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Being a horny teenage guy, I don't think there should be a dress code. We need more "distracting female clothing articles". :D

But from a teacher's standpoint, I can verywell see why a slight dress policy would be needed. I see no need for uniforms though.

If there's one thing I learned in high school, it's that high schoolers are fucking STUPID.

I dunno if I trust them to dress themselves. I mean, look at them! There's little freshmen walking around practically nude! Call me prude, but I'd much rather know a lady who can be attractive WITHOUT having to basically flash their stuff.

The curriculum in public schools is hardly enough to hold one's attention, so I think we need something else to look at when the teacher's not saying anything useful. Down with dresscodes!

I can understand how coming into school wearing a bikini could be distracting, but some of the rules they're imposing in my school are ludicrous: solid color shirts for everyone, no jeans, collared shirts for everyone, no hats or hoodies or doo-rags in class.. c'mon! It's not the school's job to decide what's moral or decent, it's the parent/guardian/student's job.

Oy, stop complaining and just wear the uniform. It makes my morning simple and fast knowing what I'm going to wear.

Besides, you need to learn that stuff anyway, there might not be welfare when Imperial Emporer George Bush is ruling 20 years later...

well I'm not saying that the dress code should be the number one concern but I do think they're intruding on our personal freedoms.. besides, the schools should focus more on their curriculums rather than what we wear.

Oy, stop complaining and just wear the uniform. It makes my morning simple and fast knowing what I'm going to wear.

Besides, you need to learn that stuff anyway, there might not be welfare when Imperial Emporer George Bush is ruling 20 years later...

That's the way I always looked at it.

"What do I wanna wear today? Hell, no difference between any of it" **throws on something**

Made mornings a lot faster :p

solid color shirts for everyone, no jeans, collared shirts for everyone, no hats or hoodies or doo-rags in class I don't know what school you went to, but in quite a few some of those rules are there to stop gang apparel. I know of a few schools that pretty much HAD to put those rules into place, because kids would randomly beat each other.

.....Fucking high schoolers...

I can understand how coming into school wearing a bikini could be distracting, but some of the rules they're imposing in my school are ludicrous: solid color shirts for everyone, no jeans, collared shirts for everyone, no hats or hoodies or doo-rags in class.. c'mon! It's not the school's job to decide what's moral or decent, it's the parent/guardian/student's job.
1. Parents/guardians/students aren't doing their job then.
2. Gang signs/symbols/"colors" do not belong in school.
3. Solid color shirts is a simplified way of banning graphics. Some graphics could be allowed, but some should definately be banned. By going solid color removes the "grey" area of what is appropriate and what isn't.
4. A students job is to learn. Anything distracting them from that shouldnt be in school.

But I don't think striped shirts or t-shirts will promote gang violence. This is more of an issue about "moral decency" rather than gang violence imho. And I still go to that school -- they're imposing these rules this year, tightening last year's rules.

Oy, stop complaining and just wear the uniform. It makes my morning simple and fast knowing what I'm going to wear.

Besides, you need to learn that stuff anyway, there might not be welfare when Imperial Emporer George Bush is ruling 20 years later...
Why must EVERY thread devolve into a bash-Bush one?

Not saying this has done so, but trying to head them off at the pass.

Well I'm strongly in favor of dress codes in public shools and would have no problem with requiring a uniform but there is a major caveat here, I likewise do not believe public shool should be mandatory. Once one makes school attendance mandatory then a whole new set of standards for what it is permissible to require comes into play, and only that which is necessary for the functioning of the school is it permissible to require. Merely because something would make education more efficent does not mean it is permissible to require it. I imagine a dress code could be constructed solely of limiting those things which make esucation impossible instead of merely difficult, like one prohibiting headphones producing more than 3dB at the ear in classes while the instructor is talking, but usually these sort of things are not part of a dress code.

1. Parents/guardians/students aren't doing their job then.
2. Gang signs/symbols/"colors" do not belong in school.
3. Solid color shirts is a simplified way of banning graphics. Some graphics could be allowed, but some should definately be banned. By going solid color removes the "grey" area of what is appropriate and what isn't.
4. A students job is to learn. Anything distracting them from that shouldnt be in school.

1. But moral decency is not an issue of the schools...
2. I agree, but I very highly doubt that the majority of students will be wearing gang signs or symbols...
3. It's our decision to decide what's appropriate though.
4. The responsible student will learn and pay attention. This teaches responsibilty. Even without dress code, students are easily distracted by friends, etc.

Really i dont care what anyone wears. I coule care less. I dont care what im putting on in the morning. I just put on whats comfortable. I dont think uniforms are needed. O and Island of the Rose, that Bush comment was the stupidest thing i ever heard.

I watch Inuyasha on a regular basis and I always thought the absolute conformity of Kagome's uniform was creepy. I must oppose dress codes in the name of indivduality.

I am saying this as an extremely horny teenager...but you go to school to learn. not to get distracted.you are far too stupid when in high school. if I want to see a hot chick half naked I just go to the beach or the movies...

1. But moral decency is not an issue of the schools...
2. I agree, but I very highly doubt that the majority of students will be wearing gang signs or symbols...
3. It's our decision to decide what's appropriate though.
4. The responsible student will learn and pay attention. This teaches responsibilty. Even without dress code, students are easily distracted by friends, etc.

1. Agreed
2. You've never been in Florida... and if you live there, wow O_o
3. Agreed.
4. The word "responsible" and "student" does not mix together. Aka, teenagers are ignorant, horny bastards. Can you tell I've given up on my generation :P

By the way Letila, check your telegrams...

Kids just dont have any sense of decency or fashion anymore. It's the school's duty to keep things at least looking like a educational enviroment.

I'm not suggesting a set uniform, just some severe restrictions. Like actually banning clothing of certain brands.

No I don't live in Flordia, I live in New England. I understand that there's more gang symbols in bigger cities so the rules could be applied appropriately but really.. how does banning jeans and tank-tops really contribute to stopping gang symbols in school?

Kids just dont have any sense of decency or fashion anymore. It's the school's duty to keep things at least looking like a educational enviroment.

I'm not suggesting a set uniform, just some severe restrictions. Like actually banning clothing of certain brands.

But it's freedom of expression! This is an intrusion of our rights to express ourselves freely. Fashion and decency are irrelevant.

My intermediate school required us to wear polo shirts of two colors and khaki pants or shorts. I wanted a little more freedom than that.

No I don't live in Flordia, I live in New England. I understand that there's more gang symbols in bigger cities so the rules could be applied appropriately but really.. how does banning jeans and tank-tops really contribute to stopping gang symbols in school?

Flordia, heh heh :P

Seriously, I do not know... ummm, I guess it's Christian Morality at work :rolleyes:

More seriously, they shouldn't ban jeans, but there should be a limit on the tank tops... but at least uniforms let me get done in the morning faster. Besides clothes doesn't make a person...

you're right clothes don't make a person. I really don't care what I wear, but I'd like to wear something else rather than a collared-shirt and khakis..

Shutup with the people in high school are stupid and all teenagers are horny, ADD, retards. If people can distract themselves for an entire class over a girl's clothing they'll find some other way to distract themselves if she was wearign one of those taliban-veil-thingies. Pretentious douches.

I am completely against school uniforms but completely in favor of imposing order in schools, even if it means the National Guard come in and points rifles at kids' heads. Parents can complain till the cows come home that schools shouldn't have the power to impose that kind of discipline; they can be listened to when they impose it themselves.

OK, maybe not rifles...tranquilizer darts should do the trick. Anything that keeps those damn kids from killing each other.

Khakis are cool...

I say if you want to discipline them that we put subliminal messages on the gum they chew...

Its not a moral issue, its a free speech issue. The first amendment prohibits abridging speech of any kind and any dress code in a public school does this. Besides I don't want a bunch of nazis telling me what to wear. There are a lot of goths at my school. They scare the hell out of me but they should be allowed to express themselves. They aren't hurting anyone so it is no ones busniess but there own.

My opinion: Don't care... I'm out of the system in a year anyways...

Its not a moral issue, its a free speech issue. The first amendment prohibits abridging speech of any kind and any dress code in a public school does this. Besides I don't want a bunch of nazis telling me what to wear. There are a lot of goths at my school. They scare the hell out of me but they should be allowed to express themselves. They aren't hurting anyone so it is no ones busniess but there own.

The First Amendment says "Congress shall make no law..." Needless to say, it doesn't say a damn thing about public schools. Frankly, as far as I am concerned, the First Amendment doesn't apply to children anyway...

1. But moral decency is not an issue of the schools...
You stated it was the parents/students/guardians job to do that... and I was saying that they werent doing their job. Not wheter or not moral decency is an issue for schools.
2. I agree, but I very highly doubt that the majority of students will be wearing gang signs or symbols...
whether or not a majority of students wear them isnt the issue. It's that in order to prevent problems occuring in the first place, the wearing of "colors" should be banned.
3. It's our decision to decide what's appropriate though.
Ummmmm, no. As you said earlier, it should be the parents/guardians. It's your responsibility to learn what it is your school chooses to teach.
4. The responsible student will learn and pay attention.
And you would leave the irresponsible student by the wayside then?
This teaches responsibilty. Even without dress code, students are easily distracted by friends, etc.
Not having a dress code does nothing to teach responsibility. It teaches about not having a dress code.

Its not a moral issue, its a free speech issue. The first amendment prohibits abridging speech of any kind and any dress code in a public school does this. Besides I don't want a bunch of nazis telling me what to wear. There are a lot of goths at my school. They scare the hell out of me but they should be allowed to express themselves. They aren't hurting anyone so it is no ones busniess but there own.
The Supreme court has already ruled that student's right to free speech isn't on the same level of that of an adults. It has, and can be supressed.

I personally like dress codes. I don't like uniforms, too stifling. I like my school's policy (no stomach, no underwear and half decent coverage).

Letila, it's sad that you relate animes to real life, it really is as much as I agree with you.

I'm not big on uniforms, but I do think that there should be some dressing rules. The dress code at my school is what I think all schools should have, it's pretty loose but you can't get away with something extremely ridiculous.

Okay, right out of our little "student handbook" is our dress code:
*Shorts must have at least a three inch in-seam
*No stomach showing
*No shirts longer than your shorts
*No thin strapped tank tops
*Any unnecessary belt length must be tucked into your pocket
*A belt must be worn with very baggy pants
*No wearing hankerchiefs on your head
*No clothing with Old English font
*No inappropriate messages or pictures allowed on shirts

That's basically all the rules we have to follow at my middle school.

Been there done that. Catholic school boy. No Priest comments! ;)

One thing I remember is that we didn't have any "Hey look at my new *obscenly expensive clothing* issues."

I think the parents like it as well as the school picked simple cheap clothing. White shirt, brown cords and brown shoes for the boys. White shirt, plaid skirt and black shoes for the girls.

Going to a uniformed high school, I personally love them. I find girls hotter when they have some decency.

Been there done that. Catholic school boy. No Priest comments! ;)

One thing I remember is that we didn't have any "Hey look at my new *obscenly expensive clothing* issues."

I think the parents like it as well as the school picked simple cheap clothing. White shirt, brown cords and brown shoes for the boys. White shirt, plaid skirt and black shoes for the girls.

Seconded, except... Black shoes, black pants. Green or Blue kilt (I go to a Catholic school with Green kilts, the other one in my town has Blue).

And you would leave the irresponsible student by the wayside then?

They choose not to pay attention, they choose to not succeed.
That's all that needs to be said about those students.

FREEDOM!

Fack uniforms and dress codes.

That is all I have to say on the matter.

FREEDOM!

Fack uniforms and dress codes.

That is all I have to say on the matter.
If you were truely for freedom, then you wouldnt even go to school, unless you chose to.

I'm all for uniforms in school, and strict regulations about non-religious headwear (obviously people like Muslims and Sikhs should be allowed to wear what they feel they need to).

The reason being, uniforms stop the debates about what is and is not acceptable...there's no subjectivity involved. For instance, if you allow people to wear shirts with writing on it, you can end up in an argument over what does or does not constitute "offensive", and you end up with a HUGE headache over that. If everyone is wearing the same plain shirt (or one of a select few), you avoid this problem. Nor do you get into a debate over which clothes are and are not too revealing, because there's an exact standard--if you are not wearing the uniform, then you're in violation.

And there should certainly be no non-religious headwear, because some of that does identify gangs. Again, the only way to deal with this is to go for an all-or-nothing policy, or else you get claims of discrimination. Yes, this is very strict, but the reason for all of it is that unless everyone is subject to the exact same rules--rules that cannot be twisted around for the benefit or detriment of specific groups of people--then it will never be equitable for everyone. Either you have NO restrictions whatsoever (that is, eliminate ALL dress codes) and accept all that goes with it--the indecent exposure, the gang symbols and so on--or you make everyone wear the same thing, so that everyone is subject to the rules.

What you wear off of school property, of course, is your own business, so it is not like all freedom of expression has been taken away. It's no different than if a company wants its employees to wear suits, and its female employees to wear dresses or suits. These people can still wear whatever they want on their off hours...but if they want to keep their job, they do not violate that dress code, because it applies to everyone.

bah, it really isn't even a big issue.. just letting off some steam. :) It's better than your usual Bush-Kerry thread, eh? :D

We could wear what ever we liked at our school as long as we were wearing shoes, and I think there might have been a rule against beer logos. We never had any issues with offensive tshirts, even if there was some slightly dodgy language on the occasional one. If a girl dressed like a skank, she'd be called a skank. That solves girls wearing too skimpy clothing...

we had uniforms in school, even to th extent that jewelery other then studs in the ear lobe, and make-up were banned. Being a guy it didnt really bother me but we got over it.
btw it was a public school

Individuality is a fine an wonderful thing.

On your own time.

Even though Im a staunch liberal, I favor school uniforms.

Too many children are ostracized becuase they arent wearing the right shoes, or whatever.

when everyone is wearing the same thing, it petty much stops that.

Hailing from sunny old england you tend to find that everywhere has a uniform in school. Everyone looks the same and everyone is equal. Your in school to learn not to pull, however people can look just as good in uniform as in normal clothes. Uniforms just make it fairer on people who cant afford massive wardrobes and a different outfit everyday. Gives you a chance to get to know the person and not their parents financial background.

having gone to catholic school for all but two years i have to say that a dress code is silly (although i likes the way the girls looked in their uniforms).
the bully still picked on the weaker kids, the kid who picked his nose and ate the boogers was the same in public school. that being said kids today are just same as kids in the 50's, 60's and 70's....they like to rebel against authority just as their parents did.

Dress code? NO! Required bathing? YES!
... For some reason, we had a real problem with that at my highschool.

kids should be able to wear anything they please. they should be allowed to come to school naked if they please. the crap about "it will cause distraction" is easily taken care of; any child who causes problems as a result of what another is wearing or not wearing is sent home for the week. if they do it again they are expelled. punishing the person for wearing something just because other kids have no control is silly...we need to quit punishing people for being different, and start punishing those who can't get a grip and act respectfully no matter what somebody looks like or is wearing.

You guys think you have it bad... I have to wear a blazer, tie and smart shoes to school. They're really strict about enforcing it and we can get in trouble for little things, such as not having our shirt tucked in or having the collar unbuttoned on our shirts. I'll have to wear suit when I get into sixth form as well. Now I don't mind the idea of having a dress code of some sort, but it's way too strict. I can understand why they don't want people wearing really stupid clothes, but the rules we have seem a little like overkill. And I'm stuck dressed like this until I'm nearly 19. :(

I watch Inuyasha on a regular basis and I always thought the absolute conformity of Kagome's uniform was creepy. I must oppose dress codes in the name of indivduality.

If you must use clothing to express your individuality, then you really aren't that much of an individual in the first place, are you?

If you must use clothing to express your individuality, then you really aren't that much of an individual in the first place, are you?
so very very true.

just think of all these freakin' kids terrorizing their parents to buy them ridiculously expensive clothes. it wouldn't harm them to wear a little more decent stuff

I think there should be a dress code; it would promote more cohesiveness among the student body. (Why do Boy and Girl Scouts wear them? ;))However, I do not think one should be implemented unless the teachers must ALSO wear a coordinating uniform of their own -- it's only fair.

As a student who attended a very liberal high school - which also specialized in the arts - I feel that while uniforms will take away the individual's uniqueness that they express with clothing, it might now be such a big loss. For the most part, everyone looked like they had stepped out of the 80s (and this is when I was in high school in the late 90s, doing into 2002).

While I had no problem with that, there were times when I wanted a uniform because I hated my clothes so much, especially the way they fit me. (Girls' clothes never fit me right and some of the boys' stuff was too big for me o_O)

Now that I'm in my 3rd year of college, I feel that we should have had uniform in elementary and secondary school. It would have made life a lot easier because that way, your parents only had to wash a few things, there would never be a clothing dilemma when you're late and whining because your stuff is dirty.

However, I like college wear. I wear guys' clothing (since I do mostly go to a school filled with horny bastards - the sex-drive doesn't drop when they leave high school, they're just as horny as ever. I should know, I do have plenty of guy friends...). So, now, I think college wear would be better... That way everyone is usually covered and you can't make fun of anybody because you all look like you pulled your stuff off the floor, or just rolled out of bed.

As for teachers and uniforms, what I'd love to see, is teachers wearing business clothes again instead of what they wear now. Some of my profs dress like the students and that's scary! I wish that professors/teachers still maintained a strict dresscode and wore business attire.

Hailing from sunny old england you tend to find that everywhere has a uniform in school. Everyone looks the same and everyone is equal. Your in school to learn not to pull, however people can look just as good in uniform as in normal clothes. Uniforms just make it fairer on people who cant afford massive wardrobes and a different outfit everyday. Gives you a chance to get to know the person and not their parents financial background.

Uniforms rob teachers of a valuable way to gain a better understanding of their students. The way a person dresses can say a lot about their personality, background, and attitude.

Uniforms rob teachers of a valuable way to gain a better understanding of their students. The way a person dresses can say a lot about their personality, background, and attitude.
That is what we call nonverbal communication. The teacher can still get a better understanding of their students through verbal communication.

I remember my APC100 (Principles of Communications) prof, on the first day, asked each person in turn to stand up, and say their name, where they're from, their interests and why they are taking the program that they are in now. I think that's just as valuable, or even so becauseusing the way a person dresses to understand them may not always work.

I watch Inuyasha on a regular basis and I always thought the absolute conformity of Kagome's uniform was creepy. I must oppose dress codes in the name of indivduality.
No doubt you wish to display your individuality by wearing the latest mass-produced fashions, made in Third-World country sweat shops and displaying huge multi-national corporate logos, which happens to be the same one you saw the latest flavour-of-the-month pop/film celebrity wearing.
Just like all your friends.
;)

I used to teach in a school that had a lot of major problems (drugs and truancy mainly, but also bullying and a little gang-related shit) and NO uniform policy.
It was changed the last year I was there, and most of the changes were made to stamp a lot of the problems. Hoodies for example, they hide your face. This makes it impossible to identfy any students engaged in wrong-doing. As an example that happened: A teacher saw some students buying drugs from a car that had stopped next to the school, by the time he had gotten over there, the students had run off, and he wasn't able to positively identify them because they all had hoodies on. He knew who some were, cause he taught them, but they swore black and blue it wasn't them, and there wasn't anything the School or the Police could do.
Bringing in a school uniform policy changed that, and reduced truancies, because it was more obvious when students were truant. They were more publically visible. Yes I know, they could have bought a change of gear, but most truancies are spur of the moment thing. If you're planning to be truant, you just don't show up to school.
The school came down hard on students at the start of the school year, rounding up anyone with even minor infringements and keeping them in the SchoolHall all day.
I noticed a huge positive change in attitude amongst the majority of students. The ones who were always in correct and conservative clothing were no longer being singled out and bullied, because they didn't stand out anymore. Other students actually wanted to have a uniform because they couldn't afford to keep up with the latest fashions and welcomed the change (not publically of course, but a few did mention it to me privately). Also being made to wear a conservative dress code enforced upon the students that there were strong expectations of their behaviour while at school. They, as a whole, were a lot more willing to work and study.
Truancy dropped, bullying dropped, suspensions dropped, drug offences dropped. Homework increased (from a typical 2-3 per class to well over half of the 30 students p/class).
That was the first term. The Principal then decided to relax the rules by the second term and all the bad things returned within a few weeks. By the time I left (during the third term - not because of this, because I was heading overseas for another job. Well ok, because of this I had applied for the overseas job), it was as bad as it had ever been. Worse actually. We had the second highest suspension rate for the country for the year, and had new offences like students openly selling and smoking drugs in school, one shooting and two arson attacks on the school toilets. Oh yes, and someone crapped in the hallway and hid it under some paper, so when a teacher picked it up he got a rude surprise. But I think that shows a bit of humour. The teacher found it hillarious. He chuckled about it for the rest of the week. But he is a bit odd. All this happened after the uniform rules were relaxed to what they were previously.
What was happening was that at the beginning, students were shocked into realising that there were bad consequences for their actions. If they were hammered for minor uniform discrepancies, it's obvious that the school wouldn't tolerate any bad behaviour. Then we started tolerating it (or rather the Principal did). It wiped out most of the power that teachers were perceived to have. I could kick out a student for improper uniform, only to have them walk back in a few minutes later with a note from the Principal saying it was ok. My (and ever teacher's) authority was completely undermined, and the students immediately latched onto this. So the negative attitudes and bad behaviour started increasing. They no longer saw any consequences for their actions.
So no uniform rules: Chaos
Uniform rules: a semblance of Order.

That is what we call nonverbal communication. The teacher can still get a better understanding of their students through verbal communication.

I remember my APC100 (Principles of Communications) prof, on the first day, asked each person in turn to stand up, and say their name, where they're from, their interests and why they are taking the program that they are in now. I think that's just as valuable, or even so becauseusing the way a person dresses to understand them may not always work.

Verbal communication doesn't always work either. I'm suggesting that teachers need both to effectively deal with student issues. Nonverbal indicators (such as dress) are invaluable in situations where a student has a problem he or she doesn't want to talk about.

So no uniform rules: Chaos
Uniform rules: a semblance of Order.
I am very inclined to agree.

The Japanese system has it right; uniform for ALL students, which I like that way there are no exceptions in amy event. The only variations are that they have summer and winter uniforms.

Verbal communication doesn't always work either. I'm suggesting that teachers need both to effectively deal with student issues. Nonverbal indicators (such as dress) are invaluable in situations where a student has a problem he or she doesn't want to talk about.
Yes, now that I can agree with. Howeverrm I don't thin clothing says a lot about a person. After all, I dress very casually and like a guy. I've even been mistaken for a guy. So, clothing doesn't always tell the whole story. Body language, however, does.

Verbal communication doesn't always work either. I'm suggesting that teachers need both to effectively deal with student issues. Nonverbal indicators (such as dress) are invaluable in situations where a student has a problem he or she doesn't want to talk about.
I think if the students having problems then other non-verbal indicators such as body langauge, changes in behaviours and attitudes are far more likely to be noticed and acted on than the fact they wearing different clothes today.

Being a horny teenage guy, I don't think there should be a dress code. We need more "distracting female clothing articles". :D

But from a teacher's standpoint, I can verywell see why a slight dress policy would be needed. I see no need for uniforms though.

hell no! no dress codes. we should be able to wear tee shirts that say f*** censorship! w00t! go no dress codes! Plus, they take out of who we really are. if you are the kind of person that would say f*** censorship, then let people beware!

BOC showed a guy in a baggy jeans smuggling automatic weapons, a load of hanguns and sawn off shotgun in his pants. Why dosen't he just carry them in a backpack?

hell no! no dress codes. we should be able to wear tee shirts that say f*** censorship! w00t! go no dress codes! Plus, they take out of who we really are. if you are the kind of person that would say f*** censorship, then let people beware!
But if someone is getting picked on for something as trivial as their clothing, then uniforms aren't a bad thing.

But if someone is getting picked on for something as trivial as their clothing, then uniforms aren't a bad thing.
Clothing is only an excuse, even if all the children looked alike, some would still get picked on and shunned. Uniforms are not only not a solution to this, they're not a solution to anything else.

Clothing is only an excuse, even if all the children looked alike, some would still get picked on and shunned. Uniforms are not only not a solution to this, they're not a solution to anything else.

Yes, that might be true, but at least a poor kid wouldn't have to worry about people making fun of them for what they were wearing. They might be shunned for other things, but at least uniforms would take a little weight off of their shoulders. Maybe if people wore uniforms everyone would focus more on personality instead of appearence.

Yes, that might be true, but at least a poor kid wouldn't have to worry about people making fun of them for what they were wearing. They might be shunned for other things, but at least uniforms would take a little weight off of their shoulders. Maybe if people wore uniforms everyone would focus more on personality instead of appearence.
And if a person as a repulsive personanility, then it is fair grounds on which to shun them.

Yes, that might be true, but at least a poor kid wouldn't have to worry about people making fun of them for what they were wearing. They might be shunned for other things, but at least uniforms would take a little weight off of their shoulders. Maybe if people wore uniforms everyone would focus more on personality instead of appearence.
But there's so much variety even among uniforms - I don't know what exactly kids do, but some can manage to make uniforms look gorgeous and some can manage to still look like a dump. I mean, it's a nice thought: "maybe children will be nicer to each other now"... but it just doesn't really work out. There's always going to be cruelty and teasing no matter what... I'm pretty sure my middle-school life would have been hell even if everyone was wearing uniforms.

Personally I'm for uniforms.
Every student wears the exact same thing. No variation. Wore them from 12 to 22.
At work I wear a uniform as well (suit)
The education establishment is a place to learn and grow, not a place to show of your latest nikes.

count yourselves lucky. I live in England have had to wear school uniform since i was 4. At the moment this consists fo a blouse, bottle green sweatshirt and green tartan skirt of a certain length.

As stated before, I'm staunchly for uniforms. Having gone to schools with and without them, I must say that the schools with them were generally much, much nicer.

Plus, if you didn't read it before, high schoolers are idiots :p. Seriously, most college girls dress more conservative then them! I mean, I might be alone here, but...any slut can flash skin. A true lady is sexy while wearing something nice ;)

And if a person as a repulsive personanility, then it is fair grounds on which to shun them.

Exactly!

I attended a school that had something of a dress code but no such thing as a uniform. People behaved like idiots a lot of the time, but no one gave anyone else crap for what shoes they were wearing. The only time people got crap was if they wore a logo of an unpopular sports team, and even then it was hardly resembling harassment. This is why I oppose the idea of school uniforms - very often they can cause even more harm than good. Besides, a lot of jobs don't require uniforms, even if they do have something of a dress code; I imagine a good number of office workers can go to work in, say, a polo shirt and a pair of khakis and not look unprofessional. (I work at a call center, and people wear shorts and T-shirts there and our customers wouldn't know the difference...very few people dress remotely nice. I look overdressed in said polo shirt and khakis.)

This is not to say that if I had a kid, I would let them wear whatever they pleased to school. Oh hell no. My kids will wear the least provocative attire I can find, and if I have to send my daughter to school in a burka, I'll do it. OK, maybe not a burka, but something guaranteed to keep guys from taking second looks at her. Then again, I am 21, extremely protective, known to threaten people's lives for even jokingly making a pass at my girlfriend, and thankfully don't have kids.