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Whole E. Crap. That is just strange and unusual.

She was 4 foot 10 and 480 lbs.

That is about one of the saddest stories I've ever heard...

holy fuck. I just dont know what to say....

4 foot 10 and 480 Pounds!!!!!
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

BTW did you see the 'Strange photos' bit down the left hand side? Very cool photos. The one showing the 1/2 ton boar reminds me of the above story for some reason....

Wow. How did you guys miss this when it went around the first time over a month ago? :confused:

Strange..strange..so strange... :D

Funny that obesity is the number one health concern in America...overconsumption...I'm not going to go into that "there are starving children in Africa" cliche, but really people, when you eat yourself to death, that says something bad about the state of life.

This is a metaphor for Amerika. An extreme one maybe but one which has relevance. Fat stupid people with a multitude of cable channels glued to the sofa eating junk food forever, getting more and more fat and more and more stupid. Probably watching Fox News and all the time thinking that Amerika is the greatest nation in the world... Sad.

Yep. You're a towering intellect with that hateful arrogant crap.

wow! It's awful how someone can let themselves get that fat, you'd think that you'd reach a certain stage and you'd take a look at yourself and think 'gees, I need to lose some weight'

That is the greatest news story I have ever seen

I have to say, my sympathy is limited- you don't get that fat by breathing.

Though I want to know why relevant authorities did not offer, or even force, help.

This is a metaphor for Amerika. An extreme one maybe but one which has relevance. Fat stupid people with a multitude of cable channels glued to the sofa eating junk food forever, getting more and more fat and more and more stupid. Probably watching Fox News and all the time thinking that Amerika is the greatest nation in the world... Sad.
:D

This is a metaphor for Amerika. An extreme one maybe but one which has relevance. Fat stupid people with a multitude of cable channels glued to the sofa eating junk food forever, getting more and more fat and more and more stupid. Probably watching Fox News and all the time thinking that Amerika is the greatest nation in the world... Sad.

NWV I presume.

modalert

wow! It's awful how someone can let themselves get that fat, you'd think that you'd reach a certain stage and you'd take a look at yourself and think 'gees, I need to lose some weight'

She was literally stuck to the couch. Maybe she could excerise by flapping her arms or something.

That's just disgusting! How could someone let themselves become so morbidly obese? Ick....

She was literally stuck to the couch. Maybe she could excerise by flapping her arms or something.
but surely the morning before she last sat down on that couch she must have passed a mirror or a window and seen herself, how could someone so fat do that and it make them want to sit down and never get up again rather than go for a walk or something?!

What I can't understand about people this fat is how do they get this size?
I couldn't afford to eat enough to get to that size, even working, let alone just sitting there living off the benefit.

The ppl I have absolutely no sympathy for are the ones who look after them. You hear about lots of them too fat to leave their house/room/sofa. So there's obviously someone else buying the food and giving it to them. I remember a TV doco about fat people and it had one 20 yr old who was so fat he couldn't leave his room. And his mother was crying and complaining about how he just wouldn't stop eating and would just pig out all the time. He would sit and eat a whole big jar of peanut butter in one sitting.
All I could think was: 'who was buying this crap food for him? If he can't leave, why don't you just buy a couple of lettuces for the week and leave him there'.

What I can't understand about people this fat is how do they get this size?
I couldn't afford to eat enough to get to that size, even working, let alone just sitting there living off the benefit.

The ppl I have absolutely no sympathy for are the ones who look after them. You hear about lots of them too fat to leave their house/room/sofa. So there's obviously someone else buying the food and giving it to them. I remember a TV doco about fat people and it had one 20 yr old who was so fat he couldn't leave his room. And his mother was crying and complaining about how he just wouldn't stop eating and would just pig out all the time. He would sit and eat a whole big jar of peanut butter in one sitting.
All I could think was: 'who was buying this crap food for him? If he can't leave, why don't you just buy a couple of lettuces for the week and leave him there'.

seriously! if you are too fat to move then you obviously are getting help from somebody, and if they would just say, "no, honey, i will not pass you the fried chicken" then you would get skinny in a hurry.

seriously! if you are too fat to move then you obviously are getting help from somebody, and if they would just say, "no, honey, i will not pass you the fried chicken" then you would get skinny in a hurry.
True... After all, that means they'd actually have to get up! You know, imagine that, actually move from where they are!!

KYAAAAA!!!!!! IT'S AN EARTHQUAKE!! EVERYONE RUN FOR THE SHELER...oh...wait, it's just a very fat guy getting up for the first time in months.... (sorry, I had to ;))

seriously! if you are too fat to move then you obviously are getting help from somebody, and if they would just say, "no, honey, i will not pass you the fried chicken" then you would get skinny in a hurry.

That's what I've always thought. Yet these 'Fat lump dies on the sofa and firemen have to bust open a wall and use a crane to winch blubberbutt out' stories occur so frequently that I figured I was missing something here.

480lbs?!!!! Holy shit!

That's four times what I weigh and I'm six feet tall.


Though I want to know why relevant authorities did not offer, or even force, help.

Because it happened in America?




Yep. You're a towering intellect with that hateful arrogant crap.

Personally, I think Fascist Ideals metaphor is as brilliant as it is true.

She was probably playing NationStates.

Personally, I think Fascist Ideals metaphor is as brilliant as it is true.

Thank you, I have been reassured of the international community's ignorance. Don't you realize that incidents such as this are rare? Or maybe, you are so desperate to put down the United States (it would be nice if people would use our nations actual name, and not the name of the continent), that they will use anything, whether it be true or not. Dispite what CNN says, most of the United States in not obese.

She was probably playing NationStates.

So, which one of the mods is missing? ;)

Anyways, I agree with what was said about the people buying the 'murder weapons' and handing it to them. Kinda makes them accessory to murder, doesn't? I remember seeing a show that had a special on this woman who was so fat she looked like a stranded whale, lying on a few mattresses, and her husband, who was skinny as hell himself, who kept feeding her junk food that had "lethal" all over it. So the reporter asks "Why do you keep buying her that stuff?!" To which he replied that if he didn't she'd be sad... :headbang:

Thank you, I have been reassured of the international community's ignorance. Don't you realize that incidents such as this are rare? Or maybe, you are so desperate to put down the United States (it would be nice if people would use our nations actual name, and not the name of the continent), that they will use anything, whether it be true or not. Dispite what CNN says, most of the United States in not obese.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but the last medical report (not CNN) I read stated that 58% of the US are obese.
That's a majority!

Since we're on the topic of fat people, who wants some world record stats?

Ok... *takes out her copy of the Guiness Book of World Records 2004*

Let's look up the world's fattest people!!

The heaviest man... Jon Brewer of Minnoch, USA, 6'1". His maximum weight peaked in 1978 when he weighed 1400 lbs, or 635 kg. When he died in 1983, he weighed only 798lbs or 362kg.

The heaviest woman... Rosalie Bradford, USA. Her weight peaked at 1,190lbs, 540 kg in January of 1987, and since then had been put on a controlled diet and by February of 1994 was down to 283lbs or 128 kg.

The largest waistline... belonged to Walter Hudson, USA. It measured 119 inches (or 3.02 metres), when his weight peaked at 1,197lbs, or 543 kg.

4ft 10'' and 480lbs, she'd be wider than she was tall

58% are overweight OR obese. There is a huge difference, numnuts.

Since we're on the topic of fat people, who wants some world record stats?

Ok... *takes out her copy of the Guiness Book of World Records 2004*

Let's look up the world's fattest people!!

The heaviest man... Jon Brewer of Minnoch, USA, 6'1". His maximum weight peaked in 1978 when he weighed 1400 lbs, or 635 kg. When he died in 1983, he weighed only 798lbs or 362kg.

The heaviest woman... Rosalie Bradford, USA. Her weight peaked at 1,190lbs, 540 kg in January of 1987, and since then had been put on a controlled diet and by February of 1994 was down to 283lbs or 128 kg.

The largest waistline... belonged to Walter Hudson, USA. It measured 119 inches (or 3.02 metres), when his weight peaked at 1,197lbs, or 543 kg.

The US going for gold again...

Anyways, how old did these guys get?

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the last medical report (not CNN) I read stated that 58% of the US are obese.
That's a majority!

And I'm here to tell you that I'm constantly surrounded by a whole lot of Americans every single day, and that statistic is simply impossible. That percentage may be overweight, but that's entirely different.

The US going for gold again...

Anyways, how old did these guys get?
Jon Brewer - 1941-1983, age 42
Walter Hudson - 1944-1991, age 47
Rosalie Bradford - n/a; it didn't say in the copy of The Guiness Book of World Records 2004, page 8.

but surely the morning before she last sat down on that couch she must have passed a mirror or a window and seen herself, how could someone so fat do that and it make them want to sit down and never get up again rather than go for a walk or something?!

Maybe she got sick and lived on the couch for a few days, but honestly, I would never let myself get that fat.

As I said before, I am a bit shocked that tis is only comming to your attention over a month after the internet was first bombarded with the case.

This is fairly obviously a case of mental illness and neglect. :(

Like it's been said before, the thing that bothers me is not the woman eating all the food, but whoever was giving her all the food. The fat woman was probably mentally ill and needed help, but giving her all of that food would be unforgivable.

And I'm here to tell you that I'm constantly surrounded by a whole lot of Americans every single day, and that statistic is simply impossible. That percentage may be overweight, but that's entirely different.

Regardless, if you ever go outside of the U.S., you almost never see overweight OR obese people. Any country I've been to, all I see are physically fit-looking people. It's not because they're health fanatics, either. It's because they don't eat anywhere NEAR as much junk food, and they actually walk places much more than most Americans.

Regardless, if you ever go outside of the U.S., you almost never see overweight OR obese people. Any country I've been to, all I see are physically fit-looking people. It's not because they're health fanatics, either. It's because they don't eat anywhere NEAR as much junk food, and they actually walk places much more than most Americans.
I know... Even Canadians aren't even as bad as the Americans. I know our obeseity rate including overweight Canadians is something like 35% or something like that.

480lbs?!!!! Holy shit!

That's four times what I weigh and I'm six feet tall!

You are six feet tall and you weigh 120 pounds? I think that that is unusually skinny.

That is about one of the saddest stories I've ever heard...

Yeah...that really is sad--it had to be a very miserable way to go. :-(

*eyeballs this thread*

Some peoples' compassion is mind boggling.

*walks away in disgust*

*eyeballs this thread*

Some peoples' compassion is mind boggling.

*walks away in disgust*

Better that than to have no compassion, I think.

Better that than to have no compassion, I think.

That's what I meant ... imply a (lack of) in my sentence ... it was sarcasm. :)

American culture is seriously f*cked up.

That's just very sad. Her boyfriend should've gotten her help the first moment that he couldn't remove her from the couch.

That's what I meant ... imply a (lack of) in my sentence ... it was sarcasm. :)

My bad.

And to the last person to comment...yeah, it's hard to understand how another human being could know of this situation and just let her continue to suffer in his presence. That's actually quite scary for me to contemplate.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the last medical report (not CNN) I read stated that 58% of the US are obese.
That's a majority!
As Al-Kair put it, it is overweight or obese. I have seen reports like the one you mentioned. The current "overweight" category includes several pro. baseball, football, and hockey players who are actually in quite good shape.
So, in an effort to make one feel better about one's own country, one would put down the United States and say that we are just a bunch of fat slobs who still managed to never lose a war. (Vietnam could be argued, but lets not go down that road right now. . .it wasn't really a "war" anyways)

This leads to another question; Why is it that anyone can insult the United States and her people, but if an American insults any other country or nationality, he/she is called a "racist"?

As Al-Kair put it, it is overweight or obese. I have seen reports like the one you mentioned. The current "overweight" category includes several pro. baseball, football, and hockey players who are actually in quite good shape.

That's why a simple weight/height ratio isn't enough--muscle is actually denser than fat! Aren't there better calculations than that?

That's why a simple weight/height ratio isn't enough--muscle is actually denser than fat! Aren't there better calculations than that?
Body fat percentage? I dont think that relies on height or anything...but I dont know how it works.
Yeah...its amazing how people can turn a thread about some lady dying from being overweight into an 'OMG amnric R suczor!' thread. Americans might be overweight, but Europeans have some serious anger issues.

That's so sad; poor woman. :(

As Al-Kair put it, it is overweight or obese. I have seen reports like the one you mentioned. The current "overweight" category includes several pro. baseball, football, and hockey players who are actually in quite good shape.

Sorry, I didn't realise that there's so many pro. Athletes in the US. Millions I suppose? :rolleyes:

To be considered obese, you need a BMI of 30 or over. That equates to being about 20 kilos (45 pounds) over a normal weight for the average height man (15kgs for women). They take into consideration your body shape and fitness levels as well when compiling these reports (usually a hip to waist ratio, which should be 0.95 or less for men and 0.8 or less for women to be healthy).

Statistically, pro athletes not going to alter the figures much at all. The fact is the majority of Americans are overwieght or obese. You could even argue that obese is the majority as there's more obese than any other body type. True, not an outright majority, but if you broke it down into each sub-category (anorexic, underweight, normal, overweight, obese, morbidly obese) the biggest (excuse the pun) category is obese.
And the trend over the last few decades is been towards increasing numbers of obese. So all those 'overweight' (read fat) ppl are just obese in training!
So 'numnuts' Al-Kair, your reply?

BTW to Aesthetia, you are seriously underweight! Your BMI is 16.9. You should consider gaining weight - 20 pounds (10kgs) to get to a healthy weight.

This is a metaphor for Amerika. An extreme one maybe but one which has relevance. Fat stupid people with a multitude of cable channels glued to the sofa eating junk food forever, getting more and more fat and more and more stupid. Probably watching Fox News and all the time thinking that Amerika is the greatest nation in the world... Sad.A metaphor for America my ass. Yes it is America no Ks. Fox news has nothing to do with it ither, lovely shit talking there, the only problem was this lady was to lazy to go out and exercise.

I was once attached to a couch. But that was with duct-tape after I fell asleep at a party.

I'm sorry, though. But what kind of person knowingly lets another wallow around in filth, unmoving for years? Long enough for her skin to MELD with the couch! :eek: This is borderline murder in my eyes! I'm sorry, but once she starts pooping on herself, I start looking for help! :(

That's why a simple weight/height ratio isn't enough--muscle is actually denser than fat! Aren't there better calculations than that?
It's not the density, it's the fact that ppl with high LBM can be considered overweight or even obese using these tables. But it is a good rule of thumb for the majority of the population.

There's several better calculations:
1. The most accurate way is to dissect you and seperate the body fat from the rest of you.
2. However if you want to be alive to know the results, the next best way is to dunk you in a pool of cold water. Fat is less dense than water, so floats. They winch you in on a weighing machine and dunk you down. You need to breath out when under water to get a more accurate measure (which is hard to do pyschologically). This gives you your LBM (Lean Body Mass) and thus Body fat can be measured from it. Very accurate if done properly.
3. You can buy scales that send an electrical signal through one foot and measure the time it takes to come out the other one (you need to input your height and sex). This is because fat and muscle are different conductors. I think fat slows down the signal. It can give you a fairly accurate reading, but if you're sweating (especially if your feet are wet) or if you're an athlete with more muscle mass, you can get high readings.
4. A simpler way is to get your Doctor (or Gym instructor) to use a pair of calipers to measure your skinfolds at specific sites on your body (usually tricep, scapula, obliques, next to tummy button and quadricep or combination of the 5). Fat is subcutaneous (sits above the muscle and below the skin) so the calipers grab mostly fat. Add them up and compare them to tables according to age and sex (compiled from the dead bodies, see #1). This gives you a general idea but can be very inaccurate, if done improperly. I once had an instructor take 4 readings and use the table for 3 (so was told I was obese). I also had another one take the readings through my clothes! If the calipers aren't calibrated properly, the person testing you uses the wrong sites (the places on your body are very specific and a few inches out can alter the result a lot). It's very tricky. Ideally you need a few readings. I did a Fitness Instructor course a few years back and praticising on each other we would get ranges of up to 10%. I was tested and got 8% from one person, 12% from another, 14%, and 17%. The average being 13% which was most likely considering my fitness level, strength and general body shape.
Finally, these tables were designed in Europe, so if you're from a different race (especially Polynesians) you'll probably get an inaccurate reading. Also body type: ppl with high levels of muscle mass always come out with high fat % in these tests.
Measuring your Hip and Waist and dividing Hip by Waist is a easy, simple way of accessing your fatness. A ratio above 0.95 for men and 0.8 for women is unhealthy.

Yep. You're a towering intellect with that hateful arrogant crap.

Aww, c'mon he isn't THAT wrong, he just exaggerated the situation a "little bit"...

Body fat percentage? I dont think that relies on height or anything...but I dont know how it works.
Yeah...its amazing how people can turn a thread about some lady dying from being overweight into an 'OMG amnric R suczor!' thread. Americans might be overweight, but Europeans have some serious anger issues.

Ah, true, perhaps some of us really got some anger problems, but we shouldn't be so proud of our "oh so low" overweight or obese ratio, My father once told me a story, when he was in hospital because of some OP he met some guy that was there for a weight reduction, (honestly that guy was so fat he could live from Mineral Water only for more than 6 weeks).

Anyway his mother always managed to smuggle in some of that "healthy and strong food" because she was afraid he would starve to death in there, and the doctors managed not to notice that...

When they told him to get up because he lost enough weight (astonishingly he really lost some weight, just not enought as you will see), he did so. It took two seconds for his entire connective tissue to be torn apart (it had weakened, during the six weeks in hospital partly due to the lack of movement, partly due to the "healthy" food from his mother). The doctors tried to save him with an emergency OP, but they where unable to compensate the heavy loss of blood and incestines...

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!

True, not an outright majority, but if you broke it down into each sub-category (anorexic, underweight, normal, overweight, obese, morbidly obese) the biggest (excuse the pun) category is obese.

I very seriously doubt that.

Ah, true, perhaps some of us really got some anger problems, but we shouldn't be so proud of our "oh so low" overweight or obese ratio, My father once told me a story, when he was in hospital because of some OP he met some guy that was there for a weight reduction, (honestly that guy was so fat he could live from Mineral Water only for more than 6 weeks).

Anyway his mother always managed to smuggle in some of that "healthy and strong food" because she was afraid he would starve to death in there, and the doctors managed not to notice that...

When they told him to get up because he lost enough weight (astonishingly he really lost some weight, just not enought as you will see), he did so. It took two seconds for his entire connective tissue to be torn apart (it had weakened, during the six weeks in hospital partly due to the lack of movement, partly due to the "healthy" food from his mother). The doctors tried to save him with an emergency OP, but they where unable to compensate the heavy loss of blood and incestines...

accckkkk!! please tell me you're kidding...

wont somebody think of the children!!

Thank you, I have been reassured of the international community's ignorance. Don't you realize that incidents such as this are rare? Or maybe, you are so desperate to put down the United States (it would be nice if people would use our nations actual name, and not the name of the continent), that they will use anything, whether it be true or not. Dispite what CNN says, most of the United States in not obese.

Lemme explain - he said it was "a metaphor for america", not "a thing that happens every day in america". That means that even if it only happens just this once, in a poetic way it can symbolise some facets of american life.

And according to the national heart, lung and blood institue of the national health institutes http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/obesity/ob_home.htm 97 million adults in the US are obese. Given that according to the CIA world factbook 2004 the population of the US is a little under 300 million, and that there must be at least some children in the US, between 1/3 and 1/2 of all adults in the US are obese. Whatever CNN says.

This is fairly obviously a case of mental illness and neglect. :(

This is a fairly obvious case of greedy dumbass eating too much food. Neglect my skinny white ass. Am I supposed to take food away from fat people?

And according to the national heart, lung and blood institue of the national health institutes http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/obesity/ob_home.htm 97 million adults in the US are obese. Given that according to the CIA world factbook 2004 the population of the US is a little under 300 million, and that there must be at least some children in the US, between 1/3 and 1/2 of all adults in the US are obese. Whatever CNN says.
Population of USA: 290,809,777 (let's say 291 Million)
Population over 18 217,766,271 (218 Million)
(These figures from http://www.census.gov, as at July 1st 2003)
That means that 97/218 = 44.4%
That's a lot o'Blubber!

This is a fairly obvious case of greedy dumbass eating too much food. Neglect my skinny white ass. Am I supposed to take food away from fat people?

Maybe some darned EXERCISE would have helped BEFORE it got too bad :headbang:

I remember a Top Tip in 'Viz' from years ago:
"Fattys! Avoid the temptation to reach for that fatty doughnut in your fridge by not buying it in the first place."

Writing this reminded me of another one:
"Fattys! Wait until 10 minutes before closing time to buy a stack of doughnuts. They're half-priced. But then you knew that already didn't you?"

Population of USA: 290,809,777 (let's say 291 Million)
Population over 18 217,766,271 (218 Million)
(These figures from http://www.census.gov, as at July 1st 2003)
That means that 97/218 = 44.4%
That's a lot o'Blubber!

Why population over 18? I'm sure it's possible for kids to be obese too *wink*

Why population over 18? I'm sure it's possible for kids to be obese too *wink*

I think the figure was 97 million adults, not just 97 million people.

Are there figures for the number of obese kids? That is kind of a bigger problem, as adults can generally do as they please, but kids are supposed to be under the supervision of guardians

This is a fairly obvious case of greedy dumbass eating too much food. Neglect my skinny white ass. Am I supposed to take food away from fat people?

She was One With The Couch! You don't have to take the frickin' food away from the fat woman. But do you continue to deliver buckets o' chicken to her thoroughly soiled self?!

Neglect, hell! Sounds like Murder to me!

Are there figures for the number of obese kids? That is kind of a bigger problem, as adults can generally do as they please, but kids are supposed to be under the supervision of guardians
I recall reading somewhere that the number of obese kids in America is close to 20%. So not as bad as adults, but considering this is meant to be the most active time of your life, pretty worrying.

Lemme explain - he said it was "a metaphor for america", not "a thing that happens every day in america". That means that even if it only happens just this once, in a poetic way it can symbolise some facets of american life.

Yeah, and Europe is like that sports team that can't handle not being on top anymore.

That is disgusting!

Hmm, sat on her fat ass and did nothing eventually fading into oblivion. Sounds like the UN.

now now, let's not get political ;)


Wow, someone got to 1400 lbs? That's ten of me!

Recipe to lose weight: Burn more calories than you consume. Yes, it's that simple.

Hmm, sat on her fat ass and did nothing eventually fading into oblivion. Sounds like the UN.

lol

Fat people scare me... if they sit on you you'd die.

She was One With The Couch! You don't have to take the frickin' food away from the fat woman. But do you continue to deliver buckets o' chicken to her thoroughly soiled self?!

Neglect, hell! Sounds like Murder to me!

it was a radio controlled couch, she got herself to the drivethru. i was nowher near officer, i swear

Of course this isn't an american problem only. Scientists belive that US is about 20 yeas before Europe. What actions have the american governemnt taken against the menace? In Sweden we are right now discussing raised taxes for high-calorie food, something US have tried, if yes, how did that turn out?