John Kerry is so kewl . . .
Hajekistan
19-09-2004, 07:10
John Kerry is the Jesus to George Bush's (hurhurhur, I said "bush") Anti-Christ. I have compiled all the reasons why John F. Kerry Sex God and Pure Goodness Haver is better than Evil, Dirty, Naughty George W. Bush.
George Bush stayed behind and dodged the draft by joining the ANG for a couple of years.
While John Kerry was out there in the jungles of Vietnam burning villages, destroying food supplies, killing women and children, and torturing prisoners for a whole four months!!
George Bush ignored memos that sooo obviously indicated everything about 9/11 (including the number of mustache hairs each high jacker had) and caused, like, 3,000 deaths!
John Kerry, meanwhile, was hard at work not showing up for Senate Intelligence Committee meetings.
Dick (hurhurhur, I said "Dick") Cheney is icky and is never around when something bad happens. He also has heart troubles, this makes him stupid. Worst of all Cheney is guilty of working for EVIL NASTY MEAN HALIBURTON!!! WE HATES IT PRECIOUS!!!! WE HATESES IT!!
This is completely different from John Edwards' recently picked up hobby of always being out of sight. Further, John Edwards will never have heart troubles, as (due to the fact that he is a lawyer) he is an alien. Further, the closest John Edwards has ever gotten to an executive, was when he burst out of one's chest (a requirement for being a lawyer).
George W. Bush has recieved support from the meanheaded SBVT, which he has so obviously funded and is controlling (despite the fact that the guy at the center of SBVT has been going against Kerry since the beggining, thus proving George W. Bush's evil powers transcend time and space). Further, his public support of John Kerry's war record and condemnation of SBVT is merely a smoke screen.
Michael Moore, Democracynow, Dan Rather, etc. are all compassionate and super good people who are trying to expose Evil, Lying, Mean George W. Bush and, possibly, hamsters. They are certainly not acting politically, and are not involved with John Kerry whatsoever. At all. No Involvement. Johnny Boy is completely innocent. Innocent. No involvement. None. Nope.
George Bush invaded Iraq (a really swell place where everyone was happy and going well) and is pure evil for doing so.
John Kerry voted to allow George Bush to got to war, but didn't really want him too. (Roughly akin to letting a pitbull loose in a preschool, and then politely requesting it not maul anyone) Further, even knowing what would happen as a result, John Kerry would vote that way again. Because . . . Because . . . Because . . . Because of, um, er, well . . . Fuck it, John Kerry is good and Bush is evil and you are a compete morin if you don't just realize that and shuttup!
This message brought to you by Hajekistan For The Ultimate Koolness That Is John Kerry In Office, The Office Of The U.S. President That Is.
Sdaeriji
19-09-2004, 07:24
This is just the kind of substance and critical thought we've come to expect from you.
More like George Bush used his influence to get into the national gaurd and kerry served as an honorable soldier.
And yes, they did clearly indicate the september 11 attacks.
And yes, WE HATES IT PRECIOUS!!!! WE HATESES IT!!
And michael moore and friends don't claim to not be involved politically.
And John Kerry voted to give the president authority on the basis that there was actually a reason to invade.
Hajekistan
19-09-2004, 07:30
This is just the kind of substance and critical thought we've come to expect from you.
Always happy to fail to meet expectations.
Always happy to fail to meet expectations.
Erm, huh?
Sdaeriji
19-09-2004, 07:31
Always happy to fail to meet expectations.
I imagine you probably fail at most things in life.
I imagine you probably fail at most things in life.
ooooooo, disss.
Hajekistan
19-09-2004, 07:35
More like George Bush used his influence to get into the national gaurd and kerry served as an honorable soldier.
Yes, like I have said. John Kerry was out there in the frontlines whacking civies.
And michael moore and friends don't claim to not be involved politically.
I rather think that Dan Rather does. Claim to be unaffiliated, that is.
And SBVT never claimed to be unbiased. I'd say they are rather firmly anti-Kerry.
And John Kerry voted to give the president authority on the basis that there was actually a reason to invade.
Except he has been quoted as saying that, knowing what he does now, he would vote the same way.
Hajekistan
19-09-2004, 07:36
I imagine you probably fail at most things in life.
Oh, baby, I love it when you talk dirty . . .
Sdaeriji
19-09-2004, 07:37
Oh, baby, I love it when you talk dirty . . .
Hey, there's that substance thing again!
Hajekstan: Thing about whacking civies.
Well Bush sends troops to whack thousands of civies, so meh.
Hajekstan:
I rather think that Dan Rather does. Claim to be unaffiliated, that is.
And SBVT never claimed to be unbiased. I'd say they are rather firmly anti-Kerry.
Then Dan Rather's an exception and he should be mentioned in a different blanket ignorance sentence.
Hajekstan:
Except he has been quoted as saying that, knowing what he does now, he would vote the same way.
Argh, my first line of defense... Well, he also said that he just believed the authority lies with the president and he was sticking with his beliefs.
:headbang: what were you people like three??? Not seem rude being the new kid on the block (no reference to an early 90's boy band intended) but some of the issues being brought up seem not only childlike but things that we should not be electing a president on.
:headbang: what were you people like three??? Not seem rude being the new kid on the block (no reference to an early 90's boy band intended) but some of the issues being brought up seem not only childlike but things that we should not be electing a president on.
You mean being good and bad presidents?
And don't call yourself "the" new kid... there are dozens every day.
Kaziganthis
19-09-2004, 07:45
Not very imaginative post, Haje'...
Hajekistan
19-09-2004, 07:46
Hey, there's that substance thing again!
Oh, I am eternally sorry, oh Great Mistress (or Master, whatever) Of A Thousand Suns And Thrice That Again Many Worlds. I must admit that I, as a mere mortal, cannot meet the great substance of "I imagine you probably fail at most things in life" it is just an effect of my pathetic condition.
Hajekistan
19-09-2004, 07:47
Not very imaginative...
I will admit that I am a mere amateur at political targeting when held up beside DemocracyNow or MoveOn.org.
Sdaeriji
19-09-2004, 07:47
Oh, I am eternally sorry, oh Great Mistress (or Master, whatever) Of A Thousand Suns And Thrice That Again Many Worlds. I must admit that I, as a mere mortal, cannot meet the great substance of "I imagine you probably fail at most things in life" it is just an effect of my pathetic condition.
As long as you accept it....
Oh, I am eternally sorry, oh Great Mistress (or Master, whatever) Of A Thousand Suns And Thrice That Again Many Worlds. I must admit that I, as a mere mortal, cannot meet the great substance of "I imagine you probably fail at most things in life" it is just an effect of my pathetic condition.
That's more like it! Bow to your un-ingorant masters!
i ment i seem to be the new kid here in this conversation...
And i also ment that alot of the crap bneing drug up ( I.E military records) will not show us who will make the better president... mud sling and smearing is not proving anything but who is more childish and maybe its the side that does the less of it that we should be electing (not that that is how i am voiting.. i already am ready to cast my vote) as they are showing far more maturity then the other side...
one again sorry for the typos its late and i can't spell past midnight
Hajekistan
19-09-2004, 07:50
Well Bush sends troops to whack thousands of civies, so meh.
And meh right back 'atcha!
Then Dan Rather's an exception and he should be mentioned in a different blanket ignorance sentence.
What's ignorant about it? I speak only the truth except when I feel the need to lie.
Argh, my first line of defense... Well, he also said that he just believed the authority lies with the president and he was sticking with his beliefs.
So John Kerry believes that the President should be able to do whatever he wants with the military? That is scary . . .
Sdaeriji
19-09-2004, 07:50
i ment i seem to be the new kid here in this conversation...
And i also ment that alot of the crap bneing drug up ( I.E military records) will not show us who will make the better president... mud sling and smearing is not proving anything but who is more childish and maybe its the side that does the less of it that we should be electing (not that that is how i am voiting.. i already am ready to cast my vote) as they are showing far more maturity then the other side...
one again sorry for the typos its late and i can't spell past midnight
I wouldn't worry about trying to make this thread into a serious discussion. Either Hajekistan had an anuerysm right before making this thread, or he's just trying to be a smartass, either way, this thread is probably heading for eternal damnation, so I wouldn't bother.
Greyfeldt
19-09-2004, 07:51
Kerry may have served in Vietnam. But he had still tried to get out of it, by applying to go to school in Paris for a year.
But that didn't work so he joined the Navy, and served his first term "in" Vietnam as an electrical technician on a guided missile frigate (USS Gridley) in the Tonkin Gulf.
From there he went back home, but volunteered to go back, this time as a commander of a swift boat in a "Free Fire Zone."
Volunteered.
Think about that.
"While in command of Swift Boat 44, Kerry and crew operated without prudence in a Free Fire Zone, carelessly firing at targets of opportunity racking up a number of enemy kills and some civilians. His body count included-- a woman, her baby, a 12 year-old boy, an elderly man and several South Vietnamese soldiers.
"It is one of those terrible things, and I'll never forget, ever, the sight of that child," Kerry later said about the dead baby. "But there was nothing that anybody could have done about it. It was the only instance of that happening."
Kerry said he was appalled that the Navy's ''free fire zone'' policy in Vietnam put civilians at such high risk."
He volunteered for the assignment, and had secured command none-the-less, and as the commander he and his crew had carelessly fired upon all "targets of opportunity." And then goes around to say he is sorry and how the entire thing was a bad idea. What a dip shit.
"When Kerry's Patrol Craft Fast 94 received a B-40 rocket shot from shore, he hot dogged his craft beaching it in the center of the enemy position. To his surprise, an enemy soldier sprang up from a hole not ten feet from Patrol Craft 94 and fled.
The boat's machine gunner hit and wounded the fleeing Viet Cong as he darted behind a hootch. The twin .50s gunner fired at the Viet Cong. He said he "laid 50 rounds" into the hootch before Kerry leaped from the boat and dashed in to administer a "coup de grace" to the wounded Viet Cong. Kerry returned with the B-40 rocket and launcher.
Kerry was given a Silver Star for his actions."
Being awarded for killing an almost dead man... wow, how fucking lame. Kerry is obviously an oppurtunist.
"After his third Purple Heart Kerry requested to be sent home. Navy rules, he pointed out, allowed a thrice-wounded soldier to return to the United States immediately."
Never minding each and every damned wound was a light wound. At least Bush had successfully kept his ass out of Vietnam.
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.org/
i ment i seem to be the new kid here in this conversation...
And i also ment that alot of the crap bneing drug up ( I.E military records) will not show us who will make the better president... mud sling and smearing is not proving anything but who is more childish and maybe its the side that does the less of it that we should be electing (not that that is how i am voiting.. i already am ready to cast my vote) as they are showing far more maturity then the other side...
one again sorry for the typos its late and i can't spell past midnight
This all seems pretty relevent to me. Being competent enough to prevent a terrorist attack that you know about beforehand? Military service (which people want in a president because they know what they're getting they're tropps into and will do it with a little mroe restraint)?
Hajekistan
19-09-2004, 07:51
That's more like it! Bow to your un-ingorant masters!
*Dances for his puppet master*
*Dances for his puppet master*
(Claps his hands)
You amuse me!
Hajekistan
19-09-2004, 07:53
I wouldn't worry about trying to make this thread into a serious discussion. Either Hajekistan had an anuerysm right before making this thread, or he's just trying to be a smartass, either way, this thread is probably heading for eternal damnation, so I wouldn't bother.
I pick B: Hajekistan is being a smartass
Anyway, I've been on the path to Eternal Damnation long enough to tell you that this isn't it. Eternal Damnation involves more flannel, committee meetings, and Strip Bingo Nights at the local Senior Center.
Kerry may have served in Vietnam. But he had still tried to get out of it, by applying to go to school in Paris for a year.
But that didn't work so he joined the Navy, and served his first term "in" Vietnam as an electrical technician on a guided missile frigate (USS Gridley) in the Tonkin Gulf.
From there he went back home, but volunteered to go back, this time as a commander of a swift boat in a "Free Fire Zone."
Volunteered.
Think about that.
"While in command of Swift Boat 44, Kerry and crew operated without prudence in a Free Fire Zone, carelessly firing at targets of opportunity racking up a number of enemy kills and some civilians. His body count included-- a woman, her baby, a 12 year-old boy, an elderly man and several South Vietnamese soldiers.
"It is one of those terrible things, and I'll never forget, ever, the sight of that child," Kerry later said about the dead baby. "But there was nothing that anybody could have done about it. It was the only instance of that happening."
Kerry said he was appalled that the Navy's ''free fire zone'' policy in Vietnam put civilians at such high risk."
He volunteered for the assignment, and had secured command none-the-less, and as the commander he and his crew had carelessly fired upon all. And then goes around to say he is sorry and how the entire thing was a bad idea. What a ship shit.
"When Kerry's Patrol Craft Fast 94 received a B-40 rocket shot from shore, he hot dogged his craft beaching it in the center of the enemy position. To his surprise, an enemy soldier sprang up from a hole not ten feet from Patrol Craft 94 and fled.
The boat's machine gunner hit and wounded the fleeing Viet Cong as he darted behind a hootch. The twin .50s gunner fired at the Viet Cong. He said he "laid 50 rounds" into the hootch before Kerry leaped from the boat and dashed in to administer a "coup de grace" to the wounded Viet Cong. Kerry returned with the B-40 rocket and launcher.
Kerry was given a Silver Star for his actions."
Being awarded for killing an almost dead man... wow, how fucking lame. Kerry is obviously an oppurtunist.
"After his third Purple Heart Kerry requested to be sent home. Navy rules, he pointed out, allowed a thrice-wounded soldier to return to the United States immediately."
Never minding each and every damned wound was a light wound. At least Bush had successfully kept his ass out of Vietnam.
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.org/
Meanwhile, bush craps his pants. He's rich though. He uses his rich to join the Cowboy Squad!
That eternal damnation thign sounds about right. I'm leaving now.
Sdaeriji
19-09-2004, 07:56
Hajekistan is a(n) ass
I like it!
we have had some wonderful presidents with no time in the military and you know what (it finally put my stance on this election out there) you can vote for a guy with question militay time (Bush) or you can vote for a guy who can't even make up his mind about anything...including a few things he should not even be thinking about (kerry and abortion...sorry its my issue that his close to him...)
Kalitzberg
19-09-2004, 08:01
It's not that Bush is necessarily a good candidate for president, it's just that, between him and Kerry, he's the lesser of two evils.
Kerry did go to Vietnam, and was wounded three times, and he gets a lot of props for that (even if the first one was, apparently, self-inflicted... his campaign just released that yesterday). However, the fact that he and "Hanoi Jane" Fonda, along with a great deal of other disgruntled protestors, marched under the flag of the Viet Cong, the -enemy- to which a good portion of our 50,000+ casualties were a result of, ought to disqualify him from the race. You just can't do something like that, and then expect to be the commander-in-chief.
I would also whine about his Senate voting record, but Sen. Zell "Andrew Jackson" Miller beat me to it. >_>
Sides. Kerry is pro-gun control. As a collector, that kinda shuts me off right then and there.
*sigh* I wish Reagan wasn't dead.
Hajekistan
19-09-2004, 08:01
I like it!
I would be a(n) ass
I find it much to my taste as well!
Jolly good old sport!
Sdaeriji
19-09-2004, 08:03
You know, you'd look like less of an ass if you spelled words correctly when you made up quotes by people. Just a helpful reminder.
Greyfeldt
19-09-2004, 08:05
Yeah, Bush is rich. So is John Forbes Kerry, ya dumb fuck.
Think about those two names after John.
Forbes and Kerry, two well connected and prominent families on the Eastern Sea Board. Then let us not forget his wife Heinz.
We have two rich guys, who are (and yes Bush is) from Maine, went to Ive-League schools, both have tried to dodge the draft of Nam (one more effectively than the other), both have no idea of what is best for the nation, and except for military records and Kerry's condemnation of other vets after Nam, and all of the blatant lies he had told and so on and so forth, they are pretty much identical politically.
Both are stupid, and the third candidate has been useless since the 60's.
Everyone knows Bush is an idiot, but not everyone knows Kerry is pretty much the same, except a bit different. And the only reason Kerry will even get votes is due to the fact he is not Bush, though it does look like many veterans will vote Bush due to kerry being a liar and opportunist, because it was cool to be against the war and the veterans, many of whom had not wanted to go, dieing and what have you only to come back to a nation that gave them death threats and had even vandalized homes of vets.
Hajekistan
19-09-2004, 08:06
You know, you'd look like less of an ass if you spelled words correctly when you made up quotes by people. Just a helpful reminder.
I didn't make up aa quote at all, look below:
I wouldn't worry about trying to make this thread into a serious discussion. Either Hajekistan had an anuerysm right before making this thread, or he's just trying to be a smartass, either way, this thread is probably heading for eternal damnation, so I wouldn't bother.
(Quite obviously, emphasis added)
Hajekistan
19-09-2004, 08:08
Yeah, Bush is rich. So is John Forbes Kerry, ya dumb fuck.
Think about those two names after John.
Forbes and Kerry, two well connected and prominent families on the Eastern Sea Board. Then let us not forget his wife Heinz.
We have two rich guys, who are (and yes Bush is) from Maine, went to Ive-League schools, both have tried to dodge the draft of Nam (one more effectively than the other), both have no idea of what is best for the nation, and except for military records and Kerry's condemnation of other vets after Nam, and all of the blatant lies he had told and so on and so forth, they are pretty much identical politically.
Both are stupid, and the third candidate has been useless since the 60's.
Everyone knows Bush is an idiot, but not everyone knows Kerry is pretty much the same, except a bit different. And the only reason Kerry will even get votes is due to the fact he is not Bush, though it does look like many veterans will vote Bush due to kerry being a liar and opportunist, because it was cool to be against the war and the veterans, many of whom had not wanted to go, dieing and what have you only to come back to a nation that gave them death threats and had even vandalized homes of vets.
Using this logic, you should vote for George, because he is more successful at being an ignorant lying weasel.
Lunatic Goofballs
19-09-2004, 08:08
*Republican Cheer*
Bush! Bush! He's our man! If he can't do it, we'll give him four more years to try!
*Democratic Cheer*
Kerry! Kerry! He's our man! If he can't do it, Bush must've cheated!
;)
Hajekistan
19-09-2004, 08:11
*Republican Cheer*
Bush! Bush! He's our man! If he can't do it, we'll give him four more years to try!
*Democratic Cheer*
Kerry! Kerry! He's our man! If he can't do it, Bush must've cheated!
;)
I have no Idea what that means (because I am ignorant of my anuerysm), but I like it (because I am an ass and a member of the lower classes of NS Posters).
this is all great and wonderful......and all this arguin only helps to breed voters like my mother sadly enough.... people who know nothing of the polically system and of what the president really does..but fall victum to the endless crud the media and throws at them about about which candite while in thier early 30s did this horrible thing that would make them a bad president...
Greyfeldt
19-09-2004, 08:17
Using this logic, you should vote for George, because he is more successful at being an ignorant lying weasel.
Well no fucking shit.
Bush may be an idiot, but as has been stated by someone earlier, he is the lesser of two evils. Not by much, and at least he doesn't try to act like he is no better than the average Joe, which Kerry had done so well... especially around here in the Midwest. I remember watching the news, Kerry had said something that was a seeming mix of words, and the woman he was talking to looked at him like he was a moron. Then let us not forget the democratic national convention. His wife has so excellently supported Kerry's "we are no better than the working class" angle, than saying "Merci, merci beaucoup."
It would be most neat if we could demand for new candidates.
Hajekistan
19-09-2004, 08:25
this is all great and wonderful......and all this arguin only helps to breed voters like my mother sadly enough.... people who know nothing of the polically system and of what the president really does..but fall victum to the endless crud the media and throws at them about about which candite while in thier early 30s did this horrible thing that would make them a bad president...
I don't honestly think anyone here is arguing anymore. Sdaeriji was the last dissenter, and she has other universes to rule, and asses to seek out and target. She also needs to look through her dictionary in search of big words like "anuerysm" and "damnation" (it is always important to use complicated wwords when one is trying to disguise their ridiculous onanism).
lol agreed... my internet is slow and when i posted that i was like five posts behind.... lol sorry
Well ok, but why did the Democratic Party choose John Kerry? Can you imagine a more untelegenic, wooden, patrician, unconnected candidate? One who is trying to connect to the common man and yet has six homes and a butler and a chauffeur? One whose net worth (with his wife) is over a billion dollars?
Crazy. Bush is such a weak candidate on the economy and Iraq that almost anyone could have beaten him. But they pick Kerry.
I was all there for Howard Dean...but the other Dems kinda preempted the Repubs by dismissing him as a nut. Too bad, they really should have rallied around the guy, now if there isn't someone to break voter apathy, it was Dean.
The Democrats think you win by driving for the middle, while the Republicans know you win by stirring your wing into a voting frenzy.
Pan-Arab Israel
19-09-2004, 09:59
I wish Dean was the Democratic nominee... it would make the 1984 Republican landslide look like a narrow victory.
I wish Dean was the Democratic nominee... it would make the 1984 Republican landslide look like a narrow victory.
You know what the Democrats need? Ross Perot, running under the Reform ticket. That mofo handed it to Clinton in 92, he can do it again. ;)