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I'm just curious what the majority is on NS. I'm not trying to be racist here, okay?

White

White, throwing in some Native American blood in there too.

I am Cuban B

White.

Coördinator. Actually, I don't believe in race.

Human

I don't believe in race.

Only a White liberal hippie would spew that piece of crap.

Homo Sapian.

But there are some that would argue that!

Half Crab, Half Cake, Half Eggplant

Only a White liberal hippie would spew that piece of crap.

You forgot tree hugger.

Mutt.

Italian/Russian

Ewok

Only a White liberal hippie would spew that piece of crap.
Only a troll would spew etc.

Eh, there won't be any white people left anyway. Soon, the hispanic shall rule and croquettas shall fill the earth as the people dance the zumba! I mean salsa!

Only a White liberal hippie would spew that piece of crap.
I've said that before and was serious about it. And I am anything but those above listed characteristics.

I ran the 200 in Middle School.

Only a White liberal hippie would spew that piece of crap.

I'm an anarchist, not a liberal.

I ran the 200 in Middle School.
I once raced against the person who was believed to be the fastest person in my grade. We raced the length of the schoolyard and I barely beat her but I still won. She tried to pull the “you cheated” card. Hey, it’s not my fault that I have an above normal reaction time.

I'm an anarchist, not a liberal.

Letila, check your telegrams. Congratulations!

I'm an anarchist, not a liberal.

anarchists aren't exactly conservatives. Whatever. I'm a white, liberal, tree hugger. I'm also quite fond of geneology, so no, we would not "spew" that perfectly acceptable and admirable philosophy, necessarily. I don't beleive race MATTERS by any means...but whatever. I'm ethnically british, with welsh and scottish mixed in. Though I have more respect for my one native american ancestor than any 20 of the others. historically, we white people have been assholes. *makes up for it by being liberal tree hugger*

Eh, there won't be any white people left anyway. Soon, the hispanic shall rule and croquettas shall fill the earth as the people dance the zumba! I mean salsa!
noooo island this will NEVER happen
we will suddenly redefine hispanic as "white" and the white race will be the majority again
well except for black hispanics and MAYBE those who have just too much native american blood to "pass"

after all there was a time when southern europeans were not considered "white". it seems rather fantastic now but italians and greeks (and others) were not thought of as "white" at the turn of the last century.

if you take a look around, the hispanics who arent black or native american dont look much different from italians or greeks. (not to mention those with blond hair and blue eyes)

Half Crab, Half Cake, Half Eggplantim 7.3% Black, and im 96.9% white :D

anarchists aren't exactly conservatives.

No he was saying that he was just anarchist, not anarchist as the alternative to liberal which would be conservatism.

Human. As such, I would like to welcome the Ewoks, Eggplants etc....

More precisely?
Mostly white, but with Hispanic, Aboriginal & Semetic within a few generations, and Negro and Asian a bit further back.
I doubt there's anyone on the planet I'm not vaguely related to.

Homo sapiens sapiens

Homo Sapiens Sapiens
Actually if you want to do it correctly that would be Homo sapiens sapiens. With the little s and in italics.

woohoo! 1 of 2... that makes me elite... or almost extinct...

9...

9 posts of smartassedness...
7 posts actually answering the question...

Why do forums inspire smartassedness?

For every straightforward question there are more people trying to be funny (or clever, witty, overscrutinizing, pseudointellectual etc.).

I mean wow... What do you people think when you decide to post something like that?

"Man, I'm clever, I'll post I'm an Ewok! That'll make me look like such a humorous person..."

or

"Man, I'm clever. I think I'll say I'm human... People will think I'm so smart."


Okay to be honest I'm guilty of smartassedness too. But the question remains is why? Why do forums inspire this reaction?


Oh and I'm white btw.

7/8 caucasian, and 1/8 amerindian

I'm just curious what the majority is on NS. I'm not trying to be racist here, okay?

Note that none of your options are races, but ethnicities. (Race being a biological catagory and ethnicity being a cultural one. Only one race of H. sapien is currently in existance - H. sapiens sapiens.)

Bad idea...poll should have let you check more than one option.

White, Pacific Islander, Asian, among other things...

I don't believe in race.Only a White liberal hippie would spew that piece of crap.

Wrong. Try this (http://www.aaanet.org/stmts/racepp.htm) on for size.

German, French, Irish and Welsh...In otherwords, an American mutt ;)

The only and only Asian around.

Maybe cuz they're still asleep on this beautiful Saturday morning.

I'm a mix of Celtic, English, Greek and Turkish...

According to most forms I fill out, I'm a 'European New Zealander'

I'm very White (ask anyone who actually knows what I look like ;)). North European.

What is your race?
The race to beat the grim reaper.

The 5k Swamp Stomp. :D

Robot.

100m freestyle.

Al Sharpton.

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9 posts of smartassedness...
7 posts actually answering the question...

Why do forums inspire smartassedness?

For every straightforward question there are more people trying to be funny (or clever, witty, overscrutinizing, pseudointellectual etc.).

I mean wow... What do you people think when you decide to post something like that?

"Man, I'm clever, I'll post I'm an Ewok! That'll make me look like such a humorous person..."

or

"Man, I'm clever. I think I'll say I'm human... People will think I'm so smart."


Okay to be honest I'm guilty of smartassedness too. But the question remains is why? Why do forums inspire this reaction?


Oh and I'm white btw.

Because most of us have a sense of humor. Not saying you don't.

He's right, saying "I'm don't believe in race" will spark the same hippie debate over nothing while saying "I'm Ewok" should get your ass kicked.

WHere is the non human?

WHere is the non human?

Be Quiet.

Because most of us have a sense of humor. Not saying you don't.
Well maybe its too much humor. I personally am getting sick and tired of finding hundreds upon hundreds of people trying to be funny.

Jordanian-Palestinian

Well maybe its too much humor. I personally am getting sick and tired of finding hundreds upon hundreds of people trying to be funny.

Better to try and fail than never to try.

Unless you're a stuntman.

Better to try and fail than never to try.

Unless you're a stuntman.
Thats the point... a lot of people fail...

And its just getting pathetic...

European, and white. Don't see what all the fuzz is about..

Bad comedy is just the price you pay for the free exchange of information.

That and penis-enlargement ads.

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9 posts of smartassedness...
7 posts actually answering the question...

Why do forums inspire smartassedness?

For every straightforward question there are more people trying to be funny (or clever, witty, overscrutinizing, pseudointellectual etc.).

I mean wow... What do you people think when you decide to post something like that?

What was I thinking? Something along the lines of 'what a stupid question, all humans belong to the same race, skin colour is relative anyway' (Europeans/Americans looking at me will say I'm white, aborigines recognise me as aborigine - because different cultures look for different things. That's minor. The guy who wrote 'Roots' went to Africa trying to find his relatives there - and succeeded. When he headed to the region where his family came from, everyone came out to see 'the white man' - pitch black themselves, they didn't see a difference between his brown skin and that of a tanned European).

So in short - we laugh at the question because it's laughable. The humor is infantile because the question is infantile. Joking at the question is politer and more productive than being abusive, so jokes are the way to go.

Okay, the poll shows exactly what I suspected in the first place.

Sino-Malaysian!

Pure English

White.

Eh.... white yet Jewish?
Semite?
...
something?
I'm definitely something, for sure.

What was I thinking? Something along the lines of 'what a stupid question, all humans belong to the same race, skin colour is relative anyway' (Europeans/Americans looking at me will say I'm white, aborigines recognise me as aborigine - because different cultures look for different things. That's minor. The guy who wrote 'Roots' went to Africa trying to find his relatives there - and succeeded. When he headed to the region where his family came from, everyone came out to see 'the white man' - pitch black themselves, they didn't see a difference between his brown skin and that of a tanned European).

So in short - we laugh at the question because it's laughable. The humor is infantile because the question is infantile. Joking at the question is politer and more productive than being abusive, so jokes are the way to go.
Thats called over-focusing on the technicalities, so you don't have to answer the question. You know damn well what he meant. And oh no he said race and not the political correct "ethnicity" or would you prefer culture!

Race is a commonly accepted synonym for ethnicity.

How is the question infantile? How is it laughable? Maybe your atitude, treating this question as such, is infantile and laughable. I wonder if your scrutinizing correctness is the same for the perversion of scientific facts. I wonder if you ask some people where they got the statistic they start quoting? And obviously you request the piles and piles of research and the paper he had published when someone says he has a theory. I do wonder if your brand of correctness applies to something more than the political sphere.

I'm Caucasin but I like to say i'm four parts. 1/4 German, 1/4 Swedish,1/4 American, and 1/4 total nutcase :D

Italian-Greek-Portugues

If you think saying I was an Ewok was bad on the "What religion are you" thread I said I was "Jedi, baby!"

Although I seem 'unhelpful' in my posts I answered the polls truthfully. White and Catholic.

So chill out. I didn't spoil your poll. :D

If you want specifics: Scottish, French and a tiny bit of Irish.

I'm Caucasin but I like to say i'm four parts. 1/4 German, 1/4 Swedish,1/4 American, and 1/4 total nutcase :D

Some people would think that those last two are the same thing. :) (Not me of course.)

If you think saying I was an Ewok was bad on the "What religion are you" thread I said I was "Jedi, baby!"

Although I seem 'unhelpful' in my posts I answered the polls truthfully. White and Catholic.

So chill out. I didn't spoil your poll. :D

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I assume you mean me...
It's not my poll... I'm just saying...
People tend ot avoid answering the question.

im a pie

Wow, only three blacks?

GIANT SPACE ANTS!

"The spacecraft has apparently been taken over - "conqured" if you will - by a master race of giant space ants. It's difficult to tell from this vantage point whether they will consume the captive earth men or merely enslave them. One thing is for certain: there is no stopping them; the ants will soon be here. And I for one welcome our new insect overlords. I'd like to remind them that as a trusted TV personality I could be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves." - Kent Brockman

European mutt with a little bit of native american thrown in.


Okay to be honest I'm guilty of smartassedness too. But the question remains is why? Why do forums inspire this reaction?

Why do forums inspire people to offer a critique of other peoples' posting habits?

My race is the pocono 500. No wait, when that happens everyone who actually lives in my area makes a point of staying home. I hate racing anyway. I fail to see the excitement in watching a bunch of cars (or horses or whatever) flying around the track. Maybe if accidents happened a little more often, but thats not nice of a thing to hope for.


White: 1/4 irish (the only thing that i could conveniently measure), basically everything in the UK, german, dutch, other things, but not french or scandinavian or any of the eastern or southern european ones (oh wait, a tad bit polish maybe)...

Thats called over-focusing on the technicalities, so you don't have to answer the question. You know damn well what he meant.
Oh really? So what is it self-evident that he meant?
I gave a detailed answer of my background. Any answer I gave to that poll would be wrong. The "technicalities" as you call them render the question meaningless.


How is the question infantile? How is it laughable?
The basic assumptions are (1) that we're all purebreeds.
(2)That your beliefs, outlook etc are based on colour, rather than socialisation, history or even (shock horror) thinking for yourself and
(3) everyone lives in a ghetto, and refuses to interact with anyone even slightly different from themselves.
These are acceptable in a 4 year old, and tolerable in a 6 year old. Not in someone older.

What makes a race? Melanin?

I'm an eastern european Jew who's generally suspicious of "racial" categories. Sometimes I put "white" on forms, sometimes "other".

I certainly don't identify with being "white", per se, particularly given the connotations with which that description is often used.

Shit, we are so white here.

I tought that there were much more other races here.
Frustrates me a bit to see that poll.

Shit, we are so white here.

I tought that there were much more other races here.
Frustrates me a bit to see that poll.Is "white" a race?

White--

White is going to lead its more prosperous than the others (not intended as flamebait, its just a fact)

Oh really? So what is it self-evident that he meant?
I gave a detailed answer of my background. Any answer I gave to that poll would be wrong. The "technicalities" as you call them render the question meaningless.


The basic assumptions are (1) that we're all purebreeds.
(2)That your beliefs, outlook etc are based on colour, rather than socialisation, history or even (shock horror) thinking for yourself and
(3) everyone lives in a ghetto, and refuses to interact with anyone even slightly different from themselves.
These are acceptable in a 4 year old, and tolerable in a 6 year old. Not in someone older.
Well then a whole lot of people have the mentality of four year olds!

Like I said race = ethnicity in context.

It has nothing to do with biology of species. It has everything to do with culture! There are a lot of different cultures and they like everything in the civilized world have to be grouped together for obvious feasibility issues. It's just not rational to put every country and region as an option in the poll... There are ten poll choices maximum. Thus the different cultures have to be compunded into similar categories. Thats what the person who started this poll asked. He didn't ask what species are you? He didn't ask if you're human, because it is obvious you are human.

This whole everybody is equal thing is really being pushed to far by liberals. There are obvious distinctions between say an asian a white and a black. There I said it! Oh no.

Look at the different types of dogs. Is a sheepdog the same as a greyhound? No! But look they still can interbreed, and when someone asks what kind of dog you have do you say "I don't believe in breeds. It's just a dog."

It's the same with the human race.

Thats called over-focusing on the technicalities, so you don't have to answer the question. You know damn well what he meant. And oh no he said race and not the political correct "ethnicity" or would you prefer culture!

Race is a commonly accepted synonym for ethnicity.

How is the question infantile? How is it laughable? Maybe your atitude, treating this question as such, is infantile and laughable. I wonder if your scrutinizing correctness is the same for the perversion of scientific facts. I wonder if you ask some people where they got the statistic they start quoting? And obviously you request the piles and piles of research and the paper he had published when someone says he has a theory. I do wonder if your brand of correctness applies to something more than the political sphere.

Race is not a synonym for ethnicity, and ethnicity is not a politically correct term for race. Race has it's roots in a mis-percieved biological difference, which was used to justify slavery and mass murder. Ethnicity is based on cultural differences. It is a much more accurate and useful means of catagorizing peoples for scientific and political purposes.



Today scholars in many fields argue that "race" as it is understood in the United States of America was a social mechanism invented during the 18th century to refer to those populations brought together in colonial America: the English and other European settlers, the conquered Indian peoples, and those peoples of Africa brought in to provide slave labor.

From its inception, this modern concept of "race" was modeled after an ancient theorem of the Great Chain of Being, which posited natural categories on a hierarchy established by God or nature. Thus "race" was a mode of classification linked specifically to peoples in the colonial situation. It subsumed a growing ideology of inequality devised to rationalize European attitudes and treatment of the conquered and enslaved peoples. Proponents of slavery in particular during the 19th century used "race" to justify the retention of slavery. The ideology magnified the differences among Europeans, Africans, and Indians, established a rigid hierarchy of socially exclusive categories underscored and bolstered unequal rank and status differences, and provided the rationalization that the inequality was natural or God-given. The different physical traits of African-Americans and Indians became markers or symbols of their status differences.
(http://www.aaanet.org/stmts/racepp.htm)

Yet ultimately, the effective elimination of discrimination will require an end to such categorization, and a transition toward social and cultural categories that will prove more scientifically useful and personally resonant for the public than are categories of "race." Redress of the past and transition for the future can be simultaneously effected. (http://www.aaanet.org/gvt/ombsumm.htm)

Is "white" a race?

No, it is not.

Well usually, I don't refer to my "race" when describing myself to people who can't see me. In fact, I don't bring up race in a serious context usually. Basically, I just say i'm a Canadian first and foremost. Being Afro-Canadian means nothing, other then, it's just a name.

Shit, we are so white here.

I tought that there were much more other races here.
Frustrates me a bit to see that poll.

Frustrates you? Why, exactly?

Race is not a synonym for ethnicity, and ethnicity is not a politically correct term for race. Race has it's roots in a mis-percieved biological difference, which was used to justify slavery and mass murder. Ethnicity is based on cultural differences. It is a much more accurate and useful means of catagorizing peoples for scientific and political purposes.



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The point on the matter is, that this whole matter is still debated. And since the debate continues, the whole race thing continues to be widely accepted. Now I can easily find plenty of articles from scholars who would say... no, race is a valid type of classification. But frankly I don't want to start a whole arguement in this thread. This thread asks a simple question and I don't think people should subvert it by saying its not a valid question when that is debatable. If you don't like the question, don't answer it.

Now personally, I myself am not partial to this question, and don't enjoy having that on many applications of sorts, but here I am simply defending the author of this thread's right to get some infomration without having to scroll down a whole bunch of inane posts about ewoks or eggplants or people who say I refuse to choose between those options because I don't believe in race.

It's like going into a thread and saying "I refuse to answer this question."

I simply ask:
Why not just a separate thread on that if you feel so strongly about it?

The point on the matter is, that this whole matter is still debated. And since the debate continues, the whole race thing continues to be widely accepted. Now I can easily find plenty of articles from scholars who would say... no, race is a valid type of classification. But frankly I don't want to start a whole arguement in this thread. This thread asks a simple question and I don't think people should subvert it by saying its not a valid question when that is debatable. If you don't like the question, don't answer it.

Now personally, I myself am not partial to this question, and don't enjoy having that on many applications of sorts, but here I am simply defending the author of this thread's right to get some infomration without having to scroll down a whole bunch of inane posts about ewoks or eggplants or people who say I refuse to choose between those options because I don't believe in race.

It's like going into a thread and saying "I refuse to answer this question."

I simply ask:
Why not just a separate thread on that if you feel so strongly about it?


Actually I did a thread not too long ago asking for anyone to demonstrate that a scientifically valid biological distinction of races actually existed. No one could present any evidence of that. Not. One. Single. Bit. Of. Valid. Scientific. Evidence. (There was lots of invalid non-scientific and discredited evidence, but nothing scientifically valid to discredit the AAA claims I have posted here.) The continued belife in this discredited idea does a great deal of social, intellectual, educational, political, and economic damage to the general populace.

I'm a banana. Yellow Asian on the outside, white on the inside.

I am a member of the human race. I know there used to be other hominoid races but I thought that Homo sapiens wiped them all out!

I am a member of the human race. I know there used to be other hominoid races but I thought that Homo sapiens wiped them all out!

There is actually some debate over the classification of H. sapiens neanderthal and other possible races, but basically correct.

There is actually some debate over the classification of H. sapiens neanderthal and other possible races, but basically correct.
I agree, there is speculation that Homo sapiens interbred with Neanderthal species, which may account for the possibility that humanity can both be extremely violent (Homo Sapiens) and peace loving (Neanderthal)

I agree, there is speculation that Homo sapiens interbred with Neanderthal species, which may account for the possibility that humanity can both be extremely violent (Homo Sapiens) and peace loving (Neanderthal)

Actually the debate is over whether they interbreed freely (making them the same speicies), didn't interebreed due to geographical constraints (splitinng them into H. sapiens sapiens and H. sapiens neandethal), or didn't naturally interbreed at all (making them H. sapiens and H. neanderthal). ;)

Well, if it came to a fight, us of Bristish blood would win hands down. I hate this colour skin. It's so vile. I wish I was African. My friend who's 1/3 Japanese, British and Polynesian reckons white's a cool colour, but I doubt she's ever sober enough to see us.

Chrisi

Actually the debate is over whether they interbreed freely (making them the same speicies), didn't interebreed due to geographical constraints (splitinng them into H. sapiens sapiens and H. sapiens neandethal), or didn't naturally interbreed at all (making them H. sapiens and H. neanderthal). ;)

I think there are other suggestions, such as that Homo sapiens wiped out the Neanderthal species because they could not compete with the innately violent Homo Sapiens, or did indeed interbreed with them. This is a distinct possibility, especially as Homo Sapiens were in much larger numbers, so swamped the gene pool.

I prefer the latter and would like to think there is a little bit of Neanderthal in all of us.

human race

Celt.

I think there are other suggestions, such as that Homo sapiens wiped out the Neanderthal species because they could not compete with the innately violent Homo Sapiens, or did indeed interbreed with them. This is a distinct possibility, especially as Homo Sapiens were in much larger numbers, so swamped the gene pool.

I prefer the latter and would like to think there is a little bit of Neanderthal in all of us.

That's one of the possibilities. However, interbreeding would mean that H. sapiens couldn't be divided into the races sapiens and neanderthal, much less differing species. (As I said before.)

Indian.

edited out stuff which might not have been recognised as sarcasm.

That's one of the possibilities. However, interbreeding would mean that H. sapiens couldn't be divided into the races sapiens and neanderthal, much less differing species. (As I said before.)
The point is, that both those human species were still genetically close to allow for interbreeding... and as I said before Homo sapiens probably swamped the gene pool. As well as that, it's likely that Neanderthals were killed of as a separate species by Homo sapiens, who were bigger, smarter and more violent.

The point is, that both those human species were still genetically close to allow for interbreeding... and as I said before Homo sapiens probably swamped the gene pool. As well as that, it's likely that Neanderthals were killed of as a separate species by Homo sapiens, who were bigger, smarter and more violent.

Sorry, but you are still confusing race and species. Biologically, the definition of species and race depends on interbreeding. If neanderthals were "killed of as a separate species by Homo sapiens" they wouldn't have been interbreeding. Separate species don't interbreed. That's the basic definition of species. Races can interbreed, but don't (or very rarely do) due to geographic isolation.

I'm just curious what the majority is on NS. I'm not trying to be racist here, okay?
The human race is my race.

3/8 dead and Irish you bastard.

Sorry, but you are still confusing race and species. Biologically, the definition of species and race depends on interbreeding. If neanderthals were "killed of as a separate species by Homo sapiens" they wouldn't have been interbreeding. Separate species don't interbreed. That's the basic definition of species. Races can interbreed, but don't (or very rarely do) due to geographic isolation.

Actually, I think it's you who are confused. While it's true that not all different species/races within the same genus can interbreed, it's also true that some can. The fact that there is no discernable "species" or "race" of Neanderthals is due to the success of the Homo Sapiens swamping them both genetically and killing them off by "superior" abilities (by that I mean violence).

Today, there is only one intelligent race/species, which is Homo Sapiens, all sharing the same genetic inheritance, there are no other races of humanity which is now different from us.

Only a White liberal hippie would spew that piece of crap.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=358707&page=1&pp=15

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Oh, the human race, I left that one out. You are all so clever for answering that way, even though you probably knew what I meant. :rolleyes:

Sorry, but you are still confusing race and species. Biologically, the definition of species and race depends on interbreeding. If neanderthals were "killed of as a separate species by Homo sapiens" they wouldn't have been interbreeding. Separate species don't interbreed. That's the basic definition of species. Races can interbreed, but don't (or very rarely do) due to geographic isolation.
I found an interesting article which actually supports both of our positions. You may like to read it.......

http://www.see.org/e-ct-2.htm#223

Use the right terminology next time then, unless you're secretingly following an agenda of propugating sympathy for your trailer park white supremist friends ... *shifty eyes*... is that you, Enodscopia?

Note that none of your options are races, but ethnicities. (Race being a biological catagory and ethnicity being a cultural one. Only one race of H. sapien is currently in existance - H. sapiens sapiens.)

Homo sapiens sapiens isn't a race its a sub species of Homo sapiens. Like one considers (the most accepted theory) that Homo sapiens neanderthalensis is also a subspecies of the species Homo sapiens.

Like for instance a ferret (Mustella putorius domesticus) and a polecat (Mustella putorius putorius) are both subspecies of the species Mustella putorius.

Race is something genetical, but within the same subspecies or species. It concerns the looks, the hair, the eyes, height, ... Adaptations to a different environment, maybe the start of a new subspecies, but not yet.
Just like dogs, all races of dogs are "Canis lupus familiaris", the wolf of wich they evolved from is Canis lupus lupus. Then you have the Dingo too, Canis lupus dingo and a whole lot more of subspecies, like Canis lupus baileyi and Canis lupus halstromi. You've got different races of horses, rabbits, ...

Some subspecies can evolve that far that they aren't able to have young together or that their offspring isn't fertile anymore.

Anyhow what I'm saying here is that there is a difference between subspecies and race. :D

The point is, that both those human species were still genetically close to allow for interbreeding... and as I said before Homo sapiens probably swamped the gene pool. As well as that, it's likely that Neanderthals were killed of as a separate species by Homo sapiens, who were bigger, smarter and more violent.

Research on brain volume has shown that the Neanderthal had at least an equal amount of brain as the H. sapiens sapiens. They were also more robust and had stronger muscles then H. sapiens sapiens. They were better adapted to cold and harsh conditions too. Being smaller (less bodyheat loss) and having a fleshy nose (also perserving heat) was very benificial when living during the last Ice age. Anyhow they died out after the last Ice Age and there are plenty of theories on how they died out.

evey1 is white here because only whits can afford a comp ;)

evey1 is white here because only whits can afford a comp ;)

Maybe, only whites are concerned about race? :D anyhow I'm caucasian, blue eyes, but no blond or copper hair.

I am "White" meaning Caucasoid or whatever...Italian, German, English, Irish, Scottish, French.......also some Native American so I guess that makes me a mestizo rather than a Caucasian.

By the way, Hispanic isnt a race. It's a linguistic/cultural tie. Hispanics from Mexico tend to be mestizo.....usually looking more Indian than Caucasian, though there are Caucasians and pure Indians among them. In Cuba and the Dominican Republic, the people tend to be either White, Black, or Mulatto. In Puerto Rico, there are Whites, Indians, Blacks, and any combination thereof. In Argentina and Uruguay, and Costa Rica and some other Central American countries the population tends to be White. However, when the immigrants move to the US, the people tend to unite under their language, and will form a majority this way eventually.

Research on brain volume has shown that the Neanderthal had at least an equal amount of brain as the H. sapiens sapiens. They were also more robust and had stronger muscles then H. sapiens sapiens. They were better adapted to cold and harsh conditions too. Being smaller (less bodyheat loss) and having a fleshy nose (also perserving heat) was very benificial when living during the last Ice age. Anyhow they died out after the last Ice Age and there are plenty of theories on how they died out.

Except that Neanderthal genes may still be part of our present gene pool.

Well, if it came to a fight, us of Bristish blood would win hands down. I hate this colour skin. It's so vile. I wish I was African. My friend who's 1/3 Japanese, British and Polynesian reckons white's a cool colour, but I doubt she's ever sober enough to see us.

Chrisi

British blood? What do you mean? The only direct relatives of the ancient Britons are the Welsh, Cornish, and Bretons from Brittany, France. Do you mean English blood? God I'm tired of English hijacking the term British for themselves.....you are British in the sense that you are from Britain, but you are English and you have English blood, if there is such a thing.....

I'm Caucasin but I like to say i'm four parts. 1/4 German, 1/4 Swedish,1/4 American, and 1/4 total nutcase :D
You can't be 1/4 "American" unless your Native American.....American isn't an ethnicity, its a nationality. I don't know where ur from, but Europeans who have American parentage tend to list their race/ethnicity as American....which is stupid....Americans are descended of wherever their ancestors came from, which is usually English, and whatever they mixed with.

Well, if it came to a fight, us of Bristish blood would win hands down. I hate this colour skin. It's so vile. I wish I was African. My friend who's 1/3 Japanese, British and Polynesian reckons white's a cool colour, but I doubt she's ever sober enough to see us.

Chrisi
You stupid wench. Don't you ever be proud that you're from England. You drove out the welsh and you've suppressed the scottish and Irish to long.

All the Black n Tans are burning in hell.
The Black n Tans are a group of soldiers used by the English during the Irish War of Independence. They burned and killed indiscrimanately.

Except that Neanderthal genes may still be part of our present gene pool.

Some scientists claim to have proof that offspring of a H. sapiens sapiens and a Neanderthal was infertile or just wasn't possible. They did intensive genetic tests. But then again, can we be a 100% sure?

Its a bit like crossing a donkey and a horse, you get a Mule or a Hinny, and they can't breed, they are infertile. You have the same thing with certain species of toads. Their offspring is infertile. Nature is a beautiful thing isn't it?

You stupid wench. Don't you ever be proud that you're from England. You drove out the welsh and you've suppressed the scottish and Irish to long.

All the Black n Tans are burning in hell.
The Black n Tans are a group of soldiers used by the English during the Irish War of Independence. They burned and killed indiscrimanately.

That is war...has got nothing to do with skin color. One kills in a war, they still do.

That is war...has got nothing to do with skin color. One kills in a war, they still do.
Uh, the indiscriminate killing of noncombatants is generally considered a war crime. You can't excuse wholesale slaughter by saying "that is war...people die, get over it".

I think there are other suggestions, such as that Homo sapiens wiped out the Neanderthal species because they could not compete with the innately violent Homo Sapiens, or did indeed interbreed with them. This is a distinct possibility, especially as Homo Sapiens were in much larger numbers, so swamped the gene pool.

I prefer the latter and would like to think there is a little bit of Neanderthal in all of us.

Or at least there is neanderthal in the europeans. I don't think neanderthals existed outside europe (or did they)?

Mutt...good dose of Chinese, with an equal drop of Welsh, English, and mix in some Mongol, French, and there ya've got me.

Uh, the indiscriminate killing of noncombatants is generally considered a war crime. You can't excuse wholesale slaughter by saying "that is war...people die, get over it".
But eventually this is war! Soldiers turning against civilians. Of course! Looting and such. It may be forbidden since, what after WWI?, but... man, you must be a real idealist if you believe civilian killings isn't part of every war. What do you think the US bombings are doing? Killing the three terrorists and avoiding the children and women walking amongst them? Bombs kill indiscriminately too.

Other: I'm a hawk in a human's body. :D

..Ok, I'm Caucasian, if you must know.

Coördinator. Actually, I don't believe in race.

It's not up to you to believe in it. It's true. Let's say you didn't believe in Thursday. I'm sure it would still happen.

British blood? What do you mean? The only direct relatives of the ancient Britons are the Welsh, Cornish, and Bretons from Brittany, France. Do you mean English blood? God I'm tired of English hijacking the term British for themselves.....you are British in the sense that you are from Britain, but you are English and you have English blood, if there is such a thing.....

As a british person (incidentally white with orange hair, which apparently makes me neanderthal http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3adc5573604d.htm ) I'm fucking sick of right wing morons telling me that my country is only for native anglo saxon britons.

Apart from the fact that britons, as pointed out by this person above, lived in eg Brittany (France) as well as britain, there isn't even such a thing as English blood. England is named after the Angles, who were blond, blue-eyed and germanic. The Anglo-Saxons were mixed Angles and Saxons (from Saxony, in Germany). There were enough romans left behind before the Angles and Saxons arrived for whatever Britons to be in fact Romano-Britains. Furthermore, we were then colonised by Vikings, and later by Normans (Vikings who had settled in France, and developed a different culture from the one Vikings had developed in Britain.)

The "briton" tribes were largely an admixture of celts (who came to britain from spain) and other tribes who were already there when the celts arrived. no doubt they got to britain during an ice age. All the countries of europe are like this more or less, mixed up racially. Which is yet another reason why racism makes no sense.

Celt.

hahaha

Atheistic humans of all colours are found in my empire and so the better!

General Octaf
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Americans are descended of wherever their ancestors came from, which is usually English, and whatever they mixed with.

it isn't usually english. people went to america from all over europe. there are swathes of the midwest where everyone is called Gundersson and speaks with a swedish chef accent

hahaha

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how are you celtic?

how are you celtic?

By racial heritage, mostly welsh and scottish. What's funny?

By racial heritage, mostly welsh and scottish. What's funny?

What about all the tribes that lived in Wales and Scotland before the Celts arrived? Aren't you descended from them? And how are celts racially different from them? And what about the Romans? And the AngloSaxons?
Not many of them made it scotland or wales, but some did. And a whole lot more of their descendants did, when the English (who were by then all of the above plus viking and norman) invaded. And then people from all over europe have come and settled all over britain for a few hundred years.

My point basically is the celts weren't a race. A language and culture makes a nation, not a race. And just because your ancestors were welsh, that doesn't make them celts, any more than if they were from Galveston Texas it would make them Karankawa Indians or whatever.

What about all the tribes that lived in Wales and Scotland before the Celts arrived? Aren't you descended from them? And how are celts racially different from them? My point basically is the celts weren't a race. A language and culture makes a nation, not a race.

A shared herditary grouping of phenotypical traits makes a race. And all races have experienced genetic influx.

celt

\Celt\, n. [L. Celtae, Gr. ?, ?, pl.: cf. W. Celtiad one that dwells in a covert, an inhabitant of the wood, a Celt, fr. celt covert, shelter, celu to hide.] One of an ancient race of people, who formerly inhabited a great part of Central and Western Europe, and whose descendants at the present day occupy Ireland, Wales, the Highlands of Scotland, and the northern shores of France. [Written also Kelt. The letter C was pronounced hard in Celtic languages.]

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=celt (American Heritage Dictionary Society.)

A shared herditary grouping of phenotypical traits makes a race. And all races have experienced genetic influx.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=celt (American Heritage Dictionary Society.)

so why are you a celt with genetic influx of 27 other races, rather than one of those 27 other races with genetic influx of celt? Have you had your dna compared?

White

so why are you a celt with genetic influx of 27 other races, rather than one of those 27 other races with genetic influx of celt? Have you had your dna compared?

Well I guess you might as well join the "race is a myth" crowd, if you haven't already. If you have, please refer to my posts in another thread regarding that little theory.

I might even have some ethiopean blood. But in my physiologically apparent traits, I am a Celt. If you think that's funny, you bewilder me and inspire my pity.

Well I guess you might as well join the "race is a myth" crowd, if you haven't already. If you have, please refer to my posts in another thread regarding that little theory.

I might even have some ethiopean blood. But in my physiologically apparent traits, I am a Celt. If you think that's funny, you bewilder me and inspire my pity.

So, I ask you again, how are you a Celt. Your basis is now no longer your national heritage but your "physiologically apparent traits". Which are?

Seriously, race is a myth? Like black people are white? or everyone is grey?

And it isn't your being a celt that amuses me, it's your claiming "Celtic" as your racial identity. I might as well claim "Italian" as mine, because I was born near Manchester, England, and there were a couple of Roman settlements near there 1800 years ago.

And it isn't your being a celt that amuses me, it's your claiming "Celtic" as your racial identity. I might as well claim "Italian" as mine, because I was born near Manchester, England, and there were a couple of Roman settlements near there 1800 years ago.

No, but if you had been born in Italy to an old italian family, or in America or England or somewhere but from italian immigrants, you certainly could. Getting your head around it yet?

No, but if you had been born in Italy to an old italian family, or in America or England or somewhere but from italian immigrants, you certainly could. Getting your head around it yet?

So if you're born in america from welsh immigrants, you can be welsh. Ditto scottish. Ditto mixed welsh and scottish. None of which are the same as "Celt". Getting your head round it yet?

And about your celtic physiology?

So if you're born in america from welsh immigrants, you can be welsh. Ditto scottish. Ditto mixed welsh and scottish. None of which are the same as "Celt". Getting your head round it yet?

And about your celtic physiology?

No they are not the same, they are subcategories. DUH?

And what about it?

are subcategories. DUH?

Is DUH? an argument? No, they aren't. "Welsh" doesn't mean "a subcategory of Celt, ie the Celts who live in Wales". "Welsh" means people from Wales, many of whom are descended from lots of caucasian peoples including Celts. Similarly Scottish. Similarly Irish. There is a lot more Celtic genetic material in Ireland than there is in Wales or Scotland, because Ireland is an island. But is isn't by any means exhaustive. The "black irish" gene set comes from spanish sailors stranded when the armada lost its way. Still, the people of wales and scotlans aren't "Celts"

And what about it?

What does it consist of?

Yes. "DUH?" is an arguement.

Yes. "DUH?" is an arguement.


The prosecution rests.

The prosecution rests.

"Prosecution"? I was never informed that I was on trial. Isn't that customary?

ok.... lets see i'm a human, homo sapien and all that....
Going by everything that's been said....
I'm
1/4 english
1/4 welsh
1/2 spanish (1/4 catalan, 1/4 andaluce)

so by everything said that means....
angle, saxon, cetic, pict, viking, roman, visigoth, frank, phoenecian, greek/hellenic, moor, berber, arab, semite, etc....
going by the history of these places anyway.....

Fuck it!
1/2 british
1/2 spanish.
There...

aryan

Ach, I am Gerrrman - and bonnie Sco'ish - an' bleedin' English - and Dutch, ja, and I am named Hertz van Rentals! But seriously, I am
1/2 German
1/8 Scottish
1/8 Dutch
1/16 English
and the rest is from my families distant past, o' which I am not informed. Tho I suspect I am slightly Danish, because my family (Benthien) comes from northern Germany, which was Danish less then 300 years ago (Holstein).

To sum up, I'm white :) .

Indianapolis 500

Indianapolis 500
what??????? :confused:

I'd like to list my race as Lefty. As leftys are so superior they must be an entirly different species. Hasten the day when my lefty brothers and sisters throw off the shakkles of opression of the right-handed borgueosie. Leftys (and technical leftys) of the world unite!

75% scot highlander
10% manx
10%irish
4%welsh
and 1% @$%&*@#! english

There really isn't race IMO - maybe ethnic/cultural divisions but no such thing as "race" per se