NationStates Jolt Archive

Please wait for the poll before answering. Thanks.

Yawn.

man, i'm so confused. on the one hand i am an anarchist and there is a poll option with my label on it. on the other hand, anarchists have called their proposed and practiced system of organization 'federalism' and 'confederation'. on the other other hand, we wouldn't call it a government and it would be rather strikingly different from states going by those names. on the other other other hand, i've totally run out of hands a few lines ago.

Confederacy because it keeps that pesky big government out. In my opinion all the federal government should to is keep us protected with the military the rest of the power should fall to the states.

The best system is a unitary system; the most feasible is a federal system. Large groups banded together with even a few common interests (defense, economy, etc.) work a lot better than groups loosely banded together that always cut each other's throats. Let's put it this way - if the U.S. were 50 separate sovereign states (OK, 48 at the time...) how well would they have done in the Second World War? And what if some states wanted to join the Nazis? Now New York, Pennsylvania, and Michigan have to contend with Germany, Italy, Japan, and fascist Louisiana? That's the last thing the U.S. needed at the time was pesky Axis states trying to take them down. Since the U.S. existed, people felt more tied to that than their home state, and they fought for it, not for their own state's competing interest.

Who <I have a strong inclination to insert strong language here> voted for confederacy? Don't you youngsters remember how things were with the Articles of Confederation?

Yawn.


You're already bored with your own threads? Welcome to the club, the anti-PETA stuff got old too fast and my questions on creation, *shakes head*, that got me in deep sh*t.

Confederalism doesn't work out, You need an enforced full faith and credit or everything goes to fuck. Remember? We tried it? Everyone printed their own money? It was worthless? anyone remember?

Confederalism doesn't work out, You need an enforced full faith and credit or everything goes to fuck. Remember? We tried it? Everyone printed their own money? It was worthless? anyone remember?




Yup, that was right after the Revolution. Completely worthless. And the soldiers who fought were getting a bit angry at that "not being paid" thing as well...I voted for Unitarism. Confederacies and Federalism gets you stuff like The Civil War (against the Confederates, remember?). Plus it helps drive feelings of selfish and senseless Regionalism, which can tear countries apart and make governing ineffective, since you have a number of regions competing for their own legislation and people voting in different ways simply because of their Region, rather than for the good of the Nation as a whole.

Federalism has worked for over 200 years.

When I come to power we'll have a modern fuedal system. ;)

Federalism has worked for over 200 years.
It worked for 80 before descending into civil war and later into a barely restrained tyranny of the majority.

Confederalism doesn't work out, You need an enforced full faith and credit or everything goes to fuck. Remember? We tried it? Everyone printed their own money? It was worthless? anyone remember?
Much like the modern international currency market.

I don't see [any] parliamentary Europe[an nations] dominating the world.

It worked for 80 before descending into civil war and later into a barely restrained tyranny of the majority.
Just thought I'd post this to this thread as well.
The aboriginal people of Australia had a system that worked for 60,000+ years!

I don't see [any] parliamentary Europe[an nations] dominating the world.
Was this aimed at me? If it was I agree, that is also a poor system.

Just thought I'd post this to this thread as well.
The aboriginal people of Australia had a system that worked for 60,000+ years!
In what way did it "work"?

That NianNorth and his aboriginal 60000+ years. How does he know? Just because there aren't any 50000 year old newspapers doesn't mean that there weren't hundreds of aboriginal tribes all beating the shit out of each other for 60000 years.

I picked anarchism, because I think it would be best. Of course, not necessarily practical right at this moment.

I don't see any special difference between them, they are not so much forms of government but descriptions of the how soverignity is handled. I also have to wonder under this scheme whether the US considered federalist or confederalist. If the US is Federalist, is Germany then Unitary?

Libertarianism... It's more people controlled, and I get to make my own damned decisions. Therefore, I like it.

I was thinking an Anarcho-Communist Fiefdom run by a Syndicate that appoints an annual Emporer who becomes deposed after 8 months, leaving 4 months during which a rough despotism is the rule which takes its mandate from whomever has the largest penis. Then, every February 9th, the Syndicate appoints the next Emporer.

Not a whole lot gets done, but it sure is fun.