NationStates Jolt Archive

*this is an all out war against dissent in the media by the Orwellian Bush administration


Yesterday morning at 9:20 in Santa Cruz, California, two dozen armed federal agents with automatic weapons and riot gear raided pirate radio station Radio Free Santa Cruz. The station had just finished airing its regular broadcast of Democracy Now! when the agents arrived on the scene. Moments after the initial raid, 5 agents from the Federal Communications Commission arrived on the scene.
They located the transmitter and seized all of the station's broadcast equipment, including the antenna. More than 50 local residents showed up on the scene to protest the shut-down of the independent radio station. Free Radio Santa Cruz has been on the air, operating without a license for nearly 10 years and has never been raided before yesterday. Despite its unlicensed status, the station recently won a resolution of support from the Santa Cruz City Council.


JUAN GONZALEZ: So, I guess that resolution from the Santa Cruz City Council was the kiss of death in terms of --

GEORGE CADMAN: Well, actually, we have had two resolutions from the City Council in support of us, one which came many years ago, so I don't think that had anything to do with it, actually. About 100 people showed up to support us. There was about 15 U.S. Marshals and five F.C.C. Agents, roughly, that combed the property. I was present when they arrived. Did you want to hear what happened?

JUAN GONZALEZ: Yes, please.

GEORGE CADMAN: Okay. Well, I was in the station. I came in to do the usual Wednesday morning programming. I put on the alternative news program, Truthout Overview, Independent Native News, Worker's Independent News Service, and Democracy Now! is on at 8:00. I believe Democracy Now! played through. The next show, Alternative Radio is the one that got cut off. It was Howard Zinn. I put on the morning programming, I left the station, and I was walking to around the corner, and Democracy Now! was on the air. I saw a number of unmarked kind of cop cars, undercover cop cars, and I became nervous. I wasn't sure right away what it was, because it was around the corner, but as I was leaving, I saw them swarm the house. There was a bunch of riot -- marshals, U.S. Marshals in riot gear that marched up to the property. At that point, I really didn't have any choice but to get to a phone and call as many as I could. So, I rushed to the closest pay phone and called as many people as I could to come down. And of course, you know, they also got on the phone and began calling people. Then I went back to the station. And when that had occurred. By the time I got back there. They had gotten everyone out of the house. Many of them had their guns drawn--I learned later from some of the tenants. They had them lined up outside, whether they were in their underwear or a bathrobe. And some of them were pretty shaken up by it, because they didn't -- some of them were not fully aware that we were operating there because there's a high turnover in the house. And they were very supportive, though, and basically said very positive things regardless of the situation, although they felt very upset they had not been shown a warrant yet. 20 minutes went by before they were even shown a warrant. Then they were allowed to glance at one, not even read it. Also, they weren't allowed in --

AMY GOODMAN: George, let me bring in Vinny -- let me bring in Vinny Lombardo, who was in the house at the time that the F.C.C. Raided and shut down Free Radio Santa Cruz. Vinny, describe what happened.

VINNY LOMBARDO: I wasn't in the house. Actually, I showed up a few -- like a half hour after the F.C.C. Raid was already in progress. I formerly lived with Free Radio Santa Cruz for a number of years but we moved. In May, we relocated to a new spot, a new spot in Santa Cruz and also a new spot on the dial, primarily to avoid interference complaints that had been lodged against our station. But what happened this morning. I mean, the agents -- George pretty much described it. The agents came in. They kind of secured the property, kept the people that had gathered on the streets sort of away from the edges of the property. No arrests were made. They confiscated all of our equipment, including antenna, transmitter, mixing board, 200 feet of coaxial cable, three CD players, a computer, a flat screen monitor, a Gentner phone box. The agents loaded up their vehicle and tried to drive away. And they were unable to drive away, because somebody in the crowd -- I don't know who, somebody slashed the tires on the vehicle, and on a number of other vehicles as well around the area, a number of the marshals' vehicles that had been parked on the side streets. So, they had quite a difficult time getting away. It just -- you know, they had to basically listen to the community, the people that are losing their community voice. This outlet that we had for ten years in Santa Cruz to be able to communicate with each other, share ideas, talk about politics and things that are just not being talked about in mainstream news and corporate controlled media. And these people were really upset to see their free speech, their voice taken away. So, these agents -- you know, got to hear that for a few more hours while they tried to repair their tires. But that was -- that is pretty much what happened.

AMY GOODMAN: So, what are you going to do now, Vinny?

VINNY LOMBARDO: The collective at this point -- Free Radio is a collective group, and at this point we're still reviewing our options that are before us. Of course, we want to get back to serving our community and get back to our regular programming schedule. So, we're going to use what we have to at our hands now. We have a web stream going at freakradio.org where people can tune in on our webstream and listen to the station at least temporarily. We'll be doing that until we review other options, and see what we can do about getting back on the air. That remains to be seen. How soon we can do that, so it's kind of -- things are still being decided as we speak. We're going to have another meeting to discuss our options further. Over the next couple of days.

JUAN GONZALEZ: Has there been any reaction from the City Council that has twice before passed resolutions in support of the station?

GEORGE CADMAN: Mayor Scott Kennedy came down to support us and he spoke to the media. And he basically said these are resources wasted right now in this time of -- supposed orange alerts and war and all of that. He also said that he feels like this was against what the majority of Santa Cruz wanted. We have a lot of support, and I want to emphasize how much support we have. We have had voicemail donated to us, equipment already, we have had money donated already. We had someone donate silkscreen printed t-shirts they made and lots of supportive phone calls, even from other radio stations. Other stations came through for us at this time. Five other stations announced on the air that we were being raided and gave out the address. It brought down a lot of supporters who are the ones that are missing out now. The listeners who came down here to show their support and were very articulate about why they value and rely on the station. Many of them were talking to the Marshals and F.C.C. Agents and were passionate about what we provide to them. I want to focus back -- you know I just wanted to focus back on why we do what we do. I don't know if the City Council is going to come out with a resolution or not. But the Mayor was there. There was a couple of City Council people that are running for City Council that were there. It shows you the level of support that we have, that the City Council feels, you know, that it's important for them to show up for these things. I kind of want to make --

AMY GOODMAN: we also want to just point out that this follows what happened in Knoxville, Tennessee, with the F.C.C. moving in on, raiding KFAR. Ironically enough, KFAR stands for First Amendment Radio. So, this is the second raid in just about one or two weeks.

GEORGE CADMAN: Yeah. That was about --

AMY GOODMAN: I want to thank you for being with us. Do you have a website that people can go to to get more information?

GEORGE CADMAN: Yes. It's www.freakradio.org. That's freak -- freakradio.org.
www.freakradio.org

For the love of all that's holy, TRA, did you actually use something not from democracynow?

For the love of all that's holy, TRA, did you actually use something not from democracynow?
correct-I used freakradio

In other news, Colodia was sworn into office today, being the ONLY 14 yr old President in American history. Hell, Western history for that matter. He followed his swearing in by declaring war on Vatician City and then finishing the day off by jumping in a barel full of monkies watching "Joey"

and they needed armed federal agents for what exactly? :confused:

seems a bit extreem to me. maybe they took the "pirate" idea a bit too seriously.

well so sorry for the broadcasters. how much does a broadcasting license cost anyway?

also... why do we need licenses to broadcast?

In other news, Colodia was sworn into office today, being the ONLY 14 yr old President in American history. Hell, Western history for that matter. He followed his swearing in by declaring war on Vatician City and then finishing the day off by jumping in a barel full of monkies watching "Joey"
if you jump into a barrel of monkeys you will almost certainly get the absolute living hell bitten out of you, and you'll have no one to blame but yourself.

You need a license because air ways are public property, and as such decency laws and other regulations guide them and a license is simply an agreement to abide by these standards, and so the FCC knows to keep track of you and what you say so you don't swear or have people having sex over public airwaves or something like that.

As for the act itself: Whats your point? An illegal radio station was busted. They'd been operating for a while. So what? The City Council liked them. So what? Shouldn't it have been easier to get a license then?

A bunch of broke ass moochers leaching off the airwaves got busted and you're saying its someow an invasion of what right exactly? Our right to steal airtime whenever we want?

In other news, Colodia was sworn into office today, being the ONLY 14 yr old President in American history. Hell, Western history for that matter. He followed his swearing in by declaring war on Vatician City and then finishing the day off by jumping in a barel full of monkies watching "Joey"
Im sure your smarter then Bush--you certainly couldnt do a worse job then him either

and they needed armed federal agents for what exactly? :confused:

seems a bit extreem to me. maybe they took the "pirate" idea a bit too seriously.

well so sorry for the broadcasters. how much does a broadcasting license cost anyway?

also... why do we need licenses to broadcast?
because according to the Bush administration any kind of dissent of his policies is considered terrorism-and your right, the airwaves belongs to the people not to corporations

You need a license because air ways are public property, and as such decency laws and other regulations guide them and a license is simply an agreement to abide by these standards, and so the FCC knows to keep track of you and what you say so you don't swear or have people having sex over public airwaves or something like that.

As for the act itself: Whats your point? An illegal radio station was busted. They'd been operating for a while. So what? The City Council liked them. So what? Shouldn't it have been easier to get a license then?

A bunch of broke ass moochers leaching off the airwaves got busted and you're saying its someow an invasion of what right exactly? Our right to steal airtime whenever we want?
no we need to fight the corporate facism in our media and get the voices of real people on the air

no we need to fight the corporate facism in our media and get the voices of real people on the air

Also we have to fight governmental suppression against people telling alternative truths. What other reason else than intimidation can you see for 15 riot-cops with submachine guns raiding a small radio station ?

Yay democracy in action.

I missed you MKULTRA! :)

You need a license because air ways are public property, and as such decency laws and other regulations guide them and a license is simply an agreement to abide by these standards, and so the FCC knows to keep track of you and what you say so you don't swear or have people having sex over public airwaves or something like that.

As for the act itself: Whats your point? An illegal radio station was busted. They'd been operating for a while. So what? The City Council liked them. So what? Shouldn't it have been easier to get a license then?

A bunch of broke ass moochers leaching off the airwaves got busted and you're saying its someow an invasion of what right exactly? Our right to steal airtime whenever we want?

WHo the hell are the F.C.C. to decide what's 'decent'? They don't even represent the public! They are appointed, not elected. They have no attachment to the will of the people at all. I fart on their licenses!

And who is to decide what can and can't be said in a public forum? It is, afterall, a public forum.

I'm interested especially in your term, "leaching off the airwaves." What exactly were they leaching? They were contributing! As for the city council liking them, that speaks volumes to me. See, there's a little bitty thing on radios called a 'dial'. It lets you... :eek: *gasp!* Change the station! Which means that nobody was listening to this station that didn't want to! What the FCC has yet again decided for us is that we were incapable of deciding for ourselves. Well, that bothers me. Doesn't it bother you?

What's Democracy Now ?

If I were president, all of you would be dead.

If I were president, all of you would be dead.
Well good for the world and the US that you are not :)

Time is on my side.

Time is on my side.
Maybe so. Your IQ is not.

Like that can stop Us.

if you jump into a barrel of monkeys you will almost certainly get the absolute living hell bitten out of you, and you'll have no one to blame but yourself.

Not if its the childrens game he might get caught in their tales!

Yah spill some heathen blood

You need a license because air ways are public property, and as such decency laws and other regulations guide them and a license is simply an agreement to abide by these standards, and so the FCC knows to keep track of you and what you say so you don't swear or have people having sex over public airwaves or something like that.

As for the act itself: Whats your point? An illegal radio station was busted. They'd been operating for a while. So what? The City Council liked them. So what? Shouldn't it have been easier to get a license then?

A bunch of broke ass moochers leaching off the airwaves got busted and you're saying its someow an invasion of what right exactly? Our right to steal airtime whenever we want?

I don't know how you handle such things in the US, but in germany such a license would cost about 500k EUR, so... it's not really easier to get a licence for that stuff...

What's Democracy Now? I don't know, and I want to know.

What's Democracy Now? I don't know, and I want to know.

Then why did you ask?

What's Democracy Now? I don't know, and I want to know.

Then why did you ask?

can you read? i asked because i don't know, and i want to know.

If I were president, all of you would be dead.

Ah, so basically you have the same platform as George Bush.

An armed society is a polite society.

can you read? i asked because i don't know, and i want to know.

Damn this dyslexia. I read it as "I don't know, and I don't want to know".

Damn this dyslexia. I read it as "I don't know, and I don't want to know".

Can't blame you for being dyslexic. I can mock and despise you for it, but I can't blame you.

Can't blame you for being dyslexic. I can mock and despise you for it, but I can't blame you.

I understand the mocking the why the despising?

I understand the mocking the why the despising?

I don't know. Makes me feel big and important i suppose.

I don't know. Makes me feel big and important i suppose.

Well then...no free t-shirt for you. You'll miss out on the purple, black and beige REFUSED PARTY PROGRAM t-shirts that all the cool NS'ers will be wearing. These are the official colours of the revolution. I can feel your envy from here.

Maybe so. Your IQ is not.

If you insult someone, please try to make it better. That was absolute rubbish. How can your IQ not be on your side? Does it lend itself to others? Does your IQ hate you? ;)

An armed society is a polite society.

Yes, witness the genteel delicacy of social interaction in south central LA.

I'd really like to know what democracy now is, what's a democracy now broadcast, etc.

Is it really fair to put a nationstates game happening(the busted radio station) in this post so it will seem like a real life event to people too lazy to look? This is ridiculous. I have wondered where most of the people on these forums get their news, just realized most of them make their own up.

and they needed armed federal agents for what exactly? :confused:

seems a bit extreem to me. maybe they took the "pirate" idea a bit too seriously.


The government always tries to use overwhelming force. It helps ensure compliance. If only 2 guys in suits with no guns showed up, the station operators might've resisted.


well so sorry for the broadcasters. how much does a broadcasting license cost anyway?

also... why do we need licenses to broadcast?

Licenses are damn expensive. You need them because when you boadcast without them men with badges and guns show up and take your stuff. For some reason at some point during the last century the federal government decided it was in charge of deciding who gets to broadcast, even at frequencies that don't normally cross state lines, and even though the government is granted no such power in the Constitution.

The radio broadcast spectrum is limited, and it's necessary to ensure broadcasters don't over-run each other. However, there's no good reason this ought to be controlled at the federal level. Obviously if a locality has no problem with a "pirate" radio station, there's no need to "do something" about it. This is just another case of federal dick waving.

because according to the Bush administration any kind of dissent of his policies is considered terrorism-and your right, the airwaves belongs to the people not to corporations

You really are quite insane.

You need a license because air ways are public property, and as such decency laws and other regulations guide them and a license is simply an agreement to abide by these standards, and so the FCC knows to keep track of you and what you say so you don't swear or have people having sex over public airwaves or something like that.

As for the act itself: Whats your point? An illegal radio station was busted. They'd been operating for a while. So what? The City Council liked them. So what? Shouldn't it have been easier to get a license then?

A bunch of broke ass moochers leaching off the airwaves got busted and you're saying its someow an invasion of what right exactly? Our right to steal airtime whenever we want?

The content of radio broadcasts is not a legitimate concern of the government's.

And if the city council likes them, I highly doubt they were stepping on someone else's radio turf.

The government always tries to use overwhelming force. It helps ensure compliance. If only 2 guys in suits with no guns showed up, the station operators might've resisted.



Licenses are damn expensive. You need them because when you boadcast without them men with badges and guns show up and take your stuff. For some reason at some point during the last century the federal government decided it was in charge of deciding who gets to broadcast, even at frequencies that don't normally cross state lines, and even though the government is granted no such power in the Constitution.

The radio broadcast spectrum is limited, and it's necessary to ensure broadcasters don't over-run each other. However, there's no good reason this ought to be controlled at the federal level. Obviously if a locality has no problem with a "pirate" radio station, there's no need to "do something" about it. This is just another case of federal dick waving.

This did NOT actually happen people..The original post was full of factual inaccuracies so was either a nationstates roleplay?I guess??or just a lie.

and they needed armed federal agents for what exactly? :confused:

seems a bit extreem to me. maybe they took the "pirate" idea a bit too seriously.

well so sorry for the broadcasters. how much does a broadcasting license cost anyway?

also... why do we need licenses to broadcast?

OK, just so you realized the federal government is REALLY big on overkill. For example, let us remember to the pre-9/11 days of 2000 and that damn cute little cuban kid, Elian Gonzalez. I really don't think that little Eli was packing Uzis, yet they sent in fully body armored, MP-5 armed agents to drag out a kid, so, don't just think this is fascism, it's just inefficiency.

And broadcasting licenses are required because of airwave pollution. Too many radio stations clog up the airwaves and actually cause potential danger to people like pilot, or they could cause annoyance to the common man by broadcasting on cordless phone frequencies. There are many reasons. Once again, it isn't fascism, it is just government best wishes.

and they needed armed federal agents for what exactly? :confused:

seems a bit extreem to me. maybe they took the "pirate" idea a bit too seriously.

well so sorry for the broadcasters. how much does a broadcasting license cost anyway?

also... why do we need licenses to broadcast?
armed federal agents are needed becouse some one in the station may have taken advantage of thier 2nd amednment right to bare arms and try to do somthing like shoot some FCC people

I unconditionally support pirates of all varieties.

Well, while I've only read the first few posts, I come away with one thing. The government cracked down on an illegal radio broadcast. While they may have gone overboard in their tactics, they still were upholding the law. While one may disagree with the law, they shouldn't be upset with the government for upholding it.

If one wants to disagree with the tactics, that's fine. If one thinks the law is not a good one, that's also fine. They should work to change the law. They should get out notice about the tactics the government used. But they should also keep in mind that the government was doing what it was supposed to do. It upheld the law.

It shouldn't matter which side of the political spectrum the radio station was on. What matters is that it was illegal. If it were a Clear Channel station, would the outcry about government tactics be as great?

Did they have a license?

Despite its unlicensed status, the station recently won a resolution of support from the Santa Cruz City Council

No, they did not.

no
pirate radio means no license

The government always tries to use overwhelming force. It helps ensure compliance. If only 2 guys in suits with no guns showed up, the station operators might've resisted.

Licenses are damn expensive. You need them because when you boadcast without them men with badges and guns show up and take your stuff. For some reason at some point during the last century the federal government decided it was in charge of deciding who gets to broadcast, even at frequencies that don't normally cross state lines, and even though the government is granted no such power in the Constitution.

The radio broadcast spectrum is limited, and it's necessary to ensure broadcasters don't over-run each other. However, there's no good reason this ought to be controlled at the federal level. Obviously if a locality has no problem with a "pirate" radio station, there's no need to "do something" about it. This is just another case of federal dick waving.

Radio waves do not respect borders. If not the federal government, then who?

no
pirate radio means no license

Ok. Got it. The original post didn't indicate it was a "pirate" radio station.

Well, while I've only read the first few posts, I come away with one thing. The government cracked down on an illegal radio broadcast. While they may have gone overboard in their tactics, they still were upholding the law. While one may disagree with the law, they shouldn't be upset with the government for upholding it.

If one wants to disagree with the tactics, that's fine. If one thinks the law is not a good one, that's also fine. They should work to change the law. They should get out notice about the tactics the government used. But they should also keep in mind that the government was doing what it was supposed to do. It upheld the law.

It shouldn't matter which side of the political spectrum the radio station was on. What matters is that it was illegal. If it were a Clear Channel station, would the outcry about government tactics be as great?

It DID NOT HAPPEN..the people mentioned in the "interview" DO NOT EXIST..the guy is flamebaiting..SANTA CRUZ HAS NO MAYOR KENNEDY< NO MAYOR AT ALL FOR THAT MATTER..Richard C. Wilson, City Manager
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[MKULTRA #1]
*this is an all out war against dissent in the media by the Orwellian Bush administration


Yesterday morning at 9:20 in Santa Cruz, California, two dozen armed federal agents with automatic weapons and riot gear raided pirate radio station Radio Free Santa Cruz. The station had just finished airing its regular broadcast of Democracy Now! when the agents arrived on the scene. Moments after the initial raid, 5 agents from the Federal Communications Commission arrived on the scene.
They located the transmitter and seized all of the station's broadcast equipment, including the antenna. More than 50 local residents showed up on the scene to protest the shut-down of the independent radio station. Free Radio Santa Cruz has been on the air, operating without a license for nearly 10 years and has never been raided before yesterday. Despite its unlicensed status, the station recently won a resolution of support from the Santa Cruz City Council.


JUAN GONZALEZ: So, I guess that resolution from the Santa Cruz City Council was the kiss of death in terms of --

GEORGE CADMAN: Well, actually, we have had two resolutions from the City Council in support of us, one which came many years ago, so I don't think that had anything to do with it, actually. About 100 people showed up to support us. There was about 15 U.S. Marshals and five F.C.C. Agents, roughly, that combed the property. I was present when they arrived. Did you want to hear what happened?

JUAN GONZALEZ: Yes, please.

GEORGE CADMAN: Okay. Well, I was in the station. I came in to do the usual Wednesday morning programming. I put on the alternative news program, Truthout Overview, Independent Native News, Worker's Independent News Service, and Democracy Now! is on at 8:00. I believe Democracy Now! played through. The next show, Alternative Radio is the one that got cut off. It was Howard Zinn. I put on the morning programming, I left the station, and I was walking to around the corner, and Democracy Now! was on the air. I saw a number of unmarked kind of cop cars, undercover cop cars, and I became nervous. I wasn't sure right away what it was, because it was around the corner, but as I was leaving, I saw them swarm the house. There was a bunch of riot -- marshals, U.S. Marshals in riot gear that marched up to the property. At that point, I really didn't have any choice but to get to a phone and call as many as I could. So, I rushed to the closest pay phone and called as many people as I could to come down. And of course, you know, they also got on the phone and began calling people. Then I went back to the station. And when that had occurred. By the time I got back there. They had gotten everyone out of the house. Many of them had their guns drawn--I learned later from some of the tenants. They had them lined up outside, whether they were in their underwear or a bathrobe. And some of them were pretty shaken up by it, because they didn't -- some of them were not fully aware that we were operating there because there's a high turnover in the house. And they were very supportive, though, and basically said very positive things regardless of the situation, although they felt very upset they had not been shown a warrant yet. 20 minutes went by before they were even shown a warrant. Then they were allowed to glance at one, not even read it. Also, they weren't allowed in --

AMY GOODMAN: George, let me bring in Vinny -- let me bring in Vinny Lombardo, who was in the house at the time that the F.C.C. Raided and shut down Free Radio Santa Cruz. Vinny, describe what happened.

VINNY LOMBARDO: I wasn't in the house. Actually, I showed up a few -- like a half hour after the F.C.C. Raid was already in progress. I formerly lived with Free Radio Santa Cruz for a number of years but we moved. In May, we relocated to a new spot, a new spot in Santa Cruz and also a new spot on the dial, primarily to avoid interference complaints that had been lodged against our station. But what happened this morning. I mean, the agents -- George pretty much described it. The agents came in. They kind of secured the property, kept the people that had gathered on the streets sort of away from the edges of the property. No arrests were made. They confiscated all of our equipment, including antenna, transmitter, mixing board, 200 feet of coaxial cable, three CD players, a computer, a flat screen monitor, a Gentner phone box. The agents loaded up their vehicle and tried to drive away. And they were unable to drive away, because somebody in the crowd -- I don't know who, somebody slashed the tires on the vehicle, and on a number of other vehicles as well around the area, a number of the marshals' vehicles that had been parked on the side streets. So, they had quite a difficult time getting away. It just -- you know, they had to basically listen to the community, the people that are losing their community voice. This outlet that we had for ten years in Santa Cruz to be able to communicate with each other, share ideas, talk about politics and things that are just not being talked about in mainstream news and corporate controlled media. And these people were really upset to see their free speech, their voice taken away. So, these agents -- you know, got to hear that for a few more hours while they tried to repair their tires. But that was -- that is pretty much what happened.

AMY GOODMAN: So, what are you going to do now, Vinny?

VINNY LOMBARDO: The collective at this point -- Free Radio is a collective group, and at this point we're still reviewing our options that are before us. Of course, we want to get back to serving our community and get back to our regular programming schedule. So, we're going to use what we have to at our hands now. We have a web stream going at freakradio.org where people can tune in on our webstream and listen to the station at least temporarily. We'll be doing that until we review other options, and see what we can do about getting back on the air. That remains to be seen. How soon we can do that, so it's kind of -- things are still being decided as we speak. We're going to have another meeting to discuss our options further. Over the next couple of days.

JUAN GONZALEZ: Has there been any reaction from the City Council that has twice before passed resolutions in support of the station?

GEORGE CADMAN: Mayor Scott Kennedy came down to support us and he spoke to the media. And he basically said these are resources wasted right now in this time of -- supposed orange alerts and war and all of that. He also said that he feels like this was against what the majority of Santa Cruz wanted. We have a lot of support, and I want to emphasize how much support we have. We have had voicemail donated to us, equipment already, we have had money donated already. We had someone donate silkscreen printed t-shirts they made and lots of supportive phone calls, even from other radio stations. Other stations came through for us at this time. Five other stations announced on the air that we were being raided and gave out the address. It brought down a lot of supporters who are the ones that are missing out now. The listeners who came down here to show their support and were very articulate about why they value and rely on the station. Many of them were talking to the Marshals and F.C.C. Agents and were passionate about what we provide to them. I want to focus back -- you know I just wanted to focus back on why we do what we do. I don't know if the City Council is going to come out with a resolution or not. But the Mayor was there. There was a couple of City Council people that are running for City Council that were there. It shows you the level of support that we have, that the City Council feels, you know, that it's important for them to show up for these things. I kind of want to make --

AMY GOODMAN: we also want to just point out that this follows what happened in Knoxville, Tennessee, with the F.C.C. moving in on, raiding KFAR. Ironically enough, KFAR stands for First Amendment Radio. So, this is the second raid in just about one or two weeks.

GEORGE CADMAN: Yeah. That was about --

AMY GOODMAN: I want to thank you for being with us. Do you have a website that people can go to to get more information?

GEORGE CADMAN: Yes. It's www.freakradio.org. That's freak -- freakradio.org.
www.freakradio.org

Acid head,.. I mean MK,.. Only you would see a simple police action against criminals as a "vast right wing conspiracy".

Well,.. maybe not ONLY you,.. but you're a great example of your kind, and thanks for making it very clear how perfectly satisfied you are in displaying your insanity in the open. We really do appreciate it, as we LIKE knowing where the loons are at all times.

Thanks again..! :)

(( Everyone does realize that MK got the name MKULTRA from the LSD based mind control experiments of the CIA way back when, right..? I think MK is trying to control our minds with MK's own brand of internet-borne acid,.. his words. And it's succeding with me, as MK's words always "burn out my braincells" upon reading..! :) ))

and they needed armed federal agents for what exactly? :confused:

seems a bit extreem to me. maybe they took the "pirate" idea a bit too seriously.

well so sorry for the broadcasters. how much does a broadcasting license cost anyway?

also... why do we need licenses to broadcast?
they needed to be armed because they thought the pirates would have swords

It DID NOT HAPPEN..the people mentioned in the "interview" DO NOT EXIST..the guy is flamebaiting..SANTA CRUZ HAS NO MAYOR KENNEDY< NO MAYOR AT ALL FOR THAT MATTER..Richard C. Wilson, City Manager
809 Center Street, Room 10
Santa Cruz, California 95060
(831) 420-5010
Fax: (831) 420-5011
try to google the story it's real
http://www.zwire.com/news/newsstory.cfm?newsid=13044954&title=%3CP%3EStation%20silenced&BRD=1197&PAG=461&CATNAME=Top%20Stories&CATEGORYID=410
is one thing i got from google news

try to google the story it's real
http://www.zwire.com/news/newsstory.cfm?newsid=13044954&title=%3CP%3EStation%20silenced&BRD=1197&PAG=461&CATNAME=Top%20Stories&CATEGORYID=410
is one thing i got from google news

I read the article and found this very interesting: "Three tires were slashed on two different federal agent vehicles, delaying the transport of the confiscated equipment."

ok maybe names were changed like in that old cop show
i dont know :confused:

they needed to be armed because they thought the pirates would have swords

It's just standard operating procedure any time a raid is conducted by federal agents. They've learned the hard way that there are people who strenuously object to the law being enforced.

try to call the actual city manager, who in the *interview*is somehow called mayor kennedy?? its NOT
before you ride around on your high horse banging your gong of righteousness please do about 15 seconds of research.

http://www.ci.santa-cruz.ca.us/council/scottkennedy.html
http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/archive/2004/August/29/local/stories/06local.htm
http://www.howhist.com/jfraser/santacruz2004/santacruz2004.htm

It's just standard operating procedure any time a raid is conducted by federal agents. They've learned the hard way that there are people who strenuously object to the law being enforced.
congratulations your a killjoy

congratulations your a killjoy

He also is accurate.

before you ride around on your high horse banging your gong of righteousness please do about 15 seconds of research.

http://www.ci.santa-cruz.ca.us/council/scottkennedy.html
http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/archive/2004/August/29/local/stories/06local.htm
http://www.howhist.com/jfraser/santacruz2004/santacruz2004.htm

Already did. When I first saw the inaccuracy in his statement at the top of the thread, then caught a few that SEEMED inaccurate, I made a very leftist mistake of jumping to conclusions. My apologies. The raid, indeed, did happen. It was a civil affair(even as stated in the prrof above) there were NO heavily armed agents, the FCC agents were not armed, and the FBI was armed no more than usual when arresting lawbreakers(which the station was)
The simple act of disagreeing with a law does not make the law null and void.
Anyway, beside the point, I apologize for.what was CBS's line....not using good judgement? ;)

He also is accurate.
i really hope you 2 realise my post there was a JOKE, god forbid you people develop a sense of humor

congratulations your a killjoy

LOL! Sorry about that! I've been called worse. :)

Already did. When I first saw the inaccuracy in his statement at the top of the thread, then caught a few that SEEMED inaccurate, I made a very leftist mistake of jumping to conclusions. My apologies. The raid, indeed, did happen. It was a civil affair(even as stated in the prrof above) there were NO heavily armed agents, the FCC agents were not armed, and the FBI was armed no more than usual when arresting lawbreakers(which the station was)
The simple act of disagreeing with a law does not make the law null and void.
Anyway, beside the point, I apologize for.what was CBS's line....not using good judgement? ;)
your whoel argument had nothing to do with the legality of them being on there air or being taken off the air, neither did it have to do with the people having arms

your whole attack plan was assaulting the "fact" there was "no mayor kennedy, or even any mayor" which there obviously is

i really hope you 2 realise my post there was a JOKE, god forbid you people develop a sense of humor

I got it. I laughed, didn't I???

I got it. I laughed, didn't I???
after i posted that

your whoel argument had nothing to do with the legality of them being on there air or being taken off the air, neither did it have to do with the people having arms

your whole attack plan was assaulting the "fact" there was "no mayor kennedy, or even any mayor" which there obviously is

True..I however got that impression by looking on the official site of the city,where under city govt, no mayor was listed,and calling the number listed which dutifully informed me there IS no mayor.

True..I however got that impression by looking on the official site of the city,where under city govt, no mayor was listed,and calling the number listed which dutifully informed me there IS no mayor.
which is quite odd because everything else states there is a mayor, so i will jsut assume scott kennedy is the head city council member and just lovingly or mistakenly called the mayor

which is quite odd because everything else states there is a mayor, so i will jsut assume scott kennedy is the head city council member and just lovingly or mistakenly called the mayor
I am not arguing with u:)I have since looked at enough to agree with u,but I find it odd as well..maybe something to do with Cali's legal marijuana ;)

after i posted that

Um ... how could I have laughed at your joke BEFORE you posted it???

People please.....let's all calm down and point a finger at Colodia and just burst out laughing. That will make everyone feel better!

I don't know why Colodia....it was the first person that popped in my head.

Yep, uh-huh.
Something completely possible under the "big federal government controls everything, no local control, no states rights idealism".
Do you think an omnipotent fed will only crack down on people you disagree with?
Reap what you sow, federalist commie bastards! It's coming!
And remember that the power will reside in the hands of your opposition as often as in the hands of your chosen ones.

no we need to fight the corporate facism in our media and get the voices of real people on the air

The 'real people' referring to anyone who does not dissent towards your ideals?

no we need to fight the corporate facism in our media and get the voices of real people on the air
Holy shit I actually agree (The first of many, perhaps?) - I want the FCC disbanded (or entirely revamed so IT CANT CENSOR) cause I dont want the government telling me what I should/should not watch - geez if you don't want that content so bad you can liscence private corporations to censor for you, but NOT THE GOVERNMENT

Doesnt the FCC only censor public channels?

I remember that Comedy Central aired the South Park movie totally uncut... at 1 am, but still...

Doesnt the FCC only censor public channels?

I remember that Comedy Central aired the South Park movie totally uncut... at 1 am, but still...
I think so . . . .

on Adult Swim they force CTN to show those 'this may be inappropriate for kids under 14' message - geez, grow up you oversentitive censor monkeys (referring to FCC here)!

Already did. When I first saw the inaccuracy in his statement at the top of the thread, then caught a few that SEEMED inaccurate, I made a very leftist mistake of jumping to conclusions. My apologies. The raid, indeed, did happen. It was a civil affair(even as stated in the prrof above) there were NO heavily armed agents, the FCC agents were not armed, and the FBI was armed no more than usual when arresting lawbreakers(which the station was)
The simple act of disagreeing with a law does not make the law null and void.
Anyway, beside the point, I apologize for.what was CBS's line....not using good judgement? ;)
Ah, nice. Try to make your own short-sightedness a left thing instead of you just being an idiot.

It was amusing watching you vehemently deny something that happened in my own backyard like a stomping child despite the perponderance of evidence that it did. How very right wing of you.

Seems like every time the feds feel impotent they come here and raid a long standing institution that the population has long since accepted or even supported. Ah, to be on the recieving end of peoples penis issues...

Doesnt the FCC only censor public channels?

I remember that Comedy Central aired the South Park movie totally uncut... at 1 am, but still...
They are taking advantage of 'watershed' hours (later hours where the regulations change) and being a 250 pound gorilla (not a total gorilla, but...) to be able to counter the fees with advertising revenue.

Also we have to fight governmental suppression against people telling alternative truths. What other reason else than intimidation can you see for 15 riot-cops with submachine guns raiding a small radio station ?
exactly--they are just as much terrorists as is al queda

Yay democracy in action.

I missed you MKULTRA! :)
I miss you to dont ever NS leave us again

What's Democracy Now ?
its the voice of the people on the air-the voice of the people is the voice of God

I wasn't sure if the voices were God. Now I know to listen to them all the time.

This did NOT actually happen people..The original post was full of factual inaccuracies so was either a nationstates roleplay?I guess??or just a lie.
It did happen--govt jackboots raided a media outlet that wouldnt tow the corporate line

If we disband th FCC we will have porn shorts in a day, porn shows in a week, and Porn Movies in a mounth.

It DID NOT HAPPEN..the people mentioned in the "interview" DO NOT EXIST..the guy is flamebaiting..SANTA CRUZ HAS NO MAYOR KENNEDY< NO MAYOR AT ALL FOR THAT MATTER..Richard C. Wilson, City Manager
809 Center Street, Room 10
Santa Cruz, California 95060
(831) 420-5010
Fax: (831) 420-5011
your hallucinating

It did happen--govt jackboots raided a media outlet that wouldnt tow the corporate lineand was illegal but since you anarchist that doesn't Matter. ;)

oh and their are Real people running plenty of News medias that aren't radio like CBS, The NY Times, Every news channel other than fox.

Let me save you some of your marbles, by summarizing...

... raided pirate radio station Radio Free Santa Cruz....Free Radio Santa Cruz has been on the air, operating without a license for nearly 10 years and has never been raided before yesterday. Despite its unlicensed status, the station recently won a resolution of support from the Santa Cruz City Council.

So, to summarize:

- An unlicensed radio station has been shut down. Radio broadcast licenses are actually fairly easy to acquire. The problem the feds have with unlicensed stations normally has to do with their power output, and their propensity to "step" all over legally-licensed radio stations (folks in San Diego know all about the "X," transmitting from inside Mexico, with more power than practically any other station...same situation in El Paso.)

- This unlicensed radio station was actually lucky enough to make it to 10 years on air. That was plenty of time to go "legit" (i.e., secure a license from the FCC.)

- I think what brought the power of the feds to bear was the resolution. If a city council (regardless of how far-left it is,) celebrates those who willfully break the law, all semblance of public order is lost. Methinks the resolution was the straw that broke the camel's back.

The 'real people' referring to anyone who does not dissent towards your ideals?
real people dont have corporate opinions

and don't forget Gay porn on live TV from gay central and don't mind those cuss words either, make sure to add footage of fake rapes onto the tv stations.

Holy shit I actually agree (The first of many, perhaps?) - I want the FCC disbanded (or entirely revamed so IT CANT CENSOR) cause I dont want the government telling me what I should/should not watch - geez if you don't want that content so bad you can liscence private corporations to censor for you, but NOT THE GOVERNMENT
the FCC only exists to act as thought police for the govt and the corporate beast

real people dont have corporate opinions
you know what until now I thought you were just a moron now you are a "COMPLETE MAD JACKASS AND PYCHO"

Rape is not so bad. Without it, there would be no Luke Skywalker.

the FCC only exists to act as thought police for the govt and the corporate beast
read post above and That is a load of bull they also sensor from the eyes of wachting children from pictures porn, sex, and voilence.

I wasn't sure if the voices were God. Now I know to listen to them all the time.
God has always been in the grassroots and hates the vulgar seat of power

Im proud of those patriots who slashed the feds tires

God has always been in the grassroots and hates the vulgar seat of power
Stop it mad man. :mad: You need mental help, oh and I am not a real person since I support some coprate Ideas so jackass what you got now.

That's silly. God only hates jews and cubans. Thus, hurricanes.

If we disband th FCC we will have porn shorts in a day, porn shows in a week, and Porn Movies in a mounth.
Im glad your starten to come into the Light, Star

Im proud of those patriots who slashed the feds tires
retarded master mind is your new status wacht as I grow to hate you more.

You need a license because air ways are public property, and as such decency laws and other regulations guide them and a license is simply an agreement to abide by these standards, and so the FCC knows to keep track of you and what you say so you don't swear or have people having sex over public airwaves or something like that.

You also need them because the FCC is also in change of making sure everyone's station is in its own frequency and doesn't overlap or steal others' bandwidth.

Im glad your starten to come into the Light, Star
that was a NEGATIVE POST, do you want two year olds seeing porn.

oh and their are Real people running plenty of News medias that aren't radio like CBS, The NY Times, Every news channel other than fox.
theyre all controlled--which is why we need a pirate media

theyre all controlled--which is why we need a pirate media
ya know if you ever post a pic of yourself if i see you I will hurt you.

Mmm, the booty... the boooooty...

and don't forget Gay porn on live TV from gay central and don't mind those cuss words either, make sure to add footage of fake rapes onto the tv stations.
the people have a right to be entertained

the people have a right to be entertained :eek: :eek: it is ze moron from zhe deep zestory him.

TTN. The Tubgirl Network. Arcing projectile feces twenty four hours a day.

Rape is not so bad. Without it, there would be no Luke Skywalker.
all the ancient gods used to rape people daily

Mods if anyone ever reads this I want you to know MKULTRA is a total Moron, Complete Jackass and Psycho, and retarded mast mind.

read post above and That is a load of bull they also sensor from the eyes of wachting children from pictures porn, sex, and voilence.
children should be in bed when adults are playing

Mods if anyone ever reads this I want you to know MKULTRA is a total Moron, Complete Jackass and Psycho, and retarded mast mind.
Whoa, easy there. You might find yourself at the wrong end of it by the time the mods are done.

Whoa, easy there. You might find yourself at the wrong end of it by the time the mods are done.
he's almost passed the light cuss words too.

Who are you to tell me when my experiments should be dormant?

children should be in bed when adults are playing
pervert.

Stop it mad man. :mad: You need mental help, oh and I am not a real person since I support some coprate Ideas so jackass what you got now.
I can beat any unreal person in a debate

he's almost passed the light cuss words too.
I'm talking about you here. Enough with the insults. You can make your points about TRA without getting down in the gutter with him.

That's silly. God only hates jews and cubans. Thus, hurricanes.
No he sent the hurricaines to florida cause Jeb wont let 17000 new voters get on the voting rolls

I can beat any unreal person in a debate
proof it lets start with our current topic and end with it too reasons why MKULTRA is a complete ******

If they didn't have a license, they deserved what they got.

I'm talking about you here. Enough with the insults. You can make your points about TRA without getting down in the gutter with him.
I was refering to my name scales

that was a NEGATIVE POST, do you want two year olds seeing porn.
2 years olds dont even know what theyre looken at

No he sent the hurricaines to florida cause Jeb wont let 17000 new voters get on the voting rolls
What does that matter? Black people don't have opinions. Everyone knows how docile and overly logical they are.

PS the ******* wasn't any cuss word any six letter word will do.

ya know if you ever post a pic of yourself if i see you I will hurt you.
I tried to once- my pic is on photo bucket

2 years olds dont even know what theyre looken at
which is why it freaking wrong, If you think convincing children sex before marriage, porn, gay porn, and violence are okay then I can't convince you otherwise.

TTN. The Tubgirl Network. Arcing projectile feces twenty four hours a day.
thats better then whats on the telly now

This is me:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v390/OverThrow/billy_in_g.jpg

on Adult Swim they force CTN to show those 'this may be inappropriate for kids under 14' message - geez, grow up you oversentitive censor monkeys (referring to FCC here)!

Because it really kills ya to see that before they show the good stuff, huh? ;)

Yes, it's the public airwaves that are governed by the FCC. By and large, cable is far more risque since it is NOT over the open air.

gasp my logical argument is probably sinking in.

pervert.
kids suck anyway-they want you to change their crapfilled knickers and feed them slop all day-Ive got better things to do with my life

If they didn't have a license, they deserved what they got.
elitist

kids suck anyway-they want you to change their crapfilled knickers and feed them slop all day-Ive got better things to do with my life
keep this up and I'll have a chance to tell your mother.

What does that matter? Black people don't have opinions. Everyone knows how docile and overly logical they are.
LOL yeah I supposed Al Sharpton is just a docile cud chewing cow walking peacefully amongst us

some people actually care about children like my family.

keep this up and I'll have a chance to tell your mother.
Still buying into the whole "birth" conspiracy, I see. Women lie to us - only blood and discharge comes out of those unholy crevices. Pregnancy is an illusion.

If they didn't have a license, they deserved what they got.
And there, Ladies and Gentlemen, is the bottom line. It isn't like they didn't know or even have enough time. 10 years!!!

Shut em down till they do things according to the Law.

read post above and That is a load of bull they also sensor from the eyes of wachting children from pictures porn, sex, and voilence.

Screw the kids. No one cares about them and if their parent's aren't good enough to keep them from watching pron or feel that they don't need to then there you go.

Kids suck.

And fuck the CIPA. Really.

Tehok: Knock it off.

which is why it freaking wrong, If you think convincing children sex before marriage, porn, gay porn, and violence are okay then I can't convince you otherwise.
children can piss off --I dont have any time for their whiny baby voices asking me moronic questions, repeating pig stupid rhymes and always nagging me for attention

which is why it freaking wrong, If you think convincing children sex before marriage, porn, gay porn, and violence are okay then I can't convince you otherwise.

Those are your opinions on what's right kthnx. :(

This is me:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v390/OverThrow/billy_in_g.jpg
you look like Jesus--your even dressed like him

What was the intent of this topic? Oh yea'll, a bunch of 'moochers' lost their underground radio. I would really like to know what type of submachine guns they used. I think your are confused with that 50 yr old show, 'The Untoucahables'. You see, Govt agents don't carry SMGs!

I'm glad the raid transpired. That means my tax money is working. I guess next, they will want unemployment, food stamps, and a free license!

Get a real, and legal *JOB*!

some people actually care about children like my family.
thats good to know I hope everyone in the entire world sends you their brats

Screw the kids. No one cares about them and if their parent's aren't good enough to keep them from watching pron or feel that they don't need to then there you go.

Kids suck.

And fuck the CIPA. Really.
plz don't make me call all moms on you and dads for that matter, I assure you I have a name that will make them stand up and take notice

Screw the kids. No one cares about them and if their parent's aren't good enough to keep them from watching pron or feel that they don't need to then there you go.

Kids suck.

And fuck the CIPA. Really.
thats my take on it too--people always use kids as an excuse to steal your rights

Tehok: Knock it off.
when did you become a mod Kat? I just noticed this...

thats good to know I hope everyone in the entire world sends you their brats
have you ever had children I haven't but still you are full of intolrence you if in charge of the world would bring humanity to extiction.

What was the intent of this topic? Oh yea'll, a bunch of 'moochers' lost their underground radio. I would really like to know what type of submachine guns they used. I think your are confused with that 50 yr old show, 'The Untoucahables'. You see, Govt agents don't carry SMGs!

I'm glad the raid transpired. That means my tax money is working. I guess next, they will want unemployment, food stamps, and a free license!

Get a real, and legal *JOB*!
theyre taking back the airwaves for the people--its called active democracy

you look like Jesus--your even dressed like him
And I'm not even Cuban.

plz don't make me call all moms on you and dads for that matter, I assure you I have a name that will make them stand up and take notice

plz stop talkin liek this kthnx it lessnes ur pont and is vury annoying

Don't make me call YOUR mom and dad and tell them to get you back in 8th grade English.

whats the CIPA I don't pay much attention to government departments.

And I'm not even Cuban.
LOL

plz stop talkin liek this kthnx it lessnes ur pont and is vury annoying

Don't make me call YOUR mom and dad and tell them to get you back in 8th grade English.
like you could I have no trackablity it I got all cs and thus passed 70% is easy to get.

thats my take on it too--people always use kids as an excuse to steal your rights

Gasp, but if we don't protect the harmless little children who do things like call things gay and are having sex earlier and earlier and getting pregnant thanks to religious extremeists then what will we ever do? We have to have censorship for the children!..yeah..

Gasp, but if we don't protect the harmless little children who do things like call things gay and are having sex earlier and earlier and getting pregnant thanks to religious extremeists then what will we ever do? We have to have censorship for the children!..yeah..
children are no different then adults their just dumber louder and more annoying

like you could I have no trackablity it I got all cs and thus passed 70% is easy to get.

Yeah, I'm sure you're a 'l33t haxor' and have hacked into the subnet of the TCP/IP port of your token-ring router. Sure.

And we can already tell you got all C's hunny. <3

Gasp, but if we don't protect the harmless little children who do things like call things gay and are having sex earlier and earlier and getting pregnant thanks to religious extremeists then what will we ever do? We have to have censorship for the children!..yeah..
I want you to know I feel like saying GO TO THE DEVIL TO COMPLAIN YOU WILL GET MORE SYHPATHY!!!!!!!!

children are no different then adults their just dumber

No way! They're..like..perfect little angles who can do no wrong. Their mommy says so.

children are no different then adults their just dumber louder and more annoying
actually they are Smarter and Less annoying then you.

I want you to know I feel like saying GO TO THE DEVIL TO COMPLAIN YOU WILL GET MORE SYHPATHY!!!!!!!!

The Devil doesn't exsist, d'uh.

Wait, maybe that was your point.

Go complain to god, you'll get more sympathy..but wait! He doesn't exsist either! So it's the same insult only with more insulting undertones, oooo!

No way! They're..like..perfect little angles who can do no wrong. Their mommy says so.
thats it you guys are going down.

when did you become a mod Kat? I just noticed this...

About a month ago, actually.

thats it you guys are going down.

Oh no, the l33t haxor is going to haxor into my computer with something he downloaded..

His mommy says he's the best at that stuff.

About a month ago, actually.

There was a thread and everything. :( People are mean.

About a month ago, actually.
I didnt know there was rightwing mods

Ahh, but YOU noticed. ;)

Actually, kind of a compliment I guess -- I've posted opposite MKULTRA a couple of times since becoming a mod and it wasn't noticed... ;)

I really don't consider myself right-wing though.

Neither does the political compass (flawed though it is....)

Economic Left/Right: -4.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.79

Oh no, the l33t haxor is going to haxor into my computer with something he downloaded..

His mommy says he's the best at that stuff.
anyway I got a firewall

Ahh, but YOU noticed. ;)

Actually, kind of a compliment I guess -- I've posted opposite MKULTRA a couple of times since becoming a mod and it wasn't noticed... ;)
your a good mod cause you fly under the rader heh
I didnt even notice till you warned Jesus

anyway I got a firewall

Firewalls can only do so much, but it doesn't really matter anyway. Just remember, firewalls are the first line of defense, not the absolute.

Just some friendly computer advice.

Oh no, the l33t haxor is going to haxor into my computer with something he downloaded..

His mommy says he's the best at that stuff.
no I'll settle for ruining crediblity.

Firewalls can only do so much, but it doesn't really matter anyway. Just remember, firewalls are the first line of defense, not the absolute.

Just some friendly computer advice.
you have a beautiful mind

you have a beautiful mind

Thank you. :D

Thank you. :D
che ni dici di un bacio della buona notte

Ah, nice. Try to make your own short-sightedness a left thing instead of you just being an idiot.

It was amusing watching you vehemently deny something that happened in my own backyard like a stomping child despite the perponderance of evidence that it did. How very right wing of you.

Seems like every time the feds feel impotent they come here and raid a long standing institution that the population has long since accepted or even supported. Ah, to be on the recieving end of peoples penis issues...

If you bothered to read further you would have seen WHY I was denying, because the first part I already knew was untrue(no sub machine guns kiddies, sorry) Then I saw in the *interview* reference to a Mayor Kennedy, so I looked on the citys official homepage, under government..and what do you know...no mayor! But it listed a city manager with a different name, so, still not all the way jumping to conclusion, I actually CALLED, and was told there is no mayor. Therefore, my first estimate was still giving the benefit of the doubt(something you obviously didnt do with your own post) And I assumed it was somehow a nationstates roleplay that had gotten posted here by accident, especially after reading the following post about the 14 year old pres(good btw, funny) Only after NO replies, and after having called long distance, and been told there is no mayor by the listed city manager on the citys official page, THEN I decided that it was a deliberate lie.
I was wrong(more than CBS admitted to, though I went thru more to verify than they did)

What was the intent of this topic? Oh yea'll, a bunch of 'moochers' lost their underground radio. I would really like to know what type of submachine guns they used. I think your are confused with that 50 yr old show, 'The Untoucahables'. You see, Govt agents don't carry SMGs!

I'm glad the raid transpired. That means my tax money is working. I guess next, they will want unemployment, food stamps, and a free license!

Get a real, and legal *JOB*!

Exactly, that was the part that caught my eye first, sub machine guns :rolleyes: ...too many kids watchin too much tv here.

if you jump into a barrel of monkeys you will almost certainly get the absolute living hell bitten out of you, and you'll have no one to blame but yourself.
Hahaha! ;)

If I were president, all of you would be dead.
....just so you could take advantage of our corpses .... 'specially mine, since without blood to the surface, i'm sure my robust complexion-turned-alabaster would be bathed greatly by the subtle candlelight reflecting off your fangs.
Or something to that effect?

Dont get nme wrong..Im a liberal too, but...


Pirate radio stations are illegal.

They broadcast without permits.

Thats no good.

Maybe so. Your IQ is not.
Hahahaha!!!

Ah, nice. Try to make your own short-sightedness a left thing instead of you just being an idiot.

It was amusing watching you vehemently deny something that happened in my own backyard like a stomping child despite the perponderance of evidence that it did. How very right wing of you.

Seems like every time the feds feel impotent they come here and raid a long standing institution that the population has long since accepted or even supported. Ah, to be on the recieving end of peoples penis issues...
(as to the bottom line, Burroughs)
*cough cough* Sexual Ambulance?
;)
I don't wanna F*CK 'em, i just wanna talk to 'em.

Dont get nme wrong..Im a liberal too, but...


Pirate radio stations are illegal.

They broadcast without permits.

Thats no good.
drugs are illegal too but does that make them bad?

....just so you could take advantage of our corpses .... 'specially mine, since without blood to the surface, i'm sure my robust complexion-turned-alabaster would be bathed greatly by the subtle candlelight reflecting off your fangs.
Or something to that effect?

Dentures. I knocked my fangs out years ago. Teeth are for gay people, that's why fairies come and take them.

drugs are illegal too but does that make them bad?
Drugs are a different matter. Drugs only harm the person taking it. Pirate radio signals have been known to interfere with emergency service frequencies, and sometimes even with air traffic control.

read post above and That is a load of bull they also sensor from the eyes of wachting children from pictures porn, sex, and voilence.

God forbid our children wacht pictures-porn and voilence!

because according to the Bush administration any kind of dissent of his policies is considered terrorism-and your right, the airwaves belongs to the people not to corporations

Dude, they've been issueing Broadcast licenses long before the Bush Administration. They've been issueing them for Radio long before TV was invented.

drugs are illegal too but does that make them bad?

In a word, YES..
as a side note, I think now I understand your posts more after reading this one.

the FCC only exists to act as thought police for the govt and the corporate beast

No, it doesn't. I am sorry that you believe paranoid lies, but there are plenty of things that are broadcast that the government doesn't agree with. For example, every liberal radio talk show would be shut down if the FCC was Nazi-esque, but they aren't, and I hear them on the radio. So, stop being a paranoid moron and get with the real world.

the FCC isnt so much the thought police as the ability to sneak around the first amendment to limit what the people can or cant see. blocking all liberal stations is a bit too obvious, but other than that they sit around telling people what they can and cant do, and fining them off their asses ifthey do soemthing the gov. doesnt like.

In a word, YES..
as a side note, I think now I understand your posts more after reading this one.
people have a biological need to altar their conscussness--its derived from the part of our brains that self destructive people channel into religious beliefs

the FCC isnt so much the thought police as the ability to sneak around the first amendment to limit what the people can or cant see. blocking all liberal stations is a bit too obvious, but other than that they sit around telling people what they can and cant do, and fining them off their asses ifthey do soemthing the gov. doesnt like.

Actually, it is if they do something the people don't like. FCC does not monitor people, they monitor corportations(yes, including this radio station)
The majority of people(this is still a democracy) have asked for less cussing, less violence, etc. While many people don't care, THESE people never came out protesting, the only people the government saw were the ones who wanted less of such things, hence the gradual laws in the pre-tv days for radio. Since then, the industry is much less regulated as the government has relaxed and more of the people care less about such things. The radio station in question here was a pirate radio station for years, that easily would have been licensed if they had gotten off their leftist arses and bothered to do things the correct way, instead they preferred being lazy. In response to the person who said the airwaves belong to the people, you are correct...and I am glad they took this ORGANIZATION off my airways.

(this is still a democracy).
Democratic republic but still very close.

no we need to fight the corporate facism in our media and get the voices of real people on the air
MKULTRA. Learn facts. The Government took the airwaves from the people in 1933 when the FCC was officialy established. Oh it was part of the New Deal so shut up until you get real facts

BTW MK do you smoke crack, or weed, or any other ILLEGAL DRUGS.

BREAKING NEWS! The player of Tyrandis today led a military coup against Colodia. Within minutes, the capital was set to flames as rabid donkeys tore into the city, brutally slaughtering the monkey followers of Colodia.

When asked why he launched the rebellion, Tyrandis stated that "Democracy needed to fall sooner or later. Long live oppression."

Today, our new Supreme Dictator has ordered that every Saturday be dedicated to worshipping him. On a lighter note, the San Diego Chargers were eaten alive by aliens today...

Seriously though, I wish sometimes that the Feds would actually BE as evil as MKULTRA makes them out to be. At least they would hunt him down and shut him up, freeing us all from his retarded ramblings.

Hi my name is Star Shadow and I am not real.

Actually, it is if they do something the people don't like. FCC does not monitor people, they monitor corportations(yes, including this radio station)
The majority of people(this is still a democracy) have asked for less cussing, less violence, etc. While many people don't care, THESE people never came out protesting, the only people the government saw were the ones who wanted less of such things, hence the gradual laws in the pre-tv days for radio. Since then, the industry is much less regulated as the government has relaxed and more of the people care less about such things. The radio station in question here was a pirate radio station for years, that easily would have been licensed if they had gotten off their leftist arses and bothered to do things the correct way, instead they preferred being lazy. In response to the person who said the airwaves belong to the people, you are correct...and I am glad they took this ORGANIZATION off my airways.
censorship nazi

MKULTRA. Learn facts. The Government took the airwaves from the people in 1933 when the FCC was officialy established. Oh it was part of the New Deal so shut up until you get real facts
well its a bad deal and I want it abolish

well its a bad deal and I want it abolishand I want to light you on fire but..

well its a bad deal and I want it abolish
So you are going to abolish the New Deal. I guess there is hope for you after all!

BREAKING NEWS! The player of Tyrandis today led a military coup against Colodia. Within minutes, the capital was set to flames as rabid donkeys tore into the city, brutally slaughtering the monkey followers of Colodia.

When asked why he launched the rebellion, Tyrandis stated that "Democracy needed to fall sooner or later. Long live oppression."

Today, our new Supreme Dictator has ordered that every Saturday be dedicated to worshipping him. On a lighter note, the San Diego Chargers were eaten alive by aliens today...

Seriously though, I wish sometimes that the Feds would actually BE as evil as MKULTRA makes them out to be. At least they would hunt him down and shut him up, freeing us all from his retarded ramblings.my retarded ramblings is supposed to make yout THINK

and I want to light you on fire but..
want me to say another dead baby joke? keep it up

So you are going to abolish the New Deal. I guess there is hope for you after all!
Govt shouldnt have a finger in every pie

Govt shouldnt have a finger in every pie

Hey I agree here so lets dump Social Security and give it over to the public, Lets do the same with Medicare, Medicade, Perscription Drugs

Hey I agree here so lets dump Social Security and give it over to the public, Lets do the same with Medicare, Medicade, Perscription Drugs
now your gettin carried away...

now your gettin carried away...

Of course..you would like to get your hand outs from the govt(tax paying public) but want them to take their rules n stick them lol....I would gladly trade and give you fewer rules in exchange for not having to pay extra taxes etc to support those who don't do anything except put a drag on society.

Of course..you would like to get your hand outs from the govt(tax paying public) but want them to take their rules n stick them lol....I would gladly trade and give you fewer rules in exchange for not having to pay extra taxes etc to support those who don't do anything except put a drag on society.
I oppose corporate welfare for exactly those reasons

MKULTRA, you're starting to sound like a conservative : (well somewhat). You have reaffirmed my belief in God and made my day, thanks!

I oppose corporate welfare for exactly those reasons

We are not so different then, I oppose all "social programs" I think that people can take better care of themselves than the government can. Our government in the constitution was intended really only to regulate trade, foreign policy, and national defense, and I resent anytime it ventures out of those areas myself. So I resent "corporate welfare" and also individual welfare..the thing you should know about corporate welfare however is that the usual "leftist" line that corporations are getting all these unfair breaks..corporations actually CREATE the money in our , and in every, nation..they are the businesses that hire to create jobs, they are what actually allows the world to keep "spinning". Therefore, a tax BREAK, which means they can keep more of THEIR OWN MONEY, is not at all the same as welfare, which means somebody gives them something, for nothing. I am all for tax breaks, for everybody, including them, and the money we save with tax breaks can create MORE jobs, so the people who would rather get money for nothing(welfare, etc) can instead work, and themselves contribute, with also lower taxes, and the circle grows... :)

Radio waves do not respect borders. If not the federal government, then who?

It depends on a number of factors, mainly the frequency range in question. HF freqs are capable of bouncing around the world, but VHF and UHF generally don't. Short range radio property rights ought to be left to the states to regulate, delegate, or ignore. In a large state, like Arizona, where I live it would make sense to leave it up to counties to license broadcasting priviliages for FM radio and VHF/UHF TV.

There's no legitimate reason for a monstrosity like the FCC to have control over virtually all radio broadcasts all the way down to the radios in taxis.

The simple act of disagreeing with a law does not make the law null and void.

It does if you're on the jury.





(I realize there's no jury in this case)

Doesnt the FCC only censor public channels?

I remember that Comedy Central aired the South Park movie totally uncut... at 1 am, but still...


They are taking advantage of 'watershed' hours (later hours where the regulations change) and being a 250 pound gorilla (not a total gorilla, but...) to be able to counter the fees with advertising revenue.

No, Comedy Central is a cable channel. The FCC does not have control of cable transmissions. They, want that control, but so far they don't have it. That's why you can watch "The Sopranos" and the Spice channel on cable. But yes, it would be legal if they did broadcast the movie over the airwaves after 22:00.

That's silly. God only hates jews and cubans. Thus, hurricanes.

Don't forget about the rednecks. Florida also has rednecks.





...And old people. Florida also has old people, some of whom are neither jewish nor redneck.