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For married folks, long-term relationships, or if you just have sex a lot.

Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 05:28
Something came to mind in another thread that led to a question in my mind.

I'm married, and my wife has been gone for two weeks. She and I are EXTREMELY close. I've noticed alot of changes since she left in my mood (more tired, moody, impatient)...although not where our five year old son is concerned. That's been great. He an I have had two great weeks together, and have gotten much closer, I think.

My question is this: When your significant other(s) is/are away for extended periods of time, what kinds of changes do you notice???
Sexually, emotionally, intellectually, physically, etc...

Oh, and one more thing (one more effect of her absence is I am scatterbrained). My wife is a nurse and told me that prolonged periods of sexual activity in a male promotes more hair growth...everywhere. I've noticed over the last two years that she's right. I'm Native American (mostly) and have very little chest hair....until about a year ago. Now it's sprouting like weeds (ick). My wife swears it's because we have sex so much...your thoughts?
Kenningtonia
02-10-2004, 05:32
My wife and I have plenty of sex and I'm going bald, so I think your wife is full of crap
Dakini
02-10-2004, 05:33
can't wait? masturbate!


it should have some of the effects...

you could even do so over the phone with your wife on the other end and descriptions of fantasies.
Bottle
02-10-2004, 05:37
Something came to mind in another thread that led to a question in my mind.

I'm married, and my wife has been gone for two weeks. She and I are EXTREMELY close. I've noticed alot of changes since she left in my mood (more tired, moody, impatient)...although not where our five year old son is concerned. That's been great. He an I have had two great weeks together, and have gotten much closer, I think.

My question is this: When your significant other(s) is/are away for extended periods of time, what kinds of changes do you notice???
Sexually, emotionally, intellectually, physically, etc...

my lover and i have been involved for 3 years, and we are currently seperated by several thousand miles while we attend school at programs on opposite sides of the country. i have to say that i honestly don't notice any mood changes in myself, other than that i think about sex way more than normal because i am not having any. i miss him, obviously, and i think about him a lot, but i can't say that i have noticed any general mood changes since we seperated.


Oh, and one more thing (one more effect of her absence is I am scatterbrained). My wife is a nurse and told me that prolonged periods of sexual activity in a male promotes more hair growth...everywhere. I've noticed over the last two years that she's right. I'm Native American (mostly) and have very little chest hair....until about a year ago. Now it's sprouting like weeds (ick). My wife swears it's because we have sex so much...your thoughts?
odd, i have not heard of that, nor have i noticed that with my partner. none of my male friends have reported that phenomenon, and none of my medical courses have mentioned any hormonal link that would account for that. it sounds kind of gross, frankly...i don't mind body hair, but for my guy to get shaggier the more we shag would be not so fun; he'd be hirsute by the end of a week.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 05:38
My wife and I have plenty of sex and I'm going bald, so I think your wife is full of crap

Hair on your head doesn't count....but sorry to hear about your affliction...
Alexias
02-10-2004, 05:38
Sex is extremly healthy on many levels,so I would trust her.

Hmm,thing is,I do engage in sexual intercourse often,but the thing is it is only out of lust,and I get most of my women because I'm local powerfull and rich(some people have aspects of their personality that appeal to the opposite sex,I have my money and influence,thats what I have and theres nothing I can do about it)although it is nice too be able to convince someone to get it on anytime I want in exchange for protection,I've noticed I'm getting rather tired of it not meaning anything.Its been a long time since I had a relationship with a girl I liked on more than a physical level,probably months now in fact,and I do find myself longing for those times again.

I don't know if that is relevant at all,I just thought it might be.If it is not,I appologize for cluttering up your thread.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 05:42
my lover and i have been involved for 3 years, and we are currently seperated by several thousand miles while we attend school at programs on opposite sides of the country. i have to say that i honestly don't notice any mood changes in myself, other than that i think about sex way more than normal because i am not having any. i miss him, obviously, and i think about him a lot, but i can't say that i have noticed any general mood changes since we seperated.


odd, i have not heard of that, nor have i noticed that with my partner. none of my male friends have reported that phenomenon, and none of my medical courses have mentioned any hormonal link that would account for that. it sounds kind of gross, frankly...i don't mind body hair, but for my guy to get shaggier the more we shag would be not so fun; he'd be hirsute by the end of a week.

hehehe...

I'm not suggesting I turned into Chewbacca, or anything. I had virtually no chest hair, and now I have a very tiny bit (thankfully...)

What about the first weeks of your separation. If you've been separated for an extended length of time (I have, I'm in the Army), the first weeks were tougher than the middle weeks, but the last days are hardest of all.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 05:43
and abot beng scaterbrained when going a long time without sex with her,it could be that you miss her,it could be that she helps you stay organized,but it might have something too do with sex drastically reducing stress.Maybe your a bit more stressed than usual because you haven't been getting it on?I don't know,amybe it has something too do with that.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 05:44
Sex is extremly healthy on many levels,so I would trust her.

Hmm,thing is,I do engage in sexual intercourse often,but the thing is it is only out of lust,and I get most of my women because I'm local powerfull and rich(some people have aspects of their personality that appeal to the opposite sex,I have my money and influence,thats what I have and theres nothing I can do about it)although it is nice too be able to convince someone to get it on anytime I want in exchange for protection,I've noticed I'm getting rather tired of it not meaning anything.Its been a long time since I had a relationship with a girl I liked on more than a physical level,probably months now in fact,and I do find myself longing for those times again.

I don't know if that is relevant at all,I just thought it might be.If it is not,I appologize for cluttering up your thread.

Actually, this kind of makes me sad. I'm sorry to hear about that. It must be lonely at times. Money and power don't talk back in the middle of the night after a bad dream.
New Shiron
02-10-2004, 05:44
I have been married twice (once for 7 years, current for 3 years)... sounds like she is telling you a fib.... which means she likes having sex (with you specifically)...

that, needless to say, is a good thing ;)

good luck sir

maybe you are just getting older and the hair is just finally coming in?
Bottle
02-10-2004, 05:45
What about the first weeks of your separation. If you've been separated for an extended length of time (I have, I'm in the Army), the first weeks were tougher than the middle weeks, but the last days are hardest of all.
the first week or so was tough, but we have been apart before and i guess maybe we just are used to dealing with it. from past experience i think you are right that the last weeks will be worst; the last time we were seperated we made it through 3 months just fine, but when we got to the last week or so we both became totally neurotic and jumpy.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 05:46
and abot beng scaterbrained when going a long time without sex with her,it could be that you miss her,it could be that she helps you stay organized,but it might have something too do with sex drastically reducing stress.Maybe your a bit more stressed than usual because you haven't been getting it on?I don't know,amybe it has something too do with that.


Well, I know it's not merely sexual (the reason for the changes)...we are also the best of friends, and virtually inseparable. We'll be one of those couples that, when we're 80, she'll still be sitting on my lap, and I'll still be teasing her.

My general stress levels haven't changed. I'm not that stressed out. However, she does keep me very grounded and organized.

Now I'm feeling all mushy...God I love that woman.

:)
Dakini
02-10-2004, 05:46
you could be growing more hair naturally due to aging.

hell, since i started dating my bf, he's sprouted more chest hair. his tiny, cute little patch is getting a tiny bit bigger. though i'm sure you're older than he is... since we're both just removed from puberty and you've got a kid and a wife who's already in a profession that requires a fair bit of education.

but still, older men sprout hair on their ears and such... so who knows?
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 05:47
the first week or so was tough, but we have been apart before and i guess maybe we just are used to dealing with it. from past experience i think you are right that the last weeks will be worst; the last time we were seperated we made it through 3 months just fine, but when we got to the last week or so we both became totally neurotic and jumpy.

I know exactly how that feels. This is my second marriage. I gave my first to the army. I was gone so much that we didn't stand a chance...although, we married so young that we were doomed anyway...
Alexias
02-10-2004, 05:50
Well, I know it's not merely sexual (the reason for the changes)...we are also the best of friends, and virtually inseparable. We'll be one of those couples that, when we're 80, she'll still be sitting on my lap, and I'll still be teasing her.

My general stress levels haven't changed. I'm not that stressed out. However, she does keep me very grounded and organized.

Now I'm feeling all mushy...God I love that woman.

:)

thats nice too hear.Those kind of couples are always the ones who are happy in their old age and not misearable because their children dumped them in a home.Good luck,my man.Sounds too me like your raising a happy kid too.Good for you.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 05:52
you could be growing more hair naturally due to aging.

hell, since i started dating my bf, he's sprouted more chest hair. his tiny, cute little patch is getting a tiny bit bigger. though i'm sure you're older than he is... since we're both just removed from puberty and you've got a kid and a wife who's already in a profession that requires a fair bit of education.

but still, older men sprout hair on their ears and such... so who knows?

I'm only 30, but thanks for the compliments...Most people wouldn't assume that the army equates education.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 05:53
I have been married twice (once for 7 years, current for 3 years)... sounds like she is telling you a fib.... which means she likes having sex (with you specifically)...

that, needless to say, is a good thing ;)

good luck sir

maybe you are just getting older and the hair is just finally coming in?


What I coincidence...I'm a nympho, just like her (and only with her, as well). She doesn't have to fib to get it.... :fluffle: ( I love that icon)

Maybe one of her instructors told her that (doctor) and was kidding...I don't know. Anyone got any research?
Alexias
02-10-2004, 05:56
Actually, this kind of makes me sad. I'm sorry to hear about that. It must be lonely at times. Money and power don't talk back in the middle of the night after a bad dream.

that's more true than I could ever express in words....money can do a hell of alot of things,but somethings are beyond the reach of even the ever faithfull wallet and switchblade.

Ah well,I suppose its for the better.You know somethings wrong when you start talking to your money after bad day.And I'd imagine it'd be evewn worse If it talked back!
Alexias
02-10-2004, 05:58
I'm only 30, but thanks for the compliments...Most people wouldn't assume that the army equates education.

what do you mean?theres no better school than the school of life.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 06:00
What I coincidence...I'm a nympho, just like her (and only with her, as well). She doesn't have to fib to get it.... :fluffle: ( I love that icon)

Maybe one of her instructors told her that (doctor) and was kidding...I don't know. Anyone got any research?

I don't think that makes you a nympho,I just think that means you really,REALLY love your wife.When you love someone as deeply as you do,their all you want.A good thing too,I guess.

Then again,I could be wrong.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 06:02
what do you mean?theres no better school than the school of life.

You are so right...I've spent the last five years of my time working with issues concerning WMD, specifically chemical/biological. Talk about a wake up call...
Alexias
02-10-2004, 06:02
oh shit,the dishwasher broke again....I be right back.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 06:04
You are so right...I've spent the last five years of my time working with issues concerning WMD, specifically chemical/biological. Talk about a wake up call...

wow,really?I can only Imagine.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 06:05
I don't think that makes you a nympho,I just think that means you really,REALLY love your wife.When you love someone as deeply as you do,their all you want.A good thing too,I guess.

Then again,I could be wrong.


I do love her more than I though possible...sometimes I honestly think she saved my life, in a way.

She definitely is all I want, and I want her always.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 06:05
Damn,now my radio broke!How irritating.Wait a sec.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 06:08
I do love her more than I though possible...sometimes I honestly think she saved my life, in a way.

She definitely is all I want, and I want her always.

there you go.See,I was right.Well,I'm always right,but I digress.....

yo man,but what you say there though,that makes the nostaligia hit real hard right there.Damn that brings back memories eh?Well,its wonderfull that your happy with your wife.So many marriages be ending so messily these days,eh?Again,good for you.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 06:11
there you go.See,I was right.Well,I'm always right,but I digress.....

yo man,but what you say there though,that makes the nostaligia hit real hard right there.Damn that brings back memories eh?Well,its wonderfull that your happy with your wife.So many marriages be ending so messily these days,eh?Again,good for you.

Thanks.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 06:18
......sorry,why?I can't seem to remember.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 06:23
You are so right...I've spent the last five years of my time working with issues concerning WMD, specifically chemical/biological. Talk about a wake up call...

what is it your doing now?as an empoyement I mean?
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 06:26
what is it your doing now?as an empoyement I mean?
I'm still in the military. I teach arms control.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 06:28
I'm still in the military. I teach arms control.

wow.That sounds like a difficult job.Must have taken you alot of time to learn.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 06:30
wow.That sounds like a difficult job.Must have taken you alot of time to learn.

Enough time, I guess. What about you? What do you do?
Alexias
02-10-2004, 06:36
oh,um,wait,just let me think of how I could put this.....wait just one minute.
Sir Peter the sage
02-10-2004, 06:37
You are so right...I've spent the last five years of my time working with issues concerning WMD, specifically chemical/biological. Talk about a wake up call...

What sort of wake up call would that be? I'd like to hear from someone that actually knows something about the topic.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 06:40
ok,wait,

I work for an "organization" called P.O.I in the "product distribution","debt collection" and "market controll".

We sell......high demand products,you could say?I not sure how I should pu it,it can actually be more interesting than it sounds.How would I put it though...................
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 06:44
What sort of wake up call would that be? I'd like to hear from someone that actually knows something about the topic.

So much of today's debates are concerning those "loose nukes". You've heard about that, right?

I haven't worked in the nuclear arena, but I've worked in chem/bio several years, and have seen some scary shit. Chemical / Biological factories in Russia, other countries of the former Soviet Union, including Central Asia, and other areas that are just full of shit that could kill the entire human race 10 times over.

Biological weapons scare me more than nuclear. You can at least control a nuclear blast. Biological weapons could easily get out of control. The issue with most of these places is security of the agents in question. Faulty, or nonexistent alarm systems, untrained, or nonexistent security forces, broken, or nonexistent perimeter security measures, etc.

And that's just the physical aspect. For example, when the soviet union collapsed, there were literally tens of thousands of scientists in the USSR's weapons program. They were all suddenly out of work, with families to feed. The U.S. government actually has a lot of programs to see that they remained employed in a peaceful manner (research, etc) so that they aren't forced to sell their knowledge to the highest bidder. The same can be said for many middle eastern countries. They have less technological knowledge, but more money and desire. A dangerous combo.

What it is, exactly, that you would like to know?
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 06:45
ok,wait,

I work for an "organization" called P.O.I in the "product distribution","debt collection" and "market controll".

We sell......high demand products,you could say?I not sure how I should pu it,it can actually be more interesting than it sounds.How would I put it though...................


No need. I got it.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 06:45
Enough time, I guess. What about you? What do you do?

could I perhaps tell you in way of the in game message system?I'd preffer not too post it.Just for privacy,you know?I tell you,but I prefer not too have it here.K?

Indeed it wuld be interesting too hear more about the work you did.Do tell.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 06:48
could I perhaps tell you in way of the in game message system?
Huh?
Sir Peter the sage
02-10-2004, 06:48
As for the topic of this thread. My folks are still "old married couple", the type that love each other and love to drive each other nuts. Aaaaahhhh sweet dysfunction. But when my dad had a sales job and left for weeks at a time my mom always tried to keep busy. How to interpret that I'm not really sure :D.

O, and thanks for answering. Ya, that is some scary shit.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 06:51
As for the topic of this thread. My folks are still "old married couple", the type that love each other and love to drive each other nuts. Aaaaahhhh sweet dysfunction. But when my dad had a sales job and left for weeks at a time my mom always tried to keep busy. How to interpret that I'm not really sure :D.

O, and thanks for answering. Ya, that is some scary shit.


I hope to be one of those old couples who struggle to walk through the park together holding hands...that's too cute.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 06:53
...and you're welcome for the answer.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 06:54
No need. I got it.

oh,ok,you know what I mean.Sharp mind you have.Catch on quicky it seems.Yes,well that is what I do.You could say I am rather lazy as I have done this all my life and never really done that much honest work,which saddens me a bit.I never learned the the value of it.But at least I'm in maoney,and I get to work with childhood friends,so I hve it pretty good.Very good in fact.Its really not fair too all the people who work hard for a livng,ing my opnion,people lik you,you have a real job.Again,something too be proud of.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 06:55
Huh?

oh,sorry,comuter is slow.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 06:59
So much of today's debates are concerning those "loose nukes". You've heard about that, right?

I haven't worked in the nuclear arena, but I've worked in chem/bio several years, and have seen some scary shit. Chemical / Biological factories in Russia, other countries of the former Soviet Union, including Central Asia, and other areas that are just full of shit that could kill the entire human race 10 times over.

Biological weapons scare me more than nuclear. You can at least control a nuclear blast. Biological weapons could easily get out of control. The issue with most of these places is security of the agents in question. Faulty, or nonexistent alarm systems, untrained, or nonexistent security forces, broken, or nonexistent perimeter security measures, etc.

And that's just the physical aspect. For example, when the soviet union collapsed, there were literally tens of thousands of scientists in the USSR's weapons program. They were all suddenly out of work, with families to feed. The U.S. government actually has a lot of programs to see that they remained employed in a peaceful manner (research, etc) so that they aren't forced to sell their knowledge to the highest bidder. The same can be said for many middle eastern countries. They have less technological knowledge, but more money and desire. A dangerous combo.

What it is, exactly, that you would like to know?

Thats trully fascinating and disturbing.I had no Idea.what an awakening for me ideed,I can only imagne what it would be like for you finding out such things first hand while working with such things.Wow.What you can learn if you just ask.

You know,I should remember this.My father devours these things insanly.He'd love too read this.

Thank you for sharing this with me,I sincerly appreciate it.What you can learn....
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 06:59
oh,ok,you know what I mean.Sharp mind you have.Catch on quicky it seems.Yes,well that is what I do.You could say I am rather lazy as I have done this all my life and never really done that much honest work,which saddens me a bit.I never learned the the value of it.But at least I'm in maoney,and I get to work with childhood friends,so I hve it pretty good.Very good in fact.Its really not fair too all the people who work hard for a livng,ing my opnion,people lik you,you have a real job.Again,something too be proud of.


We all do what we all do.

It is a bit ironic, though....I work my ass off for very little.

I'm getting out of the military because of that. I want to give a better life to my family....and be there with them while I do it.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 07:00
...and you're welcome for the answer.


thank you.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 07:02
Thats trully fascinating and disturbing.I had no Idea.what an awakening for me ideed,I can only imagne what it would be like for you finding out such things first hand while working with such things.Wow.What you can learn if you just ask.

You know,I should remember this.My father devours these things insanly.He'd love too read this.

Thank you for sharing this with me,I sincerly appreciate it.What you can learn....


If you want to learn more...read "Biohazard" by Ken Alibek. He used to be in 2nd in command of the Soviet bioweapons program. He defected, and lives in the northeast, now.

You could also read about the CTR program (Cooperative Threat Reduction). That will help.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 07:05
We all do what we all do.

It is a bit ironic, though....I work my ass off for very little.

I'm getting out of the military because of that. I want to give a better life to my family....and be there with them while I do it.

exactly what I mean.I barely do a damn thing,I sell things too people that are bad for them,I break the law,I hurt my competitors and I make tons of money,I'm powerfull,I'm safe and sourounded by friends.You,you work hard,you take care of your family,you devote years of your life too a job and exactly,you get next to nothing.It should be the reverse.Lazy hoodlums lik me should be making no money while hard workers such as yourself shoud be rewarded.Not the other way around.

Your a trully noble person,for doing what you do,I could go on,but I fear I would simply bore you.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 07:07
If you want to learn more...read "Biohazard" by Ken Alibek. He used to be in 2nd in command of the Soviet bioweapons program. He defected, and lives in the northeast, now.

You could also read about the CTR program (Cooperative Threat Reduction). That will help.

oh,thank you.I will check the library once it opens.I must write those names down.Thanks,its very coniderate of you too indulge me in my curiosity.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 07:07
exactly what I mean.I barely do a damn thing,I sell things too people that are bad for them,I break the law,I hurt my competitors and I make tons of money,I'm powerfull,I'm safe and sourounded by friends.You,you work hard,you take care of your family,you devote years of your life too a job and exactly,you get next to nothing.It should be the reverse.Lazy hoodlums lik me should be making no money while hard workers such as yourself shoud be rewarded.Not the other way around.

Your a trully noble person,for doing what you do,I could go on,but I fear I would simply bore you.

It's not boring.

We each are responsible for our own path. In your place, there is nothing to say that I wouldn't have followed the same path.
Nobility, my friend, is a subjective term.

We all do what we must. We are all tempted to take paths other than that which was handed to us, either in a good or bad direction. Myself included.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 07:11
By the way...Are you truly more "ghettofabulous" than I?

hehe...I just looked at your nation. Nice.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 07:16
And you have friends. Loyal friends. I had that once...but the nature of my job has ensured that the only lasting friend I have is my wife...and my kids. I'm not complaining, just stating. Friends are good to have. Loyalty is priceless.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 07:19
It's not boring.

We each are responsible for our own path. In your place, there is nothing to say that I wouldn't have followed the same path.
Nobility, my friend, is a subjective term.

We all do what we must. We are all tempted to take paths other than that which was handed to us, either in a good or bad direction. Myself included.

ah,but my friend,you did not follow the same path.Thats the thing.

And you,you take care of your family,you raise your son like a proper father,me,I don't even know if I have children or not,and its entirely possible.BUt I just ran.And I continue to do so.Not taking responsibility for what I do.And I endanger others who hae nothing to do with my "job",if it can be called that.

Say for example,I am playing with my baby sister outside somewhere,and an enemy of mine were to come and draw a gun on me.I run because I know what he will do.My baby sister,she is but three,she has never don anyhting wrong,never been involvin her brothers crimes,she has no Idea what is happening,she won't run.Who will get shot in the driveby,me or her?

No,just because others could have done what I do does not justify what my decision,and neither does any thing else,not my childhood,not the people around me.

Sometimes I have trouble getting across what I want to say,but your a good man,my friend.How I wish I like you.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 07:20
By the way...Are you truly more "ghettofabulous" than I?

hehe...I just looked at your nation. Nice.

hehe,oh,yah,that.in truth,i'm probably not.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 07:24
And you have friends. Loyal friends. I had that once...but the nature of my job has ensured that the only lasting friend I have is my wife...and my kids. I'm not complaining, just stating. Friends are good to have. Loyalty is priceless.

true,I have many deer friends.Their friendship is pricelless too me,true.But who has earned them?The man who takes time too raise his son and be with his wife,or the guy who makes sure the middle class white kids get their chronic?Maybe you lost friends,but you desrve them more than I ever will.

And whose loyalty have I earned anyway?The loyalty of thieves and murderers.No,you don't deserve friends like that.You deserve much better.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 07:26
ah,but my friend,you did not follow the same path.Thats the thing.

And you,you take care of your family,you raise your son like a proper father,me,I don't even know if I have children or not,and its entirely possible.BUt I just ran.And I continue to do so.Not taking responsibility for what I do.And I endanger others who hae nothing to do with my "job",if it can be called that.

Say for example,I am playing with my baby sister outside somewhere,and an enemy of mine were to come and draw a gun on me.I run because I know what he will do.My baby sister,she is but three,she has never don anyhting wrong,never been involvin her brothers crimes,she has no Idea what is happening,she won't run.Who will get shot in the driveby,me or her?



No,just because others could have done what I do does not justify what my decision,and neither does any thing else,not my childhood,not the people around me.

Sometimes I have trouble getting across what I want to say,but your a good man,my friend.How I wish I like you.

I did not follow the same path because I did not come up in the same way. As I said, each man is responsible for his own destiny, and his own path. The great thing about paths, is, they can fork off into a new direction whenever you want them to. Nothing is set in stone.

And as for your sister...I'd bet just about anything that she wouldn't get hurt. You may think you know how you'd react...but based on what I read in you, I think she'd be just fine with her big brother to protect her...even if it meant that big brother got hurt.

Don't try to be like me, or anyone else. Try to be who you want to be...not who you believe you must be.

I like the way you think. And there is great nobility in honesty about who you are. You are honest in words...if not in deeds. I respect that. I wasn't justifying your actions, just understanding them.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 07:27
true,I have many deer friends.Their friendship is pricelless too me,true.But who has earned them?The man who takes time too raise his son and be with his wife,or the guy who makes sure the middle class white kids get their chronic?Maybe you lost friends,but you desrve them more than I ever will.

And whose loyalty have I earned anyway?The loyalty of thieves and murderers.No,you don't deserve friends like that.You deserve much better.

In my humble opinion, there is no "deserve". There is only "do".
Alexias
02-10-2004, 07:33
I did not follow the same path because I did not come up in the same way. As I said, each man is responsible for his own destiny, and his own path. The great thing about paths, is, they can fork off into a new direction whenever you want them to. Nothing is set in stone.

And as for your sister...I'd bet just about anything that she wouldn't get hurt. You may think you know how you'd react...but based on what I read in you, I think she'd be just fine with her big brother to protect her...even if it meant that big brother got hurt.

Don't try to be like me, or anyone else. Try to be who you want to be...not who you believe you must be.

I like the way you think. And there is great nobility in honesty about who you are. You are honest in words...if not in deeds. I respect that. I wasn't justifying your actions, just understanding them.


I call that very kind of you to say.Thats very touching,you could't have paid me a nicer compliment.Your a very deep person,man.What great insight.I really don't know what ot say right now.Just give me a minute here.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 07:36
I call that very kind of you to say.Thats very touching,you could't have paid me a nicer compliment.Your a very deep person,man.What great insight.I really don't know what ot say right now.Just give me a minute here.

Take your time. I'll be here as long as you like. It is very intriguing talk with you.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 07:55
Thats rather nice of you to say.I am also enjoying our conversation,you are very insightfull.

I must apologize for the delay,my computer crashed.I hope your still there.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 07:59
Thats rather nice of you to say.I am also enjoying our conversation,you are very insightfull.

I must apologize for the delay,my computer crashed.I hope your still there.

I am still here.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 08:02
oh,wonderfull.I thought you might have left.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 08:03
oh,wonderfull.I thought you might have left.

Nope. Just here reading the threads and thinking about people.

What's up?
Alexias
02-10-2004, 08:05
I call that very kind of you to say.Thats very touching,you could't have paid me a nicer compliment.Your a very deep person,man.What great insight.I really don't know what ot say right now.Just give me a minute here.

man,your like,and overlooked philospher.Your deeper than the grand cannyon,man.wow.I can't reall think of all that much too say.Anything would just pale in comparison.What you can learn.......
Alexias
02-10-2004, 08:07
hmmm......I seem to have quoted myself by accident.Ah well,no matter.Sometimes I do that anyways,as I am so prolific.Hehe,just joking.Hey,were you live around?


I live in Ottawa,Canada.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 08:08
man,your like,and overlooked philospher.Your deeper than the grand cannyon,man.wow.I can't reall think of all that much too say.Anything would just pale in comparison.What you can learn.......


Come on...

I bet I haven't said one thing that you haven't felt at one point or another. You said yourself that you understand what you do, and long for the feelings of something else. That's human nature. You have professed regret over the pain of others, fear of your family being hurt, disdain for your profession, and you extoll the value of loyalty.

My guess is that you feel hopelessly trapped in your life, but don't believe there will ever be a way out. You like the power, but abhor the pain. That about right?

I'm not deeper than anyone else. I am only fairly adept at expressing what we all feel.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 08:10
Come on...

I bet I haven't said one thing that you haven't felt at one point or another. You said yourself that you understand what you do, and long for the feelings of something else. That's human nature. You have professed regret over the pain of others, fear of your family being hurt, disdain for your profession, and you extoll the value of loyalty.

My guess is that you feel hopelessly trapped in your life, but don't believe there will ever be a way out. You like the power, but abhor the pain. That about right?

I'm not deeper than anyone else. I am only fairly adept at expressing what we all feel.

AH!Holy shit,thats it exactly!Dead on!Amazing!
Alexias
02-10-2004, 08:11
I've just now realized the Irony of the blarring police sirens I've been hearing in the distance periodically throughout our conversation.Weird,is it not?
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 08:12
I've just now realized the Irony of the blarring police sirens I've been hearing in the distance periodically throughout our conversation.Weird,is it not?

Does seem rather ominous...
Alexias
02-10-2004, 08:13
AH!Holy shit,thats it exactly!Dead on!Amazing!

that is too say,with the power and abhoring and such.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 08:14
Something you might find interesting:

My father once told me that "you are only as good as the last choice you made".
Alexias
02-10-2004, 08:14
Does seem rather ominous...

Indeed it does...how odd.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 08:15
that is too say,with the power and abhoring and such.

I gathered.

Still - not amazing. I'm just listening.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 08:16
Something you might find interesting:

My father once told me that "you are only as good as the last choice you made".

that is quite interesting.If you think about it,it is true.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 08:19
I gathered.

Still - not amazing. I'm just listening.

well, Listening like will bring you far.Although I'm not sure how much farther you'd want to go.You already have a loving wife and son.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 08:21
well, Listening like will bring you far.Although I'm not sure how much farther you'd want to go.You already have a loving wife and son.

Actually, I have two sons. One is five, and the other is six months.

As far as "how far I want to go"...there's another piece of irony. I'm actually trying to decide what to do with the rest of my life (employment). I've known only the military in the last ten years. I'm getting out, and have no clue what I want to do next. Hard choices...
Alexias
02-10-2004, 08:21
Something you might find interesting:

My father once told me that "you are only as good as the last choice you made".

I find it rather tragic,that such a great piece of wisdom should be reduced too electronic text on a flickering screen.Just a thought.That should be in books.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 08:26
I find it rather tragic,that such a great piece of wisdom should be reduced too electronic text on a flickering screen.Just a thought.That should be in books.

Thank you. I truly appreciate that. My wife tells me I should be a writer...and I would love to do that...but you can't start out as a writer full time with a wife and two kids...I'm trying to do it part time, which means not very often....
Alexias
02-10-2004, 08:27
Actually, I have two sons. One is five, and the other is six months.

As far as "how far I want to go"...there's another piece of irony. I'm actually trying to decide what to do with the rest of my life (employment). I've known only the military in the last ten years. I'm getting out, and have no clue what I want to do next. Hard choices...

Two sons?No shit.Must be difficult,I can barley handle a handfull of children for a day.Indeed a hard choice,I'd imagine,although I'd have absolutly no Idea.I really cannot begin to comprehend how hard a decisision that would be.And its terrible that after givng so much of your life too the military that they would not give you a better deal.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 08:32
Thank you. I truly appreciate that. My wife tells me I should be a writer...and I would love to do that...but you can't start out as a writer full time with a wife and two kids...I'm trying to do it part time, which means not very often....

Hmm,another tragedy,that people such as yourself have so much wisdom and yet never get proper chance to record it.I always think of things that I would like to write down,but never end up doing it for lack of willpower.And whenever I do write,as hard as I try it most often turns out badly,hard too read and whatnot.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 08:32
Two sons?No shit.Must be difficult,I can barley handle a handfull of children for a day.Indeed a hard choice,I'd imagine,although I'd have absolutly no Idea.I really cannot begin to comprehend how hard a decisision that would be.And its terrible that after givng so much of your life too the military that they would not give you a better deal.


Oh, it's not that they won't give me a deal. I'm actually up for promotion, and could pretty much choose my assignment. The problem is this:

I'm tired of moving around. I don't want to bounce my children in and out of schools while I'm deployed somewhere for six months at a time in a place where phones are rare (been there, done that). I don't really care what I do, now, as long as I can come home every day, play with my children, and enjoy my love for my wife, and her love for me. I'd pump gas if it would pay the bills. I could make enough money in the military, but at what cost? I want to teach little league, go for walks with my wife, and enjoy life up to retirement. Career doesn't mean as much to me as it used to. I just want to live.

This is my second marriage. I'm not giving this one away to the army.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 08:33
Hmm,another tragedy,that people such as yourself have so much wisdom and yet never get proper chance to record it.I always think of things that I would like to write down,but never end up doing it for lack of willpower.And whenever I do write,as hard as I try it most often turns out badly,hard too read and whatnot.

Try this: Carry around a little pocket tape recorder and record your words as they come to you. Later, listen to the tape, remember your thoughts, and then take the time to polish the language.

However, if the writing is for yourself alone, it doesn't need to be pretty. It just needs to be you.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 08:40
Oh, it's not that they won't give me a deal. I'm actually up for promotion, and could pretty much choose my assignment. The problem is this:

I'm tired of moving around. I don't want to bounce my children in and out of schools while I'm deployed somewhere for six months at a time in a place where phones are rare (been there, done that). I don't really care what I do, now, as long as I can come home every day, play with my children, and enjoy my love for my wife, and her love for me. I'd pump gas if it would pay the bills. I could make enough money in the military, but at what cost? I want to teach little league, go for walks with my wife, and enjoy life up to retirement. Career doesn't mean as much to me as it used to. I just want to live.

This is my second marriage. I'm not giving this one away to the army.

That is a most good thing.How strong you must be,to give away such a carreer oportunity.And a good thing,too.
I suppose when one gets too have had as much experience as you,you learn whats truly important too you.That must be a very valuable thing to know.WHere do you plan to settle down?
Alexias
02-10-2004, 08:42
Try this: Carry around a little pocket tape recorder and record your words as they come to you. Later, listen to the tape, remember your thoughts, and then take the time to polish the language.

However, if the writing is for yourself alone, it doesn't need to be pretty. It just needs to be you.

theres an Idea.I should try those things.I think it would give me piece of mind,knowing I won't die without leaving my thoughts.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 08:43
That is a most good thing.How strong you must be,to give away such a carreer oportunity.And a good thing,too.
I suppose when one gets too have had as much experience as you,you learn whats truly important too you.That must be a very valuable thing to know.WHere do you plan to settle down?

East Coast, somewhere. Probably North Carolina. I'm in California, now, so it will be a nice opportunity to take the kids across country.

I'm only 30, so I have plenty of years left to make a living. I just need to decide which direction I want that living to be in.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 08:51
East Coast, somewhere. Probably North Carolina. I'm in California, now, so it will be a nice opportunity to take the kids across country.

I'm only 30, so I have plenty of years left to make a living. I just need to decide which direction I want that living to be in.

oh,yes,you have tons of time.Your younger than most responsible fathers these days,you know.East coast,yeah,lots of stuff their.You know,Someday maybe I should see the united states.Theres so much their.Of course,if I decided to travel anywhere,I would see Canada first.But so much in your country.Someday,I think I will see it.

I just realized that I'm not really talking about anything relevant to the conversation.Were was I?
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 08:54
oh,yes,you have tons of time.Your younger than most responsible fathers these days,you know.East coast,yeah,lots of stuff their.You know,Someday maybe I should see the united states.Theres so much their.Of course,if I decided to travel anywhere,I would see Canada first.But so much in your country.Someday,I think I will see it.

I just realized that I'm not really talking about anything relevant to the conversation.Were was I?

We are where we are.

I've been all over the world, and the country. What country are you from?
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 08:58
Originally, we were talking about the absence of my wife and the effect it has on me, my mood, my emotions, etc...

That and the fact that it sucks not to get laid every day... ;)
Alexias
02-10-2004, 09:01
All over the world?I assume you did this with the army?wow,seen the world...something I always had a fancy too do that,although I'm not sure I could work my way around the world like you did.

I am from Canada.And you,you are from the United States?
Alexias
02-10-2004, 09:04
Originally, we were talking about the absence of my wife and the effect it has on me, my mood, my emotions, etc...

That and the fact that it sucks not to get laid every day... ;)

yes.Notice how it took a large turn and now we are talking about things complete different.

Not to get laid aevery night?Haha,yes,you poor man.That must be terrible for you.

What is your wife doing anyway?
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 09:08
All over the world?I assume you did this with the army?wow,seen the world...something I always had a fancy too do that,although I'm not sure I could work my way around the world like you did.

I am from Canada.And you,you are from the United States?

Yes, from the U.S.

At last count, I've been to about 20 countries. All with the military. I've seen and done a ton of things. It's been fun. I wouldn't trade it for anything (my past).
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 09:12
Ironically, though...I've never been to Canada.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 09:15
Yes, from the U.S.

At last count, I've been to about 20 countries. All with the military. I've seen and done a ton of things. It's been fun. I wouldn't trade it for anything (my past).

shit.Seen the world,and I'm here under proabation.I should really get my act together if I would ever be too travel as much as you.

It's good you don't regret your past.I've know people who the mistakes of their past have haunted them too their death.Good to have no regrets.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 09:18
Ironically, though...I've never been to Canada.


hehe,well,It's not all that surprising.The Canadian goverment doesn't really consider letting american troops be stationed here,as far as I know.And most Americans have never been too Canada.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 09:22
hehe,well,It's not all that surprising.The Canadian goverment doesn't really consider letting american troops be stationed here,as far as I know.And most Americans have never been too Canada.

I've had a few chances to travel there, but it never worked out. Each time it was to Toronto. I wasn't to be stationed there, but it would've been there representing the government.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 09:30
Toronto?I can't imagine why they would station american troops in Toronto.Lot's of Canadian Troops,but not American.I cannot really see the training value of having troops in toronto....
Alexias
02-10-2004, 09:32
well man,I'm gonna pack it in,ok?It was great too meet you,I really had a great time.It was so nice too talk too you.But hey,how about we keep this thread around,and keep in touch,k?Well,I see you around,keep in touch,great too meet you,my man.Goodnight.
Keljamistan
02-10-2004, 09:34
Toronto?I can't imagine why they would station american troops in Toronto.Lot's of Canadian Troops,but not American.I cannot really see the training value of having troops in toronto....


I wouldn't have been in a uniform. It would have been in a suit and tie.

Goodnight, my friend. Be safe.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 13:11
I wouldn't have been in a uniform. It would have been in a suit and tie.

Goodnight, my friend. Be safe.

a suit?doing what?

Yah,you too man.
Alexias
02-10-2004, 13:17
Keep in touch,eh?