NationStates Jolt Archive

Okay, so they tried to pass off the last one as a joke by Carl Cameron that shouldn't have been posted. Fine--even though you have to question the objectivity of a senior political correspondent who makes those kinds of jokes after previously having been outed as a Bush supporter from way back. (Why he's the Fox News Senior Political Correspondent considering his close ties to the Bush campaign is another story altogether.)

But now they've gone too far. (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,134268,00.html)Of course, there were some Kerry supporters in attendance who had no doubts whatever about their candidate.

"We're trying to get Comrade Kerry elected and get that capitalist enabler George Bush out of office," said 17-year-old Komoselutes Rob of Communists for Kerry.

"Even though he, too, is a capitalist, he supports my socialist values more than President Bush," Rob said, before assuring FOXNews.com that his organization was not a parody group. When asked his thoughts on Washington's policy toward Communist holdout North Korea, Rob said: "The North Koreans are my comrades to a point, and I'm sure they support Comrade Kerry, too."

It is unclear whether the Kerry campaign has welcomed the Communists' endorsement.
But who are the Communists for Kerry (http://communistsforkerry.com)? Click on the "About us" link. It takes you here (http://www.hellgate.org/disclaimer/).
"Communists for Kerry" is a campaign of the Hellgate Republican Club, a tax exempt non-partisan public advocacy "527" organization that exists for the purpose of;

"Informing voters with satire and irony, how political candidates make decisions based on the failed social economic principles of socialism that punish the individual by preventing them from becoming their dream through proven ideas of entrepreneurship and freedom."

Our members help elect candidates who support economic growth through Entrepreneurship, limited government and lower taxes. Communists For Kerry is separate and distinct from the Communist party of America and any of its organization. None of it's members are members of any communist organizations.
Fox News made no mention of the fact that "Communists for Kerry" was as much a spoof as "Billionaires for Bush." They treated them as a legitimate Communist organization, with the full knowledge of how their demographic will react to such news.

It's sad, but Fox News is rapidly becoming just another Newsmax or WorldNetDaily.

If you couldn't tell the parody going on, it must have been a late night for you or something else that has taken the edge off of you. Get some sleep. It was funny. :p

Honestly, the problem here is that people are stupid enough to believe it.

Well.....ok, the REAL problem here is that people who believe it are the kind that will believe anything Fox says, and really have little hope of intellectual redemption left.

If you couldn't tell the parody going on, it must have been a late night for you or something else that has taken the edge off of you. Get some sleep. It was funny. :pDude--this reporting ain't parody. The act may have been, but that's not how it was presented in the article, and if you think it was, I challenge you to provide one scintilla of evidence showing it.

Dude--this reporting ain't parody. The act may have been, but that's not how it was presented in the article, and if you think it was, I challenge you to provide one scintilla of evidence showing it.
I read the article. Can't possibly be a parody. It's the real deal. I have a question. Is Communists for Kerry a right-wing thing? I couldn't really figure it out. I need some sleep. It might just be Democrats spoofing the whole 'Democrats are commies' thing.

I read the article. Can't possibly be a parody. It's the real deal. I have a question. Is Communists for Kerry a right-wing thing? I couldn't really figure it out. I need some sleep. It might just be Democrats spoofing the whole 'Democrats are commies' thing.
Nope--follow the link to Communists for Kerry and click on the About Us link. They're a Republican 527 group.

There's a similar Democratic group--Billionaires for Bush--but whenever they're mentioned on the news, they're always identified as a satirical protest group, anti-Bush. These people were described as being actual Kerry supporters--not satirical Republicans. Shit, if they'd been identified as satirists, I'd have been fine with it.

The paragraph before the quote in the first thread:
And then there were the pranksters in the audience . . . the Communists for Kerry (who, in fact, are rooting for Bush) and the Billionaires for Bush (who, of course, are Kerry supporters).
The article now carries this line at the bottom:
In an version of this article that was published earlier, the Communists for Kerry were portrayed as a group that was supporting John Kerry for president. FOXNews.com’s reporter asked the group’s representative several times whether the group was legitimate and supporting the Democratic candidate, and the spokesman insisted that it was.

Of course everyone who has already read it is hardly likely to do so again, now are they? Apparently no-one in Fox has heard the term 'investigative reporting'. :rolleyes:
Good on Fox for their ingenious ways of distorting the truth and misleading the public without ever needing to admit they are doing so. Well Done Rupert.

Fox News: The Republicon Party's answer to Joseph Goebbels.

Okay, so they tried to pass off the last one as a joke by Carl Cameron that shouldn't have been posted. Fine--even though you have to question the objectivity of a senior political correspondent who makes those kinds of jokes after previously having been outed as a Bush supporter from way back. (Why he's the Fox News Senior Political Correspondent considering his close ties to the Bush campaign is another story altogether.)

But now they've gone too far. (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,134268,00.html)
But who are the Communists for Kerry (http://communistsforkerry.com)? Click on the "About us" link. It takes you here (http://www.hellgate.org/disclaimer/).

Fox News made no mention of the fact that "Communists for Kerry" was as much a spoof as "Billionaires for Bush." They treated them as a legitimate Communist organization, with the full knowledge of how their demographic will react to such news.

It's sad, but Fox News is rapidly becoming just another Newsmax or WorldNetDaily.


LOL! Thats hilarious! I'm sorry if you're pointing to that as a sign of bias on Fox's part, you need a serious humor transplant. This is the first I even heard of this, and even from your quote its obvious this is not meant to be taken seriously!

Did you see any of the interviews with the protestors in NY and Boston? Some of those were great also.

LOL! Thats hilarious! I'm sorry if you're pointing to that as a sign of bias on Fox's part, you need a serious humor transplant. This is the first I even heard of this, and even from your quote its obvious this is not meant to be taken seriously!

Did you see any of the interviews with the protestors in NY and Boston? Some of those were great also.
C'mon, this thread was started by someone who thinks John Stewarts nightly Bush-bashing is the real news. Stewart and Incertonia are both sad, sad little men.

Actually, the real Communist Party of America has issued its endorsement of Senator Kerry. Check their website if you require proof. I'm not arguing anything here, but it is a fact.

That shouldn't come as a surprise, given the fact that aside from diehard socialists (who may be the most stubborn of all political idealogues), pretty much everyone on the "left" is endorsing Kerry. On top of that you have the fact that the CPA has shown a willingness to integrate into the Democratic party in the past.

I am new to the boards, so please excuse me if this has been mentioned already. I think it fits quite well:

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"Is Fox News literally making stuff up out of whole cloth about John Kerry?

I don't expect much from this Republican operation. But this does seem to break new ground.

If you go to the front page of the Fox News site, there's a link right there up front to "Trail Tales: What's that Face".

Link through and you find this ...

Rallying supporters in Tampa Friday, Kerry played up his performance in Thursday night's debate, in which many observers agreed the Massachusetts senator outperformed the president.
"Didn't my nails and cuticles look great? What a good debate!" Kerry said Friday.

With the foreign-policy debate in the history books, Kerry hopes to keep the pressure on and the sense of traction going.

Aides say he will step up attacks on the president in the next few days, and pivot somewhat to the domestic agenda, with a focus on women and abortion rights.

"It's about the Supreme Court. Women should like me! I do manicures," Kerry said.

Kerry still trails in actual horse-race polls, but aides say his performance was strong enough to rally his base and further appeal to voters ready for a change.

"I'm metrosexual — he's a cowboy," the Democratic candidate said of himself and his opponent.

A "metrosexual" is defined as an urbane male with a strong aesthetic sense who spends a great deal of time and money on his appearance and lifestyle.

Did Kerry really say that stuff? Stuff that sounds like classic winger parody? I looked around on google and no other reporters seem to have gotten those choice quotes from Senator Kerry. A source on the Kerry campaign told me Kerry certainly didn't say anything remotely like that.

So what's the story from Fox? Are these quotes real? Made up? Unidentified parody? Straight-up fabrications?


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Now Fox has pulled the article from the front page without explanation. And on the article itself the passages I quoted in the post below have all been removed -- again, without explanation.


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Okay some more details on that bogus Kerry story that ran this morning on the Fox News website. As we noted earlier, this morning the front page of the Fox website ran a story with a series of phony Kerry quotes (see post below). After questions were asked the offending material was quickly pulled from the site, without explanation.

So what happened?

Late this afternoon I spoke to Fox spokesman Paul Schur who told me the following ...

“Carl [Cameron] made a stupid mistake which he regrets. And he has been reprimanded for his lapse in judgment. It was a poor attempt at humor.”

So the Fox reporter covering the Kerry campaign puts together this Kerry-bashing parody right out of the RNC playbook with phony quotes intended to peg him as girlish fool and somehow it found its way on the Fox website as a news item.

Imagine that.


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Fox News has now posted a retraction and apology for the piece with the fabricated Kerry quotes ...

Earlier Friday, FOXNews.com posted an item purporting to contain quotations from Kerry. The item was based on a reporter’s partial script that had been written in jest and should not have been posted or broadcast. We regret the error, which occurred because of fatigue and bad judgment, not malice.

The only retraction doesn't name the reporter in question, Carl Cameron, which was noted in the statement Fox News gave TPM this afternoon."

This is taken from http://talkingpointsmemo.com/. There was also information (however not as much) about this at salon.com

Actually, the real Communist Party of America has issued its endorsement of Senator Kerry. Check their website if you require proof. I'm not arguing anything here, but it is a fact.

They support neither candidate. They just think Bush is the lesser of 2 evils. They have given Kerry no endorsements and still refuse to.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/cpusa.asp

Isn't Bushes Cousin or somthing Head of Fox???

Fox News is a joke, it's amazing that people are stupid enough to trust it.
I rather like the Simpson's piss-take of it.

Yeah..lol...its surprising how accurate the simpsons can be

Left wingers think Fox is a Republican channel, Right wingers think Fox is a left wing channel, i see it in the emails people send them......."fair and balanced" :P

Also the North Koreans have stopped negotiations with america, they want to wait until the elections are over in hoping Kerry will win. They said so themselves, they didnt officially endorse him, but they want him to win because they think he'll be more lenient, even our enemies think Kerry will be weak on defense.

Fox News is a joke, it's amazing that people are stupid enough to trust it.
I rather like the Simpson's piss-take of it.



Fox news is more of a joke and the daily show is more of a news program.

I liked Jon Stewarts analysis of the interview O'rielly did with Bush a little while ago, when he said that bush was courageous for comming on and answering questions that were not provided to him before the show to look over.

"ITS NOT COURAGEOUS.......THATS THE LEAST YOU CAN DO TO HAVE IT STILL BE AN INTERVIEW AND NOT SCRIPTED."



JOURNALISM..........everyone at fox news should be taken off the air with dan rather