NationStates Jolt Archive


Official NS Education Poll

Cannot think of a name
29-09-2004, 00:57
I'm not really that old school, but I liked the flavor.

So anyway, there are a lot of speculation about the average education of the NSers, usually to explain why the speculators points aren't getting across. So I thought I'd make this entirely unscientific, yet somehow official, poll about the education level of people on NS.

You can also list non-formal education that you think qualifies (I'm certainly not saying it doesn't. There are plenty of ways to learn things.) or the institution that you attend(ed) and what your degree or field was.

I'll start, I got my BA from UC Santa Cruz in Film & Digital Media with a concentration on production and screenwritting, and am getting a graduate degree(Certificate. It's like a wuss MA) in Playwrighting from the same school.
Bottle
29-09-2004, 01:01
oooh, finally there is a benefit from my years of schooling! i get to brag about it on an internet forum, where nobody will actually believe me!

12 years public school, 4 years undergrad (majoring in Biology, Philosophy, and Psychology, minoring in...oh, the list is far too long), just began as a PhD student in the biomedical sciences, aimed at either neuroscience, pathology, or pharmacology.
Cannot think of a name
29-09-2004, 01:02
oooh, finally there is a benefit from my years of schooling! i get to brag about it on an internet forum, where nobody will actually believe me!

12 years public school, 4 years undergrad (majoring in Biology, Philosophy, and Psychology, minoring in...oh, the list is far too long), just began as a PhD student in the biomedical sciences, aimed at either neuroscience, pathology, or pharmacology.
I was hoping you'd see this and tip the scales.

I don't know that anyone doesn't believe you. Awed maybe......

It was actually because of you I included Ph.D in progress.
Bottle
29-09-2004, 01:05
I was hoping you'd see this and tip the scales.

I don't know that anyone doesn't believe you. Awed maybe......

It was actually because of you I included Ph.D in progress.
awww, shucks.

to be honest, i am starting to freak out about the whole grad school thing. it's not so much the workload that is killing me (though it's trying), it's the idea that i will be tied down for roughly 5 years while doing my thesis. i love to move around, to travel, and it's hard to face the fact that my thesis work will demand that i stay with one lab for so long.
Cannot think of a name
29-09-2004, 01:12
awww, shucks.

to be honest, i am starting to freak out about the whole grad school thing. it's not so much the workload that is killing me (though it's trying), it's the idea that i will be tied down for roughly 5 years while doing my thesis. i love to move around, to travel, and it's hard to face the fact that my thesis work will demand that i stay with one lab for so long.
I collaborate with a guy who took five years on his masters. He was purposfully dragging his feet so he could take as many non-related classes as he could find. It worked out for him, but that doesn't make the staying in one place thing better. I feel you on that, I get ansy after being in one place too long. Once a bunch of people know who I am it becomes too much to manage and I have to move on. Luckily in my field I'm only with one group for three months at a time, then I get to switch up. Unless I end up working in TV, which would be a consistant paycheck.
Erastide
29-09-2004, 01:48
So to keep it going....

B.S. in Chem and Zoology
MA in Education
Colodia
29-09-2004, 01:49
I've had only 4 weeks of High School thus far...does that make me a Jr. High or some High School?
Sydenia
29-09-2004, 02:10
I ended up dropping out of school in Grade 8. I did however self-teach myself the basics. Years later, when I was 19, I took a aptitude test which placed me at slightly below 12th grade level. I state this as I feel it is important to note that while I didn't have the benefit of a complete official schooling, I still have most of the knowledge I'd have if I did.
Erastide
29-09-2004, 02:11
I've had only 4 weeks of High School thus far...does that make me a Jr. High or some High School?

Take all you can get. Go for some high school!
Kecibukia
29-09-2004, 02:11
MA in History
Bodies Without Organs
29-09-2004, 02:16
BA joint honours philosophy/scholastic philosophy.
MA continental philosophy.


Side note: currently working in a completely unrelated field - sound engineer.
Josh Dollins
29-09-2004, 02:38
Some highschool as I am still going.

Private schools or homeschooling all my life. Proud of it to!
Trotterstan
29-09-2004, 02:50
BA joint honours philosophy/scholastic philosophy.
MA continental philosophy.


Sounds cool. I am half way into a MA in Political science but my focus is on social and political philosophy/theory (hard to draw a line sometimes) and i did quite a lot of continental philosophy in by BA.
Bodies Without Organs
29-09-2004, 02:52
Sounds cool. I am half way into a MA in Political science but my focus is on social and political philosophy/theory (hard to draw a line sometimes) and i did quite a lot of continental philosophy in by BA.

Great fun.
Less than useless employment wise.
Worth doing anyway.
Matoya
29-09-2004, 02:57
Right now, I'm in 8th grade.
Trotterstan
29-09-2004, 02:59
Great fun.
Less than useless employment wise.
Worth doing anyway.
So very true. My employment prospects are about as good as when i left high school only i am 7 years older with a mid sized student loan.
Suicidal Librarians
29-09-2004, 03:48
I'm in the 8th grade...so I have about a Junior High education.
Lunatic Goofballs
29-09-2004, 04:00
I have a degree in physics. So I can practice physical comedy. :)
Dempublicents
29-09-2004, 04:07
1 year preschool
12 years public school
B.S. in Engineering with a specialty in Biomedical Engineering and minors in Chemistry, Biology, and Mathematics- Mercer University - Macon, GA
Currently working on a Ph.D. in Bioengineering at Georgia Tech - Atlanta, GA

I wasn't going to bother posting, but I figured Bottle did it and I wanna be just like her when I grow up! (Ok, just kidding =)
The Force Majeure
29-09-2004, 04:15
MS Geophysics
MBA Corporate Finance

My goals are to
1) to create a large company and exploit the masses
2) sit back and imitate Mr. Burns: "Excellent"
Thunderland
29-09-2004, 04:49
M.A. in Psychology from Marshall University. I'd go for the Ph.D. but haven't found the need to at this point. Besides, I'd have to travel all the way to Ohio University for that. Though a Psy.D. or Ed.D. may be in the future.
Sino
29-09-2004, 04:55
I'm in my final year of high school and well into the preparations for university (planning to study engineering).
Corennia
29-09-2004, 04:57
12 years of public schooling. Graduated High School with like... a 2.9 :)
I'm starting my second year of college, though its kinda the tail end of the first since I was at a Maritime Academy for a semsester.

Undeclared at the moment, but if I ever get to a 4 year, I'm strongly leaning towards Criminal Justice.
EmoBuddy
29-09-2004, 04:59
MS Geophysics
MBA Corporate Finance

My goals are to
1) to create a large company and exploit the masses
2) sit back and imitate Mr. Burns: "Excellent"

You've got the right idea: instead of being one of those leftist militants who are always blowing up corporations and protesting and stuff, join the 'dark side,' contribute to and exploit society, and get rich in the process.
Dempublicents
29-09-2004, 05:09
I'm in my final year of high school and well into the preparations for university (planning to study engineering).

What kind of engineering?

What university?

[[just being nosy]]
Thunderland
29-09-2004, 05:11
You've got the right idea: instead of being one of those leftist militants who are always blowing up corporations and protesting and stuff, join the 'dark side,' contribute to and exploit society, and get rich in the process.

And thank you for your educational contribution.
Sino
29-09-2004, 05:14
What kind of engineering?

What university?

[[just being nosy]]

Mind your own business (I'm not from America).
Ice Hockey Players
29-09-2004, 05:24
One class left for my BA is political science...and so I listed myself as already graduating, since I have a real job now (sort of) and go to school only one day a week.
Daistallia 2104
29-09-2004, 05:24
BS in Political Science from University of Houston, with a history minor. No official concentration, but mostly political philosophy/theory and international relations.

[quot=Bodies Without Organs]
Sounds cool. I am half way into a MA in Political science but my focus is on social and political philosophy/theory (hard to draw a line sometimes) and i did quite a lot of continental philosophy in by BA.
Great fun.
Less than useless employment wise.
Worth doing anyway.[/quote]

Well, my favorite prof. at UH was Terry Hallmark, who is the manager for Political Risk & Policy Assessment at this consulting firm (http://www.ihsenergy.com/), so there are jobs out there, especially if you add to what you have. Not to mention intelligence work... ;)
Daistallia 2104
29-09-2004, 05:27
It was actually because of you I included Ph.D in progress.

And I thought it was for Steph... :)
Xenophobialand
29-09-2004, 05:32
Polishing off my Baccalaureate (sp?) in philosophy. Need another year after that for my other Baccalaureate in political science.
Incertonia
29-09-2004, 05:39
I have a Master's degree, but in the Fine Arts, it's considered a terminal degree, just like a PhD, and my program was 60 hours (4 years) long, so I feel a little shortchanged by simply saying I have a Master's.

Whatever--I'll get a PhD eventually and probably a couple other Masters degrees in other disciplines. I like school, and I'll keep going to grad school even part time while I work just because I enjoy the academic rigor.
Amyst
29-09-2004, 05:40
In my second year toward a BS in Biological Sciences at the University of Southern California.


12 years public school, 4 years undergrad (majoring in Biology, Philosophy, and Psychology, minoring in...oh, the list is far too long), just began as a PhD student in the biomedical sciences, aimed at either neuroscience, pathology, or pharmacology.

Jesus. 3 majors plus minors all in four years? I didn't know that was possible. Or am I reading it wrong?
Kryozerkia
29-09-2004, 05:41
3rd year college! I'm majoring in computer networking system and technology.
Opal Isle
29-09-2004, 05:57
On my way to EE Bachelors...
Opal Isle
29-09-2004, 05:58
Jesus. 3 majors plus minors all in four years? I didn't know that was possible. Or am I reading it wrong?
and skipped the masters degree to head straight for a PhD.
Incertonia
29-09-2004, 06:02
and skipped the masters degree to head straight for a PhD.
That's not all that unusual. Many PhD programs have a system that allows you to do that. What essentially happens is that you're considered to have a Master's halfway through the program and you have the PhD when you finish defending your dissertation.
Amyst
29-09-2004, 06:03
and skipped the masters degree to head straight for a PhD.

That, I've seen done. A lot of accelerated programs skip straight to a doctorate.
Ariddia
29-09-2004, 06:31
I have a "MaƮtrise d'Anglais". To put it in English, an MA in English Studies. And I'm continuing my postgrad studies.
Cannot think of a name
29-09-2004, 08:40
You all have much better majors than me.



bastards...

I get to have fun and party with hot chicks.....potentially.....

actually, since I lean towards documentary, I just get to hang out with weirdos....
Brennique
29-09-2004, 08:51
i have an aa. i'll have a ba in a semester or so.

i hope to seek my msc in poli sci at uni edinburgh
Cannot think of a name
29-09-2004, 08:58
i have an aa. i'll have a ba in a semester or so.

i hope to seek my msc in poli sci at uni edinburgh
I was hoping that there'd be at least one. Otherwise I wasted an option.
Big Jim P
29-09-2004, 09:05
Meh. :p

*innoceennt ssile :)*
Dalradia
29-09-2004, 09:06
BSc(hons) Natural Science (Chemistry, Earth Science & Physics)
St Aidan's College, University of Durham (UK)
Guinness Extra Cold
29-09-2004, 09:28
B.A Poli Sci
LLM (IHL and HL)
MSS

So that qualifies me to be an assistant manager at Starbucks, middle management at a telemarketing company or a raving alcoholic.

Remember kids, stay in school if you have a letter fetish.
Cannot think of a name
29-09-2004, 09:33
B.A Poli Sci
LLM (IHL and HL)
MSS

So that qualifies me to be an assistant manager at Starbucks, middle management at a telemarketing company or a raving alcoholic.

Remember kids, stay in school if you have a letter fetish.
Abmaphid has been variously described as a wasting disease
of the frontal lobes, and as a wonder drug.

Sorry, I just got finished being a dramaturg for that play (Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?)
Malre
29-09-2004, 09:48
I'm currently attending ITT Tech, going for web design/development. Which would be an associates. A lot of college grads here, I never realized...
Guinness Extra Cold
29-09-2004, 09:52
Abmaphid has been variously described as a wasting disease
of the frontal lobes, and as a wonder drug.

Sorry, I just got finished being a dramaturg for that play (Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?)

I appreciate the literary reference but as you quoted my academic background you are aware the Fine Arts was not one of my qualifications.

In the future, please quote something from Kant or Clausewitz.

Thank you
Cannot think of a name
29-09-2004, 10:07
I appreciate the literary reference but as you quoted my academic background you are aware the Fine Arts was not one of my qualifications.

In the future, please quote something from Kant or Clausewitz.

Thank you
But the character was the same....

ah, never mind.

You quote from your field, I'll quote from mine....;)
Cannot think of a name
29-09-2004, 10:09
I'm currently attending ITT Tech, going for web design/development. Which would be an associates. A lot of college grads here, I never realized...
That's what I was trying to get at. The underage snotty high schooler accusation in debates I thought was for the most part unfounded. While the poll is entirely unscientific (though I did post it in the afternoon on the west coast to catch as many HSers as I could) I think it proves that even though we call each other idiots all the time, we're actually a smart bunch.

Except me, everyone knows what kind of guy gets an arts degree....
Pope Hope
29-09-2004, 10:35
I'm working on a double major in Secondary Education and English, recently added Sociology, and will probably have several minors finished if I don't make up my mind soon (Psych, Childhood Education, Journalism, etc...). :p I took a year off to work on my music and switched majors a few times. Technically I already have an AA in Education, obtained by default through the undergraduate process.

I should just stick with two majors and finish the dang degree...so I can go right back to grad school. :p

I think in most fields these days, unless it's a specified requirement, the subject of the degree matters much less than it used to. As long as you have one, you can find a job. I know a lot of English and Philosophy majors currently employed in jobs that have absolutely nothing to do with their degrees.
Bodies Without Organs
29-09-2004, 11:21
Less than useless employment wise.


... so there are jobs out there, especially if you add to what you have. Not to mention intelligence work... ;)

Yeah, well actually I was referring to the shared education in philosophy between me and Trotterstan, rather than the political science that he studied.

Anybody suspect that those with MA and above are skewing the results here by wanting to boast about their achievements while the less highly formally educated sit back in silence?
Cannot think of a name
29-09-2004, 11:26
Yeah, well actually I was referring to the shared education in philosophy between me and Trotterstan, rather than the political science that he studied.

Anybody suspect that those with MA and above are skewing the results here by wanting to boast about their achievements while the less highly formally educated sit back in silence?

oh yeah, thats where the unscientific thing comes in. Still a good grouping of educated folk. And its public, so you can see whos what, for what its worth.
Von Witzleben
29-09-2004, 11:28
Some college. Seeing as I'm not finished yet. Bachelor in European Studies. Followed by a MA in International Business and Management. If I don't change my mind.
Von Witzleben
29-09-2004, 11:31
I'll keep going to grad school even part time while I work just because I enjoy the academic rigor.
Thats my plan as well. Although for different reasons. :D Young horny student girls. :p
The White Hats
29-09-2004, 11:44
And its public, so you can see whos what, for what its worth.

Nope. I can't. Is it something I'm doing wrong/not doing right?
Bodies Without Organs
29-09-2004, 11:57
Nope. I can't. Is it something I'm doing wrong/not doing right?

Click on the underlined number in the far righthand field for each category.

I believe one of the posters claiming to have a PhD was lying. I could be wrong, but one of the posters listed there posts in a manner which leads me to doubt that they do actually have that Doctorate.
The White Hats
29-09-2004, 12:02
Click on the underlined number in the far righthand field for each category.

I believe one of the posters claiming to have a PhD was lying. I could be wrong, but one of the posters listed there posts in a manner which leads me to doubt that they do actually have that Doctorate.
Ah ... thanks.

Re the last - you think? :p But you can buy your doctorates these days ....
Bottle
29-09-2004, 12:02
I wasn't going to bother posting, but I figured Bottle did it and I wanna be just like her when I grow up! (Ok, just kidding =)
oooh, somebody wants to be like me?! drink three gallons of bad coffee each day, pick up Nature when you want some "light reading," shun all human contact in favor of huddling over an obscure experiment that will never have practical application, and spend at least an hour a day practicing your mad-scientist cackle in front of the mirror. that's pretty much all there is to it :).
Bottle
29-09-2004, 12:07
In my second year toward a BS in Biological Sciences at the University of Southern California.




Jesus. 3 majors plus minors all in four years? I didn't know that was possible. Or am I reading it wrong?
yeah, and oddly enough i could have graduated in 3 years if i took summer classes. the reason i fit it all in was that i had about a year's worth of AP credits when i entered college, and my SAT scores got me excused from all the required stuff (like freshman english, basic math, etc). also, i took three courses that were allowed to count towards two majors simultaneously (one physiology class that counted for biology and psychology, and two philosophy/psychology courses that overlap).

my advice to anybody in high school: take college courses or AP or IB whenever you can. anything that will give you early college credits is GOOD, because it buys you extra time when you get to college and have to be paying for your schooling. instead of taking boring intro classes you can take fun electives, and you might even get to have a light semester once or twice (i.e. you might not have to take a full course load every semester of college).
Naovatrillen
29-09-2004, 12:09
I'm in tenth grade...
Bottle
29-09-2004, 12:09
That's not all that unusual. Many PhD programs have a system that allows you to do that. What essentially happens is that you're considered to have a Master's halfway through the program and you have the PhD when you finish defending your dissertation.
bingo. once my first two years of classes are done (and once i pass my qualifying exams) i have a sort of temporary Master's; however, my thesis work will continue, and once i finish it i will trade in the MA for an upgrade :).
Bodies Without Organs
29-09-2004, 12:10
Re the last - you think? :p

Yeah, I believe we a liar on our hands.
Bottle
29-09-2004, 12:13
Click on the underlined number in the far righthand field for each category.

I believe one of the posters claiming to have a PhD was lying. I could be wrong, but one of the posters listed there posts in a manner which leads me to doubt that they do actually have that Doctorate.
hahahahaha, i know who you are talking about. yeah, at least one person who claims to have a PhD is lying. but that's okay, we all can spot easy fakes like that :).
Von Witzleben
29-09-2004, 13:15
So very true. My employment prospects are about as good as when i left high school only i am 7 years older with a mid sized student loan.
So why did you take that degree then?
Incertonia
29-09-2004, 13:46
You all have much better majors than me.



bastards...

I get to have fun and party with hot chicks.....potentially.....

actually, since I lean towards documentary, I just get to hang out with weirdos....Dude, you're studying filmmaking. Quitcherbitchin. :D
Incertonia
29-09-2004, 13:52
Except me, everyone knows what kind of guy gets an arts degree....I'll tell you something--when I was teaching English while in grad school, Arts students were far from my worst category. They weren't necessarily my best, either--Engineering students generally won that prize simply because they were the most highly motivated--but my worst students, without exception, were Education majors, with Public Relations/Advertising majors second. Even athletes smoked those two groups.
Daistallia 2104
29-09-2004, 14:47
Yeah, well actually I was referring to the shared education in philosophy between me and Trotterstan, rather than the political science that he studied.

Doh. I forgot to put in the most importanmt bit of information - Dr. Hallmark's doctorate was in Political Philosophy, not IR. What I was meaning was that it is possible to find a decent job with a Philosophy PhD. Sorry for my lack of clarity.
Daistallia 2104
29-09-2004, 14:52
I'll tell you something--when I was teaching English while in grad school, Arts students were far from my worst category. They weren't necessarily my best, either--Engineering students generally won that prize simply because they were the most highly motivated--but my worst students, without exception, were Education majors, with Public Relations/Advertising majors second. Even athletes smoked those two groups.

Amen! But the worst I ever met were Fashion Design majors. :(
Bodies Without Organs
29-09-2004, 14:57
Amen! But the worst I ever met were Fashion Design majors. :(

Theology/Divinity in my experience - it seems that the tradition of sending the idiot son into the clergy hasn't completely faded out.
Theweakperish
29-09-2004, 14:58
Have a master's in Finance, with concentration in economics....deciding whether to pursue doctorate or go law.....not many business focused people in here i see......probably why there is such a high level of Marx based thought even taken seriously....interesting perspectives, though
Bodies Without Organs
29-09-2004, 15:01
.....not many business focused people in here i see......probably why there is such a high level of Marx based thought even taken seriously....

The business focused people are probably too busy exploiting and subjugating the proletariat to post here.
Erastide
29-09-2004, 15:05
I'll tell you something--when I was teaching English while in grad school, Arts students were far from my worst category. They weren't necessarily my best, either--Engineering students generally won that prize simply because they were the most highly motivated--but my worst students, without exception, were Education majors, with Public Relations/Advertising majors second. Even athletes smoked those two groups.

Education majors! :mad: I hope you mean the people that are getting that as their Bachelor's, and not all Education people. I would agree if you can't get a major in a regular field it's a little sad, but Education's not bad.

Smart people DO go into education. Maybe not financially very smart, but academically yes.

(this isn't really directed at you Incertonia, just all those people that believe you only go into education because you can't do anything else) ;)
Texan Hotrodders
29-09-2004, 15:06
Theology/Divinity in my experience - it seems that the tradition of sending the idiot son into the clergy hasn't completely faded out.

So true. :( There are some theology majors in my area that I can and have outwitted on various topics like the Theology of the Body. And I'm not even that good. It saddens me. :(
Texan Hotrodders
29-09-2004, 15:12
Education majors! :mad: I hope you mean the people that are getting that as their Bachelor's, and not all Education people. I would agree if you can't get a major in a regular field it's a little sad, but Education's not bad.

Smart people DO go into education. Maybe not financially very smart, but academically yes.

(this isn't really directed at you Incertonia, just all those people that believe you only go into education because you can't do anything else) ;)

I'm an English Education Major, and I kid you not, over half of the people in my education classes don't have a clue. Many of them want to make a difference in the world by teaching poor inner city kids, and most of them are from small rural communities and have never lived in a city. That's stupid. I grew up in a big city, and so I'd to teach in a big city, where I'll be more effective since I'm familiar with the culture. I'm not dumb enough to go to a rural school where things are totally different my first year out of college, but these people are. It astounds me. The one thing I've never been able to comprehend is the depths of human stupidity.
Bodies Without Organs
29-09-2004, 15:13
So true. :( There are some theology majors in my area that I can and have outwitted on various topics like the Theology of the Body. And I'm not even that good. It saddens me. :(

There were some frighteningly intelligent people mixed in with the dullards though, I'll readily admit that.
Texan Hotrodders
29-09-2004, 15:15
There were some frighteningly intelligent people mixed in with the dullards though, I'll readily admit that.

Yeah. The nun at my local parish has a grasp of theology that, and I hesitate to say this, but...is better than the Pope's.
Erastide
29-09-2004, 15:19
I'm an English Education Major, and I kid you not, over half of the people in my education classes don't have a clue. Many of them want to make a difference in the world by teaching poor inner city kids, and most of them are from small rural communities and have never lived in a city. That's stupid. I grew up in a big city, and so I'd to teach in a big city, where I'll be more effective since I'm familiar with the culture. I'm not dumb enough to go to a rural school where things are totally different my first year out of college, but these people are. It astounds me. The one thing I've never been able to comprehend is the depths of human stupidity.

I'm not saying Education people have to be the most intelligent beings to walk the planet, but they hopefully aren't the dumbest. :)

It's weird to actually want to be a teacher when you could be doing what some people would consider "better" work. If I like what I'm doing and I make enough to live the way I want, I'm good.

And if I educate your kids better than some shmuck, why are you looking down on me? :p I can have a great education and want to teach. That's GOOD!
Mervanium
29-09-2004, 15:20
drop out its nop worth it. i made it through garde 12 now i work trades as a journeyman carpenter. The industry is booming...especially scince the baby- boomers are all gonna sart retiring and dying out soon. :headbang:
Texan Hotrodders
29-09-2004, 15:26
I'm not saying Education people have to be the most intelligent beings to walk the planet, but they hopefully aren't the dumbest. :)

It's weird to actually want to be a teacher when you could be doing what some people would consider "better" work. If I like what I'm doing and I make enough to live the way I want, I'm good.

And if I educate your kids better than some shmuck, why are you looking down on me? :p I can have a great education and want to teach. That's GOOD!

I agree. I'm glad people want to be teachers(including you, you noble pauper :) ), and most of them aren't stupid (though there are a few) they're just like most people, they lack common sense. I just wish they and I were better equipped to do it by the people who are supposed to be helping us. Professors often spout a bunch of classroom tips at you but rarely do they tell you how to live as a teacher, which I think is incredibly important.
Daistallia 2104
29-09-2004, 15:43
As far as teaching goes, I think one needs to distinguish teaching as a profession from an education major. I work as a teacher. A few of my co-workers have education degrees or TEFL certificates. They seem to be either the best teachers or some of the worst teachers - very few in between. Just my little non-objective observation. ;)
Erastide
29-09-2004, 16:21
As far as teaching goes, I think one needs to distinguish teaching as a profession from an education major. I work as a teacher. A few of my co-workers have education degrees or TEFL certificates. They seem to be either the best teachers or some of the worst teachers - very few in between. Just my little non-objective observation. ;)

I think teaching is more a mindset than background. As long as you have the basics, the only difference is how you approach teaching.

But back to the subject of this poll. I love that we're more centered around high school and college. Of course... there are plenty of idiots that have graduated high school/college. :p
Daistallia 2104
29-09-2004, 16:37
I think teaching is more a mindset than background. As long as you have the basics, the only difference is how you approach teaching.

Yep.
Cornflake Gremlins
29-09-2004, 17:18
BA joint honours philosophy/scholastic philosophy.
MA continental philosophy.


Side note: currently working in a completely unrelated field - sound engineer.

:O *Bows to The Great BWO* Sound engineer?? That's what I wanna be! I've just started a BA(Hons) in Popular Music and Recording.
Snowboarding Maniacs
29-09-2004, 17:26
Currently in my 3rd year (out of 5) working on a BS in CS :p
In other words, Bachelor's in Computer Science. :)
I go to a fast paced school (we use the quarter system, 10 weeks per quarter + 1 week of exams, as opposed to 15 weeks + 1 exam week for semesters), so it gets pretty intense sometimes, but I'm managing to pull my grades up (didn't do so hot freshman year).
Bodies Without Organs
29-09-2004, 18:18
Sound engineer?? That's what I wanna be! I've just started a BA(Hons) in Popular Music and Recording.

Well, "muppet with a couple of bits of kit scraping by on whatever live work I can get" probably more accurately describes my role, but yeah. As far as knowing what I'm doing goes, it has been a case of being thrown in at the deep end years ago and working from there.
Incertonia
29-09-2004, 22:42
As far as teaching goes, I think one needs to distinguish teaching as a profession from an education major. I work as a teacher. A few of my co-workers have education degrees or TEFL certificates. They seem to be either the best teachers or some of the worst teachers - very few in between. Just my little non-objective observation. ;)My experience--and I'll admit that it's limited on this subject--is that the most intelligent people I've known who wound up being teachers always had a degree in their subject and then got an alternate certification to teach in the public school system. There are exceptions of course--my brother in law most notably--and I'm not saying that the people with the degree in their subject are necessarily better teachers; that's just been my experience.

Again, not trying to insult anyone here. Maybe I just got a bad batch of them or something. :D
Amyst
29-09-2004, 22:48
yeah, and oddly enough i could have graduated in 3 years if i took summer classes. the reason i fit it all in was that i had about a year's worth of AP credits when i entered college, and my SAT scores got me excused from all the required stuff (like freshman english, basic math, etc). also, i took three courses that were allowed to count towards two majors simultaneously (one physiology class that counted for biology and psychology, and two philosophy/psychology courses that overlap).


Bah, AP credits don't do much here and don't exempt one from general education requirements or anything. :-\ Oh well.
Von Witzleben
29-09-2004, 22:53
I'm an English Education Major, and I kid you not, over half of the people in my education classes don't have a clue. Many of them want to make a difference in the world by teaching poor inner city kids, and most of them are from small rural communities and have never lived in a city. That's stupid. I grew up in a big city, and so I'd to teach in a big city, where I'll be more effective since I'm familiar with the culture. I'm not dumb enough to go to a rural school where things are totally different my first year out of college, but these people are. It astounds me. The one thing I've never been able to comprehend is the depths of human stupidity.
But weren't they at a uni in a big city area? So they should have some idea what it's like.
Lubecensis
29-09-2004, 23:08
High school and now on my 2nd year at a teachers college.

DTG
Cannot think of a name
29-09-2004, 23:54
Top down breakdown so far (prone to errors) of majors:
Ph. D.
Bio engineering
Biomedical Science

Masters
Continental Philosophy
Political Science
Geo Physics
Psychology
Fine Arts (Creative Writing, but wrote a kickass poem about a stoned goat)
English
International Business & Management
Finance
Playwrighting
History
Education
Civil and Environmental Engineering
(no overlap...weird)

BA etc.
Philosophy (2)
Bio Engineering
Corporate Finance
Engineering
Undecided
Political Science (6)
Biological Sciences
Computer Network System & Technology
Electrical Engineering
Natural Science
Secondary Education
Sociology
European Studies
English Education
English
Chemistry
Zoology
Film & Digital Media (forgot mine..dammit)
History
Math & Computer Science

AA
Web design/Development

That's a pretty good spread, really. We're all definetly not reading from the same book.
Incertonia
29-09-2004, 23:55
Creative Writing, actually, but Poetry is my speciality. My BA is in English.
Cannot think of a name
30-09-2004, 00:00
Creative Writing, actually, but Poetry is my speciality. My BA is in English.
Thanks man, I'll fix it.
Crossman
01-10-2004, 01:36
In freshman year at Cleveland State University right now. History/Political Science major.
Cannot think of a name
01-10-2004, 01:40
In freshman year at Cleveland State University right now. History/Political Science major.
I'll update the compilation (you end up as '2' people since seperating out double majors is a pain in the ass)
Crossman
01-10-2004, 01:44
I'll update the compilation (you end up as '2' people since seperating out double majors is a pain in the ass)

LOL, okay. That'll take my skitsophrania (mispelled it I know) into acount.
Bodies Without Organs
01-10-2004, 02:01
Anybody know what the good Doctor Enodscopia studied?
Cannot think of a name
01-10-2004, 02:02
Funk? No idea. I don't think s/he said...
Von Witzleben
01-10-2004, 02:03
Anybody know what the good Doctor Enodscopia studied?
He studied? :confused:
Bodies Without Organs
01-10-2004, 02:49
He studied? :confused:


http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=8711

Bottom line.
IDF
01-10-2004, 02:50
HS now, but that is because I'm only 17.
Daistallia 2104
01-10-2004, 16:28
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=8711

Bottom line.

LMFAO

I completely missed that.
Mikitivity
01-10-2004, 16:46
In real life, I have a Masters in Science, Civil and Environmental Engineering (along with a BSCE as well). My area of specialization *was* Drought Physics and Climate Change (aka "Hydrology"), but now I work as a public sector environmental engineer and specialize in water quality modeling, with a focus on forecasting salinity, disinfection by-product formation potentials, and hydrodynamics in esturaries. I am a professional engineer, registered with the State of California. (Legally that means I can add, P.E. to the end of my name.)

When not mucking around with environmental issues, I've been a volunteer poll worker since 1998 and take a genuine interest in elections processes.

:)
Jever Pilsener
01-10-2004, 20:02
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=8711

Bottom line.
Whoa!!! Where did you get that from?
Cannot think of a name
01-10-2004, 20:07
In real life, I have a Masters in Science, Civil and Environmental Engineering (along with a BSCE as well). My area of specialization *was* Drought Physics and Climate Change (aka "Hydrology"), but now I work as a public sector environmental engineer and specialize in water quality modeling, with a focus on forecasting salinity, disinfection by-product formation potentials, and hydrodynamics in esturaries. I am a professional engineer, registered with the State of California. (Legally that means I can add, P.E. to the end of my name.)

When not mucking around with environmental issues, I've been a volunteer poll worker since 1998 and take a genuine interest in elections processes.

:)
Damn, I feel like I should have gotten credits after that....

Except that I have no idea how one forcasts salinity or what that means neccisarily. I'll stick to pointing west and going 'salty.' You're a Californian, though, so your cool.

I'll update.
The Mycon
01-10-2004, 20:40
Majoring in Math & CS, as an undergrad right now.
Because the course list means I cover all the courses, there's something called "scientific computing" which I've been told I could graduate with next year, but I have no clue what the hell that is and therefore no interest.
The Underground City
01-10-2004, 20:42
I think this poll should have an "I am not from the USA" option, since the options are based on the US education system.
Mikitivity
01-10-2004, 20:48
Damn, I feel like I should have gotten credits after that....

Except that I have no idea how one forcasts salinity or what that means neccisarily. I'll stick to pointing west and going 'salty.' You're a Californian, though, so your cool.

I'll update.

For the update, the CE should be in both the BS and MS categories, or just moved up to the MS.

BTW, I love your sig! The Day the Earth Stood Still is among one of the best movies every made. :)

To forecast salinity intrusion in an esturary, you really just need to estimate river flows and downstream stage (i.e. the tide). Salinity is important in drinking water quality because: (1) humans can use water high in salinity, and (2) it promotes the formation of "disinfection by-products", which cause birth defects among other nasty things. :( It is fun stuff if you like chemistry and climate / weather related issues.
Cannot think of a name
04-10-2004, 07:12
For the update, the CE should be in both the BS and MS categories, or just moved up to the MS.

BTW, I love your sig! The Day the Earth Stood Still is among one of the best movies every made. :)

To forecast salinity intrusion in an esturary, you really just need to estimate river flows and downstream stage (i.e. the tide). Salinity is important in drinking water quality because: (1) humans can use water high in salinity, and (2) it promotes the formation of "disinfection by-products", which cause birth defects among other nasty things. :( It is fun stuff if you like chemistry and climate / weather related issues.
My mistake, sorry.

I digs my oldtime sci fi.
Cannot think of a name
04-10-2004, 07:14
I think this poll should have an "I am not from the USA" option, since the options are based on the US education system.
Caps out at ten options. You could just put what is your nations equivilant (which I tried to imply but didn't address directly) and then list what it is in your post. I'd rather have the equivilant than to not count people educated outside the us by dumping them in a generic catagory.
Mikitivity
04-10-2004, 07:47
Caps out at ten options. You could just put what is your nations equivilant (which I tried to imply but didn't address directly) and then list what it is in your post. I'd rather have the equivilant than to not count people educated outside the us by dumping them in a generic catagory.

That is a good idea.

It might be educational for Americans like me if somebody posted what the equivalent education levels for other countries / societies were.