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Bush 2000-2004
Bush 2004-2008
Rudy 2008-2012
Rudy 2012-2016
Arny 2016-2020
Arny 2020-2024

..it will be a fun time indeed...!

:D


Would YOU kill yourself..!?

Or fight in the "NovoSinister Jihad"...!?

you forgot Jeb Bush, and his very charismatic son... and condoleeza....

Rudy would never make it through the primaries--he's pro-choice and he likes gay people.

Arnold will never get his Amendment--too many natural born Senators want to run for President and none of them are going to clear the way for a somewhat popular movie star/governor.

And of course, you forgot about the Jeb-ernator, who, with any luck, will disappear into the Everglades never to be seen again.

and its astounding, because at this point I would vote for Arnie. He's gotten suprisingly little media coverage which means a) He's doing a good job, or b) None of his failures are flashy enough

and its astounding, because at this point I would vote for Arnie. He's gotten suprisingly little media coverage which means a) He's doing a good job, or b) None of his failures are flashy enough
Trust me--I live in California. His failures just haven't been flashy enough yet, but give him time. All he's done is buy time on the impending fiscal crisis with this bond issue. We're gonna get bitchslapped economically sooner or later, and I'm betting on sooner.

Rudy would never make it through the primaries--he's pro-choice and he likes gay people.

All the more reason I'd try to push to get him nominated. Personally, as for abortion, I don't like the idea of it being taken lightly, like birth control...but I think it would be quite arrogant to just ban it all. I think that would be QUITE something if the moderates could force that past the extremists, and might even bring about a needed change in the Republican party.





Well...I can DREAM, can't I? :-P

All the more reason I'd try to push to get him nominated. Personally, as for abortion, I don't like the idea of it being taken lightly, like birth control...but I think it would be quite arrogant to just ban it all. I think that would be QUITE something if the moderates could force that past the extremists, and might even bring about a needed change in the Republican party.





Well...I can DREAM, can't I? :-P
Hey, if you and other moderates can get those changes made in the Republican party, nobody will be happier than me. :D

you forgot Jeb Bush, and his very charismatic son... and condoleeza....

Jeb won't want the job.

Jeb's son comes in 2024-2028/2028-2032 period.

Condie has better things to do.

:D

By 2020 the "left/right" issue will have evolved into something else entirely.

The reason is that the left will have utterly discredited itself into oblivion, and the (middling to far) right will be the center.

This "new center" will break up into 2 factions (there will ALWAYS be 2 and only 2 major factions in the US).

I don't know what the axis of cleavage will be, but it will be somewhat unexpected.

The "old left" will have evolved into "the terrorists" and "the aged dead".

The "mono-world" will attempt to control all populi via legislation via judges, not elections.

The "pluri-world" will attempt to control all populi via economy via beneign dictatorial market-makers.

And of course, you forgot about the Jeb-ernator, who, with any luck, will disappear into the Everglades never to be seen again.

back in the days of the 98 midterm election i predicted that one of the bushes would be president in 2000. i really should have gone into the 24 hour news network talking head business straight out of high school.

back in the days of the 98 midterm election i predicted that one of the bushes would be president in 2000. i really should have gone into the 24 hour news network talking head business straight out of high school.
You certainly couldn't do worse straight out of high school than some of the people doing it today.

Here's the tough question--will there be a Bush president in 2005 or 2009?

Here's the tough question--will there be a Bush president in 2005 or 2009?

2005 is a really tough one, because not only are we continuing the tie from last time around, we have a campaign whose media face is mostly still stuck in 1970. barring something drastic happening, its really going to come down to how we deal with the tie this time around. and it will be a tie again, somebody just has to tell the american public that when the margin of victory is smaller than the margin of error there is no 'real' winner. and imho, it makes no sense whatsoever to award electoral votes to anybody under those circumstances. less sense than government normally makes to me even.

who knows, maybe this time it will actually go to the house - anybody know the breakdown of state delegations to the house?

assuming no bush this time around, i suspect we might see another bush attempt next time.

What about McCain? He's the logical choice for the GOP.

And...I have reason to believe Hillary Clinton is eyeing the 2008 ticket, should Bush win reelection. In a few years, we'll see where this goes...but don't say I didn't warn ya back in the day...;)

My predictions: Kerry, Kerry, Gore, Clinton.

:)

Our governor's gonna be really old by the 20's...

He's around his 50's already.

as long as we are able to keep George Pataki from running, new york's budget problems are scary enough without him making more of a fiasco with the national budget.

2005 is a really tough one, because not only are we continuing the tie from last time around, we have a campaign whose media face is mostly still stuck in 1970. barring something drastic happening, its really going to come down to how we deal with the tie this time around. and it will be a tie again, somebody just has to tell the american public that when the margin of victory is smaller than the margin of error there is no 'real' winner. and imho, it makes no sense whatsoever to award electoral votes to anybody under those circumstances. less sense than government normally makes to me even.

who knows, maybe this time it will actually go to the house - anybody know the breakdown of state delegations to the house?

assuming no bush this time around, i suspect we might see another bush attempt next time.I have to believe that this election won't be as close as the last one because I might not survive it if it is--I might go mad.

That said, if there's any semblance of impropriety in this election, I'll be in the streets until they shoot me down, no doubt about it.

I doubt it will go to the House--in order for that to happen, there has to be a real third party threat, and there just isn't. There is no Perot or Connally or Wallace this time around. Nader won't poll one percent nationwide and won't do better than 3% in any state is my guess, and may not even wind up third. Badnarik might beat him nationwide.

I have little doubt that if George loses that Jeb will make a 2008 run for it. If George wins, who knows--there's the very real danger of Bush fatigue.

If Kerry loses, Hillary will probably look at it seriously, That's a far cry from the right-wing's assertion that Hillary wants Kerry to lose, but she'd be a fool not to look at it seriously. So would Dean and Edwards and who knows who else. Obama? Maybe.

I'd prefer:
Bush 2004-2008
Bob Barr 2008-2012
Bob Barr 2012-2016
Charlton Heston 2016-2020
Charlton Heston 2020-2024

I'd prefer:
Bush 2004-2008
Bob Barr 2008-2012
Bob Barr 2012-2016
Charlton Heston 2016-2020
Charlton Heston 2020-2024

And Michael Jackson 2025-2100...It'll be a thriller..He He...Whose bad?

I'd prefer:
Bush 2004-2008
Bob Barr 2008-2012
Bob Barr 2012-2016
Charlton Heston 2016-2020
Charlton Heston 2020-2024
Ah, Heston. I can see the campaign now. "Vote Heston. Reagan had Alzheimers and he did okay."

I'm not supposed to let this out, but us Libruls have a secret plan.
We WANT Bush to be re-elected this year.
THEN, we'll immediately push tax-exempt and illegal opportunities through the roof. Filesharing, untaxed prostitution, triple teenage pregnancies and have our secret spies in the republican party propose a bill we later edit to include gems such as "have one woman removed from all existing marraiges" once it gets majority support.

We're going to make 04-08 America a hellhole, Bush WILL be in office, and there won't be another Republican president for this whole damn generation. You may THINK we're disorganized, but it's all part of our secret plan. The only way you could defeat this is to either give us everything we want or make that what's-his-face donkey we've nominated president.


I think I'll go eat a baby and forcibly sodomize lesbians now.

I actually wouldn't mind Rudy or John McCain running

I'd prefer:
Bush 2004-2008
Bob Barr 2008-2012
Bob Barr 2012-2016
Charlton Heston 2016-2020
Charlton Heston 2020-2024
As long as you mean "I'd prefer:" as "I'd prefer in a coma:"

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Parthians
I'd prefer:
Bush 2004-2008
Bob Barr 2008-2012
Bob Barr 2012-2016
Charlton Heston 2016-2020
Charlton Heston 2020-2024


As long as you mean "I'd prefer:" as "I'd prefer in a coma:"

Heh he he he he he..! :D

There is a debate raging in my head right now as to whether or not this country just might need another 4 years of bush to really learn a lesson. We had 8 decent years of clinton and we took a lot for granted and maybe this is just the piper collecting his due. The question is have we learned from it? Have we learned the lesson in the old saying "you don't know what you have until it is gone/taken from you".

If we have then maybe Kerry will win (not that everything will be coming up roses afterwards) but maybe this country needs another 4 years of hell to truly wake up and move forward. We became quite complacent for a while and our complacency caught us, after all who knew that a right wing wacko who's advisers read like a who's who of the christian coalition would be president for 4 years after losing the majority of a vote because onlye 50 percent of the population that could have voted did vote was appointed by the Supreme court (something even the pubies should howl about and something conservatives in general should have opposed).

Perhaps we need to take a beating for a while before we wake up and make it right.

There is a debate raging in my head right now as to whether or not this country just might need another 4 years of bush to really learn a lesson. We had 8 decent years of clinton and we took a lot for granted and maybe this is just the piper collecting his due. The question is have we learned from it? Have we learned the lesson in the old saying "you don't know what you have until it is gone/taken from you".

If we have then maybe Kerry will win (not that everything will be coming up roses afterwards) but maybe this country needs another 4 years of hell to truly wake up and move forward. We became quite complacent for a while and our complacency caught us, after all who knew that a right wing wacko who's advisers read like a who's who of the christian coalition would be president for 4 years after losing the majority of a vote because onlye 50 percent of the population that could have voted did vote was appointed by the Supreme court (something even the pubies should howl about and something conservatives in general should have opposed).

Perhaps we need to take a beating for a while before we wake up and make it right.

I'm not going to argue with your "facts" as they are facts to you, regardless of any validity anywhere else.

I personally think you're right on the "more lessons needed" claim.

We do need more of a lesson in how much more utterly scatterbrained, paranoid, bizarre and demented the left can get.

We really need to have Bush win again, simply to infuriate the left into complete image self-destruction.

The majority of the people of America needs to truly find out the depth and breadth of the insanity that is the left.

Keep talking. Please..! The more you do, the more we see.

What about President George W. Bush
2000-2004
2004-2008 and
President Jeb Bush
2008-2012
2012-2016

Republican Florida Governor Jeb Bush is a popular Governor,
from Miami Florida, the Cubans like him, oh well no one is perfect,
he is married to a Mexican, he speaks perfect fluent spanish,
his son looks 100 percent hispanic and speaks perfect fluent spanish,
thats a good resume in relating to the hispanic vote nationaly
Floridas overall unemployment rate is 4.5 percent one of the lowest
in the nation.

For those that dont like any Bush, have fun with that one.

As long as you mean "I'd prefer:" as "I'd prefer in a coma:"
Or, "I'd prefer in Canada" or "I'd prefer in the Carribbean" or "I'd prefer dead."

What about President George W. Bush
2000-2004
2004-2008 and
President Jeb Bush
2008-2012
2012-2016

Republican Florida Governor Jeb Bush is a popular Governor,
from Miami Florida, the Cubans like him, oh well no one is perfect,
he is married to a Mexican, he speaks perfect fluent spanish,
his son looks 100 percent hispanic and speaks perfect fluent spanish,
thats a good resume in relating to the hispanic vote nationaly
Floridas overall unemployment rate is 4.5 percent one of the lowest
in the nation.

For those that dont like any Bush, have fun with that one.His daughter's a crackhead who has gotten preferential treatment from both the Florida state troopers and judges. How about that?

My predictions: Kerry, Kerry, Gore, Clinton.

:)

lol

too bad Gore's political career is over
however, it'd be nice if:
kerry 2004-2008
kerry 2008-2012
hillary 2012-2016
hillary 2016-2020

lol

too bad Gore's political career is over
however, it'd be nice if:
kerry 2004-2008
kerry 2008-2012
hillary 2012-2016
hillary 2016-2020I like Hillary, but I'd rather see Dean 2012-2020. :D

that would not be good.

that would not be good.
What--Dean? Like we could do worse than what we have now.

bush,g
mcCain
mcCain
chainy
nuclear winter

What--Dean? Like we could do worse than what we have now.

sure we could - think a president that does exactly the same bullshit, but isn't an incompetent liar. somebody that could fool an even bigger percentage of the country most of the time.

sure we could - think a president that does exactly the same bullshit, but isn't an incompetent liar. somebody that could fool an even bigger percentage of the country most of the time.Oh--you mean Jeb.

I said you would have fun with that one, you did.
You and Snowboarding Maniacs
gave me a good one back congratulations,
Kerry, Kerry, Hillary, Hillary.

So what about
President George Bush
1988-1992
President George W. Bush
2000-2004
2004-2008 and
President Jeb Bush
2008-2012
2012-2016

Im just having fun with this thread,
no ofense ment if taken.

Senator Kerreys dauther is lesbian then again
so is chenneys dauther, sorry dont have anything
really agianst that, I am still going to vote for
Bush, Chenney.

I have my reasons and
Democrats have their reasons
I respect that in a Democracy
my nations political freedoms
World Benchmark
I am proud of that ranking.

Thats still a good Resume for Jeb Bush
in relating to the hispanic vote nationaly
id like to see him win.

Take a guess who jacked up California in the first place. I'll give you a hint, he's a democrat, only reason Arnold is getting heat for it is cuz he got screwed over by inheriting the mess and now he's gotta clean it up, not easy to do when democrats dig the hole for you.

Take a guess who jacked up California in the first place. I'll give you a hint, he's a democrat, only reason Arnold is getting heat for it is cuz he got screwed over by inheriting the mess and now he's gotta clean it up, not easy to do when democrats dig the hole for you.
hooo yaaaaaa

I may put my foot in my mouth on this one, I dont know,
Any Republicans out there would like to see Jeb Bush President?.

You will remember this governor for his infamous and outragious contract to obtain stockpiles of oil from out-sourcing, paying large sums of money, therefore making the great state of California bankrupt. By the way, California still suffers the same long-term contract to this day. The name of this democratic governor? *drum roll*

Gray Davis

The Clintons dont want Kerry to win. Simply because that means Hillary wont get to run until 2012. By then she'll have probably faded from the limelight. Eight years being a very long time. If not then she'd most likely have to fight John Edwards for being the choice for President. As it normally stands the VP runs for President when the termlimits come into affect since the VP then becomes the new defacto head of the party.

If Rudy runs he can on several issues. He ran the largest city in the country driving down cirme and revitalizing the city as a whole. Those two things alone would make him attractive enough to run on a larger scheme. (Perhaps though first Govenor of NY before running for President.)

How I see it Republican Wise:
04-08: Bush
08-12:Jeb or Powell(lets not forget he's still a rather popular person with moderates and some leftists..he could have become President himself in 00.)
12-16:Jeb or Powell(if lucky to be re-elected)
16-20:Rudy will most likely be a VP to either Jeb or Powell and then take this chance to Run.
20-24: New Republicans will come to the limelight..maybe Senator Bill First?
24-28:First again perhaps.
28-32:More or less the possibility of Democratic President. (The american public hasnt voted Republicans into office for a long period of time since the 1800s.)
32-36: Me. I'm smart enough, ambitious enough, and frankly likeable enough to try :-)

Democrat Wise:
04-08: Kerry
08-12:Kerry
12-16:Edwards or Clinton(they'll fight each other)
16-20:Edwards or Clinton
20-24:Clinton(just incase she chooses to be VP instead)
24-28:Clinton
28-32: Again the American public generally doesnt like it when one side stays in government for to long and will probably oust the Dems for presidency, especially if Clinton screws up and does nothing in office...much like in her senatorial seat.
32-36: New wave of dems come to the limelight.

I'm not going to tell you what my hopes are for who becomes president, since I dislike both major parties (although I do lean towards the Democrats), but here is who I think will be elected, depending on this elections' outcome...

If George W. Bush wins Reelection:

Bush 2004-2008
Mccain 2008-2012
Mccain 2012-2016?

Unless Mccain makes a gigantic blunder, I see him being reelected, after he leaves office the public should be getting pretty fatigued by the Republicans by then, so they'll likely elect a Democrat, but I could'nt tell you which one..


If John F. Kerry wins the Election:

Kerry 2004-2008
Kerry 2008-2012
Edwards 2012-2016
Edwards 2016-2020
Barak Obama 2020-?


After those dates I have no clue who will be elected...

Take a guess who jacked up California in the first place. I'll give you a hint, he's a democrat, only reason Arnold is getting heat for it is cuz he got screwed over by inheriting the mess and now he's gotta clean it up, not easy to do when democrats dig the hole for you.
Cheney's a Democrat?