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This whole "democracy" thing in the US is a joke, they critize almost every other country in the world, they still use a voting-system that was setup ages ago and both candidates are members of the same elite society: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/02/60minutes/main576332.shtml

Basically America is simply a third-world country... they should have a look at how things are run in Europe, people who vote here have a real choice.

If I look at Bush / Kerry, one would be "far-right" and the other would be "right"... to be honest I would vote right, but where are all the other parties??? How can a democracy function without other parties to keep the balance.

I was under the impression that there were dozens of other parties as well. Though not as well funded and organised as the main party.

I was under the impression that there were dozens of other parties as well. Though not as well funded and organised as the main party.

The public is only aware of 2 parties and kept "dumb", this almost seems like the way things are run in some of the countries that America critices the most.

Sure... there are other parties, but since everything (including elections) in America revolves around money... they stand no chance because they can't afford as much media attention.

GWB wasn't in Skull and Bones. That's the society for the best and the brightest.

GWB's dad was.

John Kerry was also in Skull and Bones.

"As opposite as George Bush and John Kerry may seem to be, they do share a common secret - one they've shared for decades, and one they will not share with the electorate.

The secret: details of their membership in Skull and Bones, the elite Yale University society whose members include some of the most powerful men of the 20th century."

Both Bush sr. and Bush are members.

This whole "democracy" thing in the US is a joke, they critize almost every other country in the world, they still use a voting-system that was setup ages ago and both candidates are members of the same elite society: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/02/60minutes/main576332.shtml

Basically America is simply a third-world country... they should have a look at how things are run in Europe, people who vote here have a real choice.

If I look at Bush / Kerry, one would be "far-right" and the other would be "right"... to be honest I would vote right, but where are all the other parties??? How can a democracy function without other parties to keep the balance.

This has been rather well known...

If I look at Bush / Kerry, one would be "far-right" and the other would be "right"... to be honest I would vote right, but where are all the other parties??? How can a democracy function without other parties to keep the balance.
Thats because you're looking at it from a point of view biased towards yourself. Towards most Americans its some form of Left/Right...

"As opposite as George Bush and John Kerry may seem to be, they do share a common secret - one they've shared for decades, and one they will not share with the electorate.

The secret: details of their membership in Skull and Bones, the elite Yale University society whose members include some of the most powerful men of the 20th century."

Both Bush sr. and Bush are members.
Is that from that hot chicks book? Whats her name...Alexandra Robbins?

Here's how much secret societies mean. I'm in the same secret society as John Elway. Did that ever get me a tryout for the Broncos? No.

Here's how much secret societies mean. I'm in the same secret society as John Elway. Did that ever get me a tryout for the Broncos? No.

But it probably does get you some nice seats for the game ;)

GWB wasn't in Skull and Bones. That's the society for the best and the brightest.

GWB's dad was.

John Kerry was also in Skull and Bones.
Yes, GWB was in Skull and Bones.
A pity you buy that dumb hick routine.

If I look at Bush / Kerry, one would be "far-right" and the other would be "right"... to be honest I would vote right, but where are all the other parties??? How can a democracy function without other parties to keep the balance.

I thought about it 2.. Im ussually hate the left parties in my country so.. I kinda like there voting system :D its a win win situation for ppl like me.. both of them are gd :D.. its not really a democracy but it works fine.. without left or middle party's...

Who cares what group they were or are members of? In the US the reason you do not here much from the other parties is the dems and reps have been the major players in the senate and congress for so long that if these other parties canidates aren't as popular in the public eye their party decides to drop out of the running. I don't know where they get their info from but it always seems that when a canidate has fair chance they drop off the face of the earth. :headbang: Don't get me wrong I LOVE AMERICA but our government does some messed up stuff. I do agree somewhat with what you have to say I think that we could learn a thing or two from some of the many other countries out there. Our government is so concerned with helping others they have forgotten about helping ourselves. The drug abuse, lack of health care, starving children in our own backyards just to name a few.

I am really rather afraid of where America is going these days. Sorontar, expect me to be joining you in Europe as soon as I can afford it.

I joined Skull and Bones, a secret society, so secret I can't say anything more.

America has never been a democracy, it is a republic.

This whole "democracy" thing in the US is a joke, they critize almost every other country in the world, they still use a voting-system that was setup ages ago and both candidates are members of the same elite society: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/02/60minutes/main576332.shtml

Basically America is simply a third-world country... they should have a look at how things are run in Europe, people who vote here have a real choice.

If I look at Bush / Kerry, one would be "far-right" and the other would be "right"... to be honest I would vote right, but where are all the other parties??? How can a democracy function without other parties to keep the balance.

i thought there were plenty of other parties... havent you heard that Nader was on the ballot?? :( :confused: :(

America has never been a democracy, it is a republic.
Thats the stupidest thing ive ever heard..
America isn't a republic.. its a continent

"July 20, 1992 -- TIME magazine publishes The Birth of the Global Nation by Strobe Talbott, Rhodes Scholar, roommate of Bill Clinton at Oxford University, CFR Director, and Trilateralist.
"The Illuminati (AKA: Bavarian Illuminati – 1776) was founded at (the) University of Ingolstadt. The (Cecil Rhodes) Group (AKA: Rhodes Scholars – 1902) was founded at All Souls College, Oxford University in England, and the "Order" (AKA: Skull and Bones Society – 1832) was founded at Yale University in Connecticut, USA."

The "Order of Skull and Bones" was once called the "Brotherhood of Death." "

"Bones described the walls of the tomb as "adorned with pictures of the founders of Bones at Yale and of the members of the Society in Germany when the Chapter was established here in 1832." Sutton asked: "Think about this: "Skull and Bones" is not American at all. It is a branch of a FOREIGN secret society." Sutton concluded that Skull and Bones "is a clear and obvious threat to constitutional freedom in the United States. Its secrecy, power and use of influence is greater by far than the masons, or any other semi-secret mutual or fraternal organization." NOTE: Secret Societies of importance are either interwoven with or in some manner related to Freemasonry. "

"Famous members: George Washington, Franklin Roosevelt, Henry Kissinger, David Rockefeller, Benjamin Franklin, George W. and George H. Bush, Bill Clinton, Winston Churchill, Joseph Stalin, and hundreds of others."

" Skull and Bones Society – Founded in 1832 at Yale University in New Haven Connecticut. Membership includes George H. W. Bush, William Jefferson Clinton, and George W. Bush. Associated organizations: Rhodes Scholars of Oxford University, England (Tony Blair) and The originating organization for these groups The Illuminati that was founded at (the) University of Ingolstadt in Germany. "
Look up how many presidents have been in Skulls and Bones or an Affiliate orginazation.More Bones members:
Sen. Prescott Bush (father to George H.W.)
President George HW Bush
President George W Bush
President William H. Taft
Sen. John Kerry
Sen. David Boren
Sen. John Heinz
Author Archibald McLeish
Rhodes scholar Robert McCallum
Super-wealthy venture capitalist William Draper
DCI Richard Helms
William F. Buckley
SEC chairman William Donaldson
TIME magazine publisher Henry Luce
W. Averell Harriman
Antony C. Sutton, 1986, page 5-6, states: "Those on the inside know it as The Order. Others have known it for more than 150 years as Chapter 322 of a German secret society. More formally, for legal purposes, The Order was incorporated as The Russell Trust in 1856. It was also once known as the "Brotherhood of Death". Those who make light of it, or want to make fun of it, call it 'Skull & Bones', or just plain 'Bones'.
The Russell Trust i heard it said on NPR thursday or friday that the Russell Trust was the 5th wealthiest Corporate entity in the World.



Masonic Members:
George Washington, Gen. Douglas McArthur, Teddy Roosevelt, Winston Churchill,J. Edgar Hoover, Benjamin Franklin ...
http://www.durham.net/~cedar/famous.html
In the link above you will note a masonic seal stamping an approval of the list to be accurate.
While I cant right click the list, It is totally fair to say that U.S. history is really Masonic History.

Thats the stupidest thing ive ever heard..
America isn't a republic.. its a continent

LOL, I was just about to reply... I guess you beat me to it ;)

Somehow I was reminded of this Monty Python scene where someone stands up and shouts "WE ARE ALL INDIVIDUALS" after a short pause one guy replies "I'M NOT!!" :)

"July 20, 1992 -- TIME magazine publishes The Birth of the Global Nation by Strobe Talbott, Rhodes Scholar, roommate of Bill Clinton at Oxford University, CFR Director, and Trilateralist.
"The Illuminati (AKA: Bavarian Illuminati – 1776) was founded at (the) University of Ingolstadt. The (Cecil Rhodes) Group (AKA: Rhodes Scholars – 1902) was founded at All Souls College, Oxford University in England, and the "Order" (AKA: Skull and Bones Society – 1832) was founded at Yale University in Connecticut, USA."

The "Order of Skull and Bones" was once called the "Brotherhood of Death." "

"Bones described the walls of the tomb as "adorned with pictures of the founders of Bones at Yale and of the members of the Society in Germany when the Chapter was established here in 1832." Sutton asked: "Think about this: "Skull and Bones" is not American at all. It is a branch of a FOREIGN secret society." Sutton concluded that Skull and Bones "is a clear and obvious threat to constitutional freedom in the United States. Its secrecy, power and use of influence is greater by far than the masons, or any other semi-secret mutual or fraternal organization." NOTE: Secret Societies of importance are either interwoven with or in some manner related to Freemasonry. "

"Famous members: George Washington, Franklin Roosevelt, Henry Kissinger, David Rockefeller, Benjamin Franklin, George W. and George H. Bush, Bill Clinton, Winston Churchill, Joseph Stalin, and hundreds of others."

" Skull and Bones Society – Founded in 1832 at Yale University in New Haven Connecticut. Membership includes George H. W. Bush, William Jefferson Clinton, and George W. Bush. Associated organizations: Rhodes Scholars of Oxford University, England (Tony Blair) and The originating organization for these groups The Illuminati that was founded at (the) University of Ingolstadt in Germany. "
Look up how many presidents have been in Skulls and Bones or an Affiliate orginazation.More Bones members:
Sen. Prescott Bush (father to George H.W.)
President George HW Bush
President George W Bush
President William H. Taft
Sen. John Kerry
Sen. David Boren
Sen. John Heinz
Author Archibald McLeish
Rhodes scholar Robert McCallum
Super-wealthy venture capitalist William Draper
DCI Richard Helms
William F. Buckley
SEC chairman William Donaldson
TIME magazine publisher Henry Luce
W. Averell Harriman

The Russell Trust i heard it said on NPR thursday or friday that the Russell Trust was the 5th wealthiest Corporate entity in the World.



Masonic Members:
George Washington, Gen. Douglas McArthur, Teddy Roosevelt, Winston Churchill,J. Edgar Hoover, Benjamin Franklin ...
http://www.durham.net/~cedar/famous.html
In the link above you will note a masonic seal stamping an approval of the list to be accurate.
While I cant right click the list, It is totally fair to say that U.S. history is really Masonic History.
I read somewhere they were modeled after the Bavarian Illuminati founded by Adam Weishaupt.
Does anyone else find the resemblance between the Skull& Bones symbol and that of the SS odd?

But it probably does get you some nice seats for the game ;)
I wish. I'm a student at Stanford, where Elway went to college and belonged to that secret society and it doesn't even get me into those games.

I wish. I'm a student at Stanford, where Elway went to college and belonged to that secret society and it doesn't even get me into those games.

I guess you belong to the wrong secret society ;)

For example: President Bush has tapped five fellow Bonesmen to join his administration. Most recently, he selected William Donaldson, Skull and Bones 1953, the head of the Securities and Exchange Commission. Like the President, he's taken the Bones oath of silence.

i thought there were plenty of other parties... havent you heard that Nader was on the ballot??

Feh. In some states. And he had to fight hard to even get on those.

Feh. In some states. And he had to fight hard to even get on those.

And every vote for Nader is a vote for Bush... so people will think twice before voting for him.