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here's your chance to win a genuine dubya action figure in full "mission accomplished!!1!" flightsuit. all you have to do is enter the sweepstakes and choose the correct date that the bush administration will unveil their 'stunning' capture of obl.

or at least go vote in their poll. personally, i think it will be somewhere between oct 20th and 28th.

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Sorry, but Tootsie (oops Theresa) already came up with this thread. Nice try.

I'm going for last week of October. That's the 2nd/3rd week of Ramadan I think.

Sorry, but Tootsie (oops Theresa) already came up with this thread. Nice try.

who did what now?

who did what now?

Theresa Heinz-Kerry said this was going to happen.

Theresa Heinz-Kerry said this was going to happen.

oh. well, so did everybody. about a year ago. maybe more. on this very forum no less.

i remember first saying it back in 2002 sometime.

im thinking the friday before election day.
just enough time for the excitement to build, not enough time for the "less perceptive" people to begin to question the timing of it all.

They would have brought him out by now, if they had him.

Otherwise, it's too obvious, too politically motivated...it would destroy the president, not help him.

I trust the President to announce the capture immediately.

I trust the President to announce the capture immediately.

I trust the president to do what is necessary to ensure he is re-elected.

On another conspiratal note, is it true Reagan's men made a deal with the Iranians to not release the hostages until after Reagan had won the presidency?

As well, do you think bin Laden will ever be captured?

A few notes from me.

1. It would be political suicide for Bush to be withholding news of Osama's capture from the American people in order to win another election for the reasons below:
a.) Osama hates Americans, he is not just going to allow himself to be captured and held and play along with Bush's political maneuverings.
b.) He would use the liberal media as a foundation for freedom, claiming he was held secretly and maltreated in order to coincide with the election.
c.) Something would've leaked, look at the sexual humiliation pictures taken by US troops.
d.) Take it how you will, Osama is not a dumbass.

2. We've allowed him to slip through our fingers so many times in the past. This is not the first time he's been hunted by the gov't. All through the 80's Osama made a name for himself, he was just the lesser of two evils so he was a pawn of the US gov't who equipped him with weapons and training covertly. Then throughout the 90's, when he started to make a huge name for himself and Al Quaida (sp.) the CIA kept tabs on him throughout the middle east and had more than enough time to nab him. They want him, and even as it stands now, it's close enough to election time that it will still allow Bush to use it politically. If they knew where he was (they can't even tell you if he's alive or dead) they would've gone after him with maximum force.

3. Dumbest thread ever. Liberals suck. (That's my childish end so you can freely dismiss any points I've made by calling me immature.)

3. Dumbest thread ever. Liberals suck.

tain't no liberal that wrote this here thread.

In all honesty, I think he's more than likely dead by now. How is he going to hook up a dialysis machine in a cave? And before you say it, no, I don't think he could have an advanced technology underground lab.

And before you say it, no, I don't think he could have an advanced technology underground lab.

quick robin, to the terror-cave!

He's to smart to be cought.

Come, Osama, let's race to the dialysis clinic. We haven't a moment to spare.

Yeah he is probably already dead, I don't put too much trust in kidney transplants done in caves, with all of that bat poop and dust. Besides someone would have given him up for that bounty by now. Sure loyalty is one thing as is religious beliefs, but come on, one person would pull a Judas and collect that 25 million dollar payoff. He may even be buried under millions of tons of rock.

Indeed, let us not rule out the "Act of God". Oh, the irony!

He's to smart to be cought.
by the likes of george bush anyway "ben ladin maybe trying to get nukyuler weapons, i dont really know, dont really care. like that saying in texas, fool me once, shame on me, foll me twice, cant ever get fooled again!"

They'll never catch him. He's a myth, like Belgium.

They'll never catch him. He's a myth, like Belgium.

"...and on the car door handle, there was a belgium! aaaaahhh!"

I wonder if Osama has like super powers or something.

I wonder if Osama has like super powers or something.

no, i'm pretty sure its mostly just him and his utility belt

Liberals suck.

We're all hoping you realising you live in a nation founded as a liberal democracy, even if liberal is currently a bad word in the US.

ps. Liberal (in a political context) actually means "open minded, not prejudiced."; "for general broadening of the mind"; "favouring individual liberty, free trade and moderate political reform" [Oxford English Dictionary]

Which part of "liberal" do you object to?

Remember when Saddam was captured and people started futzing about how the Democrats didn't have anything to run on? As if thier platform was based soley on the "Can't capture Saddam." That actually stuck for a week or so, even though it was ridiculous. You could argue that that was a test case to see how long something like that would stick or how long it would take before anyone actually asked a question.

What bin Laden would say is largely irrelivant (when did Saddam get to make statements?)

As far as the reward goes, western money and influence is a lot of what pisses these people off in the first place, which is not to say that some live in contradiction of that or would 'sell out,' but it's not going to have the same effect as if, say, I had a price on my head. You bastards would sell me out in a second.....

In all honesty, I think he's more than likely dead by now. How is he going to hook up a dialysis machine in a cave? And before you say it, no, I don't think he could have an advanced technology underground lab.

He IS dead. Before Afghanistan he was on Al Jazeera every other day with a new video. I haven't seen one in a VERY long time. Unless someone can show me a recent video with an accurate date stamp, you'll not change my mind.

Not to mention it could very well be political suicide if Bush brings him out now, what with all these conspiracy theories floating around.

So where's Osama Bin Hidin?

bump

I wonder if Osama has like super powers or something.
Of course he does. His ally is the force.

Of course he does. His ally is the force.

If he trimmed his beard a bit, he would look like Count Dooku from Star Wars Attack of the Clones. I would pay to see him doing the finger-lightning thing. I bet his eyes glow in the dark.

Actually it would be great if Bush captured him,
he would win in a landslide.

The Part of liberal that I object to is
the Pro- Vietnam communist or just dictador government
The Pro- President Dictador Fidel Castro for life
The pro - Sandinista Communist government
like Kerrey
Thats why I can not vote for Kerry.

How would people that dont like Bush like to live
in a nation with President evil Dictador for life Bush.
loose or win he will be gone after 2008.

The People that say that about Bush
dont know what a real evil Dictador is.
I happen to be an american citizen and
a native Cuban like thats any secret in Nation States.
and I dont care what you all think, I know I am right
on this statement.

...

The Part of liberal that I object to is
the Pro- Vietnam communist or just dictador government
The Pro- President Dictador Fidel Castro for life
The pro - Sandinista Communist government
...

Those are views which some people may hold, but are not "part of liberal"

Liberal means:
(a)"open minded, not prejudiced.";
(b)"for general broadening of the mind"; and
(c)"favouring individual liberty, free trade and moderate political reform"

So, read it again and ask yourself if you agree with (a), (b) & (c).

If you do, then, bad news my friend, you're a liberal.

http://www.osamasweepstakes.com/

here's your chance to win a genuine dubya action figure in full "mission accomplished!!1!" flightsuit. all you have to do is enter the sweepstakes and choose the correct date that the bush administration will unveil their 'stunning' capture of obl.

or at least go vote in their poll. personally, i think it will be somewhere between oct 20th and 28th.

Thanks! I can put it right up there on the shelf next to my "Reporting for duty" John Kerry doll. BTW ... Tresa Heinz/Kerry came up with this hair-brained idea before you did! Now there's a great, next first lady for ya ... got problems with that pesky national debt? Hell, just have Teresa pay it off!

A few notes from me.

1. It would be political suicide for Bush to be withholding news of Osama's capture from the American people in order to win another election for the reasons below:
a.) Osama hates Americans, he is not just going to allow himself to be captured and held and play along with Bush's political maneuverings.
b.) He would use the liberal media as a foundation for freedom, claiming he was held secretly and maltreated in order to coincide with the election.
c.) Something would've leaked, look at the sexual humiliation pictures taken by US troops.
d.) Take it how you will, Osama is not a dumbass.

2. We've allowed him to slip through our fingers so many times in the past. This is not the first time he's been hunted by the gov't. All through the 80's Osama made a name for himself, he was just the lesser of two evils so he was a pawn of the US gov't who equipped him with weapons and training covertly. Then throughout the 90's, when he started to make a huge name for himself and Al Quaida (sp.) the CIA kept tabs on him throughout the middle east and had more than enough time to nab him. They want him, and even as it stands now, it's close enough to election time that it will still allow Bush to use it politically. If they knew where he was (they can't even tell you if he's alive or dead) they would've gone after him with maximum force.

3. Dumbest thread ever. Liberals suck. (That's my childish end so you can freely dismiss any points I've made by calling me immature.)
You don't pay good attention or you like to say deliberately ignorant things for play here, but you obviously reflect a genuine lack of understanding of what "maximum force" means.
If that were anywhere NEAR true would "we" really have invaded Iraq and kept that BS going all this time while near nothing gets said about Afghanistan anymore, except for the occasional death? Really. Bush has made it pointedly clear that the guy behind the murder of those people in the towers is not anywhere near a priority as it is to make sure a country that didn't attack us first and didn't really have any measurable means to, Iraq, becomes a ... well, what it is now, and you're free to define that to whatever you want to call it, accepting of course whatever criticism you're due if you brandish more intellectual prowess as you have above.

Wow, Straughn, that was extremely intelligent and forward-thinking! Wonder why more people haven't caused a stir like this?

And as for the topic-at-hand, Osama is too smart to get caught. And he isn't dead, he just wants people to think that.

Interesting.

I agree. It is interesting. Furthermore, I believe Refused Party Program to be the pinnacle of manliness.

I agree. It is interesting. Furthermore, I believe Refused Party Program to be the pinnacle of manliness.
I though you were the walnut?

I though you were the walnut?

The Walnut of Ultimate Manliness?

The Walnut of Ultimate Manliness?
yeah that's it

yeah that's it

Nah. I'm the Acorn of Ultimate Manliness.

You sure? Because I heard some governor in LA or something was that?

You sure? Because I heard some governor in LA or something was that?

Jealous imposters.

Jealous imposters.
I see.

Oh yeah. Google says:"Arnold Schwarzenegger did not win the popular vote..." Something like that. Really confusing shit.

Don't ya just love the way American's post in forums, acting as if all viewers are American or at the least, that only an American perspective counts?

Perhaps you need a new option, something along the lines of "I hope not, US bomb would be dropping on us within the month if we did!"

This ain't no friggin' bump, guv.

http://www.osamasweepstakes.com/

here's your chance to win a genuine dubya action figure in full "mission accomplished!!1!" flightsuit. all you have to do is enter the sweepstakes and choose the correct date that the bush administration will unveil their 'stunning' capture of obl.

or at least go vote in their poll. personally, i think it will be somewhere between oct 20th and 28th.
It won't happen before the election. He is Bush's justification for re-election/appointment/whatever.

Up, you big husky. Up, up!

I voted in the first weeks of October . . . ah crap, it's almost november.

I'm still in the running!

I should state for the record that Bush could single-handedly pull Osama out of hiding and personally drag him by his beard to the streets of the US and I still wouldn't vote for him. Not capturing Osama is one small, almost inconsiquential, piece in the larger "Bush is not a good president and doesn't deserve to keep his job" puzzle.

it looks as though we have a few people out of the running, but its still almost anybody's game. stay tuned folks!

HELLLOOO!!

Osama is dead and has been for some time..A little reported fact about osama is that he suffers from serious kidney problems. His last confirmed sighting was in 2001 (beofre 9/11) when he was in a Dubai hospital getting dialysis treatment. Supposedly CIA agents met him there and had "talks".

Since then he has not being seen or heard. well, apart from those audio "recordings" whose authenticity has been dismissed by any reputable sound lab.

So unless the might of the US military is unable to source a cave in Afghanistan with a constant power supply to feed the dialysis machines that Osama reputably needs 3/4 times a week, HE'S DEAD!!!

Sound too out-there for ya? Just enter the words "osama" and "kidney" into any search engine, and git reading any news source other then faux news or ABC..

The myth of Osama is needed to perpetuate the fear element required to justify current events....

Did you ever hear the term "Al-Queda" used before 9/11?
Thats because it doesn't show up ANYWHERE until the US decided to prosecute osama in his absense under anti-mafia laws, but couldn't because under these laws, they needed to show that he was head of an organsiation, and thus the term Al-queda was born, sending osama from a little known boogey man to head of a mysteriously sophisticated organisation of splinter cells etc...

Note the format..watch it now and in the future...now that osama is off the scence, watch as the NEW stars of the media move up the charts...public enemy No. 1 in Iraq was Al-Sadr, now its Zarqawi...
Good article about just that here:

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/FJ15Ak02.html

I voted last week of October. Even if he's dead, they'll dress the first lady up as him and announce the capture.

I voted last week of October. Even if he's dead, they'll dress the first lady up as him and announce the capture.
The last week of October comes nigh!

The Part of liberal that I object to is
the Pro- Vietnam communist or just dictador government
The Pro- President Dictador Fidel Castro for life
The pro - Sandinista Communist government
like Kerrey
Thats why I can not vote for Kerry.
Yeah, Liberal Dictatorship. :rolleyes: Do you realise how stupid that sounds? Liberalism is the opposite of dictatorships.

I'm still in the running!

I should state for the record that Bush could single-handedly pull Osama out of hiding and personally drag him by his beard to the streets of the US and I still wouldn't vote for him. Not capturing Osama is one small, almost inconsiquential, piece in the larger "Bush is not a good president and doesn't deserve to keep his job" puzzle.
Maybe the thread ought to be changed to ask "What October Surprise will Bush pull out of his ass to save his job?"

How about a midnight flight to Iraq to visit the troops? Bin Laden is a possibility, although a lesser al Qaeda person like al Zarqawi might do the trick. I don't know.

But after that PIPA study I started a thread on a couple of days ago, I'm almost convinced that Bush could tell his supporters that he was the Lord Jesus Christ, pop up with some CGI footage that has him walking on water and healing the sick, and they'd believe it.

But after that PIPA study I started a thread on a couple of days ago, I'm almost convinced that Bush could tell his supporters that he was the Lord Jesus Christ, pop up with some CGI footage that has him walking on water and healing the sick, and they'd believe it.

now that would be an october surprise. and its true, they'd eat it up.

We're all hoping you realising you live in a nation founded as a liberal democracy, even if liberal is currently a bad word in the US.

ps. Liberal (in a political context) actually means "open minded, not prejudiced."; "for general broadening of the mind"; "favouring individual liberty, free trade and moderate political reform" [Oxford English Dictionary]

Which part of "liberal" do you object to?

i object to socialist, ultra liberal, aclu,pc terrorists who have hijacked the liberal party for their own extremists causes...thanx

Yeah, Liberal Dictatorship. :rolleyes: Do you realise how stupid that sounds? Liberalism is the opposite of dictatorships.

is communism not the ultra-left..name me a communist country that is not a dictatorship

Maybe the thread ought to be changed to ask "What October Surprise will Bush pull out of his ass to save his job?"

How about a midnight flight to Iraq to visit the troops? Bin Laden is a possibility, although a lesser al Qaeda person like al Zarqawi might do the trick. I don't know.

But after that PIPA study I started a thread on a couple of days ago, I'm almost convinced that Bush could tell his supporters that he was the Lord Jesus Christ, pop up with some CGI footage that has him walking on water and healing the sick, and they'd believe it.
i think if Kerry were to pop up toting a shotgun talking about hunting then all liberals would believe he wasn't out to take a our 2nd ammendmant rights...oh wait you already have..

But after that PIPA study I started a thread on a couple of days ago, I'm almost convinced that Bush could tell his supporters that he was the Lord Jesus Christ, pop up with some CGI footage that has him walking on water and healing the sick, and they'd believe it.
you give them too much credit, they wouldnt even need the footage

is communism not the ultra-left..name me a communist country that is not a dictatorship

this isn't exactly the best thread to discuss your confusion about the meanings of words

is communism not the ultra-left..name me a communist country that is not a dictatorship
name me a country that is really communist