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This the biggest thing people seem to forget in every single religous debate, discussion on race, or national conflict. The fact that everybody is a human being. You may live in China, but you're still human. You may pray to Vishnu, but you're still human. You may live off nuts and berries without a television in sight, but you are still human.

Do not disregard the happenings of a different country because "It's not my problem." Do not ignore the teachings of a different religion because "I don't care what they say." Do not focus on crimes comitted by other races because "They're the ones who do it all." We are all one species.

National boundries are constructs of the imagination. Skin color is an insignifcant gene that is easily exchanged between the different races. Religion is a matter of personal opinion. None of them change what I have said: We are all humans.

Human, Homo sapien, Those Created in Gods Image, whatever you want to call us, we are the same. The next time you condemn all the Muslims as being terrorists, or all black people as petty thugs, or every Chinese citizen a 'Damn Dirty Commie', just think that with a change of childhood upbringing, the smallest shift in your skin pigmentation, or a tiny re-do in your place of birth, you would be one of them. There is no definitive difference between us, no tell tale marker which says "They are different!", there is just random chance and insignificant gene variables.

Humanity is One.

I agree.

Good news:

Your argument is compelling and correct.

Bad News:

The Good News means you are too sophisticated for Nationstates. Your nation is now DEAT.

Can't agree more, but the money guys have a differnt idea then we, working people that care about the others. Iam not a saint and I don't give money everytime when I see a beglar (give them food, wich is better because in big cities, they are exploited) , hell I have my bad sides sides to (a lot) but I try do do my best regardless religions and race.

Good post :)

This the biggest thing people seem to forget in every single religous debate, discussion on race, or national conflict. The fact that everybody is a human being. You may live in China, but you're still human. You may pray to Vishnu, but you're still human. You may live off nuts and berries without a television in sight, but you are still human.

Do not disregard the happenings of a different country because "It's not my problem." Do not ignore the teachings of a different religion because "I don't care what they say." Do not focus on crimes comitted by other races because "They're the ones who do it all." We are all one species.

National boundries are constructs of the imagination. Skin color is an insignifcant gene that is easily exchanged between the different races. Religion is a matter of personal opinion. None of them change what I have said: We are all humans.

Human, Homo sapien, Those Created in Gods Image, whatever you want to call us, we are the same. The next time you condemn all the Muslims as being terrorists, or all black people as petty thugs, or every Chinese citizen a 'Damn Dirty Commie', just think that with a change of childhood upbringing, the smallest shift in your skin pigmentation, or a tiny re-do in your place of birth, you would be one of them. There is no definitive difference between us, no tell tale marker which says "They are different!", there is just random chance and insignificant gene variables.

Humanity is One.

Wonderful! Incredibly noble sentiments, and ones with which I agree wholeheartedly! PREDICTION: the human race will one day encounter a menacing alien race, the result of this encounter will be the realization that we are all part of "the human tribe."

At the risk of being accused of arrogance and self-importance, let me mention that I wrote an essay along these lines ...

http://paradigmassociates.org/ParadigmSpirituality.html

... which draws some rather startling conclusions from recent discoveries in science.

Your argument is compelling and correct. But it is genetically hard-wired into our little brains that we must see those who don't look or act like us (Desmond Morris called them out groups) as the enemy of the clan. Sadly, we can't help ourselves.

This the biggest thing people seem to forget in every single religous debate, discussion on race, or national conflict. The fact that everybody is a human being. You may live in China, but you're still human. You may pray to Vishnu, but you're still human. You may live off nuts and berries without a television in sight, but you are still human.

Do not disregard the happenings of a different country because "It's not my problem." Do not ignore the teachings of a different religion because "I don't care what they say." Do not focus on crimes comitted by other races because "They're the ones who do it all." We are all one species.

National boundries are constructs of the imagination. Skin color is an insignifcant gene that is easily exchanged between the different races. Religion is a matter of personal opinion. None of them change what I have said: We are all humans.

Human, Homo sapien, Those Created in Gods Image, whatever you want to call us, we are the same. The next time you condemn all the Muslims as being terrorists, or all black people as petty thugs, or every Chinese citizen a 'Damn Dirty Commie', just think that with a change of childhood upbringing, the smallest shift in your skin pigmentation, or a tiny re-do in your place of birth, you would be one of them. There is no definitive difference between us, no tell tale marker which says "They are different!", there is just random chance and insignificant gene variables.

Humanity is One.
So you have a problem with non-humans, do you? Specieist!

Wonderful! Incredibly noble sentiments, and ones with which I agree wholeheartedly! PREDICTION: the human race will one day encounter a menacing alien race, the result of this encounter will be the realization that we are all part of "the human tribe."

At the risk of being accused of arrogance and self-importance, let me mention that I wrote an essay along these lines ...

http://paradigmassociates.org/ParadigmSpirituality.html

... which draws some rather startling conclusions from recent discoveries in science.
never miss an oppurtunity to plug some one you protray as yourself do you?

Yes we ARE all humans, but you have to realize religion and race DO make a difference. Well for race it's not so much the genes that make the difference, it's culture.

You have to realize that depending on your personal views and such, some cultures/religious beliefs are inferior to others (which ones depends on your personal PoV). I'm sure that if you came across a nation of cannibals that act worse than our lowest criminals, you wouldn't be so eager to defend them and yell that they are humans just like us.

It's not that we don't realize they aren't human too, it's just that we don't feel that some of their behaviors and such are respectable. Of course if I meet a person of that culture/religion that is an exception, then I will not dislike them for what others of their culture/religion represent. Judge on an individual basis...

You have to realize that depending on your personal views and such, some cultures/religious beliefs are inferior to others (which ones depends on your personal PoV). I'm sure that if you came across a nation of cannibals that act worse than our lowest criminals, you wouldn't be so eager to defend them and yell that they are humans just like us.


However, it would be wrong to say that someone were evil just because they came from that nation.

never miss an oppurtunity to plug some one you protray as yourself do you?

LOL! You're saying I DIDN'T write that? Besides, if I didn't agitate things once in awhile, what the hell would you do with all your spare time? :D

Just for argument's sake, what would it take to convince you that I am excatly who I claim to be? Hmmm?

"Humanity is One."

There are people I just have to distance myself from. There are portions of the human race that make me sick to be human myself, and I wish I could hop into a machine and turn into a different species, any other species.

I don't judge on petty things like skin color or nationality, I judge on actions. And generally, a lot of what I judge on pisses me off.

If you've seen the beheading video of Eugene Armstrong, you'll think otherwise though. There are a few who are humans, but so dangerous to everyone else, that they cannot be considered as being "one of us".

If you've seen the beheading video of Eugene Armstrong, you'll think otherwise though. There are a few who are humans, but so dangerous to everyone else, that they cannot be considered as being "one of us".

Human, yes. Like us, no. Worthy of punishment? Definitely!

"Humanity is One."

There are people I just have to distance myself from. There are portions of the human race that make me sick to be human myself, and I wish I could hop into a machine and turn into a different species, any other species.

I don't judge on petty things like skin color or nationality, I judge on actions. And generally, a lot of what I judge on pisses me off.

LOL! Likewise. Unfortunately, there is no "machine" which can accomplish this feat. Like it or not, we're stuck with this world, and the best we can hope for is an uneasy compromise between the real and the ideal.

If you've seen the beheading video of Eugene Armstrong, you'll think otherwise though. There are a few who are humans, but so dangerous to everyone else, that they cannot be considered as being "one of us".

If you're in Dresden, you must have some historical perspective as to how otherwise "normal" human beings are capable of vicious, atrocious acts. The capacity for great evil lurks in all of us, and that is a part of our common humanity.

Human, yes. Like us, no. Worthy of punishment? Definitely!
Biologically yes. Genetically yes. But inhuman in spirit. However the detached nature of modern war is inhuman aswell. On second thought, any nation that kills other humans or any human that kills another human is not part of humanity. Because humanity is not made to kill each other.

*looks at self*

Klonor is right. I'm human. Damn, I knew there was something wrong with me...

If you're in Dresden, you must have some historical perspective as to how otherwise "normal" human beings are capable of vicious, atrocious acts. The capacity for great evil lurks in all of us, and that is a part of our common humanity.
The evil does not neccessarily have to be followed. The choice to do evil deeds is for each and everyone to make. As part of the big "herd" the killing of other humans, no matter who does it or for whatever reason, is inhuman. Wars as we know them are inhuman and unneccessary as they cause great suffering for those who do the killing or who are on the receiving end of the violence. I think, if - especially in industrialized nations - people would directly see and feel the suffering war causes, we would all think twice before pointing the finger and proclaiming "this is bad" and demanding "justice" by making the lives of people we don't even know miserable.

The atrocities in Nazi Germany or the fire bombings of German cities, were made possible because the victims were "dehumanized". The public eye never got to see the suffering that happened or accepted it because they "were not human". Peer-pressure and propaganda can cause humans to forget our similarity and look at the differences only. This works for both, those who do modern wars and those who do terrorism. Neither has justification in the end.

This works for both, those who do modern wars and those who do terrorism. Neither has justification in the end.

Agreed.