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An intersting fact caught my attention. More and more students at my school are wearing metal band t-shirts... All the biggies (in terms of relative popularity)... Iron Maiden, Megadeath, Metallica, Slayer, Children of Bodom, Pantera... and etc. Are these signs of things to come? Is this a good sign? Or is this a sign that such a great music genre will be raped by the mainstream public? Will an embarassing cult form that will resemble the "neo-punk" and "neo-goth" culture of today?

Personally I'm afraid that this is bad news... That a second coming of metal would be nothing but perversion of an old and mighty genre...

The main problem is its not even nu-metal anymore... this is actual metal... and if it makes it back into the mainstream... WHAY WILL HAPPEN!? I'm scared for the future of metal.

I'm sure that whatever happens in the mainstream, there will still be good stuff being made too.

Just do what I do as an adolescent, take it as it comes. Like what you like and dislike what you like. It allows you to have a broader mind, I discovered.

Well its not like I'm gonna say I don't think Iron Maiden is the best metal band ever... (which I do) just because a lot of peopel start listening to them...

What I'm worried about is that the market will call for easier metal... a sort half perverted metal half nu-metal combo that will be churned out by the hundreds ruining the image of metal...

Although of course there is always the bright side... in that one could be more easily introduced into the metal genre... eventually going back to the roots of it all.

Metal has already been compromised, its values are debased.

The chances of a genuine band becoming as big as Metallica did (before they lost their soul) is minimal.

Metal & quality rock music will continue, however. The bands mentioned (Maiden, Met, Megadeth, SLayer,etc.) are popular because as the younger generation get into pop-metal (Limp, Linkin, HIM, etc.) they cannot help but look better to an age when artistic integrity existed.

Nu-metal is just a sign of the age - pop-culture. Too many people were holding out for heavy guitars, so the labels invented nu-metal.

However metal will continue underground,as it always has. The problem with boy bands posing as metal bands (eg. Linkin Park, Lost Prophets) is that it is so obvious, it is laughable (unfortunately I saw both at the Download festival this year). Also, it is obvious because it is against everything the genre stands for. The best metal has always been underground, it still is, and it will healthily ( & thankfully) continue to be so.

I saw a cassete titled "Metal Mania" with Michael Bolton on it, metal's fucked.

Metal & quality rock music will continue, however. The bands mentioned (Maiden, Met, Megadeth, SLayer,etc.) are popular because as the younger generation get into pop-metal (Limp, Linkin, HIM, etc.) they cannot help but look better to an age when artistic integrity existed.



Yeah... but there were a tiny number of people who actually looked back at that age, not too long ago... Now its becoming... a lot more spread out... and commercials on tv more and more utilize actually metal... (ie. the whopperheads commercial... or the emerlad nuts commercials... (extreme nurses love emerald nuts)).

Thus it seems to be a strange shift...

And yes I am of the younger generation too... and yes I have only gotten into metal possibly just about a year to a year and a half ago...

Either we're getting a lot of converts... or somethings going to go terribly wrong...

But then again think about it optimistically! To have actual true metal (whatever the genre, be it heavy, death, speed, thrash or power) played as often as they play those little background tunes in every commercial...

Wow... imagine for example a tupperware "gladware" commercial... with quality thrash blaring out that annoying woman... who advertises that gladware stuff... Oh that would be such a utopia for the mass media...

Will an embarassing cult form that will resemble the "neo-punk" and "neo-goth" culture of today?


I pray this will not happen... please lord no!!!!!!!!!! :gundge:

Children of Bodom are one of the worst bands i have ever heard.
What we need are the rise of bands like Agoraphobic Nosebleed. They are the true metal gods.

yes I to think that this bunch of people trying to look good and cool by using and sucking the soul out of metal should be stoped or at least shown that they should listen to what htey like not what there friends like.

I my self listen to old metallica and iron madien and allot of the new ones like System of a down and marilyn manson but my friends don't really listen to much who I really hate is a band called "the darkness" they are sucking the soul out of all that is good
:sniper: and :mp5: <--- to the darkness

yes I to think that this bunch of people trying to look good and cool by using and sucking the soul out of metal should be stoped or at least shown that they should listen to what htey like not what there friends like.

I my self listen to old metallica and iron madien and allot of the new ones like System of a down and marilyn manson but my friends don't really listen to much who I really hate is a band called "the darkness" they are sucking the soul out of all that is good
:sniper: and :mp5: <--- to the darkness
SATAN! SATAN!

Children of Bodom are one of the worst bands i have ever heard.
What we need are the rise of bands like Agoraphobic Nosebleed. They are the true metal gods.
Oh come on Children of Bodom have a complex melody in most of their songs... in other words its good! Come on...

And I have never heard of Agoraphobic Nosebleed... But if you want to get into championing obscure bands, I will champion the band I usually champion... Bronx Casket Company... They so kick ass.

satan! Satan!
No! Stan! Stan!

No! Stan! Stan!
SATIN!

The same thing that happened to punk will happen :(

With punk, real punk music is all but gone and it's been replaced by shitty pop-punk such as good charlotte, (new) blink 182, sum41, etc. etc.

I imagine there will be pop-metal.... which will totally suck, but everyone will think it's metal because that's what MTV will portray it as.

An intersting fact caught my attention. More and more students at my school are wearing metal band t-shirts... All the biggies (in terms of relative popularity)... Iron Maiden, Megadeath, Metallica, Slayer, Children of Bodom, Pantera... and etc. Are these signs of things to come? Is this a good sign? Or is this a sign that such a great music genre will be raped by the mainstream public? Will an embarassing cult form that will resemble the "neo-punk" and "neo-goth" culture of today?

Personally I'm afraid that this is bad news... That a second coming of metal would be nothing but perversion of an old and mighty genre...

The main problem is its not even nu-metal anymore... this is actual metal... and if it makes it back into the mainstream... WHAY WILL HAPPEN!? I'm scared for the future of metal.

Hahahaha, thats just the new "in" thing to do. Like shopping at Hot Topic, listening to "classic" bands (The Beatles, Ramones, etc.), or wearing spikey metal wrist bands. Eventually it'll die out like so many other fads and will be buried under the reufse of past decades in the great popular culture landfill.

I don't know, I think there will be bad stuff happening, but at the same time, I think metal's "true" following will also increase. It is becoming more popular here as well, but here it is more the extreme end of the genre (black metal, death metal) etc. that is more visible now.

No.

Children of Bodom are one of the worst bands i have ever heard.
What? I would say that they blandly offer extremely cheap thrills, but they're not an awful band. Most of their fans are trolls who only judge music by how fast and heavy it is.

What? I would say that they blandly offer extremely cheap thrills, but they're not an awful band. Most of their fans are trolls who only judge music by how fast and heavy it is.

If that was the case they'd all be listening to Dying Fetus or Kataklysm rather than Children of Boredom. They're about as heavy as Green Day...

There will ALWAYS be great metal churning and bubbling in the underground. If mainstream kids are finally listening to real metal like Slayer, Pantera, and Maiden I say good for them. They deserve to listen to quality music like anybody else does. And of course some corporate stuffed suit is gonna take this as a sign to try to co-opt metal (they've tried it plenty of times in the past), but the great stuff will always be made by ugly, impoverished, unemployable, antisocial misfits creating brilliant art in somebody's garage.

SATIN!
Glossy!

Glossy!
No! Shiny

There will ALWAYS be great metal churning and bubbling in the underground. If mainstream kids are finally listening to real metal like Slayer, Pantera, and Maiden I say good for them. They deserve to listen to quality music like anybody else does. And of course some corporate stuffed suit is gonna take this as a sign to try to co-opt metal (they've tried it plenty of times in the past), but the great stuff will always be made by ugly, impoverished, unemployable, antisocial misfits creating brilliant art in somebody's garage.

Basically, metal fans as a collective entity aren't as dumb as pop fans, and don't generally fall for marketing over substance, but there have been a few exceptions, like Slipknot.