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Ok I'm excited! Finally, my dream of watching digitally restored Star Wars will come true. Or maybe it's because vcrs are evil. But either way....

Ok i've heard that Lucas has made some changes to the orginal: boba fett's voice is now jango fett's, lloyd will appear as anikan skywalker ghost in Return of the Jedi. There more.

Ok looking at the recent star wars movies, maybe lucas should just leave the classics alone?

Digitally restored for the second time.

And I hope for the love of any god that might be out there that he did not change anything else in that movie.

I can't wait. I love the Star Wars movies. I have the entire New Jedi Order book series as well.

Can you really call it the classic trilogy when it's been altered like it has?

Rogue Squadron, RS II: Rogue Leader, and RS III: Rebel Strike are the best Star Wars games

Rogue Squadron, RS II: Rogue Leader, and RS III: Rebel Strike are the best Star Wars games
Incorrect.

Super Empire Strikes Back is the best Star Wars Game.

In the weirdest comprimise ever, now Han and Gredo shoot at the same time.

Give me classic Star Wars, the effects where still good and I didn't have flinch at some of the wussing out. It's not all bad, mind you-but dammit, I want the movie I fell in love with at age six in the movie theater.

But.....sigh......I'll still buy this set........bastard.......

All the Blasters have been replaced with walkie-talkies

From the reviews I've read Lucas made alot of "minor" updates to the films. Some reviewers called it a total revamping, while others call it a worthwile wait. I for one am getting the DVD trilogy because I did the Blockbuster 7 week movie prepaid rental card.

I have heard rumors that he added visible thrusters to the Tie-fighters. Keep in mind that these are rumors and not verified. The reviewing site do say lots of other surprizes, so we'll see.

I have heard rumors that he added visible thrusters to the Tie-fighters.
I could see them just fine.
:confused:

Why on EARTH does Lucas feel the Holy Trilogy needs "updating" again? What was wrong with it before? Do we really need the trilogy, the digitally-remastered trilogy, and the digitally-re-remastered trilogy?

Although I love the Star Wars original (non-prequel) trilogy, I do not intend to buy the DVDs. My view is either the theatrical cuts, or it's not worth my time. I certainly would not object to a release of both the theatrical cuts and new versions, however (I might even buy both). I recommend www.originaltrilogy.com to anyone who would like to ever see the theatrical cuts on DVD. Please sign the petition.

Why on EARTH does Lucas feel the Holy Trilogy needs "updating" again? What was wrong with it before? Do we really need the trilogy, the digitally-remastered trilogy, and the digitally-re-remastered trilogy?

:D My feelings exactly.

Why on EARTH does Lucas feel the Holy Trilogy needs "updating" again? What was wrong with it before? Do we really need the trilogy, the digitally-remastered trilogy, and the digitally-re-remastered trilogy?
He defends it thus (I'm paraphrasing):

As an artist he has a right to determine how his art is presented and as the author has the right to continuely work on that art as he sees fit.

Now while in principle I agree with him, there are weights to that. He's not wrong, it is only recently that film has been considered an alterable product, but it's not unprecidented. Playwrights change thier work throughout their lifetimes, though not all or probably even most. Composers do it, and rock bands do it all the damn time.

However, as he alters that art he has to also accept that it alters how that art is recieved. I, as the audience, can equally be less moved by a Gredo that fires first or even at the same time than I was by the transition of a character to the kind of scoundrel(sp) who would shoot someone under a table to a hero. It is his right as an artist to change that, but as an audience member I am in my right to find that change less satisfying.

Why on EARTH does Lucas feel the Holy Trilogy needs "updating" again? What was wrong with it before? Do we really need the trilogy, the digitally-remastered trilogy, and the digitally-re-remastered trilogy?

George Lucas is an idiotic, revisionist bastard, is why.

They dubbed-over Boba Fett's voice in the trilogy with the actor who portrayed Jango Fett.

I'm pissed.

Why on EARTH does Lucas feel the Holy Trilogy needs "updating" again? What was wrong with it before? Do we really need the trilogy, the digitally-remastered trilogy, and the digitally-re-remastered trilogy?
Actually that would be the trilogy, followed by the digitally re-mastered version, followed by the special edition, followed by this filth. I almost forgot about the special edition. And I so much wanted to forget about it. :(

But the digitally re-mastered version didn't add anything to it, except for maybe the directors commentary, so I guess that doesn't count.

I want the movie I fell in love with at age six in the movie theater.

Hmmmm, good point, altough the changes could, I stress the word COULD, be an improvement. Oh and on the same day as the trilogy comes out, Star Wars Battlefront is being released to! Sounds like a marketing scheme......

They dubbed-over Boba Fett's voice in the trilogy with the actor who portrayed Jango Fett.

I'm pissed.
Holy crap, I actually agree with G Dubyah on something! ;)

Digitally restored for the second time.


I assume that the irony of using the term 'restored' to mean 'changed from its original form' (ie. the opposite of what it actually means) has not escaped you here...

I am going to buy a copy, vomit on it, set it on fire, piss on the ashes, set the ashes on fire, put the still-flaming ashes in a blender, mix them with dog shit, and mail it to George Lucas.:)

I am going to buy a copy, vomit on it, set it on fire, piss on the ashes, set the ashes on fire, put the still-flaming ashes in a blender, mix them with dog shit, and mail it to George Lucas.:)
You, my friend, are a true American.

edit: And I meant that as a compliment, just to clarify.

You, my friend, are a true American.

It will totally be worth going to jail for all the laws that I'll likely break....

It will totally be worth going to jail for all the laws that I'll likely break....

All I can see is you destroying your own property and mailing it to someone. The only possible crime I see here is sending dogshit via US mail, and I'm guessing that's only a misdemeanor. However, you may consider an alternate method of shipping. UPS, FedEx, etc...

All I can see is you destroying your own property and mailing it to someone. The only possible crime I see here is sending dogshit via US mail, and I'm guessing that's only a misdemeanor. However, you may consider an alternate method of shipping. UPS, FedEx, etc...

I'm sure it must violate some law. That's half the fun....

They're Lucas' creations -- his and only his. He made them; he can change them. That said, I would have like to see him release the *originals* on DVD, as well......personally, I have no problem with them dubbing over the Stormtroopers' voices with Teumora Morrisson's voice because it fits the prequels (all of the Stormtroopers are clones of Jango Fett). Cleaning up Jabba for ANH is fine by me.....and adding Hayden Christensen to the end of ROTJ is fine by me.....

Me!

Ah heck, whatever George Lucas does to them, they will still just be fascist bullshit to me: the whole point of the central film (the original Star Wars) is that you can't trust science, and have to place your faith in a higher power which is poorly explained at best, and only described through gobbledigook which supports a class division between people. The act of turning off the targetting computer and 'using the force' is the act of extinguishing the light shone my science and embracing an ahistorical conservatism. The virginal farmboy with his incestuous desires is just another retelling of the Wagnerian texts that underlay and were used to validate the great social upheavels of Germany and (to a lesser extent) Italy and Spain in the 30s.

I am going to buy a copy, vomit on it, set it on fire, piss on the ashes, set the ashes on fire, put the still-flaming ashes in a blender, mix them with dog shit, and mail it to George Lucas.:)
You'd be better off doing all that to a pirated version--then at least you haven't rewarded Lucas by buying the damn thing. :D

Ok, appaerntly there are some "strong" feelings. As for the changes, we'll have to see how they turnout when the dvd comes out. But I'm still excited that the classic trilogy is coming out on dvd :D So far most of the changes I've heard about don't sound to major, and who knowes? They might improve the movie.

I hear Lucas has digitally edited Jar Jar Binks into episodes IV to VI...

...also included is an alternate ending to episode IV where an Ewok destroys the Death Star...

Ah heck, whatever George Lucas does to them, they will still just be fascist bullshit to me: the whole point of the central film (the original Star Wars) is that you can't trust science, and have to place your faith in a higher power which is poorly explained at best, and only described through gobbledigook which supports a class division between people. The act of turning off the targetting computer and 'using the force' is the act of extinguishing the light shone my science and embracing an ahistorical conservatism. The virginal farmboy with his incestuous desires is just another retelling of the Wagnerian texts that underlay and were used to validate the great social upheavels of Germany and (to a lesser extent) Italy and Spain in the 30s.
Have you seen a phycatrist recently?

I hear Lucas has digitally edited Jar Jar Binks into episodes IV to VI...

...also included is an alternate ending to episode IV where an Ewok destroys the Death Star...
:cries:

that sir would cause me to stab someone.

Have you seen a phycatrist recently?

Ah, that's what I like to see ad hominem attacks in the place of reasoned rebuttal of my arguments: anyone care to actually point out a damning flaw in my rant above?

I probably won't care about the majority of the changes made in the new DVD set..But if they actually altered Sebastion Shaw's face to look like Hayden, I will cry like a little girl. :(

Ah heck, whatever George Lucas does to them, they will still just be fascist bullshit to me: the whole point of the central film (the original Star Wars) is that you can't trust science, and have to place your faith in a higher power which is poorly explained at best, and only described through gobbledigook which supports a class division between people. The act of turning off the targetting computer and 'using the force' is the act of extinguishing the light shone my science and embracing an ahistorical conservatism. The virginal farmboy with his incestuous desires is just another retelling of the Wagnerian texts that underlay and were used to validate the great social upheavels of Germany and (to a lesser extent) Italy and Spain in the 30s.

Why would you want to trust science? If science as we know it is absolutely correct, we are just collections of biomolecules following laws of physics. I do agree that the Jedi are too much like übermenschen, though.

I find it amusing that people are so up in arms over changes made to a movie. It's not like Lucas is rewriting history ... he's just adding a few strokes of paint to his canvass.

It's a movie. Star Wars is not a true story or based on history. It is a work of fiction .... science fiction. It is a space opera. It is farce.

He's not rewriting an academic text which will teach our children that the Southern US won the Civil War ... he's altering a movie .... HIS movie.

Ok then ... carry on.

Noone went back to the old classic 40s + 50s movies and "digitally restored" them for another fuckin load of cash.

I find it amusing that you have so many stong feelings about the movies, after all they are just movies. Even if they are the best series ever.