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What if G W Bush had been in charge during the Cuban Missile crisis? Based on his current perfromance, I could only conclude that a pre-emptive strike would have been initiated.

Really sobering thought (hopefully) for any Bush supporters out there.

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Okay, so they don't...sue me.

What if G W Bush had been in charge during the Cuban Missile crisis? Based on his current perfromance, I could only conclude that a pre-emptive strike would have been initiated.

Really sobering thought (hopefully) for any Bush supporters out there.
What if Bush is in fact a mutated amoeba? He sure seems to have the intellect of one.

I think all our genitals would be glowing a lovely shade of green.

Bush vs Kruschev! Now that I'd like to have seen.

Bay of pigs, Vietnam War, even during the Emancipation Proclomation... It really is chilling isn't it?

As a serious evaluation of that prospect, I would say that many of us would not be here today had Bush been president at that time. If anyone here has seen the movie "13 Days," it provides a pretty accurate depiction of how Kennedy's cabinet was trying to corner him into going to war. John Kennedy did everything that his position and his mind could to avoid armed conflict. Had Bush been there, he would have instantly saw a way to get "famous" be starting a great war. A war that would likely end in at least a million deaths on both parts. Also, it would very likely be WW3, as Bush would no doubt have murdured the US' credibility and other nations would see an opportunity to get a shot in at the US as it tried to fight the Soviets.

I'd say more than a million deaths. Watch 'Fog of War'. There were something like 190 missiles already on Cuban soil when the blockade started and Castro recommended to Krushev to launch them in the event of an invasion. It was Krushev that gave Kennedy a way out while maintaining both their respective honour in their own country.
So. yeah. Very Chilling. Bush would have attacked and consigned a big chunk of the States uninhabitable. Meanwhile all the Bush supporters would have been complaining and accusing Kerry of being a wuss and a communist because he wanted to negotiate with Krushev.

What if G W Bush had been in charge during the Cuban Missile crisis? Based on his current perfromance, I could only conclude that a pre-emptive strike would have been initiated.

Really sobering thought (hopefully) for any Bush supporters out there.
NOW I'm really scared.... The world would be a gloomy dark place...

Also known as SIOP is worth studying.... a new book on alternative history (US history) talks about what would have happened....

US loses DC, maybe a couple of other cities (Soviet missiles weren't very good at the time, neither were ours).... plus a task force and about 100,000 men off the Cuban Coast.

SAC sends in about 2000 bombers, most hit their targets..... we essentially destroy the Soviet Union as a biological entity (not to mention as a state)...

and the US is forever condemned as the worst mass murders in the history of mankind..

thank god it didn't happen

It's a good point, but on the other hand what if Jimmy Carter had been in charge during the American Revolution? I guess the colonists would have all been told to lay down their arms and pray for peace ;)

So, a more moderate, with regards to agression, choice than either would be ideal. Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you John Kerry.

What if the moon really was made of cheese.

What if the moon really was made of cheese.
you mean it's not? :eek: :eek: :eek:

Let's not forget the entire mess was Kennedy's fault in the first place for giving Cuban refugees the unofficial go ahead with Bay of Pigs, then refusing to supply support.

Good one, Jack.

you mean it's not? :eek: :eek: :eek:

Ooops! :(

Ooops! :(
I'm gonna sue my physics teacher

Let's not forget the entire mess was Kennedy's fault in the first place for giving Cuban refugees the unofficial go ahead with Bay of Pigs, then refusing to supply support.

Good one, Jack.

Oh, Kinda like when Bush I the unofficial go ahead for the Shi'ites to revolt against Saddam, then refused to give them any of the support he promised?

Good one, George Herbert Walker Bush.

We weren't talking about Bush Sr, but I do agree that it's just as stupid as Jacko's botch of BoP.

What if Jimmy Carter was president during WWII?

What if Margaret Thatcher was prime minister during the American war of independence?

Oh, Kinda like when Bush I the unofficial go ahead for the Shi'ites to revolt against Saddam, then refused to give them any of the support he promised?

Good one, George Herbert Walker Bush.

Of course none of that is as bad as Bush Jr. declaring war and sending troops who were ill-equipped to Iraq - then threatening to veto any funding bill that wasn't god-awful pork barrel spending with no source (thus threatening to leave said troops ill-equipped if the government even thought about being responsible). And then he had the gall to bitch at the few people who tried to be responsible and vote for funding with a source.

Also known as SIOP is worth studying.... a new book on alternative history (US history) talks about what would have happened....

US loses DC, maybe a couple of other cities (Soviet missiles weren't very good at the time, neither were ours).... plus a task force and about 100,000 men off the Cuban Coast.

SAC sends in about 2000 bombers, most hit their targets..... we essentially destroy the Soviet Union as a biological entity (not to mention as a state)...

and the US is forever condemned as the worst mass murders in the history of mankind..

thank god it didn't happen

There are also other things that would have happened.

The Soviet Union would attempt to retaliate against US troops in Western Europe, and in doing so, Western European cities would also be targeted for nuclear strikes by the IRBM's that the Soviets had at the time in Europe, and the Western Nuclear powers would have shot their nukes at the USSR and Eastern Europe, royally screwing the whole of Europe.

In Asia, the Chinese, seeing the USSR wounded would have gone for Siberia just because, they'd also have gone with the North Koreans for South Korea, since the US would be focused elsewhere. The Chinese might also have gone for India, and French Indochina. The US and USSR might both possibly use the some of their last nuclear weapons against the Chinese

The Israelis by this time having a small nuclear arsenal, would have gone after the arabs with several a-bombs, causing mass destruction in the middle east.

And possibly, the

And with the close of this war, a huge portion of humanity would be dead, and mass tracts of land would be unusable, and the survivors (Australia, Africa and South America) would be really really confused, most likely saying (in Australias case) "WTF Mates?!?"

Kennedy did a fine job, he made mistakes, so did G. H. W. Bush, both are remembered differently, and that stems from the way their terms ended, one in a shocking assassination, the other in a defeat to a newcomer from Arkansas.

Meanwhile all the Bush supporters would have been complaining and accusing Kerry of being a wuss and a communist because he wanted to negotiate with Krushev.
It's true; therefore funny.

It doesn't bother me.

IF you noticed the shrub, he fights with people that can't fight in a straight shooting match.

Afghanistana and Iraq get attacked as they have no nukes.
Iran and North Korea get "negotiated" as they have nukes.

For all his saber rattling, I really doubt he would have been eager to pick a fight with the Soviets.