NationStates Jolt Archive


All Yankees look the same.

Mora Tau
19-09-2004, 13:51
It's true! From where I stand (Australia) I've noticed all yanks I've seen pics of (except Bush... but he's from another planet) and met have this odd sort of of pudginess about their faces... they look deceptively innocent and revoltingly sweet. They have dreadful accents that are utter disgraces and they can't do anything right! They drive on the wrong side of the road! They call footpaths 'sidewalks' and pronounce z 'zee' instead of 'zed'. They spell 'honour' wrong and devote large portions of their existance debating the various merits of different hamburger joints.

Whereas most Australians have a far more cunning, smart, intelligent look to them (at least on the East Coast, everyone west of there is a half-wit). We have thinner faces and are generally thinner and more British (well, the ones that originally came from England the Motherland) than the other colonies. We tend to debate the various merits of things like the comparitive brilliance of Marxism to that of the Kropotkinist variety of anarchism. And of course the superiority of Australian hardcore punk to that of Swedish and Belgian harcore punk.

Anyway, I don't know why I've written this. Stuff it, I'm off to bomb a McDonald's.

Christina
Bottle
19-09-2004, 14:00
. They have dreadful accents that are utter disgraces
Christina
dude, is an AUSTRALIAN really trying to mock somebody else's accent? i mean, come on, even my Aussie roommate used to freely acknowledge that the Aussie accent is an international joke. you need to lighten up, Christina.
Kleptonis
19-09-2004, 14:08
Being from America, I'd have to disagree, since the way people look changes on what part of America they're from. Of course it's probably the same for Aussies, the Brits, and the Irish, but in America, they're all the same to us.

Although now I'm curious about what an American accent souds like.
The fairy tinkerbelly
19-09-2004, 14:16
dude, is an AUSTRALIAN really trying to mock somebody else's accent? i mean, come on, even my Aussie roommate used to freely acknowledge that the Aussie accent is an international joke. you need to lighten up, Christina.
I think the Aussie accent is very sexy!
Kryozerkia
19-09-2004, 14:17
Although now I'm curious about what an American accent souds like.

To some Canadians, the American accent sounds, almost ignorant. Now, I'm not saying all Americans are ignorant, I'm just saying that the accent creates that illusion.

I find that even in Illnois (Chicago), from where we get one of our broadcast channels, they talk oddly... They put an odd emphasis on the letter "a".

Americans from the central states also sound very odd. There is way to actually describe it. It's almost bland compared to the other accents in American.

...and, we won't go into bible belt and southern Americans - they are in a class of their own. They have this lazy drawl. THe rednecks sound like real hicks; the pronounciation makes even the smartest ( :eek: ) sound very stupid....
International spies
19-09-2004, 14:19
Mora Tau, your insites into America and Australia alike are incredibly compelling. Please, share some more of your infinite wisdom.
Bottle
19-09-2004, 14:19
I think the Aussie accent is very sexy!
well, the Crocodile Dundee thing can be pretty hot, i grant you...big, burly, tanned bloke asking me if i call that a knife will do it for me every time...
Jeruselem
19-09-2004, 14:20
Can the US claim John Howard as a US citizen and take him to US where he really belongs? I'm sure he has no problems getting a new accent.
Bottle
19-09-2004, 14:22
Being from America, I'd have to disagree, since the way people look changes on what part of America they're from. Of course it's probably the same for Aussies, the Brits, and the Irish, but in America, they're all the same to us.

Although now I'm curious about what an American accent souds like.
yeah, that's just the problem...there ISN'T an American accent. there's a Southern accent, a general Midwestern accent, and a very very general Northwestern accent, but there are also so many other very distinct and recognizable accents: the New York, the Boston, the Northern Minnesotan/Dakotan, the Texan southern, the Missoura drawl, the list goes on. anybody who thinks there is an "American accent" has probably met a grand total of one American in their lifetime :).
Shona
19-09-2004, 14:23
Are all Australians xenophobic like yourself too?
I'm not from America but if i were, i'd be pretty pissed off at what you just said! You really shouldn't stereotype like that.
Ashmoria
19-09-2004, 14:31
Are all Australians xenophobic like yourself too?
I'm not from America but if i were, i'd be pretty pissed off at what you just said! You really shouldn't stereotype like that.

thats why it was FUNNY

we can take a joke

if we can figure out that it IS a joke
Luckdonia
19-09-2004, 14:32
It's true! From where I stand (Australia) I've noticed all yanks I've seen pics of (except Bush... but he's from another planet) and met have this odd sort of of pudginess about their faces... they look deceptively innocent and revoltingly sweet. They have dreadful accents that are utter disgraces and they can't do anything right! They drive on the wrong side of the road! They call footpaths 'sidewalks' and pronounce z 'zee' instead of 'zed'. They spell 'honour' wrong and devote large portions of their existance debating the various merits of different hamburger joints.

Whereas most Australians have a far more cunning, smart, intelligent look to them (at least on the East Coast, everyone west of there is a half-wit). We have thinner faces and are generally thinner and more British (well, the ones that originally came from England the Motherland) than the other colonies. We tend to debate the various merits of things like the comparitive brilliance of Marxism to that of the Kropotkinist variety of anarchism. And of course the superiority of Australian hardcore punk to that of Swedish and Belgian harcore punk.

Anyway, I don't know why I've written this. Stuff it, I'm off to bomb a McDonald's.

Christina

Wow! talk about flamebait!
I'n British, so it saddens me to see you don't like people from a former British colony,seeing as you come from a former British (prison) colony yourself.
I will say in the Yanks defence that there is no such thing as a "U.S. accent" really,as each region has a unique sound.Much like Britain.
Someone from say,Texas,is VERY different from say,a New York accent.
I have to say I find American womens accents very sexy.
I COULD say how the vast majority of Australians are descended from Villians and assorted scum that were not fit to live here centuries ago,hence the "cunning" look you mention.
I COULD say how every Australian I have met only seem to discuss the merits of various beer brands and Vegemite.
I COULD say how most of the various Aussie bars in London have a reputation for unprovoked violence,to the point that several police cars park outside them on Fridays & Weekends.
But I won't.
Because they would just be vast Generalisations-do you see?
:p
Luckdonia
19-09-2004, 14:39
Oh,and there is no such thing as a "stupid" accent-
It is all a matter of opinion and perspective.
Kanabia
19-09-2004, 15:07
They drive on the wrong side of the road!

Yeah, well so do I, and i'm Australian too. LOL

pronounce z 'zee' instead of 'zed'.
So do I. I never knew that was wrong.

Wait....Sesame Street must have indoctrinated me! Gnnngh.

Whereas most Australians have a far more cunning, smart, intelligent look to them (at least on the East Coast, everyone west of there is a half-wit).

Ha, I was born in Adelaide, moved to Perth, then moved to Melbourne. I've had the complete opposite experience.

We tend to debate the various merits of things like the comparitive brilliance of Marxism to that of the Kropotkinist variety of anarchism.
Uhh...where?

And of course the superiority of Australian hardcore punk to that of Swedish and Belgian harcore punk.
Uhh...again, where?

I can think of a whole 2 decent bands, Bombscare and Pillspoof.

dude, is an AUSTRALIAN really trying to mock somebody else's accent? i mean, come on, even my Aussie roommate used to freely acknowledge that the Aussie accent is an international joke. you need to lighten up, Christina.

The Australian accent portrayed in movies like Crocodile Dundee and by Steve Irwin for example is NOT the average accent. People who speak like that are ridiculed here, too.

Oh yeah, and I hate the really nasal american accent. Ugh. Not sure which state or area thats specific to, but it is very annoying.

I have to say I find American womens accents very sexy.
I most certainly don't. The British accent is better :p

I COULD say how the vast majority of Australians are descended from Villians and assorted scum that were not fit to live here centuries ago,hence the "cunning" look you mention

Thats not even a generalisation, that's completely untrue. The vast majority of Australians are descended from normal immigrants, not convicts.
Zooke
19-09-2004, 15:37
Please allow me to speak for the US south. First of all, the accent we associate with the northeast accent grates on southern nerves. The folks up there speak too quickly, as if they're in a rush to be done with you, and it seems as though there are 2 "a"s and 1/2 an "r" in their alphabet. We realize that there are destinctions in accents associated with New York City's different boroughs, Boston, Maine, New Jersey, etc. However, the distinctions have a tendancy to blur for the southern ear. Midwesterners, with the exception of Chicago (who seem to have a unique accent of their own), sound like they have stuffed noses and they, too, speak very fast. West coast, esp California, seems to rely heavily on slang, like, you know? Now, for us southerners. First of all, the south does not all speak with the same accent. If you listen, you can tell if someone came from Louisiana, Georgia, Alabama, one of the Carolinas, Arkansas (sounds a lot like Mississippi), and especially Texas. Bless their twangy little hearts!! Language experts say that the southeast coastal states' accents most closley resembles the British accent, particularly in the Appalachians, not so you would notice, though. Probably the most uninflected English spoken in the US can be found in the desert states. At least the Native Americans sound pretty "unaccented" to me though their speech patterns seem to be rather flat with little emotion shown.

As for the Aussies...I can't really comment on their accents as I usually have no idea what they're saying. Is it English? :confused:
La Terra di Liberta
19-09-2004, 15:40
Sometimes, I can't understand Aussies or South Eastern Americans. As for Americans all looking alike, you must ignore the fact that they have such a high percentage of immagrants and visible minorities. It's assuming every American is white. It's a similar statement to say all Canadians say "eh" even though if you went to Toronto (which has 53% of it's resident born in other countries besides Canada) and went into one of many neighbourhoods, you wouldn't hear "eh" once.
Techon
19-09-2004, 15:43
No offense, but out of the Aulstralians I have met all of them have looked like surf bums
Demented Hamsters
19-09-2004, 15:45
Whereas most Australians have a far more cunning, smart, intelligent look to them
I take it you've never been to an Aussie rules, rugby league or cricket match then.
Mezzaluna
19-09-2004, 15:56
It's true! From where I stand (Australia) I've noticed all yanks I've seen pics of (except Bush... but he's from another planet) and met have this odd sort of of pudginess about their faces... they look deceptively innocent and revoltingly sweet.

<snip>

Teehee. That's marvelous. As a pudgy-faced yank myself, I have to say that "deceptively innocent and revoltingly sweet" is a description that I enjoy utterly. I'm going to be grinning a deceptively innocent, revoltingly sweet grin all day now!
Jets to Brazil
19-09-2004, 15:56
i dont know what american's your looking at? i realize that I am very sweet and innocent looking, but im not pudgy. If i were a racist bitch i might say that all aussies and brits have crooked ass teeth and quite an imbred look. but im not, so i know "pure" anglos can be cool dudes and sexy chicas.

In my experience all americans look different, in fact, everybody with a multi-ethnic culture has different looking ppl. (excluding nations like japan, india, and france- robots i tell ya ;) JOKING!)

fuck, i got arab friends, white friends, and im fucking half spanish-- why are you so proud of your "white gb look"? intelligent? no. Stupid? perhaps. Arrogant? definately.
Irrational Numbers
19-09-2004, 16:04
Please allow me to speak for the US south. First of all, the accent we associate with the northeast accent grates on southern nerves. The folks up there speak too quickly, as if they're in a rush to be done with you, and it seems as though there are 2 "a"s and 1/2 an "r" in their alphabet.

I feel like joking about myself, so here are some hilarity about the northeast (more specifically Long Island/NYC Metro Area). There is a joke that Long Island stole all of NYC's "r"s. Sometimes you can catch people saying "idear", for "idea", rawr for raw, tear tor tea. Anything ending in a vowel gets an "r" added on to the end. Also, "a"s turn into grazy things such as "cawfee" and "baygel" and "owh mwy gawwwwwwwd! lets gow two thwah mawwwwwwwwl!!!!!!!!!SHIFT+1+22975039578&&&&&&&".

Yeah... it gets that bad. (I've often heard the mall as being called a Long Island "cultural landmark," it makes me want to cry.)

But whats even funnier is that going in and out of the city, and just being near nyc and people coming in and out of here, people also speak with NYC accents, which seem to have lost any sound that is phonetically spelled with an "h." So people here seem to mix the speak with both accents at the same time, and if you're from around here, this probably dulls your senses to the point where all accents seem the same. If you're not from around here you'll probably think we're from some island between the U.S. and Europe (which we are... I guess....)
1248B
19-09-2004, 16:15
Anyway, I don't know why I've written this.
Christina

Because you felt like posting some flamebait?:rolleyes:
GrayFriars
19-09-2004, 16:49
It's true! From where I stand (Australia) I've noticed all yanks I've seen pics of (except Bush... but he's from another planet) and met have this odd sort of of pudginess about their faces... they look deceptively innocent and revoltingly sweet. They have dreadful accents that are utter disgraces and they can't do anything right! They drive on the wrong side of the road! They call footpaths 'sidewalks' and pronounce z 'zee' instead of 'zed'. They spell 'honour' wrong and devote large portions of their existance debating the various merits of different hamburger joints.

Whereas most Australians have a far more cunning, smart, intelligent look to them (at least on the East Coast, everyone west of there is a half-wit). We have thinner faces and are generally thinner and more British (well, the ones that originally came from England the Motherland) than the other colonies. We tend to debate the various merits of things like the comparitive brilliance of Marxism to that of the Kropotkinist variety of anarchism. And of course the superiority of Australian hardcore punk to that of Swedish and Belgian harcore punk.

Anyway, I don't know why I've written this. Stuff it, I'm off to bomb a McDonald's.

Christina
we love you too!
Kryozerkia
19-09-2004, 16:52
Because you felt like posting some flamebait?:rolleyes:
You certainly don't beat around the bush ;)
Ashmoria
19-09-2004, 16:55
No offense, but out of the Aulstralians I have met all of them have looked like surf bums

is that supposed to be a BAD thing??
Siljhouettes
19-09-2004, 16:57
And of course the superiority of Australian hardcore punk to that of Swedish and Belgian harcore punk.
That might be true, but Swedish metal owns Aussie metal. The Berzerker vs. Opeth, anyone?
Suicidal Librarians
19-09-2004, 18:15
To some Canadians, the American accent sounds, almost ignorant. Now, I'm not saying all Americans are ignorant, I'm just saying that the accent creates that illusion.

I find that even in Illnois (Chicago), from where we get one of our broadcast channels, they talk oddly... They put an odd emphasis on the letter "a".

Americans from the central states also sound very odd. There is way to actually describe it. It's almost bland compared to the other accents in American.

...and, we won't go into bible belt and southern Americans - they are in a class of their own. They have this lazy drawl. THe rednecks sound like real hicks; the pronounciation makes even the smartest ( :eek: ) sound very stupid....

The whole "a" thing is a midwestern trait, I know that I do it. The Americans (from central states) sound bland because we probably have the least accent in the United States. The way Midwesterners talk just makes the English language very boring. But at least we are generally understood. People from Boston and people from the South are extremely hard to make out. And I have quite a time with Australian and certain British accents, too.

But back to the topic of this thread, I don't think all Americans look exactly alike at all. Walk into one of my classrooms and everyone looks different. We have different builds, hair colors, eye colors, etc. Americans have so many different origins that it isn't very likely that we all look the same.
Mora Tau
20-09-2004, 04:59
Ahh, yes, they never fail to drag out the stereotypical Australian, do they? Yes, I imagine that in Australia, somewhere, they IS an Australian who sits around going, ""Arrrr, get a lamington in ya, son, an' look at the head on that crocadile. I'd sure like to sock it one. Anyway, what were ya sayin', lad? Ooooh, yes, I don't like this chloride in the water, I don't, oooohhh, I'll 'ave a word to my local chancellor, I will! Bloody hell! An' what's this about them damn wogs, them bloody German, bloody, Polish, bloody... bloody... moving into our beautiful town! I want have it, I say, no I bloody well won't have it, I say, I won't, by Jove!""

And I must say, German accents I can taken. Japanese with ease, Russian with pleasure and British with joy. I can handle South African, Indian, Libyan, Indonesian, French, Venezuelan! Even New Zealandish and Cuban and even Canadian!!! But I cannot under any curcumstances bear to hear an American accents. Every time I do, I scream at the top of my voice the Soviet national anthem in an effort to drown it out. No, cannot take it. I meet Americans on the street belting out at full throttle how much they loooove Australia for its beautiful weather and its relaxed, easy going and happy attitudes and the relaxed Asutralian way of life, I want to kill them!! They say, "Hey, thar, sistaar, yo so lucky tah live in Ooorrrrstraylia, so frrree of strrress." O yeah, sure. Just ignore the fact that my best friend was raped and murdered by an American, just ignore the fact that our government LIES to us daily, that every day and every night we see horrendous pictures of yankee atrocities in the middle east, the fact that the media has blinded most Australians to the point where the most racist, hypocritical, sadistic, criminal and hate-filled person in Australia, Pauline Hanson is set to be voted into the Senate... the very media that is owned by our darling compatriate Rupert Murdoch who has sold out to America and become an American, somewhat mysteriously... and they come and say to us "wee admahre yoo Ooorstrraylians fer yerr rrrelaxed waay of laafe." Pardon me for just simply HATING them!

Yes, I love you too,
Christina
Mora Tau
20-09-2004, 05:03
Your turn.
Black Umbrella
20-09-2004, 05:31
It's true! From where I stand (Australia) I've noticed all yanks I've seen pics of (except Bush... but he's from another planet) and met have this odd sort of of pudginess about their faces... they look deceptively innocent and revoltingly sweet. They have dreadful accents that are utter disgraces and they can't do anything right! They drive on the wrong side of the road! They call footpaths 'sidewalks' and pronounce z 'zee' instead of 'zed'. They spell 'honour' wrong and devote large portions of their existance debating the various merits of different hamburger joints.

I'm a Midwesterner I have what I would call an American TV accent. Though I rarely ever watch television. I prefer reading about history, philosophy and religion instead. I am petite and far from overweight. As for looking deceptively innocent and revoltingly sweet...I'll take that as a compliment. I'd rather appear that way than skanky and rode hard. The Midwestern pronunciation of English has a very strong element and rythmn of German in it. I'm currently learning German and have no trouble with pronouncing their words correctly unlike my experience with the French language. American English is much more gutteral than you Australians. That's why we pronounce our words so differently. Besides, the US doesn't culturally identify with one country like Britain. The biggest ethnic group Americans are descended from is actually German. We are sovereign and our nation has always behaved as if it is. So of course, we have our own names for stuff like sidewalks. We don't depend on Britain to name objects for us. I must agree though that I prefer the British spelling of words and I often use their spellings. As for hamburgers, I am a vegetarian and very few Americans are obsessed with hamburgers. That is such an uninformed stereotype. I myself am an Anglophile but I pride myself on the independnce of America's culture from Britain. We don't depend on other countries to shape our identities (and that certainly includes the pronunciation of American English)instead we try to create our own.
Sdaeriji
20-09-2004, 05:38
That's okay, lash out at your superiors. We understand what it must be like to always be second best.:)
Colodia
20-09-2004, 05:40
Wait, an AUSSIE, of ALL people and of ALL nationalities, is calling me someone with a terrible accent?

I find that extremely hilarious...
Lestavra
20-09-2004, 06:27
all yanks I've seen pics of
Ah, yes, all three, I'm sure.

deceptively innocent and revoltingly sweet.
At least we don't look outrightly bitchy and horribly bitter..

They have dreadful accents that are utter disgraces
Actually, if you go into each of the 50 states, you will probably find a lot more than 50 accents. As the 'melting pot' of the world, we have people from almost every different country. That's right, even Australia.

they can't do anything right! They drive on the wrong side of the road! They call footpaths 'sidewalks' and pronounce z 'zee' instead of 'zed'. They spell 'honour' wrong and devote large portions of their existance debating the various merits of different hamburger joints.
We don't drive on the wrong side of the road, we drive on the right. I'd actually find it quite enjoyable to drive on the left, until I drove head-on into traffic. The laws are different here.
I say footpath and sidewalk. It's called a sidewalk because it's to the side of the road, and you walk on it.
We pronounce Z as 'zee' because that's how it sounds. Tell me, where can I find a 'd' sound in Z?
We spell 'honor' perfectly, just look in any American dictionary.
Apparently you don't realize that the generalizations you are making are only accurate for about 1/4 of the population. Ever heard of Edison? You should thank America for giving you light bulbs. Oh wait, you don't have those in Australia. You're all backcountry folks living out in the bush, riding kangaroos and wrestling crocodiles all day. Now who's being stereotypical?

Whereas most Australians have a far more cunning, smart, intelligent look to them
Australia was originally a penal colony, chock full of criminals. Thieves, murderers, etc. That would explain the 'cunning' look.
Picked up a thesaurus lately? Smart and intelligent mean exactly the same thing.

We have thinner faces and are generally thinner
That's completely redundant.
You've obviously never seen more than 3 Americans. As a matter of fact, I know someone from Australia that lives in Kansas. He has a rather round, pudgy face.

and more British
Except for the fact that you're Australian, not British.

We tend to debate the various merits of things like the comparitive brilliance of Marxism to that of the Kropotkinist variety of anarchism.
And of course you'll never hear Americans talking about Marxism... None of us can read. :rolleyes:

the superiority of Australian hardcore punk to that of Swedish and Belgian harcore punk.
Does that actually have anything to do with America? Your opinion on 'harcore' punk matters little to me, anyway, as I prefer American punk.

Anyway, I don't know why I've written this.
Ooh! I know, I know! It's because you're a bitch! I bet you're a white supremist, too. What do you have against people that are different than you? If Australians are supposed to be so superior to everyone else, then why don't you have one shred of tolerance in your shriveled little heart?

I'm off to bomb a McDonald's.
No, don't bomb McDonald's! Bomb Burger King! McDonald's is so much better.. Oh, sorry. There I go again, "debating the various merits of different hamburger joints".

Ahh, yes, they never fail to drag out the stereotypical Australian, do they? Yes, I imagine that in Australia, somewhere, they IS an Australian who sits around going, ""Arrrr, get a lamington in ya, son, an' look at the head on that crocadile. I'd sure like to sock it one. Anyway, what were ya sayin', lad? Ooooh, yes, I don't like this chloride in the water, I don't, oooohhh, I'll 'ave a word to my local chancellor, I will! Bloody hell! An' what's this about them damn wogs, them bloody German, bloody, Polish, bloody... bloody... moving into our beautiful town! I want have it, I say, no I bloody well won't have it, I say, I won't, by Jove!""
Wow. That's not hypocrisy at all. :rolleyes:
Zwange
20-09-2004, 06:40
NOTE:
An Aussie being rude to yanks makes Australia look bad.
A yank being rude to Aussies makes America look bad.

:confused:

Let's not judge a country based on people's opinions.


*Is 100% Aussie*
Peopleandstuff
20-09-2004, 07:10
I COULD say how every Australian I have met only seem to discuss the merits of various beer brands and Vegemite.
No wonder they are confused, vegemite has no merits, perhaps if they had access to marmite things might work out better for them...

But seriously, Christine, I notice your comments about your friend, and they are utterly out of sink with everything else you are saying. Neither America (as a whole) or Australia (as a whole) are responsible or accountable for the tragedy you refer to. It's a seperate issue, and if your post is any true indication, one that you have not come to terms with. The manner in which you refer to it in your post indicates that it is effecting your reasoning ability (it really has no logical relationship to the other points you mention, yet has been included as though it does). You should forget about accents, and concentrate on doing what you need to, to recover from the trauma that resulted from your friends tragic and shocking demise.

Do you really have an issue with accents, as opposed to having an issue with what happend to your friend. Somehow I doubt you are that shallow, so my suggestion (offered in all sincerity) is to address the real issue. Coming to terms with what happened to your friend will benefit you more than bagging on someone's accent, and I sincerely believe that if you could ask your friend what would be a better memorial to her (bagging accents or getting to a point where you can live your life without being overshadowed by what happened to her), that she wouldnt want you to waste your time and emotional energy on being angry about someone's accent.
MoeHoward
20-09-2004, 07:14
I have to admit it finally and come out of the closet....I just love that movie "BMX Bandits". There I said it and I feel happy. Also I love those cheesy post-apocolypse movies you Aussies are good at making!!! Keep 'em coming. ;)
The Scotian Isles
20-09-2004, 07:46
Just ignore the fact that my best friend was raped and murdered by an American...and every night we see horrendous pictures of yankee atrocities in the middle east

I am very sorry for the suffering that your friend endured. No one should have to go through that. Still, you seem to se us as something we're not. Yes, I am an American, and quite a proud one too. I do not deny that my country has it's share of problems, but our problems are not unique to our country alone. You can not sit there and claim that we as a country raped and murdered your friend, that we as a country have committed the crimes in the Middle East that we too are forced to bear witness to because of an overzealous media. Do you not have criminals within your borders? Those who think they are above the law? Evil exists in all cultures. It is HUMAN nature, not begotten by some American scheme. My father is at this very moment baking in the sun and sands of Iraq. Our media tends to focus (as yours does as well, I'm sure) on the violence that persists within Iraqi borders, the atrocities committed by a few misguided and sadistic soldiers, and the hatred many Iraqis bear towards the American troops. These certainly, are true accounts, but the media seems to have forgotten what Saddam Hussein did to his own people. I am no supporter of President Bush's reasons for going into Iraq, but I have heard first-hand accounts (from my father, and from my cousin who was in the first group of Marines to enter Baghdad during the war) of smiling, weeping, grateful people relieved to have been freed from the terror of a tyrant's rule.

I have also had the pleasure of being a visitor to your land, and I will say that I harbor great respect for your country. Your climate does little to impress me (I live in San Diego, California, but I much prefer the colder climes of the North), but the resilience of your people to withstand the blazing sun in the Outback shows great will. The Aborigines are akin to the Native Americans, with a rich culture and profound faith. Yet, Australia bears some of the same vices the United States are guilty of. Over the years, you have treated your natives as we have treated ours, inhumanely, even brutally, and almost never justly. If I recall correctly, your government took many Aboriginal children away from their families to raise and assimilate into the "white" culture. You have murderers, rapists, arsonists, and a government which some people are dissatisfied with.

As for our accents, all language changes as time progresses and different peoples are brought into the mix. Modern English sounds nothing like Anglo-Saxon or Gaelic, which are two of the older languages to occupy the British Isles. The United States is not really a melting pot of peoples, but more of a tossed salad. We all live together, and most are proud to call ourselves Americans, but we still retain respect and pride in our anscestry. I myself can trace English, Scottish, and German ancestry back at least 200 years, and I try to honor those I am descended from by learning all I can about their cultures.

You seem to think we are an evil people, and you have a great dislike for our accents, but the evil you think you see when you behold the face of any American is not necessarily there. Evil belongs to the world. Hitler, Stalin, Milosevic, and Hussein were/are all monsters. The people of the United States do not breed evil any more than the Germans, the Russians, the Serbs, and the Iraqis do. You judge us before we even open our mouths, and claim to hate our accents, when I think instead you hate the idea of us as a people. Until you can get beyond your ignorant hatred, I pity you.

Oh, and the Yankees are a baseball team, not a people. :p
Infinite Power
20-09-2004, 07:53
Don't forget the mexican and italian, german /english accents.. :D
Infinite Power
20-09-2004, 07:53
Im off to bomb a McDonalds 2..
and get a BigMac along the way ;)
I always get hungry from commiting terrorist activity's
Infinite Power
20-09-2004, 08:04
It's true! From where I stand (Australia) I've noticed all yanks I've seen pics of (except Bush... but he's from another planet) and met have this odd sort of of pudginess about their faces... they look deceptively innocent and revoltingly sweet. They have dreadful accents that are utter disgraces and they can't do anything right! They drive on the wrong side of the road! They call footpaths 'sidewalks' and pronounce z 'zee' instead of 'zed'. They spell 'honour' wrong and devote large portions of their existance debating the various merits of different hamburger joints.

Whereas most Australians have a far more cunning, smart, intelligent look to them (at least on the East Coast, everyone west of there is a half-wit). We have thinner faces and are generally thinner and more British (well, the ones that originally came from England the Motherland) than the other colonies. We tend to debate the various merits of things like the comparitive brilliance of Marxism to that of the Kropotkinist variety of anarchism. And of course the superiority of Australian hardcore punk to that of Swedish and Belgian harcore punk.

Anyway, I don't know why I've written this. Stuff it, I'm off to bomb a McDonald's.

Christina
They dont look the same.. no Usher doesn't look like brad pitt and the beastieboys..
They dont sound the same.. they have different dialects so they CAN't all sound the same..
Australians dont look smart.. Kylie minogue looks stupid to me.. and how can those crocodile hunters be smart compared to americans..
yes.. you guys are thin w00pied00
marxism anarchism.. smart smart smart :confused: :mp5:
Hardcore belgian punk.. pff im from the netherlands and I know belgians can't even swear properly in dutch.. so how on earth can they be hardcore... Swedish ppl r fun tho.. they all look the same :D
Infinite Power
20-09-2004, 08:10
Australia was originally a penal colony, chock full of criminals. Thieves, murderers, etc. That would explain the 'cunning' look.
Picked up a thesaurus lately? Smart and intelligent mean exactly the same thing.


where do u think our criminals went 2, american..
Uhhhhhh deported to NY
Between our own colonies and the indians.. yes those were cowboys... ;)
Infinite Power
20-09-2004, 08:25
I want to kill them!! They say, "Hey, thar, sistaar, yo so lucky tah live in Ooorrrrstraylia, so frrree of strrress." O yeah, sure. Just ignore the fact that my best friend was raped and murdered by an American, just ignore the fact that our government LIES to us daily, that every day and every night we see horrendous pictures of yankee atrocities in the middle east, the fact that the media has blinded most Australians to the point where the most racist, hypocritical, sadistic, criminal and hate-filled person in Australia, Pauline Hanson is set to be voted into the Senate... the very media that is owned by our darling compatriate Rupert Murdoch who has sold out to America and become an American, somewhat mysteriously... and they come and say to us "wee admahre yoo Ooorstrraylians fer yerr rrrelaxed waay of laafe." Pardon me for just simply HATING them!

Yes, I love you too,
Christina

Alot of ppl know what u mean..
I have a friend stabbed down by muslims and I had a knife on my throat a month ago... and idiots rule my country.. so what who cares... it happends everywhere.. its not that ur special now or something.. :fluffle: *cough* all muslims look the same ;)
Rotovia
20-09-2004, 09:04
dude, is an AUSTRALIAN really trying to mock somebody else's accent? i mean, come on, even my Aussie roommate used to freely acknowledge that the Aussie accent is an international joke. you need to lighten up, Christina.
Actually the Australian accent you are used to is an accent you rarely hear over here. I'm not saying those yokal type people don't excist, I'm just saying the other 16 million of us try to keep our distance from them.
Kanabia
20-09-2004, 11:38
Ever heard of Edison? You should thank America for giving you light bulbs.

And you should thank us for: http://www.convictcreations.com/culture/inventions.htm

The most notable in our day to day lives being refrigeration, the electric drill, penicillin and the ultrasound.

Of course, there are many more.

Australia was originally a penal colony, chock full of criminals. Thieves, murderers, etc.

Think for a moment about the time period that Australia was colonised.

The British just lost their former penal colony and simply needed a new one...
Epara
20-09-2004, 13:41
O screw it. I wish all people of British heritage would just die. Even me. The English-speaking race is responsible for all misery in the world today.
Squi
20-09-2004, 13:56
Please allow me to speak for the US south. First of all, the accent we associate with the northeast accent grates on southern nerves. The folks up there speak too quickly, as if they're in a rush to be done with you, and it seems as though there are 2 "a"s and 1/2 an "r" in their alphabet. Thank you for at least realizing that there is an "r" in the NE accent even if we don't waste 20 minutes rolling each one arround in our mouth. It is so irritating to hear those bad NE accents where people only fail to pronounce the "r" instead of abreviating the ammount of time they would otherwise spend playing arround with it in thier mouth. As for being in a rush to get done with you, no it's just that we do have other things to do and would kinda like to get through the checkout line at the grocery store before the ice cream melts and the vegetables go to seed.
International spies
20-09-2004, 14:56
"Whose Chopper is this?"
"It's Zee's."
"Whose Zee?"
"Zee's dead baby, Zee's Dead."
Suicidal Librarians
23-09-2004, 22:34
Please allow me to speak for the US south. First of all, the accent we associate with the northeast accent grates on southern nerves. The folks up there speak too quickly, as if they're in a rush to be done with you, and it seems as though there are 2 "a"s and 1/2 an "r" in their alphabet. We realize that there are destinctions in accents associated with New York City's different boroughs, Boston, Maine, New Jersey, etc. However, the distinctions have a tendancy to blur for the southern ear. Midwesterners, with the exception of Chicago (who seem to have a unique accent of their own), sound like they have stuffed noses and they, too, speak very fast. West coast, esp California, seems to rely heavily on slang, like, you know? Now, for us southerners. First of all, the south does not all speak with the same accent. If you listen, you can tell if someone came from Louisiana, Georgia, Alabama, one of the Carolinas, Arkansas (sounds a lot like Mississippi), and especially Texas. Bless their twangy little hearts!! Language experts say that the southeast coastal states' accents most closley resembles the British accent, particularly in the Appalachians, not so you would notice, though. Probably the most uninflected English spoken in the US can be found in the desert states. At least the Native Americans sound pretty "unaccented" to me though their speech patterns seem to be rather flat with little emotion shown.

As for the Aussies...I can't really comment on their accents as I usually have no idea what they're saying. Is it English? :confused:

Midwesterners talk fast? I think we talk at a pretty normal pace. But I will tell you that when I hear the Southern accent I wish that they would just get on with what they are saying. Maybe we don't talk too fast, you just talk too slow.
Nimzonia
23-09-2004, 22:39
Oh,and there is no such thing as a "stupid" accent-
It is all a matter of opinion and perspective.

I don't know... West country accents are pretty silly.
Squi
23-09-2004, 22:46
Midwesterners talk fast? I think we talk at a pretty normal pace. But I will tell you that when I hear the Southern accent I wish that they would just get on with what they are saying. Maybe we don't talk too fast, you just talk too slow.
Nah, you folks in the midwest are a little on the slow side in your speech, but not enough to be annoying like the sotherners. It isn't worth mentioning the little bit of slowness you folks have in your specch, heck when I lived out toward there (Michigan) I slowed right down to your speed, no problem except for the "r"s. I still cannot figure out why people outside the NE waste so much time on those "r"s.
Jokobee
23-09-2004, 23:09
Nah, you folks in the midwest are a little on the slow side in your speech, but not enough to be annoying like the sotherners. It isn't worth mentioning the little bit of slowness you folks have in your specch, heck when I lived out toward there (Michigan) I slowed right down to your speed, no problem except for the "r"s. I still cannot figure out why people outside the NE waste so much time on those "r"s.

The cawncat was wicked had caw
havad yad
chow-da
a dawla for a tawnic
:p
That commercial is funny
Joe Gas
24-09-2004, 16:40
It's true! From where I stand (Australia) I've noticed all yanks I've seen pics of (except Bush... but he's from another planet) and met have this odd sort of of pudginess about their faces... they look deceptively innocent and revoltingly sweet. They have dreadful accents that are utter disgraces and they can't do anything right! They drive on the wrong side of the road! They call footpaths 'sidewalks' and pronounce z 'zee' instead of 'zed'. They spell 'honour' wrong and devote large portions of their existance debating the various merits of different hamburger joints.

Whereas most Australians have a far more cunning, smart, intelligent look to them (at least on the East Coast, everyone west of there is a half-wit). We have thinner faces and are generally thinner and more British (well, the ones that originally came from England the Motherland) than the other colonies. We tend to debate the various merits of things like the comparitive brilliance of Marxism to that of the Kropotkinist variety of anarchism. And of course the superiority of Australian hardcore punk to that of Swedish and Belgian harcore punk.

Anyway, I don't know why I've written this. Stuff it, I'm off to bomb a McDonald's.

Christina

LOL cute. While your at it take out a Subway too, I'm sick of Jared.
WhiteLilly
24-09-2004, 16:59
hmm.. i cant understand most brits for some reason.. but i can my fiancee.. *sighs* i like her acent.. whats funny is the reverse is also true.. she can understand mine, but not most americans.. lol
Argyres
24-09-2004, 20:38
(All quotes are from the author of the thread)

It's true! From where I stand (Australia) I've noticed all yanks I've seen pics of (except Bush... but he's from another planet) and met have this odd sort of of pudginess about their faces..

So are you saying that someone standing elsewhere in the world might see things differently? Also, would anorexic/otherwise underweight Americans still have that odd sort of pudginess?

They have dreadful accents that are utter disgraces and they can't do anything right!

Yar! Damn Americans can't do anything right! Everything we've ever done in the world has been a complete fluke and/or due to the help of xenophobic foreigners!

They drive on the wrong side of the road!

It's called perspective, try using it sometime

hey call footpaths 'sidewalks' and pronounce z 'zee' instead of 'zed'.

So? You Australians play rugby instead of American football! And you call women "Sheilas", you weird Australians....the horror, the horror!!!

They spell 'honour' wrong and devote large portions of their existance debating the various merits of different hamburger joints.

I suppose that's preferable to making rash and incorrect generalizations about 300 million people based on the four Americans you've probably actually met, and the dozens you've seen on the Jerry Springer Show, or whatever skewed view of American society you get on your television.

Whereas most Australians have a far more cunning, smart, intelligent look to them (at least on the East Coast, everyone west of there is a half-wit).

Substitute "White people" for Australians and you have the exact same argument made by white supremacists...also I find it extremely funny you've decided to deride your own countrymen as well. You probably should have inserted a "Stuck-up Eastern" in front of Australians, come to think of it.

We have thinner faces and are generally thinner and more British (well, the ones that originally came from England the Motherland) than the other colonies.

Good for you!

We tend to debate the various merits of things like the comparitive brilliance of Marxism to that of the Kropotkinist variety of anarchism

No, you don't. I've been to Australia and I've never, ever heard anyone even mention Marx. Stop lying.

And of course the superiority of Australian hardcore punk to that of Swedish and Belgian harcore punk.

The lone determining factor for a society and culture's superiority over another, is it?

Anyway, I don't know why I've written this. Stuff it, I'm off to bomb a McDonald's.

Considering the ignorance you've displayed elsewhere in this post, I don't find it surprising you look forward to being a felon.

Ahh, yes, they never fail to drag out the stereotypical Australian, do they?

Considering your entire (flawed) argument is based on stereotypes, I find it amusing you get upset when others do the same.

And I must say, German accents I can taken. Japanese with ease, Russian with pleasure and British with joy. I can handle South African, Indian, Libyan, Indonesian, French, Venezuelan! Even New Zealandish and Cuban and even Canadian!!! But I cannot under any curcumstances bear to hear an American accents.

That's quite a coincidence, I can handle hearing all accents except yours too!

Every time I do, I scream at the top of my voice the Soviet national anthem in an effort to drown it out.

Yes, nothing like being stupid while singing a song representative of a regime that oppressed millions of people to lighten the mood.

I meet Americans on the street belting out at full throttle how much they loooove Australia for its beautiful weather and its relaxed, easy going and happy attitudes and the relaxed Asutralian way of life, I want to kill them!!

YAR! How dare they praise your country and people! Stupid Americans!!!

Just ignore the fact that my best friend was raped and murdered by an American, just ignore the fact that our government LIES to us daily, that every day and every night we see horrendous pictures of yankee atrocities in the middle east

I'm sorry for your friend, but to blame all Americans for that is, quite frankly, stupid and illogical to the umpteenth degree. Also, if you want to complain about our government, that's fine, but please, spare us the fallacy of deriding and demeaning 300 million people.

the fact that the media has blinded most Australians to the point where the most racist, hypocritical, sadistic, criminal and hate-filled person in Australia, Pauline Hanson is set to be voted into the Senate.

The media alone can't do that, it takes a willingness to go along with it as well. Perhaps you're just upset because your favorite candidate, running on a platform of blind and irrational hatred towards others, is not going to get elected?

Pardon me for just simply HATING them!

No, you're not pardoned. You are pitied, at least by me, though.

You are an embarassment to the many Australians I know who are intelligent, friendly, and people you'd like to know. To express raw hatred for so many people for so stupid of reasons is truly disgraceful. Your attitude is reminiscent of those who would have you think that one race is naturally superior to the other, lesser one, and that is shameful. Hate my government all you want, but if you're going to hate me, have a real reason for it, please.
Keruvalia
24-09-2004, 21:20
It's true!

Wow .... Samuel L. Jackson looks just like Tori Amos?


Tori ...

http://www.mit.edu/afs/sipb/user/nocturne/pics/tori_amos.gif

Sam ...

http://www.manmademultimedia.com/magazine/news/ent/intheaters/april2002/changing_lanes.jpgs/samuel_jackson.jpg


Wow ... you Aussies must be blind. :D