in anger and other allies pulling out as well. Under those circumstances, furthermore, we had been self-consciously trying to set a pattern for handling aggression in the post-cold war world. Going in and occupying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the U.N.'s mandate, would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the U.S. could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land. It would have been a dramatically different--and perhaps barren--outcome. Gee, it seems that this Bush ain't as smart as the Old Man. Iraq is a mess and Dubya owns it. Marines are dyin' in droves, but the Resident can't say whoops, sorry, wrong war...

Yeah, so. You gun-loving conservatives will try to kill us first.

It can be justified, for a man of peace, to want violence, as long as it is for the continuation of peace.

That's what the entire war is about, moron. Again, you make yourself a hypocrite.

conservatives are intolerant dividers

Interolant dividers?

And who fought for civil rights?

Ohh, that's right.

Republicans.

:rolleyes:

Exactly. People like Alan, who sort people out by calling them racisits, or homophobes, are the ones "dividing" anything.

And Alan...sorry about your friend being called the N word--I hate that word strongly--but that doesn't mean you should accuse ALL conservatives of being the same way. So that guy was a rascist moron who just happens to be a Bush supporter. I know of several supporters to John Kerry's campaign who use the N word like its nothing.

this Alansycist(i might have mispelled ur name and i dont give a crap) is a typical ultra liberal communist who needs to be lined ap against the wall and shot for his one sided completly hipocritical stupidity(debating with such a moran is pointless, why waste time when you can simply use force to shut them up)

P.S: all of communism and ultra liberalism needs to be destroyed as quickly as possible period


I thoroughly disagree with you there. This is America, not Hungary. In America, people are allowed to have their own opinions and ideas. If Alan wants to be ultra-lib, that's his right to do. While I may agree with almost nothing he feverishly types, I will defend to the death his right to type and speak it. I wouldn't harm him for it, though. He found something and believes in it. What he doesn't realize, or care about, is that he has a right to do so because of the country he so adamantly despises.

Bush is losing the war in Iraq and he already lost it in Afghanistan which has already returned back to taliban control

When did this supposed "back to Taliban" thing happen, exactly? Cause as far as I know, we still have people there looking for bin Laden. And protecting the country from the Taliban.

Interolant dividers?

And who fought for civil rights?

Ohh, that's right.

Republicans.

:rolleyes:
right LIBERAL republicans did this and they were nothing like the rightwing nazi republicans in power nowadays

When did this supposed "back to Taliban" thing happen, exactly? Cause as far as I know, we still have people there looking for bin Laden. And protecting the country from the Taliban.
Bush outsourced the hunt for Osama with Afhgan warlords who are secret admirers of Osama

When did this supposed "back to Taliban" thing happen, exactly? Cause as far as I know, we still have people there looking for bin Laden. And protecting the country from the Taliban.

10,000 men are looking for Osama. 100,000 are keeping peace in Iraq.

Whatever Bush bombed the towers and the whole war is a zionist/repbulican/capitalist conspiracy. So who gives a flying fuck?

Well none of your posts do.

right LIBERAL republicans did this and they were nothing like the rightwing nazi republicans in power nowadays

So I guess that being a more liberal type of republican still makes me a scumbag, eh?

Well none of your posts do.

You're the paranoid one. I even tried to defend you...did you see that?

So I guess that being a more liberal type of republican still makes me a scumbag, eh?

If you voted for Bush or plan to vote for Bush, Yes.

Exactly. People like Alan, who sort people out by calling them racisits, or homophobes, are the ones "dividing" anything.

And Alan...sorry about your friend being called the N word--I hate that word strongly--but that doesn't mean you should accuse ALL conservatives of being the same way. So that guy was a rascist moron who just happens to be a Bush supporter. I know of several supporters to John Kerry's campaign who use the N word like its nothing.

It's not the word. I'm fine with ******. It's just a teacher should not demean or persecute a student in anyway, shape or form. And repbulican teachers often do.

If you voted for Bush or plan to vote for Bush, Yes.


That's why I'm not voting. I'm done with thinking about Washington. Its pointless and stupid, no matter what happens.

So I guess that being a more liberal type of republican still makes me a scumbag, eh?
no it just makes you very rare and unwelcome in the Bush white house

p.s I have nothing against liberal-moderate repubs at all but theyre not the ones in charge of todays GOP

That's why I'm not voting. I'm done with thinking about Washington. Its pointless and stupid, no matter what happens.

I just got on here to debate with people. I have friends that are both as liberal as you (ok, not quite....) and as conservative as the Pope. Pretty much, this is a boredom killer for me.

I belive in dictatorship, death penalty, and the shooting of illiegal immigrants.

I am a liberial fascist.

Oh, Alan, I feel I owe you an apology for calling you a moron. It wasn't my place to do, as I don't care about politics. I just like to debate. I can debate for libs, too.

What is bad is that you make everyone who has even the slightest disagreement with you seem stupid. People are entitled to their opinions. Its fine that you don't agree--That's what makes you a human being, and is also a freedom guaranteed to you in the U.S. Constitution.

Oh, Alan, I feel I owe you an apology for calling you a moron. It wasn't my place to do, as I don't care about politics. I just like to debate. I can debate for libs, too.

What is bad is that you make everyone who has even the slightest disagreement with you seem stupid.

You're right, your not a real repbulican. Repbulicans never admit their wrong.

Truce.

I belive in dictatorship, death penalty, and the shooting of illiegal immigrants.

I am a liberial fascist.

I believe in the death penalty. Immigrants can be deported back home, no problem there. The whole dictatorship thing...I'm still deciding my opinion. It all depends what kind of dictatorship. Are you thinking "free thinking, have fun but don't break laws" dictatorship, or are you going for "iron fist, no one so much as blinks unless I say so"?

I believe in the death penalty. Immigrants can be deported back home, no problem there. The whole dictatorship thing...I'm still deciding my opinion. It all depends what kind of dictatorship. Are you thinking "free thinking, have fun but don't break laws" dictatorship, or are you going for "iron fist, no one so much as blinks unless I say so"?

I wish my old website wasn't shut down(school admins and the FBI). Here's a link my nation: I'll let you look at it and make-up your mind.

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=alansyists

You know what. Bush instigated 9/11, in collabroation with Isarel. I gotta go.
You are an idiot.

By the way, you criticize the president for his military record, have you fought in a war?

You are an idiot.

By the way, you criticize the president for his military record, have you fought in a war?


Actually I'm 13 so No. I've gotten into a few fights at school. LOL

Actually I'm 13 so No. I've gotten into a few fights at school. LOL
Well, I have fought in a war, so based on your criteria, I am eligible to talk about war, and you are not, child.

http://www.europa.com/~john/cannon.jpg

Here is a tiny ignore cannon for the tiny little mind in your head.

Well, I have fought in a war, so based on your criteria, I am eligible to talk about war, and you are not, child.

http://www.europa.com/~john/cannon.jpg

Here is a tiny ignore cannon for the tiny little mind in your head.

What Kosovo? as the guy that presses the big red button?

wheter you like him or not or voted for him or not, or if you didnt vote, shutup. he is our commander-in-chief. we elected him. stop looking at faults(you all have many many of them) and look for positive aspects

"About 40% vote one way, and 40% vote for the other guy, not because they like the candidate but because it has to be done. The remaining 20% you want to get, they don't care what you say as long as you're honest."
Chief of Staff talking to new President Ryan
Executive Orders by Tom Clancy

which one are you?

Having tried to read Alan's shitty, illegible screeds, I have found that there is indeed a way to cause massive cerebral hemorrages easily.

More proof that the teenage generation today needs to be liquidated.

Having tried to read Alan's shitty, illegible screeds, I have found that there is indeed a way to cause massive cerebral hemorrages easily.

More proof that the teenage generation today needs to be liquidated.

They're plenty of people that agree with me. We are the up-coming generation, and who ever controls them, controls the world. Muhahahahahaha

Alansyists is not stupid, he is a high functioning paranoid sociopath with delusions of grandeur.

Well, I have fought in a war, so based on your criteria, I am eligible to talk about war, and you are not, child.

http://www.europa.com/~john/cannon.jpg

Here is a tiny ignore cannon for the tiny little mind in your head.
Bush never fought in a war either so why do you support him insted of the war hero Kerry?

Bush never fought in a war either so why do you support him insted of the war hero Kerry?

Possibly because Kerry turned his back on his brethren fighting in Indochina?

Possibly because Kerry turned his back on his brethren fighting in Indochina?
only the ones who committed war crimes that we all KNOW happened

only the ones who committed war crimes that we all KNOW happened

Nevermind the fact that POW'S were forced to hear John Kerry's speeches as they sat their, being tortured.

hitler had more of a reason?

when he invaded other countries using the reason to create a master race and practiced genocide aganist jews and other minorities are you a nazi?
what is your problem?

Saddam was as bad as Hitler, are you saying saddam was better to be left in power to opress his people and possibly conjure up wmd to lob into israel?

maby you should base your statements more on fact than emotion

Nevermind the fact that POW'S were forced to hear John Kerry's speeches as they sat their, being tortured.
is that the latest fairy story from the discredited Swiftboat liers who never served directly with Kerry and who are working for Bushs campaign?

Well, I have fought in a war, so based on your criteria, I am eligible to talk about war, and you are not, child.

http://www.europa.com/~john/cannon.jpg

Here is a tiny ignore cannon for the tiny little mind in your head.

Simply being in the military does not give you the right to judge people.

You've looked at the records of my party affiliation in my voter registrations? You've studied, even lightly, my posts on this forum? No, of course you haven't, or else you would know that it makes you look incredibly stupid to call me a "Repbulican"... or a "Republican" or whatever. Can it possibly fit into your feverishly twitching gray matter organ that not everyone who realizes what a fucktard you are is a Republican?

So? He calls EVERYONE a republican. Which is made even stupider by the fact that he can't spell it.

"Repbulican" bah.

Oh, and Alan, it would be nice if you'd answer my second post.

Of course, whatever Alansyists says about Republicans in the US is negligable at best. Time and time again he has proven that his knowledge on the subject rivals my knowledge of nuclear physics.

is that the latest fairy story from the discredited Swiftboat liers who never served directly with Kerry and who are working for Bushs campaign?

No.

It has nothing to do with the swifties.

hitler had more of a reason?

when he invaded other countries using the reason to create a master race and practiced genocide aganist jews and other minorities are you a nazi?
what is your problem?

Saddam was as bad as Hitler, are you saying saddam was better to be left in power to opress his people and possibly conjure up wmd to lob into israel?

maby you should base your statements more on fact than emotion


Firstly, WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT ISAREL.

Secoundly we "Americans" have killed 30,000 innocent Iraqis. And we have WMD's. Hmmm killed a bunch of Iraqis, and has WMD's, damn that sounds familiair.

Should the UN sanction us? We're doing the same things as Saddam. How about you look at the before-and-after stastics(I can never spell that word).
And you'll see the US has only demolished Iraq.