NationStates Jolt Archive

In order to make a counterweight to the hefty and serious political/moral threads I adding this sexy thread.

Now, men and women of course. What do you first notice when looking at the opposit sex? Or, what is most important to you? :p

Boobies!!!!

I'm going with Jap on this one.

Or, what is most important to you?

The brain/mind.

well I'd have to say arses, guys with boobs are kind of a turn off

The brain/mind.
when you first see them? it'd be kinda freaky if you could see their brain!

Initially it are the proportions in general, yet most important to me is the voice. Being very audio-orientated a voice can really turn me off or on.

when you first see them? it'd be kinda freaky if you could see their brain!

Ah - yes, but I can see the way they behave, which is controlled by the mind, which is itself emergent from the brain.

Ah - yes, but I can see the way they behave, which is controlled by the mind, which is itself emergent from the brain.
ok, fair enough, the way I see it though is a guy is like a painting, it has to look nice to get me interested but then if there's nothing deeper to it, I move on

I first notice the inability to spell.

i dont know, but it appears there are a lot of tits and arses around this thread!!!!

Ah - yes, but I can see the way they behave, which is controlled by the mind, which is itself emergent from the brain.

Really? Care to provide some evidence of this? :)

Initially it are the proportions in general, yet most important to me is the voice. Being very audio-orientated a voice can really turn me off or on.

I agree on general proportions. Some features can compensate for some little fallacies. But eventually, good looks can't compensate for a very ugly charactre. The thing I don't like about models is they never have a real woman's behind. Usually some sort of constructer worker behind. :p

Really? Care to provide some evidence of this? :)

Exactly which part are you taking issue with? - the reliance of the mind upon the brain?


EDIT: hands up if you expected a topic called "Boobs or buts" to turn into an investigation of the mind/body problem.

Really? Care to provide some evidence of this?

Exactly. It assumes a material world controlled by determistic, logical laws of physics exists. That is something that I do not believe.

First look: Hair/face I love short spiky hair. ;)

Most important: Brain. A guy has gotta be intelligent for me to be interested.

Exactly. It assumes a material world controlled by determistic, logical laws of physics exists. That is something that I do not believe.

It assumes that a material world exists, I'll give you that, but not that the principles which govern it are deterministic or logical. Would you rather have a 'pie in the sky' spiritual world?

It assumes that a material world exists, I'll give you that, but not that the principles which govern it are deterministic or logical. Would you rather have a 'pie in the sky' spiritual world?

If the principles that govern it aren't deterministic, then wouldn't things be able to happen uncaused, rendering things like scientific experimentation useless? Science works according to the principles of logic. If things are not logical, it becomes unreliable.

I love boobs. They are what defines a woman. Butts are nice, but everyone has them, so they're not my biggest turn-on.

If the principles that govern it aren't deterministic, then wouldn't things be able to happen uncaused, rendering things like scientific experimentation useless? Science works according to the principles of logic. If things are not logical, it becomes unreliable.

1. Scientific laws don't state what must happen: they state what has usually happened in previously observed cases.

2. Quantum flux events appear to be uncaused events, as indeed does the material world itself.

3. You assume that logic is itself reliable, and that it maps congruently onto the functioning of the cosmos.

Tell you what: you provide me evidence of a mind acting without reliance on a brain, and I'll consider that a countering piece of evidence to my assertion that they act with reliance upon the brain.

Ass.

Nice tits are mostly chance, courtesy of genetics, but it takes work to maintain a nice ass. It doesn't take much effort to stay in basic shape, so I really have no respect or interest in a woman who lets her body go to shit.

It doesn't take much effort to stay in basic shape, so I really have no respect or interest in a woman who lets her body go to shit.

Amen to that.

Exactly which part are you taking issue with?

That the mind is emergent from the brain. I realise that the temptative answer is that it is a product of neurons shooting or something like that, but that hardly constitutes hard evidence. And as far as I know no one has yet been able to provide any such hard evidence of the mind being emergent from the brain, but maybe I'm ill-informed?


EDIT: hands up if you expected a topic called "Boobs or buts" to turn into an investigation of the mind/body problem.

Sure, why not? After all, this is NationStates. ;)

It doesn't take much effort to stay in basic shape, so I really have no respect or interest in a woman who lets her body go to shit.

The problem here is that you assume that there is a universal, ahistorical aesthetic which defines what the correct bodyform/quality of beauty is: a look across cultures and through history shows us that this is not the case. You conception of gone to "shit" may be highly prized in other cultures.

Ah, a tactless superficial subject degenerates into deep philosophy.

i would like to say boobs or but's but i have never seen either could somebody please post some pictures so i know what you are taliking about...

much obliged

i would like to say boobs or but's but i have never seen either could somebody please post some pictures so i know what you are taliking about...

much obliged

One butt, one boob...

That the mind is emergent from the brain. I realise that the temptative answer is that it is a product of neurons shooting or something like that, but that hardly constitutes hard evidence. And as far as I know no one has yet been able to provide any such hard evidence of the mind being emergent from the brain, but maybe I'm ill-informed?

No, there is no definite evidence that it is, but there is certainly strong circumstantial evidence: the fact that when an individual believes their mind to be particularly active the brain can be observed to also be particularly active. This at least suggests a linkage between the two. Similarly, if the brain is tampered with then differences in the actviity of the mind are reported.

It thus appears that we can draw a tentative connection between brain activity and the activity of the rest of the body: I doubt that you would deny that.

In the end it comes down to which model has the greatest explicative power whilst avoiding complicating the matter needlessly (although it is obviously not clear that the simplest model must be the correct one, if it is sufficient to explain the related problems as well as or better than a more complex model, then there is no reason to opt for the more complication explanation).

In my opinion the materialist outlook which sees the mind as emergent from the brain (or even the extreme materialist viewpoint - see the Churchlands for examples - which writes out the mind as irrelevant) is as sufficient in explanatory power as the more complex dualist models which posit two worlds, one of ideas, and one of matter. I will admit that I do have a soft spot for the occasionalist model, but only because of its extreme perversity...

So the question is then why chose a materialist model over an idealist one? In answer to that I would say that the general benefits of historical materialist thought outweigh those that depend on the ideal, and also because our immediate sense data strongly suggests the existence of the material world (although they may very well be deceived, they do at least create the impression of an arena in which we are able to operate quite effectively on the basis of believing it to be real).


EDIT: I should note that I also see much of value in Spinoza's cunning strategy of using two different models, one materialist, one idealist, to describe the same basic plenum: but in the end he comes down for really just using whatever model (or way of viewing the cosmos) as is most efficient for our aims, and so despite appearing to be a dualist, he is in fact a monist of a rather interesting kind.



Sure, why not? After all, this is NationStates. ;)

Indeed, maybe we should find a mind/body topic and hijack it with a discussion of "Boobs or buts" (sic.) in order to redress the balance.

One butt, one boob...

Haha! You got the boob right!
;)

"I like big butts and I can not lie."

But boobs are better! Come on this topic is supposed to be low-brow and flagged for deletion not debating the mind! *sigh* only online could this sort of thing happen...

The Brain is a collection of cells.
The Mind is a result of those cells.
The Soul is a construction of the Mind to justify its meaningless existance.
The Butt is the closest thing humans have to divinity.

Hurray for boobies!

No, there is no definite evidence that it is, but there is certainly strong circumstantial evidence: the fact that when an individual believes their mind to be particularly active the brain can be observed to also be particularly active. This at least suggests a linkage between the two. Similarly, if the brain is tampered with then differences in the actviity of the mind are reported.

It thus appears that we can draw a tentative connection between brain activity and the activity of the rest of the body: I doubt that you would deny that.

In the end it comes down to which model has the greatest explicative power whilst avoiding complicating the matter needlessly (although it is obviously not clear that the simplest model must be the correct one, if it is sufficient to explain the related problems as well as or better than a more complex model, then there is no reason to opt for the more complication explanation).

In my opinion the materialist outlook which sees the mind as emergent from the brain (or even the extreme materialist viewpoint - see the Churchlands for examples - which writes out the mind as irrelevant) is as sufficient in explanatory power as the more complex dualist models which posit two worlds, one of ideas, and one of matter. I will admit that I do have a soft spot for the occasionalist model, but only because of its extreme perversity...

So the question is then why chose a materialist model over an idealist one? In answer to that I would say that the general benefits of historical materialist thought outweigh those that depend on the ideal, and also because our immediate sense data strongly suggests the existence of the material world (although they may very well be deceived, they do at least create the impression of an arena in which we are able to operate quite effectively on the basis of believing it to be real).


A very thorough answer. :)

I can, of course, only agree with your statement that there is strong circumstantial evidence that links the mind and the brain.

The reason for my inquiry originated simply from you speaking as if it had been proven that one indeed is emergent from the other. But now you admit that it really is just a matter of circumstantial evidence and personal preference, something I agree with as well.

I can, of course, only agree with your statement that there is strong circumstantial evidence that links the mind and the brain.

The strength of that circumstantial evidence is of course dependent on how one defines the mind: one can cut away a lot from the traditional definition (which is somewhat heavily based on an assumption of dualism) without any great loss and so strengthen the materialist (or at least monist) case.

The problem here is that you assume that there is a universal, ahistorical aesthetic which defines what the correct bodyform/quality of beauty is: a look across cultures and through history shows us that this is not the case. You conception of gone to "shit" may be highly prized in other cultures.

I'm saying fat is the antithesis of hot. Don't whine about gland problems, don't bitch about anorexic supermodels setting an impossibly high standard blah blah blah. Get off your goddamn ass once in a while, take the stairs, put the fork down, don't dip that twinkie in mayonnaise, and frozen yogurt actually tastes BETTER than regular ice cream. You don't need to work out and diet constantly to stay fit. Has any medical professional warned against the dangers of muscle tone and low bodyfat?

frozen yogurt actually tastes BETTER than regular ice cream.

Damn, this cannot stand! You'll be saying next that that skimmed and semi-skimmed white stuff is milk. It's not! It's the spawn of the devil, as has been scientifically proved. Fat is good (the stuff you eat, not the stuff you wear on your bones).

Anyways, back on topic. My favourite theory of the mind/brain is the one that's says the former is just the manifestation of waste products of the latter. Can't remember what its called, but it's a lulu for throwing at New Age types.

PS: What do I notice/most like about members of the opposite sex? Why, that they are members of the opposite sex of course.

I'm saying fat is the antithesis of hot.

In today's Western world that may be the prevalent opinion, but there certainly exist individuals that hold a very different opinioin, and if we look back at history (even remaining in our western context) we find that in the C17th the ideal female form was a very plump one - possibly this was connected to the fact that it was the ruling classes that could afford to eat well and so gain weight, trophy wives back then conformed to a very different standard of beauty to the anorexic-tendency influenced one of today. If we look at the nude in art at the time, we see this tendency towards the plump and the fat to be also displayed there.

The very existence of the word "zwaftig" or "zaftig" meaning alluringly plump, argues against your assertion.


The object lesson here? Archetypes and standards of beauty are culturally and historically specific, and even within one culture at one time there is a wide diversity of different standards.


Similarly, I'm sure that adherents to the Eastern standard of beauty - the crippled foot-bound woman are few and far between in the world today...

Face. :)

Looks like I'm more unusual than I suspected, but even though I might notice the general proportions first, if I don't find their eyes attractive I'll look elsewhere. Of course, brains and personality are essential too, but I'm speaking of physical attraction, not spiritual/mental.

(BTW, this coming from a female judging males.)

"I like big butts and I can not lie."

Sir-Mix-A-Lot - "Rumpshaker"

And I like legs.

I definately notice hair first, I like long hair and small beards (yes I'm talking about guys) but how good looking I think someone is gets drastically changed but how much I like their personality, so that people I initially judged as hot really turn ugly if I don't like them, and people I didn't notice at all become very attractive if I start to like them. I think this is a good thing, because it means I don't ever have to rule out someone because I don't like how they look. I know if it is the right person, subjectively to me they will look great.

If a woman has beautiful eyes, I'm hooked; she doesn't need to have anything else. :)

The eyes-Always look at the eyes first.

Legs, then eyes, then dress sense, then voice, then behaviour.

Yes, I know I am very shallow.

Ah, the Oedipal issues that this thread rises.

since chicks often have their backs to me, i would have to say hair

I, personally, always seem to notice the persons smile. You can really tell a lot by that simple pull of muscle. Treachery, lechery, sweet, sour, sardonic, shy.. it all comes from a smile.

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Sir-Mix-A-Lot - "Rumpshaker"

And I like legs.

It's actually called "Baby Got Back", but oh well.

Here's my answer:
I'm not a butt fan. I mean honestly, if you think about their purpose, it's like.. ick.
I do, however, find it interesting that 'genitalia' is an option on the list. I mean, how many people are just walking around noticing other people's genitals?
Is there a country where everyone walks around nude looking at each other's privates?
Where is this country, and how soon can I get there?

I picked eyes. I don't really go for looks, usually, but I always notice eyes. As the 'mirror to the soul', I can tell a lot about a guy from his eyes. Some people just have those eyes that draw you in, where you simply can't look away. Others have blank, flat, dead-looking eyes. I can't stand those kind..

There is no defining point when admiring a women.
Each women has her own beauty. This is something that cannot be copied and should not.

what do boobies feel like?

Ah, a tactless superficial subject degenerates into deep philosophy.

Yes my whole idea of making a topic as a counterweight to the serious issues has gone to waste by a mind/body philosophy.. Oooh sweet lord, why? Why can't we just talk about brests and buts without some person nagging about a mind? When you see a poster of a model, do you say....nah her mind sucks?


Anyhow, I might as well join in the conversation... :D

This subject isn't tactless, its an ode to the beauty of the human body. That fine piece of art that has resulted in millions of fine pieces of art...(greek statues, Rubens, Egon Schiele, erotic photography, ...).

I once wrote something to defend ehr, something. Let me quote myself.
The feelings and character of a woman can only add to her attraction, but unfortunatly it is hard to visualise a women's charactre on first sight. And I said sight, not after a talk or a math quiz... :p

what do boobies feel like?
like a butt with nipples

In today's Western world that may be the prevalent opinion, but there certainly exist individuals that hold a very different opinioin, and if we look back at history (even remaining in our western context) we find that in the C17th the ideal female form was a very plump one - possibly this was connected to the fact that it was the ruling classes that could afford to eat well and so gain weight, trophy wives back then conformed to a very different standard of beauty to the anorexic-tendency influenced one of today. If we look at the nude in art at the time, we see this tendency towards the plump and the fat to be also displayed there.

The very existence of the word "zwaftig" or "zaftig" meaning alluringly plump, argues against your assertion.


The object lesson here? Archetypes and standards of beauty are culturally and historically specific, and even within one culture at one time there is a wide diversity of different standards.


Similarly, I'm sure that adherents to the Eastern standard of beauty - the crippled foot-bound woman are few and far between in the world today...

Yes and we have our great Rubens to proove it! http://gallery.euroweb.hu/art/r/rubens/21mythol/04venusm.jpg
But still, she still has a waste doesn't she. You know what really bothers me? Fat people who go to a fastfood "restaurant" order a diet coke.... and then start eating burgers. ... and eventually they end up pressing a law suit against mac donalds because "mac donalds is making them fat". Yup always blame the other guy.

Boobies!!!!
well said :)

Hooray for boobies!

I love the Bloodhound Gang just because they made that title up

First look: Hair. I love long, flowing hair. The longer the better, y'know.

Most important: Brain. A girl must be intelligent for me to remain interested.

No, there is no definite evidence that it is, but there is certainly strong circumstantial evidence: the fact that when an individual believes their mind to be particularly active the brain can be observed to also be particularly active. This at least suggests a linkage between the two. Similarly, if the brain is tampered with then differences in the actviity of the mind are reported....

etc, etc, cut by me when quoting...

...os) as is most efficient for our aims, and so despite appearing to be a dualist, he is in fact a monist of a rather interesting kind.




You have clearly studied this topic to the extent that you know more than a little about it. This is against the spirit of NS and I'd be grateful if you'd in future confine your comments to topics you know nothing about, like everyone else.

EDIT:
Oh, and butts. They are significantly more equal-opportunities and have much greater possibilities.

Mind every time. When you're a genius like me you need mental stimulation, looks can only ever take you so far, especially if you're blind.

ok, i picked other. Call me superficial, but yes i do notice the overall physique of a guy, BUT i definately look at the oral cavity especially the teeth. if its healthy, the guy is cute, if its not healthy, i wouldnt want to kiss the guy or touch him with a 10 foot pole :)
most diseases end up showing in the mouth too btw... its like im going to auction and checking out the horses haha.

The question is “What do you notice first or like the most when meeting the other sex?” so an answer that mentions only physical traits is not shallow since quite honestly you appearance is the first thing everyone notices (except blind people, my blind brother can tell who you are by the pattern of your foot steps and breathing).

So by looks, I normally notice the general health of the person. Of course this is discerned form the hair, eyes, skin tone and quality, muscle tone, etc. Actually I really like good skin!

ok, i picked other. Call me superficial, but yes i do notice the overall physique of a guy, BUT i definately look at the oral cavity especially the teeth. if its healthy, the guy is cute, if its not healthy, i wouldnt want to kiss the guy or touch him with a 10 foot pole :)
most diseases end up showing in the mouth too btw... its like im going to auction and checking out the horses haha.

In that case, never come to Europe looking for a man.

In that case, never come to Europe looking for a man.
Lol, don't get me started about teeth. God make us Europeans with a strange assortment of tombstones in our mouths, especially us Brits. <tangent>But seriously, why do so many Americans have there teeth made to look perfect? Is there anything natural left in the USA?</tangent>

Brains....delicious brains.

The X-Factor! :D

You have clearly studied this topic to the extent that you know more than a little about it. This is against the spirit of NS and I'd be grateful if you'd in future confine your comments to topics you know nothing about, like everyone else.


Bwahhahahahaahah! Best line ever.

:D Top marks.

First of all: my congratulations to Independant Homesteads: that was a particularly good call sir/ma'am

I notice most of the above features upon immediate contact: but overall the girl's proportions in general are the most important phsyical feature to me. Followed closely by a fine ass. Oh yeah.

On the other hand, when dealing with cute guys, it's got to be hair: especially blonde hair. Why is it that blonde hair makes cute guys that much better? :eek:

In that case, never come to Europe looking for a man.

Don't generalise man... We Belgians and Dutch have a very good rep concerning dental care, especially the Dutch, famous for their strong teeth :p...

Anyhow, when the sun hits my porcelain babies, passing automobilists think they've been flashed by a speed control radar.

[this post may or may not have been slightly exaggerated.]

First of all: my congratulations to Independant Homesteads: that was a particularly good call sir/ma'am

I notice most of the above features upon immediate contact: but overall the girl's proportions in general are the most important phsyical feature to me. Followed closely by a fine ass. Oh yeah.

On the other hand, when dealing with cute guys, it's got to be hair: especially blonde hair. Why is it that blonde hair makes cute guys that much better? :eek:

thanks :)

blonde hair makes people look cuter because it makes them look more defenceless, baby-like and dependant. If you like blonds, see a shrink, you have issues. How do you feel about tumbling preraphaelite copper curls?

Don't generalise man... We Belgians and Dutch have a very good rep concerning dental care, especially the Dutch, famous for their strong teeth :p...

Anyhow, when the sun hits my porcelain babies, passing automobilists think they've been flashed by a speed control radar.

[this post may or may not have been slightly exaggerated.]

Where are the dutch famous for their strong teeth, other than holland? Everywhere in the world, the dutch are famous for their mild cheese, weak drug laws, strong marijuana and the part of their capital city where naked women flash their nipples out of shop windows. I never heard anything about teeth. I heard yall drink a lot of milk, and that's why you're so tall.

i voted for Butt :cool:

and i give you a tip...please learn english, if you want to start another vote :rolleyes: ;)

Where are the dutch famous for their strong teeth, other than holland? Everywhere in the world, the dutch are famous for their mild cheese, weak drug laws, strong marijuana and the part of their capital city where naked women flash their nipples out of shop windows. I never heard anything about teeth. I heard yall drink a lot of milk, and that's why you're so tall.
hooray for milk: THE best non-alcoholic beverage!

i voted for Butt :cool:

and i give you a tip...please learn english, if you want to start another vote :rolleyes: ;)


even in jest, i don't support the idea that you can only start a poll if you speak good english

thanks :)

blonde hair makes people look cuter because it makes them look more defenceless, baby-like and dependant. If you like blonds, see a shrink, you have issues. How do you feel about tumbling preraphaelite copper curls?

Spoken like a true, jealous brunette (or preraphaelite copper curls);)

Oh thats another thing: curls (and I mean sort of the longish curls, not like hair which is only vaguely better than public hair) can actually look damn good. But only on girls methinks

i voted for Butt :cool:

and i give you a tip...please learn english, if you want to start another vote :rolleyes: ;)
"Butt" is an American word not an English one...If we're talking in English then we'll have 'arse', 'bottom' and 'bum' if you please...Possibly with a smattering of 'backsides' and 'buttocks'...
I dunno about curls only working on girls....I had my hair curled the other week and it looked kinda nice...

Oh thats another thing: curls (and I mean sort of the longish curls, not like hair which is only vaguely better than public hair) can actually look damn good. But only on girls methinks
Only long curls (not pubic hair: Morokko, PUBIC without an L... public hair :D). Most long hair is sexy. Even on boys.

eyes

Only long curls (not pubic hair: Morokko, PUBIC without an L... public hair :D). Most long hair is sexy. Even on boys.

"public hair" opps, touche (Morroko- 1 R, 2 Ks lol).

Dunno about long haired guys, personally I think it depends very much upon the guy in question, i.e. take it on an individual basis.

Whereas, there is simply no denying how good pig-tails look on girls (even some boys, so long as it's done properly) and Dreds on guys

"public hair" opps, touche (Morroko- 1 R, 2 Ks lol).

Dunno about long haired guys, personally I think it depends very much upon the guy in question, i.e. take it on an individual basis.

Whereas, there is simply no denying how good pig-tails look on girls (even some boys, so long as it's done properly) and Dreds on guys


public hair is the opposite of pubic hair. 2 pig tails, plaited down from just behind the ears, that is cute, girls or guys. dreds look good on girls and guys too, nasty scuzzy ones, not little skinny cornrow things that lie flat on your head

"public hair" opps, touche (Morroko- 1 R, 2 Ks lol).

Dunno about long haired guys, personally I think it depends very much upon the guy in question, i.e. take it on an individual basis.

Whereas, there is simply no denying how good pig-tails look on girls (even some boys, so long as it's done properly) and Dreds on guys
Pigtails on boys? I hope you mean ponytail (like Steven Seagal only not so crappy)
And Dreds? They are so randy. You can't even wash them properly. yuk

I notice whether they can spell properly and have a reasonable command of English grammar.

I can't say that I like dreds on girls, but then the girls w/dreds that I have seen would look shocking with anything on their heads.

By pigtails on guys I mean basically a long, losely plaited job at the back of their heads. None of this pissy little rat tail crap for me thanks.

Oh and yes, for dreds to be good, they just have to be of a decent size. Not a collection of skipping roles

Although cleaning them is a problem, the attachment is, imo, what dreds are meant to be (edit: actually perhaps a tad thicker, and I hate the region of their hair before the actual dreds and their forehead....what the hell is that meant to be?)

I can't say that I like dreds on girls, but then the girls w/dreds that I have seen would look shocking with anything on their heads.

By pigtails on guys I mean basically a long, losely plaited job at the back of their heads. None of this pissy little rat tail crap for me thanks.

Oh and yes, for dreds to be good, they just have to be of a decent size. Not a collection of skipping roles

Although cleaning them is a problem, the attachment is, imo, what dreds are meant to be (edit: actually perhaps a tad thicker, and I hate the region of their hair before the actual dreds and their forehead....what the hell is that meant to be?)

Yeah, an extended pre-dred fringe thing? what all is it about? I think much thicker, thick enough to have a bit of depth on top the head. And you can clean em fine - i had dreds for about 4 years, and once they were grown in i could wash em with shampoo and all. girls with big skanky dreads look fantastic, especially with colours in, and bits of wool and stuff

Lol, don't get me started about teeth. God make us Europeans with a strange assortment of tombstones in our mouths, especially us Brits. <tangent>But seriously, why do so many Americans have there teeth made to look perfect? Is there anything natural left in the USA?</tangent>
we do our teeth because
1) mom and dad usually pay for it
2) its "cheap" in that if you do it the slow way you pay over time not all at once
3) it almost always produces a good result
4) no risk of dying from it, unlike cosmetic surgery
5) a good smile is "forever" if you take reasonable care of it.

so a man with a good smile is very attractive, even if he doesnt have perfect teeth. a man with poor oral hygiene is repulsive.

a man who dresses well without looking obsessive about it is very attractive

a man who knows what to do with his hair is very attractive. "even" a bald man can be very attractive if he knows what to do with the hair he has left.

i have an embarassing attraction to men with goatees.

but you have all overlooked one big factor

scent

there are times when one is in public that one passes a man who is wearing a scent that, mixed with his own natural scent, makes him SO masculine that it stops a woman in her tracks. its like being slapped in the face with sexual attraction. she just has to stop and regroup and decide what she is going to do next.

Yes and we have our great Rubens to proove it! http://gallery.euroweb.hu/art/r/rubens/21mythol/04venusm.jpg

Yeah: I was stumbling through mt rant trying to remember Rubens' name - the closest I got was 'Titianesque', which I knew wasn't correct. The answer, of course, came to me long after the computer had been turned off for the night.

You have clearly studied this topic to the extent that you know more than a little about it. This is against the spirit of NS and I'd be grateful if you'd in future confine your comments to topics you know nothing about, like everyone else.

Ok, sorry for letting the side down, how about:

MAterIaLism is Teh Roxor!!!!!SHIFT1111111111111
ScgientIFIC tehories ov an EMERGENT MIND as a result ov teh self-organising shtructures of teh BRAIN pwns teh god + ghost bois!!!!
Like WTF do they do 2 Xplain how teh BODY + teh MIND intereact?????
SPINozA > CHEese eating Surrender munky DeSCartes!!!1OMFG!!!!!!!!

so a man with a good smile is very attractive, even if he doesnt have perfect teeth. a man with poor oral hygiene is repulsive.

a man who dresses well without looking obsessive about it is very attractive

a man who knows what to do with his hair is very attractive. "even" a bald man can be very attractive if he knows what to do with the hair he has left.

i have an embarassing attraction to men with goatees.

but you have all overlooked one big factor

scent

there are times when one is in public that one passes a man who is wearing a scent that, mixed with his own natural scent, makes him SO masculine that it stops a woman in her tracks. its like being slapped in the face with sexual attraction. she just has to stop and regroup and decide what she is going to do next.

AHA! Finally someone notices the missing option...I was going to wait to see how long it would take before this would be noticed. I'm the same way (and I'm a guy).

By the way, I voted for general overall features as physical attraction. My favorite though is the eyes.

thanks :)

blonde hair makes people look cuter because it makes them look more defenceless, baby-like and dependant. If you like blonds, see a shrink, you have issues. How do you feel about tumbling preraphaelite copper curls?

A scientific study showed that blonde women produce more female feromones and are usually fertiler than other women. That should be the reason why many men find blondes, even fake ones, more attractive... I didn't say all blondes. :p

i voted for Butt :cool:

and i give you a tip...please learn english, if you want to start another vote :rolleyes: ;)

I know english enough, you learn my language and then we'll talk, ok?

Where are the dutch famous for their strong teeth, other than holland? Everywhere in the world, the dutch are famous for their mild cheese, weak drug laws, strong marijuana and the part of their capital city where naked women flash their nipples out of shop windows. I never heard anything about teeth. I heard yall drink a lot of milk, and that's why you're so tall.

in belgium they are famous for their strong teeth :D, then again, we like to laugh at duthmen (all in good fun, a bit rivalry). They tend to have rather larges front teeth, not always, but much more frequent then other people. :D ;)

I'd sooner lose my mind before posting on this thread.
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