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Best Drummer - any categorical ref is fine.

Lascivious Maximus
23-09-2004, 21:30
Who is the worlds best??

ill start with John Bonham, Ron Bushy, Lombardo, Ulrich...

this is going to go on forever.
and im sure its been done to death, but i wanted to see it again anew.

oh, and of course - Animal from the muppets.
Potsmokerage
23-09-2004, 22:09
Travis Barker from Blink182 kicks major ass.... have you heard any of his solo's?
Lascivious Maximus
23-09-2004, 22:12
Travis Barker from Blink182 kicks major ass.... have you heard any of his solo's?

s'alright, bonhams better for the skill aspect though.

listen to Bonzo's Monreaux (moby Dick) live, and youll understand - the kick drums are friggin super-human - the guy has to be an alien.
Rohan-Gondor-Hobbiton
23-09-2004, 22:14
Curtis Sands from Lined-Out. It's a local band, but he's really awesome!!
Beautiful Lisa
23-09-2004, 22:17
Take at look at drummerworld,loads and loads of superb drummers.It all comes down to personal taste really. I like Jon Hiseman, Carl Palmer,but hey the man to teach them all Buddy Rich.. Love Lisa.
Lascivious Maximus
23-09-2004, 22:21
link??

meh, animal is still the best.

lets talk about style!!
Beautiful Lisa
23-09-2004, 22:23
Animal does not have style, Keith Moon had style.
Turk-mem-istan
23-09-2004, 22:27
Taylor Hawkins.......and how could you forget good ole Dave Grohl.
Meepit
23-09-2004, 22:28
mike joyce!!
the smiths!! WOO WOO!!
Capitalist Cow Slaves
23-09-2004, 22:30
Animal does not have style, Keith Moon had style.

He's got my # 1 vote. But I'm gonna have to give respects to Jizmak Da Gusha of Gwar. Not that he's a extrordinary drummer or anything, it's just that he could kick any other drummers ass if they were to fight.
Marxlan
23-09-2004, 22:30
Hey, what do you call a guy who hangs out with musicians?



A drummer.
Now, now, Mr. Percussion, you just sit back and keep the beat going. Let the real instruments take care of everything else. You know what I'd like to hear in a drum solo? A G, and then maybe a B sharp.... you know, notes? Screw drum solos. The best drummers are the ones who stay where they belong, in the background. That's why I like Max Roach, who performed with Charlie Parker and Dizzy Gillespie. The man let the real musicians play and backed them up, as is his proper function.
Beautiful Lisa
23-09-2004, 22:31
boom bash boom boom bash.
Meepit
23-09-2004, 22:32
did u just bash the smiths?! omg! they were amazing!
Friden
23-09-2004, 22:32
Akira Jimbo is a madman. I've seen some of his "instructional" videos and they are unreal.
Beautiful Lisa
23-09-2004, 22:34
did u just bash the smiths?! omg! they were amazing!
You don't listen to much music then...
Jamaican Cheese
23-09-2004, 22:38
Ringo. >_>
Meepit
23-09-2004, 22:38
:mad: :mad: You don't listen to much music then...
I LOVE MUSIC! WTF? HOW CAN U NOT LOVE MORRISSEY?
TheHighlands
23-09-2004, 22:39
bonham of course but also Ian paice from deep purple
that dude can wail :headbang:
Boileria
23-09-2004, 22:40
Hey, what do you call a guy who hangs out with musicians?



A drummer.
Now, now, Mr. Percussion, you just sit back and keep the beat going. Let the real instruments take care of everything else. You know what I'd like to hear in a drum solo? A G, and then maybe a B sharp.... you know, notes? Screw drum solos. The best drummers are the ones who stay where they belong, in the background. That's why I like Max Roach, who performed with Charlie Parker and Dizzy Gillespie. The man let the real musicians play and backed them up, as is his proper function.

And the award for the most ignorant post in the thread goes to....
Beautiful Lisa
23-09-2004, 22:41
:mad: :mad:
I LOVE MUSIC! WTF? HOW CAN U NOT LOVE MORRISSEY?
Morrissey once said Justin Hayward was a rubbish songwriter not worthy of airplay. Only a moron would say such a thing.
Meepit
23-09-2004, 22:42
Morrissey once said Justin Hayward was a rubbish songwriter not worthy of airplay. Only a moron would say such a thing.

morrissey says a load of stuff. hes still up in my top 3 musicians, though... sting, morrissey, and bono!! :) ;)
when did he say that, btw?
Zachistahn
23-09-2004, 22:48
Either Bonhom or
Keith Moon - a true revolutionary in the role of the drummer
Bullbridge
23-09-2004, 22:54
:headbang: Well "feef" moon had this tendency as does Animal. but to throw a curve ball, what about Cozy Powell, he had a huge drum solo hit the top of the UK charts many years ago, it was good as well, two drum kits and very little in the way of supporting instruments but still carrying a "choon"
Mejobsworth
23-09-2004, 22:56
morrissey says a load of stuff. hes still up in my top 3 musicians, though... sting, morrissey, and bono!! :) ;)
when did he say that, btw?
He said it when the Smiths were at the height of their fame! when he was on a new release programme on Radio 1 with Mike Reid. It was years ago but ever since then I can't stand the guy. Sorry.
Lascivious Maximus
23-09-2004, 22:56
And the award for the most ignorant post in the thread goes to....
i concur, drummers are important too, can you imagine Zep without bonham??

fuck.
Lascivious Maximus
23-09-2004, 22:57
well, moon is amazing, but bonham still tops it out...

BTW, the animal thing was a joke, you do know who im talking about right?
Meepit
23-09-2004, 22:58
He said it when the Smiths were at the height of their fame! when he was on a new release programme on Radio 1 with Mike Reid. It was years ago but ever since then I can't stand the guy. Sorry.
im up with most of what he says, im kinda obsessive... i forgot about that, he insults a lot of ppl...
Lascivious Maximus
23-09-2004, 22:59
Ronnie Verrell played animal on the muppets, and the character of 'Animal' was based on Kieth moon's wild stage antics, so any comparrison there is deserved.

Now, for the gold star, what other band did Ronnie Verrell play in? (no google!!)
Beautiful Lisa
23-09-2004, 23:00
im up with most of what he says, im kinda obsessive... i forgot about that, he insults a lot of ppl...
I think he also made comment about Justin Haywards hair,which was probably quite correct.
Ellbownia
23-09-2004, 23:01
I'd have to go with Max Weinberg, Anton Fig, Joey Kraemer, and Animal, not necessarily in that order.
Meepit
23-09-2004, 23:02
Ronnie Verrell played animal on the muppets, and the character of 'Animal' was based on Kieth moon's wild stage antics, so any comparrison there is deserved.

Now, for the gold star, what other band did Ronnie Verrell play in? (no google!!)
animal?
Lascivious Maximus
23-09-2004, 23:02
im so happy to see Animals name pop up in here! thats so cool!
Meepit
23-09-2004, 23:04
I think he also made comment about Justin Haywards hair,which was probably quite correct.
ya know, i dont think i can place what his hair looks like...
Lascivious Maximus
23-09-2004, 23:05
animal?
must be a yungin.
Dalamia
23-09-2004, 23:09
It has been established that Ringo Starr is the worlds greatest drummer. He can hold a beat longer than any drummer, ever.

Too bad he's so boring! :cool:


As for my favorite drummer, Ted Kirkpatrick of Tourniquet.
Lascivious Maximus
23-09-2004, 23:16
It has been established that Ringo Starr is the worlds greatest drummer. He can hold a beat longer than any drummer, ever.


im guessing youve never heard of Ron Bushy then.
Genesis Rule Man
23-09-2004, 23:21
Nicko Mcbrain from Maiden .. and whoever drums for Cradle of Filth....
And man that was weird , I was just about to put the Smiths on when I read bout em on here .... * Scary * lol
Dave Grohl Is damn good too ... He ' s a very talented musician in general , actually.... Oh , and Joey from Slipknot is also very good :)
Overall though ... I would have to go with some of the old ( and unfortunately less famous ) Jazz drummers ... I mean , not my taste really or anything , but they were definitely the best ....
Dalamia
23-09-2004, 23:28
im guessing youve never heard of Ron Bushy then.

I have. But thats not the point. This was tested a few years back by a drummer magazine, (I can't remember which one), and Ringo beat out everybody by at least 30 minutes...

Most modern drummers can't hold a rhythm for longer than 4 minutes.
Meepit
23-09-2004, 23:30
Nicko Mcbrain from Maiden .. and whoever drums for Cradle of Filth....
And man that was weird , I was just about to put the Smiths on when I read bout em on here .... * Scary * lol
Dave Grohl Is damn good too ... He ' s a very talented musician in general , actually.... Oh , and Joey from Slipknot is also very good :)
Overall though ... I would have to go with some of the old ( and unfortunately less famous ) Jazz drummers ... I mean , not my taste really or anything , but they were definitely the best ....
of course u were going to put the smiths~ i ahve no doubt in that, they're bloody amazing!
Ginger Beer
23-09-2004, 23:36
How abount Mike Portnoy from modern prog rock band Dream Theatre. Most of their records shift in and out of time signature all the time.
Genesis Rule Man
23-09-2004, 23:36
How does that work ? If that was the case , there wouldn ' t be as many songs lasting longer than 4 minutes would there ?
Lascivious Maximus
23-09-2004, 23:37
I have. But thats not the point. This was tested a few years back by a drummer magazine, (I can't remember which one), and Ringo beat out everybody by at least 30 minutes...

Most modern drummers can't hold a rhythm for longer than 4 minutes.
and ron bushy was in on this?? i mean cripes, have you listened to inagaddadavida? of course you have!!

ill have to take your word for it, but ive never heard Ringo play anything like that.
Genesis Rule Man
23-09-2004, 23:44
Yeah , Dream Theatre Rock ! Did I forget to mention Joe Morello , Travis Barker and the guy from The Who ? ? ? :S And I guess * through gritted teeth * Ulrich .... tho I hate Metallica , pretty much .....

And yeah lol , I have two albums by them on my PC... ( My mums though ... lol )
Paskaeyjar
23-09-2004, 23:49
There's no beating Bonham.
I've been listening to Pantera lately and Vinnie Paul is massive too.
Of course one can't forget Dave Grohl, he was incredible with Queens of the stone age on their album: Songs for the deaf.
Lascivious Maximus
24-09-2004, 00:07
yep, looks like Bonham wins by a nose.
Crazed Stuntmen
24-09-2004, 04:36
Yeah , Dream Theatre Rock ! Did I forget to mention Joe Morello , Travis Barker and the guy from The Who ? ? ? :S And I guess * through gritted teeth * Ulrich .... tho I hate Metallica , pretty much .....

And yeah lol , I have two albums by them on my PC... ( My mums though ... lol )

The guy from The Who is the late Keith Moon. He and John Bonham rule the drumming world!!
G Dubyah
24-09-2004, 07:36
Neil Peart > All.

But for more swing-type music, Buddy Rich.

Brian Bennett as well.
Jumbania
24-09-2004, 07:46
Better and best, in music, tend to be subjective.
One usually prefers the music of their own favorite style & generation. For me, John Bonham shall always remain the standard by which others are judged.
Sdaeriji
24-09-2004, 08:02
As a drummer....

John Bonham
Keith Moon
Danny Carey (from Tool)
Dave Grohl
Mike Portnoy
Max Weinburg, just because I like him on Conan O'Brien

And I'm going to nominate "That Guy" from AC/DC, because I've yet to meet a person who could name the drummer from AC/DC off the top of their head, and I find that that's a testament to his ability.
BackwoodsSquatches
24-09-2004, 09:21
1. John Bonham.
2. Keith Moon.
3. Bill Ward.
4. Neil Pert.
5. Nick Mason.


Honorable Mentions:

Dave Lombardo.
Ringo Starr.
The guy who used to play with Faith No More, and then Ozzy, and occasionally Black Sabbath, who's name I cant remember.)
BackwoodsSquatches
24-09-2004, 09:23
As a drummer....

John Bonham
Keith Moon
Danny Carey (from Tool)
Dave Grohl
Mike Portnoy
Max Weinburg, just because I like him on Conan O'Brien

And I'm going to nominate "That Guy" from AC/DC, because I've yet to meet a person who could name the drummer from AC/DC off the top of their head, and I find that that's a testament to his ability.


AC/DC has had a rotating cast of drummers.

"He was our fourth drummer...he asphyxiated on vomit. We dont know who's.
You cant really test for vomit."
-Spinal Tap.
Roccan
24-09-2004, 09:38
you are reading his post right now
La Roue de Fortune
24-09-2004, 09:39
Neil Peart!!!
Hands down!

What is wrong with you people? Only once was he mentioned in the thread.
And to the person who said drummers should stay in the background, who I refuse to even take the time to go back and properly quote, you obviously haven't ever heard an actual "percussionist".

See, drummers keep the beat with a snare, high-hat and bass drum. A "percussionist" plays a myriad of instruments. They even produce melodies, i.e. A, D, G, etc ... you are most likely listening to MTV trash and other "pop" music of the ages.

Somebody please kill this thread.
Fluffles
24-09-2004, 09:40
Dave Grohl mate, Dave Grohl
I don't know who said it, but i agree with them totally

"He hits them like they owe him money"


Too true
Lasatania
24-09-2004, 09:45
It's gotta be Doktor Avalanche from the Sisters of Mercy..

:D :D :D :D :D :D

Let's face it, he's probably one of the longest lasting in a band.. meh!
Refused Party Program
24-09-2004, 10:00
I don't know his name but U2's drummer was pretty damn amazing on the first 5 records.
Audio Assault
24-09-2004, 19:42
I agree with all of you, all these examples are first-rate drummers....BUT....
You're leaving out one major player.

The man I'm referring to is Bill Ward, the original drummer for Black Sabbath.

As I said before, I agree with all of your examples, I was just adding another bad-ass to the list!
Audio Assault
24-09-2004, 19:46
It's gotta be Doktor Avalanche from the Sisters of Mercy..

:D :D :D :D :D :D

Let's face it, he's probably one of the longest lasting in a band.. meh!

Well... How long has this cat been with the band?

Alex Van Halen has been with VH since the "garage days", which is more than 30 years. Also, the drummer from the Rolling Stones (Can't recall his name at this time...half asleep), He's been with the Stones since the age of the Dinosaurs!!
Crazed Stuntmen
03-10-2004, 07:32
DUDE!! HAVE YOU ALL LOST YOUR F&^@ING MINDS!?!?!

Has the world forgotten about Alex Van Halen? Also Vinnie Paul from Pantera/Damageplan?


Oh the humanity!!! ::headbang::
Keljamistan
03-10-2004, 07:48
Neil Peart!!!
Hands down!

What is wrong with you people? Only once was he mentioned in the thread.
And to the person who said drummers should stay in the background, who I refuse to even take the time to go back and properly quote, you obviously haven't ever heard an actual "percussionist".

See, drummers keep the beat with a snare, high-hat and bass drum. A "percussionist" plays a myriad of instruments. They even produce melodies, i.e. A, D, G, etc ... you are most likely listening to MTV trash and other "pop" music of the ages.

Somebody please kill this thread.

Amen. Niel Peart, hands down. Not even close. He's a freakin Michelangelo with sticks.
Kanabia
03-10-2004, 07:52
Of course one can't forget Dave Grohl, he was incredible with Queens of the stone age on their album: Songs for the deaf.

*Slaps head*

3 Pages went past before Grohl got mentioned.

lol.
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2004, 07:52
Since someone has already mentioned Roach I'll list some others

Gene Krupa, Buddy Rich, Jeff "Tain" Watts, Elvin Jones
Gianevan
03-10-2004, 08:09
My Buddy Martin Bak, a loooooong time Lars Ulrich and Metallica fan went to a Metallica concert at the Palace of Auburn hills in Michigan on Friday. He brought w/ him a sign that said "Lars Let ME Play Your Drumkit"...he was right at the cage. Guess what happened? He got pulled on stage and got to play the intro to seek and destroy w/ Metallica. That's right, he played with Metallica. This was by far the highlight of Martins life. His drumkit at home is set up exactly the way Ulrichs is so it was perfect! Martin has a recording studio in his home "SLR" records and has been playing guitar and drums since he was a little kid. He would give Lars a genuine run for his money if they did a face off.
Here is Martins studio website there is a pic of him playing w/ Lars. Also if you go to the Metallica website you can see him on that as well.

http://www.geocities.com/soundlabsrecording/home.html