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Ladies and Gentleman: The BEATLES!!

IDF
02-10-2004, 00:17
Let's discuss what is the greatest music group of all time. Now some of you may argue other groups of the time like The Doors were better. While The Doors and groups like them were good, they were not the Beatles.

Now let's discuss this amazing band. They are better than any of the crap we have today where you have a computer doing most of the work for "singers" who can't play an instrument like the drums or guitar and have computers changing average voices so they sound good. I mean, if Jessica Simpson or Britney Spears weren't hot, no one would listen to their shit.

The Beatles were unique in that they wrote most of their own songs. During the 1960's the records released would have originals on the A side tracks while the B side tracks would be covers of other groups' songs. The Beatles did very few cover songs and some ot their most famous songs were B tracks. "Yesterday" and "It's Only Love" were B tracks on "Help."

The Beatles' set the record for most number 1 hits during their 7 years on the World spotlight (they were around since the 50's, but didn't really get noticed until 1963.)

What is more interesting is the transition of songs. If you listen to early songs like "She Loves You," "I Want to Hold Your Hand," and "Please Please me," you will hear different themes from later songs like "Hey Jude," "Let it Be," and other later tunes. If you have the Beatle's anthology you can see the transition where they are in their later years of their early themes with songs like "Yesterday" and "Norwegian Wood." You see that the transition albums are in 1965. You have "Rubber Soul" and "Help" released within a few months of each other. "Revolver's" release in 1966 marks the beginning of later themes and the abandonment of earlier love themes.

This transition can be attributed to both more maturity and unfortunatley druges. (Revolver had heavy drug influences as admitted to in interviews.)

"Sgt. Pepper", released in 1967, was showed the complete change in the Beatles. This album is the most successful in the history of record and CD sales. The theme's of "Sgt. Pepper" were nothing like earlier ones. It was very well done and although there are rumors that track 3 song "Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds" was about LSD, it appears it wasn't. The Beatles were very open about their drug use and although there are rumors about this one, all members say they are untrue. In fact, it is based on a picture drawn by John Lennon's son Julian. (that picture is still in existance).

Other songs on the album include "With a Little Help from my Friends," "Mr. Kite," and "Lovely Rita." The Beatles continued the Sgt. Pepper themes in "Magical Mystery Tour." This album was noted with "Strawberry Fields" and "Penny Lane." These albums were improvements over previous ones as they had more time to work on them since they had stopped touring.

"The Beatles", better known as the "White Album" was heavily drug influenced. It did have some good music though with "Back in the USSR," "Yellow Submarine," and "Blackbird."

The Beatle's masterpiece was released 1 month after they broke up. "Let it Be" is one of the most recognizable songs ever as is another late song, "Hey Jude."
Roachsylvania
02-10-2004, 00:21
I don't know about best band ever, but they've certainly secured their place in the annals of history. Personally, I like their later music better, but it's all good, and, like you said, a hell of a lot better than most of the crap being put out today. You say Yesterday was a cover? Who originally wrote it?
Klonor
02-10-2004, 00:22
Wow.....just......wow.

I have found my soul mate! Will you marry me? Wait, are you female? It doesn't matter! You love the Beatles! Let's run way together!

Okay, seriously, the Beatles do rock. For more than a decade the only CD I owned was 'Help' and they were the only band that I'd play. I have since branched out (The Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, the Doors, Mammas and the Pappas, etc.) but none compare.

All Hail The Beatles!
Klonor
02-10-2004, 00:23
I don't know about best band ever, but they've certainly secured their place in the annals of history. Personally, I like their later music better, but it's all good, and, like you said, a hell of a lot better than most of the crap being put out today. You say Yesterday was a cover? Who originally wrote it?

It wasn't a cover, it's an original Beatles song. But it was a song on the B side of an album (Where other bands would usually put covers or junk to just take up space)
War Child
02-10-2004, 00:28
I severly dislike the beatles and only give them respect because they were the first pop band.

Didnt eric clapton write a good amount of there songs?....or was that someone else....just nm that comment.
Roachsylvania
02-10-2004, 00:30
It wasn't a cover, it's an original Beatles song. But it was a song on the B side of an album (Where other bands would usually put covers or junk to just take up space)
Oh, I see. I thought he meant The Beatles put covers of other bands' songs on the B side. Thanks for clarifying.
Klonor
02-10-2004, 00:32
No prob
Kramers Intern
02-10-2004, 00:39
Let's discuss what is the greatest music group of all time. Now some of you may argue other groups of the time like The Doors were better. While The Doors and groups like them were good, they were not the Beatles.

Now let's discuss this amazing band. They are better than any of the crap we have today where you have a computer doing most of the work for "singers" who can't play an instrument like the drums or guitar and have computers changing average voices so they sound good. I mean, if Jessica Simpson or Britney Spears weren't hot, no one would listen to their shit.

The Beatles were unique in that they wrote most of their own songs. During the 1960's the records released would have originals on the A side tracks while the B side tracks would be covers of other groups' songs. The Beatles did very few cover songs and some ot their most famous songs were B tracks. "Yesterday" and "It's Only Love" were B tracks on "Help."

The Beatles' set the record for most number 1 hits during their 7 years on the World spotlight (they were around since the 50's, but didn't really get noticed until 1963.)

What is more interesting is the transition of songs. If you listen to early songs like "She Loves You," "I Want to Hold Your Hand," and "Please Please me," you will hear different themes from later songs like "Hey Jude," "Let it Be," and other later tunes. If you have the Beatle's anthology you can see the transition where they are in their later years of their early themes with songs like "Yesterday" and "Norwegian Wood." You see that the transition albums are in 1965. You have "Rubber Soul" and "Help" released within a few months of each other. "Revolver's" release in 1966 marks the beginning of later themes and the abandonment of earlier love themes.

This transition can be attributed to both more maturity and unfortunatley druges. (Revolver had heavy drug influences as admitted to in interviews.)

"Sgt. Pepper", released in 1967, was showed the complete change in the Beatles. This album is the most successful in the history of record and CD sales. The theme's of "Sgt. Pepper" were nothing like earlier ones. It was very well done and although there are rumors that track 3 song "Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds" was about LSD, it appears it wasn't. The Beatles were very open about their drug use and although there are rumors about this one, all members say they are untrue. In fact, it is based on a picture drawn by John Lennon's son Julian. (that picture is still in existance).

Other songs on the album include "With a Little Help from my Friends," "Mr. Kite," and "Lovely Rita." The Beatles continued the Sgt. Pepper themes in "Magical Mystery Tour." This album was noted with "Strawberry Fields" and "Penny Lane." These albums were improvements over previous ones as they had more time to work on them since they had stopped touring.

"The Beatles", better known as the "White Album" was heavily drug influenced. It did have some good music though with "Back in the USSR," "Yellow Submarine," and "Blackbird."

The Beatle's masterpiece was released 1 month after they broke up. "Let it Be" is one of the most recognizable songs ever as is another late song, "Hey Jude."

YES!!! The Beatles Rule! My favorite is the white album.
IDF
02-10-2004, 00:52
I don't know about best band ever, but they've certainly secured their place in the annals of history. Personally, I like their later music better, but it's all good, and, like you said, a hell of a lot better than most of the crap being put out today. You say Yesterday was a cover? Who originally wrote it?
No Yesterday was't a cover. Most bands had B side covers, but the Beatles didn't. Most B side tunes including Yesterday were written by Lennon and McCartney.

Paul McCartney wrote Yesterday on his own, despite the fact it will say Lennon/McCartney on the CD, that was due to his contract even though it was one of the few songs written by only one member and performed by only 1 member (although early studio versions have Ringo on the drums)
Bodies Without Organs
02-10-2004, 00:53
They are better than any of the crap we have today where you have a computer doing most of the work for "singers" who can't play an instrument like the drums or guitar and have computers changing average voices so they sound good.

Using drums as an example of musical competence with respect to the Beatles is a bad idea: quite frankly Ringo Starr was just on the good side of lousy as far as drumming goes. In an interview Lennon was aked if Ringo Starr was the best drummer in the world - his answer was famously "he's not even the best drummer in the Beatles".
IDF
02-10-2004, 01:12
Using drums as an example of musical competence with respect to the Beatles is a bad idea: quite frankly Ringo Starr was just on the good side of lousy as far as drumming goes. In an interview Lennon was aked if Ringo Starr was the best drummer in the world - his answer was famously "he's not even the best drummer in the Beatles".
I'll agree Ringo wasn't a great drummer, but the Beatles' guitarists were amazing. Especially George Harrison
Klonor
02-10-2004, 02:39
Hey, they just needed somebody to fill in for Pete Best.

Oh, quick trivia question, why was Pete fired?

For those who don't know, Pete Best was the original drummer in the Beatles and was kicked out a tiny bit before they hit it big. After Pete went 'bye-bye' they brought in Richard Starkey (to use Ringo's real name)
The Reformed North
05-10-2004, 23:22
Because Pete sucked

Anyways I love the beatles, they are my favourite band. My favourite CD of theirs is the White Album.

You made a mistake. "Yellow Submarine" is not on the White Album.