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Dan Rather made a mistake. He showed the world documents that questioned Bush's National Guard Service record (or lack thereof, I should say). The problem with the documents is that they cannot be authenticated. For this whole mess, Dan Rather apologized. He admitted on national tv Monday that he made a mistake.

Yet the Republicans are calling for his head.

I find it kind of ironic. Ironic that Dan Rather made a mistake and the republicans are not willing to forgive and forget. Dan Rather's mistake didn't kill a single person, though.

George Bush, on the other hand, made a very big mistake in March of 2003. He went on national tv and lied to the world and said Saddam had WMD's and that our freedoms were "being threatened". He said we were going to attack Iraq against the UN and international law.

Then, on May 1, 2003, Bush went out in his crotch-stuffed air suit and declared end of major combat and proclaimed "mission accomplished".

I find it kind of funny. Since Bush proclaimed "mission accomplished", the state of Iraq has gotten worse. Iraq is on the verge of civil war. There's killings and suffering being shown on the news every day. Yet, Bush walks around and says the Iraqis are much better off then they ever have been. Try telling the Iraqis that, Bush.

So, what is the result of Bush's mistake and lies to the world? 14,800 innocent Iraqi civilians have been killed since the beginning of the war. (http://www.iraqbodycount.net/) 7,350 of those deaths happened during "major combat" prior to May 2003. Up to this very moment, 1,038 of our soldiers have died, all the result of a lie made by Bush. (http://icasualties.org/oif/) 139 deaths occured in the period of March-May of 2003. The rest of the casualties happened after "major combat" was over.

My point is, is that, instead of attacking Dan Rather--who had the courage to go on tv and admit he made a mistake and that he should've investigated the source of the documents more thouroughly--why don't you republicans attack your leader and president on sending your husbands, wives, children to fight in Iraq based on lies and forged documents? Why don't you force Bush to go on international tv and have him admit that he lied about the reasons for going to war in Iraq? Why don't you ever question Bush about the whole Iraq quagmire? Because of Bush's lies, thousands of people died and thousands more are injured, and Iraq is in the makings of a civil war.

Yet you all attack Dan Rather for his lies and for him misleading the country. :mad:

Well...he has also appeard in ads for Kerry and attended Democratic fundraisers all the while saying he did not KNOW they were fundraisers. Great newsman there Dan...;)

I find it kind of ironic. Ironic that Dan Rather made a mistake and the republicans are not willing to forgive and forget. Dan Rather's mistake didn't kill a single person, though.

Why should they forgive and forget? Dan Rather isn't acting in good faith. He is 100% anti-Bush, and has lost all objectivity as a reporter. Even now he won't admit the documents are fake. His story now is he still thinks they're real but because he can't verify it completely he wouldn't have run the story if he knows then what he knows now.

Now your George Bush made a mistake invading Iraq is subjective. Half the population still believes it was a good idea to invade Iraq. There is a big difference.

Now your George Bush made a mistake invading Iraq is subjective. Half the population still believes it was a good idea to invade Iraq. There is a big difference.

Actually, a little over half of the American population disapprove of the war. ;)

Check it out here: http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm

Why should they forgive and forget? Dan Rather isn't acting in good faith. He is 100% anti-Bush, and has lost all objectivity as a reporter. Even now he won't admit the documents are fake. His story now is he still thinks they're real but because he can't verify it completely he wouldn't have run the story if he knows then what he knows now.

Now your George Bush made a mistake invading Iraq is subjective. Half the population still believes it was a good idea to invade Iraq. There is a big difference.
and why dont we have limbaugh's head? fat hypocrite. didnt he think we should lock away all drug addicts for life. OOPS, maybe they will give him a radio job in the big house

I'm on your side, Siniestro, but I still hate seeing posts saying things like ...... lied to the world and said Saddam had WMD's and that our freedoms were "being threatened".
... Bush went out in his crotch-stuffed air suit
... 14,800 innocent Iraqi civilians
... all the result of a lie made by Bush. ... don't win support from Bush fans, and make Bush opponents (like me) cringe. Bush made mistakes. The country has a chance to rule on it this November, and he'll either keep his job or lose it. Rather made mistakes. His management has a chance to rule on it, and it's not subject to a vote. If he continues to be good for CBS's bottom line, they'll keep him. If not, he'll be off to the Old Anchor's Home.Everything else is just "a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

My thoughts on the Dan Rather situation brilliantly summed up:

http://www.ucomics.com/tomtoles/2004/09/22/

and why dont we have limbaugh's head? fat hypocrite. didnt he think we should lock away all drug addicts for life. OOPS, maybe they will give him a radio job in the big house

Limbaugh isn't a reporter. He's a Republican talk show host. He makes no pretenses as to where his political loyalties are.

Actually, a little over half of the American population disapprove of the war.

It depends completely on what poll you look at, but it's right around half. ;)

Limbaugh isn't a reporter. He's a Republican talk show host. He makes no pretenses as to where his political loyalties are.



It depends completely on what poll you look at, but it's right around half. ;)
and some one has already pointed out rather said he is a democrat

but what about the whole of fox news? they present themselves as fair and balanced, sure when they report basic news its ok, watch an interview, the scale tips right

Limbaugh isn't a reporter. He's a Republican talk show host. He makes no pretenses as to where his political loyalties are.

Limbaugh passes himself off as the only legitmate source of news. So does O'Reilly. If they want to be treated as such, they should be held to the same scrutiny.

Also, what I think people are missing here is that while the documents may not have held up to muster, no one is questioning the content! Bush himself said that he'd seen the documents and that they raised questions. If the content wasn't true, why hasn't he come right out and said so?

In the meantime, no one yet has been able to find a single person who recalls Bush being in Alabama. And with Barnes saying that he got Bush into the Guard, one has to wonder.

and also come to think of it, limbaugh puts himself out as the epitome of morality and family values, and he said all drug addicts should be put away for life, uh oh, your addicted to oxycontin and got caught

This might come across as a bit on the extreme side of things... nevertheless, I think we should pull all of our troops out of Iraq and nuke the whole damn place... this would eliminate the whole war and we could re-build Iraq the way BIG BAD BUSH wants and no more American's die. Basically BIG BAD BUSH wants to rebuild Iraq as another America and will do this at all cost! WAY TO GO JUNIOR! How about we give "JUNIOR" a rifle and place him in the Middle of Iraq for a while... I bet he would sqirm and cry like a school girl the moment a sigle round blast's by his head... do you think then he would realize that this is not a game... these are real lives-Mothers, Fathers, Brothers, Sisters, Sons, Daughters,etc... that he is using as pawns to settle the score. These are my brothers in arms... that he has sent out to fight this battle... which is for what? It's all because his pop's could not get the job done in the first attempt. If you look back... the Bush family has ties with Husein, and BinLaden... hummmm.... Look at that!