NationStates Jolt Archive

Thank you Gary Larson.

bah, I have to learn to be patient
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... So, one has to be labeled as a pessimist, optomist, idiot or oblivious objector? I think not.

That reminds me, I want some Pink Lemonade at 10:31 p.m.

Half full... :confused: Half empty...

*GULP*

Bartender, REFILL!!! :D

Half full... :confused: Half empty...

*GULP*

Bartender, REFILL!!! :D
Agreed, "in need of a refill"

*has always wondered what was in the glass*

Im definitely the last type. I will usually defend the unpopular side when i get the chance and like either dampening or inflaming arguments, whichever works better for me at the time. This playfullness is something i have had at my disposal for about forever mostly after realizing that taking everything to heart and fanatically acting out to support your beliefs is perhaps more morally satisfying but ultimately less fun than simply diverting the topic.

*has always wondered what was in the glass*

Partly air, partly... *ackk*
<---dies at hand of government agent.

1. How big is the cup?
2. What is in the cup?
3. Can I get more?

You forgot the realist option: What the hell am I doing staring at a glass?

... So, one has to be labeled as a pessimist, optomist, idiot or oblivious objector? I think not.

Way to kill the joke.

I'm still waiting for my cheeseburger here....

Was it filled to it's current mid-point or drank down from being full to it's current half-way point?

If it was filled half way from being empty it's half full. It it was emptied or drank down from being filled previously in it's entirety then it is half empty.

For me it is relative, not for better or worse.

I perfer Pratchett's version.

"There are, it has been said, two types of people in the world. There are those who, when presented with a glass that is exactly half full, say: this glass is half full. And then there are others who say: this glass is half empty.
The world BELONGS, however, to those who can look at the glass and say: What's up with this glass? Excuse me? Excuse ME? THIS is my glass? I don't THINK so. MY glass was full! AND it was a bigger glass! Who's been pinching my beer?
And at the other end of the bar the world is full of the other type of person, who has a broken glass, or a glass that has been carelessly knocked over (usually by one of the people calling for a larger glass), or has no glass at all, because he was at the back of the crowd and had failed to catch the barkeep's eye."

-The Truth

The glass is always completely full of something or other. Questions about percentages only become relevant when some of the substances that makes up the contents of the glass are more desirable than the remainder of the contents.

I only said "half full" because at some stage in the glass' existence it was completely devoid of (let's say) water. Anyone who say's its half-empty is not a necessarily pessimist, but is indeed just not looking at the big picture.

There.
I've ruined it for everyone by bringing my obsolete and ultimately wrong philosophy into this. Thanks and goodnight.

I only said "half full" because at some stage in the glass' existence it was completely devoid of (let's say) water. Anyone who say's its half-empty is not a necessarily pessimist, but is indeed just not looking at the big picture.

There.
I've ruined it for everyone by bringing my obsolete and ultimately wrong philosophy into this. Thanks and goodnight.

Ooh, and at some point in the glass' existence it was just a pile of sand. So, in reality, there is no glass, so the question is moot anyway. Deep, man, deep.

Depends ... If it was full in the first place and you drank some, then you emptied some of it... hence being half empty.
If on the other hand it was empty then you filled it half way that would be half full!

stupid question really, its all perspective.....if one is drinking from it (the object is to empty it) its half empty......but if one is filling it, then its half full.

emptyness and fullness are two wings of the same bird

and i did not order a glass of bird or a cheeseburger

but the nadlach soup looks good and so does the catccatorri

=^^=
.../\...

If you look at it from the bottom, it'll seem full because the liquid is the first thing you see. On more careful observation the glass will seem only half full.
Symetrically, you can argue for the glass to be half empty from a top view.

Since humans drink from their glass with a top view, the glass will be half empty.

Jeez, I never thought there would be so many arguments to a glass being half full/empty

I prefer Pratchett's version.

"There are, it has been said, two types of people in the world. There are those who, when presented with a glass that is exactly half full, say: this glass is half full. And then there are others who say: this glass is half empty.
The world BELONGS, however, to those who can look at the glass and say: What's up with this glass? Excuse me? Excuse ME? THIS is my glass? I don't THINK so. MY glass was full! AND it was a bigger glass! Who's been pinching my beer?
And at the other end of the bar the world is full of the other type of person, who has a broken glass, or a glass that has been carelessly knocked over (usually by one of the people calling for a larger glass), or has no glass at all, because he was at the back of the crowd and had failed to catch the barkeep's eye."

-The Truth

*absolutely adores Terry Pratchett, and resolves to memorise yet another quote from his books*

I also agree, naturally, with the quote :p.

The glass is smashed!

Seriously? Pessimist, because I'm rarely disappointed that way. In fact, I prefer to call it realism :)

You all are missing the point.

There is no glass.

You all are missing the point.

There is no glass.

Okay, it can be argued that there is no specific glass and even that there is no general glass as an abstraction or concept. But for the sake of this postulate there is a hypothetical glass, created only of your own thought, with all the functions of a glass to hold a certain mass and certain consistency of some measure of a particular pre-defined substance of a predetermined quality as defined by the utility and purpose of the glass.

It is the relative form of a container made to retain this quality of substance for an indefinite period without it loosing the basic constitution of it's content until it is put to use as per the main utility and purpose of the glass. Which is the dispersion of the quality of substance therein from or to an equally qualifiable reciprocal. Now does the horizon of it's being take on a certain finite functional quality as per mode of the quantity of the substantial quality that it's purpose was engineered to act in form with? And does this become thus definitive of the glass though separate from it's beingness to itself for the Dasein of what it retains? Does the existential fortitude through time-space itself and itself displaced to another matter even when giving to another apparatus of matter sequester the meaning of the glass to a particular nature as a symbiont with it's qualified purposeful being-toward-itself as through it's reciprocal entity? Then can the totality of their mutual co-ordinate manifestations in synchronicity delineate the sequence of their time-flow dimorphism to a single and absolute definitional sense when considering the glass outside of it's horizon of being to time?

It's condition most truly definitive of itself with the least aspect is empty, surmounting that it is full by relation to it's minimal self, as in minimal qualification for it's own beingness. But the horizon of it's most capacity that it's utility intended for it's use would not be reached unless fully full, thereby leaving it empty by relation; the nature of it's beingness realized in relation by the nature of what is fullness; which in it's minimal capacity of still being a glass even while empty it is still bound by in having a measure as a glass. Thus it's minimal qualification for being must entail the maximum that it's being relates.

So it is half empty by the glass' regard, and half full with regard to what it is that is within it. The question is; do you think in terms of the glass or in terms of the water? The glass is only your means to the water, the glass restricts you in it's limitations set to how the water is borne. So thinking 'the glass is half empty' is optimistic thinking for it sees the potentiality of the glass is already more than the water and sees rectifying that situation as possible. Thinking 'the glass is half full' sees only the beingness of the water to itself and is pessimistic for it sees nothing beyond what is currently there as possible in regard to the utility of how it's being used.

Wow! Who exected this to get philisophical? I started this because it was late, I was tired, and I felt like doing something stupid.

Wow! Who exected this to get philisophical? I started this because it was late, I was tired, and I felt like doing something stupid.

Yes, I get the impression some people sit up in bed at night thinking about things like this. Good for you, I say. Sleeping is overrated.

liberal: "half empty"

conservative: "who took half my water?"

What kind of glass is it what is in the glass。 Nobody fills a brandy galss all the way up that is insane。 Half full brandy glass with brandy that is doing pretty good。 Some glasses are meant ot be only half full. how big is the glass. Is the glass transparent? If not that might hide the truth. So many questions so little time.