NationStates Jolt Archive


Imagine you are facing death row, what do you choose?

Faithfull-freedom
01-10-2004, 23:39
Option two wont fit in poll.

A Judge says you will die for you're country and a painfull death will incur. You have no clue what or how you will die. Who knows they may make you a test monkey for the next weaponized blood agent (or worse). All the while the judge and DA sit behind a safely sealed room laughing their ass off at you.

Which would you choose and why?
Kleptonis
01-10-2004, 23:42
I choose blowing myself up by lighting a fart on fire too close to me, and take out everyone nearby. :D
Colodia
01-10-2004, 23:46
I'll take "Old Movies" for $500, Bob
Roachsylvania
01-10-2004, 23:49
Hmmmm... a nice filet mignon, and a bottle of Dom. Oh, how I'd die? Taking as many of the bastards out with me as possible!
Letila
01-10-2004, 23:50
The first one. I don't want the US to benefit from killing me.
Ravea
02-10-2004, 00:03
I would rather be used as a weapon then just die needlessly.

*Arrrr! Kill em All!*
Faithfull-freedom
02-10-2004, 00:16
I would take the second option just to hope one day it gets out that maybe the people that take that option were innocent.
Keruvalia
02-10-2004, 00:43
judge says you will die for you're country but certain death will incur. You have no clue what that may be, who knows may contend being a testy on the next weapon all the while the judge and DA laugh at you.


I hope I hope I hope I'd get to hijack a plane and fly it into a large building for my country. That would be sweet.
Kramers Intern
02-10-2004, 00:46
Lethal injection, that way while the before the poison is in my heart, I can think that I am about to die, and even if the government calls and excuses me, I will still die, so Im screwed, and I can get on with the rest of my life (thinking for a minute and a half about great memories.
Tuesday Heights
02-10-2004, 01:32
Can you re-explain your initial post in a better way? I can't even comprehend what you're trying to ask... :confused:
Faithfull-freedom
02-10-2004, 03:24
Biography:
I'm a real world elitist is the non-elitist kinda way.

Can you re-explain your initial biography in a better way? I can't even comprehend what you're trying to say... :)

j/k Thanks for letting me know about the need in clarification. Sometimes I try to figure out what my brain is trying to say. The times that I don't attempt to figure it out, I get that mess you were complaining about! lol
UltimateEnd
02-10-2004, 04:09
The second option is against the No Cruel and Unusual Punishment Amendment, so its rather pointless, to even debate about it
Faithfull-freedom
02-10-2004, 04:20
The second option is against the No Cruel and Unusual Punishment Amendment, so its rather pointless, to even debate about it

I agree, next time i'll choose between the fiction and non fiction option before posting. Trust me I know exactly what you are getting at. :) I will never be humbled enough, I love it to much!
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
02-10-2004, 04:32
This poll is nominated for worst options ever.

With over a billion ways to kill somebody, why limit the options to only two?

I would choose something where I could at least see my end coming.
Faithfull-freedom
02-10-2004, 05:06
This poll is nominated for worst options ever.
With over a billion ways to kill somebody, why limit the options to only two?
I would choose something where I could at least see my end coming.

Yes! I would rather be known as worst ever than best at nothing. :rolleyes:

That was the point that you are allowed this one extra option. By not knowing your final fate makes it a little less enticing. Besides why would anyone give up the comfort of a few drugs and feel nothing over something much worse. I think only a few people in here obviously can see what I am getting at. It is Jesus and his story told during the final stage in a more modern setting. By choosing to die for something much greater yet knowing the pain will bear so much more upon you. You sacrifice for the good of the future and a faith that fellow man would see that only an innocent man would give so much to something that gave him so little. Sacrifice
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
02-10-2004, 05:12
Yes! I would rather be known as worst ever than best at nothing. :rolleyes:

That was the point that you are allowed this one extra option. By not knowing your final fate makes it a little less enticing. Besides why would anyone give up the comfort of a few drugs and feel nothing over something much worse. I think only a few people in here obviously can see what I am getting at. It is Jesus and his story told during the final stage in a more modern setting. By choosing to die for something much greater yet knowing the pain will bear so much more upon you. You sacrifice for the good of the future and a faith that fellow man would see that only an innocent man would give so much to something that gave him so little. Sacrifice
Jesus, where in the hell did Jesus come from in this topic?
What does he have to do with this?
:confused:
Faithfull-freedom
02-10-2004, 05:20
I am saying that if a system such as that was in place and someone actualy took that option. I think I would be against the death penalty after that day.

I am trying to find senarios that would reverse my thoughts on certain big issues of today. Whats wrong with being a little subjective?
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
02-10-2004, 05:24
Bah, so long as I know I’m about to die, I don’t care how it happens. If they put me to sleep beforehand I only know that I’m about to go to sleep. I want to feel the life drain out of me when I die.
Pyta
02-10-2004, 05:31
I never plan on being in an instance where I would actually get to the conviction bit. I figure a hail of gunfire
Faithfull-freedom
02-10-2004, 05:32
Bah, so long as I know I’m about to die, I don’t care how it happens. If they put me to sleep beforehand I only know that I’m about to go to sleep. I want to feel the life drain out of me when I die.

Yea but would you want everyone to think you died for the country that kills you? No resentment? No anger and angst to be sure they don't get the last laugh? I would think this is a normal reaction for people, no?
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
02-10-2004, 05:39
Yea but would you want everyone to think you died for the country that kills you? No resentment? No anger and angst to be sure they don't get the last laugh? I would think this is a normal reaction for people, no?
Oh, there are ways to get the last laugh. But why would anybody think that I died for any country?
Texas and Colorado
02-10-2004, 05:40
if it was to help the U.S I would take the second choice.
Faithfull-freedom
02-10-2004, 05:45
Oh, there are ways to get the last laugh. But why would anybody think that I died for any country?

The first sentence of the second option.
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
02-10-2004, 05:56
Because a judge said so?
:confused:
New Exodus
02-10-2004, 06:04
I see what you were getting at in this post, but I should mention that, as many people on this forum don't necessarily like their nations, and/or have an unhealthy obsession with living (j/k), perhaps you should rethink the question.

Personally, I'd ask the judge to pardon me right before I die, and let the world know that I sacrificed my life for my country. Just don't tell them I cried and whined at the end. (also j/k)
Faithfull-freedom
02-10-2004, 08:06
I guess what I am ultimatly getting at is this, imagine the first option as being a person dying of old age and in their sleep. Since we all die some day.

While the second option is a person that volunteered for the more likely painfull ending yet for something much greater than themselves.

Its good we try to understand what drives a person to give up so much to something that gives them so little. But hard to really understand, without ever knowing the meaning of sacrifice.

We ask any service member and I bet they could give us a few examples on Sacrifice.

Heck lets just look at the fact that they sacrifice freedom of speech when they enter into service. Something many of us hold dear and could not imagine giving up. Yet they choose to put on hold that very freedom of expression so some punk can call them a baby killer. They would happily die for all of us just so we could have any right to exercise.
Jumbania
02-10-2004, 19:17
2) Why test products on innocent animals when we have millions of non-innocent criminals?
Sydenia
02-10-2004, 19:32
I guess what I am ultimatly getting at is this, imagine the first option as being a person dying of old age and in their sleep. Since we all die some day.

While the second option is a person that volunteered for the more likely painfull ending yet for something much greater than themselves.

Its good we try to understand what drives a person to give up so much to something that gives them so little. But hard to really understand, without ever knowing the meaning of sacrifice.

We ask any service member and I bet they could give us a few examples on Sacrifice.

Heck lets just look at the fact that they sacrifice freedom of speech when they enter into service. Something many of us hold dear and could not imagine giving up. Yet they choose to put on hold that very freedom of expression so some punk can use it to call them a baby killer. They would happily die for all of us so we could continue to have that right to exercise. How ironic the world works when you have no understanding of sacrifice.

I'm assuming if they are being called baby killers they killed babies; how does that protect my right to free speech? Honestly, wars aren't always about protecting your nation and they don't always aid the greater good. Sacrifice doesn't always accomplish something, and it isn't always noble.

In any event. I wouldn't bother answering them. Let them pick whatever they please. If they pick the second, I simply don't help them. Not a difficult choice.
Violets and Kitties
03-10-2004, 13:15
Yes! I would rather be known as worst ever than best at nothing. :rolleyes:

That was the point that you are allowed this one extra option. By not knowing your final fate makes it a little less enticing. Besides why would anyone give up the comfort of a few drugs and feel nothing over something much worse. I think only a few people in here obviously can see what I am getting at. It is Jesus and his story told during the final stage in a more modern setting. By choosing to die for something much greater yet knowing the pain will bear so much more upon you. You sacrifice for the good of the future and a faith that fellow man would see that only an innocent man would give so much to something that gave him so little. Sacrifice

Whether real or fictional, Jesus had the advantage of knowing that his sacrifice was for something he considered good and right.

Many things have been done by many countries that were called "for the good of the country" that were neither good nor right.

There is a huge difference between making a sacrifice for what one truly feels is for the greater good and allowing oneself to be used as a pawn for unknown purposes.
Tropical Montana
03-10-2004, 14:36
In Montana a person convicted of a capital crime is given a choice:

*lethal injection

*hanging

In the case of hanging, there is a chart indicating how long the rope must be to break the convict's neck (200 lbs = 6 ft of rope; 120 lbs = 10 ft of rope) so that the death is instant--no dangling and choking involved.

This is sort of the same choice. Do you choose a private death behind closed doors, or a public death that might deter others from committing the crime you committed?

My answer: If i were a criminal of the type that would deserve the death penalty, i very much doubt that my twisted mind would give a cr*p what good my choice of death did for society.

As for Jesus...If he accepted his fate as the path the Creator chose for him, then that is noble. If he chose to go to death to become a martyr and start a religion that would eventually kill millions of people in its name, then he is no better than the suicide bombers.