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He is a weather Vane, swing the ways of the political winds. A Sham, A flim-Flam, a Liar. :)

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He's a pragmatist, which has to be better than a dogmatic, neo-conservative, fundamentalist with less command of the English language than your average four year old.

Apologies to any four year olds who may be offended by that comparison.

"John Kerry is a ?"


A next president of the US!, satisfied?

"John Kerry is a ?"


A next president of the US!, satisfied?


i get to go to the inauguration this Janurary... hopfully i wont see him there

He's a girly-man! With a $1000 haircut!

..far more intelligent person than many people that will post here

John Kerry is worthy of being the next president.


He is a weather Vane, swing the ways of the political winds. A Sham, A flim-Flam, a Liar. :)

This kind of statement, which has been said over and over again, is just a bunch of uneducated BS. It's the kind of thing you get from Fox News and republican campaign ads. Try doing some real research and you will learn how totally wrong that statement is.

...douchebag, but I'd vote for him anyway.

http://www.johnkerryisadouchebagbutimvotingforhimanyway.com

The lesser of two evils.

John Kerry is a rather intelligent man who has gotten an exceedingly bad rap. I point you all to the thread where I post his actual war authorization speech. If you read it, you will clearly see that he has been very very far from a weathervane. Quite the opposite, in fact.

John Kerry is worthy of being the next president.




This kind of statement, which has been said over and over again, is just a bunch of uneducated BS. It's the kind of thing you get from Fox News and republican campaign ads. Try doing some real research and you will learn how totally wrong that statement is.

Check YOUR facts and proceed to the voting booth with caution....I suggest you check HIS Sentatorial record, before you enter the realm of the "kool-aid people" permanantly!!! Think for yourself...and not based on media bias!

Check YOUR facts and proceed to the voting booth with caution....I suggest you check HIS Sentatorial record, before you enter the realm of the "kool-aid people" permanantly!!! Think for yourself...and not based on media bias!

I HAVE checked his Senatorial record, and NOT just what his detractors would have you see. Can you say the same? I find his record to be just fine.

I HAVE checked his Senatorial record, and NOT just what his detractors would have you see. Can you say the same? I find his record to be just fine.

I guess the Kool-aid is working!

He's a pragmatist, which has to be better than a dogmatic, neo-conservative, fundamentalist with less command of the English language than your average four year old.

Apologies to any four year olds who may be offended by that comparison.


i completely agree. couldn't have put it better myself.

I guess the Kool-aid is working!

You didn't answer my question.

I'm actually a little scared of what he might do. Think about it this way for a min. At the Presidential Debates, Kerry never gave a strait answer to the questions. He didn't even answer the question when he was asked for an outline for his tactics for Iraq. I may hate Bush, but we may be able to predict what he is going to do.

I'm actually a little scared of what he might do. Think about it this way for a min. At the Presidential Debates, Kerry never gave a strait answer to the questions. He didn't even answer the question when he was asked for an outline for his tactics for Iraq. I may hate Bush, but we may be able to predict what he is going to do.
Has a candidate ever given a completely strait answer to a question in a debate? All of them pussyfoot around the issues, trying to fit in what they have planned to say all along.

Has a candidate ever given a completely strait answer to a question in a debate? All of them pussyfoot around the issues, trying to fit in what they have planned to say all along.
They never really have, but Bush at least stayed on topic and didn't keep going back to how "I have served in a war."

They never really have, but Bush at least stayed on topic and didn't keep going back to how "I have served in a war."

What debate were you watching? Bush's answers sometimes didn't even RELATE to the question. Good god, and he repeated himself ad nauseum. Is this what you mean by "stayed on topic?"

They never really have, but Bush at least stayed on topic and didn't keep going back to how "I have served in a war."
but he did say "wrong time wrong place wrong war" every other answer and repeatedly gave bullshit republican talking points that were irrelevant to the question

At least Kerry has a brain. Bush, on the other hand, isn't just the leader of the "kool-aid" people, he's one of them. He just repeats whatever the real minds behind the Republican party tell him to say. Also, how can any intelligent, free-thinking person call John Kerry a "liar" or (as the Republicans will remind you in every broadcast/commercial/speech they ever produce) a "flip-flopper" and ignore George W. Bush's record on his entire term?

This kind of statement, which has been said over and over again, is just a bunch of uneducated BS. It's the kind of thing you get from Fox News and republican campaign ads. Try doing some real research and you will learn how totally wrong that statement is.
I have done plenty of research on my own, kool-aid boy. You are doing a good work spreading the lefts tainted message. Keep up the good work, Tery Mcawful thanks you for your blind devotion.

I have done plenty of research on my own, kool-aid boy. You are doing a good work spreading the lefts tainted message. Keep up the good work, Tery Mcawful thanks you for your blind devotion.

Keeping inside the lines of "The Big Coloring Book of Republican Intolerance and Disinformation" does not constitute research. I have an idea. How about making rational arguments from time to time, posting your sources, and stopping your blind repetition of phrases like "kool-aid"? Especially since you probably don't know from whence the phrase originated.

I HAVE checked his Senatorial record, and NOT just what his detractors would have you see. Can you say the same? I find his record to be just fine.
You would find his record to be "just fine" if you were, and I am assuming you are, a liberal.

First off, no flaming. My post is bound to make Democrats' blood boil.

Hanoi John Kerry (D-North Vietnam) is a self-proclaimed war criminal, ultra-leftist extremist whose radicalism borders on fanaticism (so liberal he makes George McGovern look like George Wallace), an ardent internationalist, a double-crossing, treasonous liar (a trait he and Bush both share), an opportunistic glory-hog who says and does only what he thinks the public wants to hear/see and does anything he can to milk as many votes as he can, a pro-communist scumbag who has aided the Reds his entire life, from his 'antiwar' activities in the early 70's to his support of the totalitarian, genocidal Sandinistas in the 80's, a radical socialist, and an all-around jerk.


(Phew)

At least Kerry has a brain. Bush, on the other hand, isn't just the leader of the "kool-aid" people, he's one of them. He just repeats whatever the real minds behind the Republican party tell him to say. Also, how can any intelligent, free-thinking person call John Kerry a "liar" or (as the Republicans will remind you in every broadcast/commercial/speech they ever produce) a "flip-flopper" and ignore George W. Bush's record on his entire term?

What about people like me, who are just as nauseated by Bush as they are by Kerry?

Kerry is a Lawyer, a kind synonym for LIAR!

I counted 20 times in the 1st debate where Kerry contradicted himself; compared to Bush with 2.

And to all you Bush haters out there I ask you this:

Would our country be better off if Gore had won 4 years ago? I shudder to think.

Keeping inside the lines of "The Big Coloring Book of Republican Intolerance and Disinformation" does not constitute research. I have an idea. How about making rational arguments from time to time, posting your sources, and stopping your blind repetition of phrases like "kool-aid"? Especially since you probably don't know from whence the phrase originated.
The term kool aid drinker is referring to the Jim Jones massacre in Guyana. It generally means that you are blindly following a demented leader to your own demise.
Except in this case you want to take us with you. No thank you. I had enough liberal kool aid force fed to me in the public school system, I simply reject liberalism at it's core. Nothing against you personally, I actually believe that once you learn how to think independantly and separate your emotions from the issues that you will come over to my side.

The term kool aid drinker is referring to the Jim Jones massacre in Guyana. It generally means that you are blindly following a demented leader to your own demise.
Except in this case you want to take us with you. No thank you. I had enough liberal kool aid force fed to me in the public school system, I simply reject liberalism at it's core. Nothing against you personally, I actually believe that once you learn how to think independantly and separate your emotions from the issues that you will come over to my side.

Gee, places of higher learning are generally considered to be "liberal" and no conservative ever wonders why. Those who study human behavior, the historians, the psychologists, the dociologists, the cultural anthropologists...they all tend towards liberalism. Perhaps when you mature and outgrow your "gimme gimme" id, you'll learn that the only way to better mankind is to have a long view and a concern for your fellow man. Conservatism is the refuge of closed minds.

I feel a flame war coming on...

I dont care if a damn sock puppet were running against Bush. It would get my vote, and Id even buy a shirt. Explain how someone not even intelligent to say "underestimated" without combining it with other words and jumbling it can possibly be fit to be president. www.dubyaspeak.com buddy. Thats just sad. And what will make conservatives even sadder, its all documented.

I would probably vote for Paul Reuben's left testicle if it ran against Bush.

Kerry? Kerry seems alright, a decent liberal.

Gee, places of higher learning are generally considered to be "liberal" and no conservative ever wonders why. Those who study human behavior, the historians, the psychologists, the dociologists, the cultural anthropologists...they all tend towards liberalism. Perhaps when you mature and outgrow your "gimme gimme" id, you'll learn that the only way to better mankind is to have a long view and a concern for your fellow man. Conservatism is the refuge of closed minds.
Liberals naturally gravitate to places where they can currupt young minds with their distorted world veiws, that is why colleges are full of libs, no other reason.
Exactly when did I say "gimme gimme"? Quite clearly you have no idea about what it means to be conservative other than the poisonous propaganda spouted from the left. I believe in individual responsibility and reaping individual rewards. Whch "long veiw" would you prefer? Communism? Only approximately 30 million dead in the wake of that social experiment.That's a good way to show your concern for your fellow man. I know, we can leave the poor impoverished by trapping them in a failed welfare system that does not help them examine why they are in the situation they are in? I want mandatory drug testing for all welfare cash grant recipients with all those who test positive being diverted into treatment. I have been both on drugs and on welfare and I can tell you from first hand experience that it was no coincidence that it was at the same time. You cant help an addict by handing them a check, you're just buying them drugs. Addicts need treatment, not drugs. Once the addicts are out of the system and have become productive contributors to society, then that leaves more resources available to help those who truel need it. Exactly what gave you the idea that we conservatives have no concern for our fellow men? "Give a man a fish and you have fed him for a day. Teach a man how to fish and you have fed him for a lifetime." Sound familiar? Actually "maturing" is what led me into conservatism. Once I assumed resposibility for my own actions and quit sniveling about how tough life is things began improve dramatically. Liberalism feels good, but does not work.

Does he like pies?

...man who has already shown himself willing to turn his back on the men and women of the armed forces of the United States who were serving their country in combat, while at the same time giving hope and inspiration to the enemy.

I can forgive his apparent flip-flopping on issues as the political winds change (Bill Clinton made a career of doing this same thing), but I cannot support the co-founder of the VVAW as a potential Commander-In-Chief of the US military.

John Kerry is a "please explain"?

Kerry is a Lawyer, a kind synonym for LIAR!

I counted 20 times in the 1st debate where Kerry contradicted himself; compared to Bush with 2.

And to all you Bush haters out there I ask you this:

Would our country be better off if Gore had won 4 years ago? I shudder to think.
Yes Gore would be better. In some issues to be sure Gore might be bad at some issues sure but we wouldn't be lied to on a daily basis but the President.

Hanoi John Kerry (D-North Vietnam) is a self-proclaimed war criminal, ultra-leftist extremist whose radicalism borders on fanaticism (so liberal he makes George McGovern look like George Wallace), an ardent internationalist, a double-crossing, treasonous liar (a trait he and Bush both share), an opportunistic glory-hog who says and does only what he thinks the public wants to hear/see and does anything he can to milk as many votes as he can, a pro-communist scumbag who has aided the Reds his entire life, from his 'antiwar' activities in the early 70's to his support of the totalitarian, genocidal Sandinistas in the 80's, a radical socialist, and an all-around jerk.
Hilarious biased response. You start off by name calling and then say his name taking away your credibility from the start.

Then you try to say he was elected by Vietnam. He is not "Ultra" Leftist. Definately not extremeist, many of his ideas for war in Iraq are like Bushes thus Bush is a Utra leftist if that categorical description was even close to truth.
Noithing wrong with being internationalist.
What double crossing you talking about?
Nope, no treason commited by Kerry.
Liar well so is every Politician.
Opportunist? Explain without name calling?
If he only did what people wanted to hear he never would have spokenout against Vietnam and get the backlash from War vets who misunderstood what he said.

He has never advocated communism. Well Bush is freinds with the "reds", Russia, so that is ironic comparison.

What you talking about? Do you have links to this that are non-partisan?

When you give support you aren't supposed to repeat yourself...

Well jerk is rather subjective.

I dont think that he is a LIAR (learn to spell). I also dont think that he is a lier( meaning that he lies around all day), is that a real word :confused: .

..far more intelligent person than many people that will post here

Excuse me? As if you would be able to assess that! ROFLMAO!!!! :D

John Kerry is a "please explain"?

EXACTLY! :D

Gee, places of higher learning are generally considered to be "liberal" and no conservative ever wonders why. Those who study human behavior, the historians, the psychologists, the dociologists, the cultural anthropologists...they all tend towards liberalism. Perhaps when you mature and outgrow your "gimme gimme" id, you'll learn that the only way to better mankind is to have a long view and a concern for your fellow man. Conservatism is the refuge of closed minds.

About the sort of innane "analysis" I've come to expect from you. One reason so many professors and educators have liberal leanings is because most of them have never had to experience the real world, being cloistered in their "ivory towers." In addition, many of the far left during Vietnam gravitated to professions which exempted them from service ... such as "educator" ... and are now tenured professors. But I realize that this post won't make any impact on one as closed-minded as you seem to be. As I've said before, "none so blind as those who will not see." I feel sorry for you, but I suspect you're beyond help.

Anyone who will learn from his mistakes and change his views for the better is good in my books. I dont know why people take the mick out of him so much for that what would you prefair? Somone who does somthing wrong but then keeps on doing it even if they know its wrong?

Anyone who will learn from his mistakes and change his views for the better is good in my books. I dont know why people take the mick out of him so much for that what would you prefair? Somone who does somthing wrong but then keeps on doing it even if they know its wrong?
Anyone who is scummy enough to not have a backbone and flip-flop over and over according to the political winds needs to be sent back to massachusets with his political mentor, the drunk piggie kennedy.

Is a moron.

First of all, what kind of freak shows his "home movies" from Vietnam while on a first date with that hottie Dana Delaney? (No wonder there wasn't a second date. I could have found a few better things to do with her if I had her in my house.)

Second, he wants us to pass the global test. Might be a nice idea, but when certain members of the UN were taking bribes from Iraq, this whole global test idea falls to pieces. Yet people wonder why we didn't get the support we needed. The French and Germans had their hands in the cookie jar of Iraq from the get go. Plus they gave Iraq weapons. Why would you want someone's ok if they were against you no matter what?

Third, he was in "Treblinka" Square when communism in the former USSR collapsed. Nice try John. I guess you'd better hurry if you want to get tickets for the big game at Lambert Field.

Fourth, he wants to give Iran nuclear fuel, so that we can monitor them and see if they will use it for peaceful purposes. Kind of stupid since we know they want a nuclear bomb.

Fifth, he wants to increase taxes on those earning over $200,000 a year. Nice idea, but since many, many small business owners declare their income from the business on their personal taxes, this will hurt the American way of life. This is obvious as small business' employ the most workers in the US.

Anyone who is scummy enough to not have a backbone and flip-flop over and over according to the political winds needs to be sent back to massachusets with his political mentor, the drunk piggie kennedy.
Thats a flame against me my last name is Kennedy, I'm not drunk, a piggy(lol he cant even spell that) or a political mentor.

Anyone who is scummy enough to not have a backbone and flip-flop over and over according to the political winds needs to be sent back to massachusets with his political mentor, the drunk piggie kennedy.
Anyone who still believe that flip-flop rethoric should take a good look at his own candidate to see who is the biggest flip-floper.

Fourth, he wants to give Iran nuclear fuel, so that we can monitor them and see if they will use it for peaceful purposes. Kind of stupid since we know they want a nuclear bomb.

You KNOW they want a bomb? Who exactly Knows this? The only ones I've heard talking about a bomb is Bush and his administration. So excuse me if I'll wait the IAEA findings before jumping to conclusion.

You KNOW they want a bomb? Who exactly Knows this? The only ones I've heard talking about a bomb is Bush and his administration. So excuse me if I'll wait the IAEA findings before jumping to conclusion.

You honestly think Iran doesn't want a nuclear bomb? I can't read minds, but if you trust them to be honest and open, then you are a fool. Why would you want to give them this fuel, which doesn't take much in order for it to be weaponized? I guess since you are a Canadian you look at the world differently, but I was born in Israel, served in it's military and services, and have seen the evil of Iran. I am now an American Citizen, and hold the same views on Iran.

PS-Enjoy your poutine.

East Canuck's most valued possesion:

http://www.sacredcowburgers.com/parodies/kerrys_legitimate_running_mate.jpg

His Kerry Button.

..is my first choice.

wow... I can't believe some of you ("conservatives") are for real. Like, I thought this was IC for a minute... it really scared me.

I would love to know the ages of some of you - hopefully you are not old enough to vote. Ivory towers? Communism? Are you frickin kidding me? This is what you are worried about? This is what you consider when you decide who you are going to vote for? Funny how a conservative calls us liberals close minded. Your broad and sweeping comments about educators are both ignorant and insulting, and probably stems from the fact that most educators, be it college or not, care about education; something republicans have never gotten correct.

Someone mentioned thinking about Kerry and what he would do, and that you could predict Bush's actions.... like that was a GOOD thing.

Yeah I can predict his actions. Lets see. How about not getting out of Iraq before his presidency is up? Yeah, I can see that... after all, he has all but admitted that this is now an occupation, and we need time and its "hard work" over there and we are "making progress". How about losing more jobs than any president since the depression... oh wait, he already did that! Go Dubya! Ok, how about trying to pass an amendment that _limits_ freedom (gay rights)? Yeah, I can see that too. Not to mention trying to expand the unconstitutional and Un-American Patriot Act. Whoa whoa YOU have an Islamic name? You looked at a stewardess funny? No constitutional rights for you Muhammad! We are locking you up! Oh, and then there is the under funded, overreaching No Child Left Behind, which is destroying American Education. He already has the worst environmental record of any president in our history, so at least that will save him some time. Maybe we will continue to ignore North Korea too, so they finally bomb someone. Or maybe Cheney can try to repeal MLK Jr day since he thinks it shouldnt be a holiday...
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You can talk about records to you are blue in the face. You can talk about Iraq and who has plans and who doesn't. To Hell with Iraq. I am worried about the UNITED FUDGING STATES. I am worried about what Bush has done and will continue to do. I am HOPEFUL that Kerry will change this. And from what I have seen from Bush, I am confident that America needs a change.

After all, hope is what Democracy is all about =)

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plese explain

Botoxed Girly-Man.

But I have no real problem with that.

The reason he's not worthy of my vote is because he will emulate Carter in the presidency, and simply allow the world to degenerate into a malaise of western whimpering and islamist rampaging.

He is a man without a core.

You honestly think Iran doesn't want a nuclear bomb? I can't read minds, but if you trust them to be honest and open, then you are a fool. Why would you want to give them this fuel, which doesn't take much in order for it to be weaponized? I guess since you are a Canadian you look at the world differently, but I was born in Israel, served in it's military and services, and have seen the evil of Iran. I am now an American Citizen, and hold the same views on Iran.

PS-Enjoy your poutine.
You honestly think I'll believe a source like the US administration when almost every other source of intelligence says that we DON'T KNOW what it's for? I can how being an former Israel resident you have serious misgivings about the veracity of Iran's claims but I have the same serious doubts about the claim that Iran wants the bomb.

And to the dumbass that posted the image: go fuck yourself. I find your kind of arguments childish and non-productive. Consider yourself ignored.

Oh and I will enjoy my poutine. Thank You very much.

i think john kerry is a tall botox infused girly man cause it sounds funny and i dont think politicians should be presidents cause as Plato said "power should be confined to those who are not in love with it" and i think all politicians are basically in love with it or they wouldnt try so hard to get it. they all just need some pussy.

[East Canuck #53]
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You honestly think Iran doesn't want a nuclear bomb? I can't read minds, but if you trust them to be honest and open, then you are a fool. Why would you want to give them this fuel, which doesn't take much in order for it to be weaponized? I guess since you are a Canadian you look at the world differently, but I was born in Israel, served in it's military and services, and have seen the evil of Iran. I am now an American Citizen, and hold the same views on Iran.

PS-Enjoy your poutine.

You honestly think I'll believe a source like the US administration when almost every other source of intelligence says that we DON'T KNOW what it's for? I can how being an former Israel resident you have serious misgivings about the veracity of Iran's claims but I have the same serious doubts about the claim that Iran wants the bomb.

And to the dumbass that posted the image: go fuck yourself. I find your kind of arguments childish and non-productive. Consider yourself ignored.

Oh and I will enjoy my poutine. Thank You very much.

Heh he he he..!

Canucky..! Glad to see your adolescent little Canadan mind again..! :)

I hear there's an islamist recruiting center very near where you live, and I'm SURE you've already been down to sign-up, but just in case you haven't, I'd suggest you get that done early in the day. They tend to treat people a bit surly after 11:30 am.

Your evil is profoundly obvious. Anyone that would claim that islamists "don't want nuclear weapons" is certainly one of them.

Happy jihad to you, and don't forget to blow yourself up early and often..! :D

35.54% negative, 53.05% positive, 11.41% no opinion. Gasp!

35.54% negative, 53.05% positive, 11.41% no opinion. Gasp!

That's actually twice as much negative as I'd expect in this forum!

He is a superfreak, a guy who couldn't get laid in a brothel with a pocketfull of cash.

John swings, and misses! (http://www.guiadelaradio.com/dana/0148.jpg)

KERRY'S ONE DATE ONLY ACTRESS - DANA DELANEY

Hollywood actress, Dana Delany, said he was so vain that, on first date, he took her
home to show video clips of himself in Navy while in Vietnam -- she never went out
with him again (smart girl - probably not rich enough, anyway). What kind of weird
freak shows home movies of himself in a war to get in a girl's pants..???

Excerpts from National Enquirer story about Kerry
National Enquirer

"John Kerry is so vain that one former girlfriend says he always wanted to make love where he could see himself in the mirror!"

...The first time he took Hollywood star Dana Delany home, his big move was showing her video clips taken of him in the Navy while he
was in Vietnam. She never went out with him again.

He dated Morgan Fairchild and Michelle Phillips - and they've both donated to other Democratic candidates for the 2004 election. What
does that tell you they think of him now?.

"Kerry could compete with Bill Clinton as a womanizer. Between his two marriages, he was notorious for hitting the singles bars in
Boston and Washington with a posse of wealthy friends.

"Even after he was married, a gorgeous 22-year old blonde was spotted leaving his Boston townhouse in 1998, while his wife was in
Nantucket...

Many voters would be surprised to learn about Kerry's lineage, too. "Kerry is not Irish, although he doesn't go out of his way to explain
his true roots," said the source. "Massachusetts is the most Irish-American state."

His grandfather, Frederick Kerry was born Fritz Kohn. A Czech Jew, Fritz changed his name and converted to Catholicism to avoid
anti-semitism. A family member claimed the name Kerry was chosen by dropping a pencil on a map of Europe. The pencil landed on
County Kerry in Ireland.

Frederick and his wife Ida, a Hungarian Jew who also converted to Catholicism, immigrated to the US in 1905. Frederick worked in the
shoe business.

On Nov. 23, 1921, he walked into a bathroom at Boston's Copley Plaza Hotel, took out a gun and put a bullet in his head. Articles from
the time cite financial difficulties as a possible motive for the suicide.

...By the late 1980's, Kerry was floundering financially without the help of a wealthy wife.

For months at a time, he found himself homeless, forced to live with lobbyist friends or his former brother-in-law, David Thorne.

But his financial situation changed when he met his second wife, Teresa Heinz, the widow of Pennsylvania Sen. H. John Heinz, heir to
the condiment fortune. Teresa inherited 550 million from her late husband.


This guy is just a loser.

I like how the original poster put two category which supported Kerry, and 3 which oppose him. That way, people against kerry have to choose between those 3 (making the percentage that choose any one category that much smaller). If a majority of Bush voters were to take this poll, one of the "pro kerry" statements could still win because of the distribution. (it's the same thing as the "Nader Effect".)

I support bush, but I said "a man worthy of presidency." I think he'd be an OK president, but I just like Bush better. In the end, I won't really mind either way.

Wait, MOEHOWARD, the man got a date (even if it was only one,) with Dana Delany, Morgan Fairchild and Michelle Phillips and you're calling him a loser?

Also, what the hell are you doing using the National Enquirer as a source?

How about I use the Weekly World News as a source to prove to you that Bush is an alien who has come to Earth before in the guise of Calligula? Did you hear that Bat Boy is secretly in Bush's cabinet? Oh, and don't forget that Bush's plan to open up national forest land is part of his plan to capture Bigfoot and ship him over to Iraq as a new form of "SHock and Awe."

I support bush, but I said "a man worthy of presidency." I think he'd be an OK president, but I just like Bush better. In the end, I won't really mind either way.


It's nice to know I'm not alone on this. Much rather see Bush, though!

Wait, MOEHOWARD, the man got a date (even if it was only one,) with Dana Delany, Morgan Fairchild and Michelle Phillips and you're calling him a loser?

Also, what the hell are you doing using the National Enquirer as a source?

How about I use the Weekly World News as a source to prove to you that Bush is an alien who has come to Earth before in the guise of Calligula? Did you hear that Bat Boy is secretly in Bush's cabinet? Oh, and don't forget that Bush's plan to open up national forest land is part of his plan to capture Bigfoot and ship him over to Iraq as a new form of "SHock and Awe."

Hmm, I once dated a celebrity, but alas that was many moons ago (Her initials are MC). FYI she is a nice lady. Just shows what kind of schmuck Kerry is that he can't get a quality piece of tail. Sure he married rich broads, but just look at them.

The NE has alot of factual basis for their celeb gossip. Dana Delaney even said this herself. Morgan Fairchild and Michelle Philips are just dried up old hags, but he couldn't even hang on to them.

Anyone who still believe that flip-flop rethoric should take a good look at his own candidate to see who is the biggest flip-floper.



You KNOW they want a bomb? Who exactly Knows this? The only ones I've heard talking about a bomb is Bush and his administration. So excuse me if I'll wait the IAEA findings before jumping to conclusion.

They have publicly and openly declared that they want a bomb. Further they recently declared that they would not accept Kerrys offer becuase they are after a bomb and want no UN oversight.

They have publicly and openly declared that they want a bomb. Further they recently declared that they would not accept Kerrys offer becuase they are after a bomb and want no UN oversight.

Good. The whole point of Kerry's offer was to see if they wanted a bomb or energy. Now we know definitively that they want the bomb. Another good job by Kerry. It's amazing how often the guy is right and gets no credit for it.

Good. The whole point of Kerry's offer was to see if they wanted a bomb or energy. Now we know definitively that they want the bomb. Another good job by Kerry. It's amazing how often the guy is right and gets no credit for it.

Kerry made the "offer" statement AFTER they declared their intent to aquire the bomb, which just illustrates exactly how stupid he really is. DUH

Kerry made the "offer" statement AFTER they declared their intent to aquire the bomb, which just illustrates exactly how stupid he really is. DUH

Wait, you've actually seen Bush and Kerry, side by side, and you came to the conclusion that Kerry is stupid?

Look, Kerry's proposal actually constituted an increase in UN observation. In order to accept the offer, the Iranians would have to allow the UN 'round the clock observation and would give the UN knowledge as to exactly what was going on and where. Now, while Iran has said they wanted the bomb, they have also said they want atomic energy. This would make them come down to a definitive either/or decision. Once an absolute certainty is reached, the international community would have no choice but to increase sanctions and surveillance.

That, my friend, is good politics, It means making the case so conclusively that international cooperation isn't a matter of each countries preference, but of necessity. This, of course, is how the Bush administration failed miserably. They tried to demand cooperation, instead of finessing cooperation.

John kerry will not make a good president, he flip flops and doesn't look good on camera but he mit as well be jesus compared to bush

John kerry will not make a good president, he flip flops and doesn't look good on camera but he mit as well be jesus compared to bush
anyone who says kerry flip flops shouldnt be allowed to vote, period.

anyone who says kerry flip flops shouldnt be allowed to vote, period.

Anyone who believes Kerry has flip-flopped on Iraq needs to go here: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=363622&page=4

I posted his actual speech from the day he voted for authorization to go to war. It's not only 100% consistent, but it also shows how clearly Kerry saw the situation, even then.

Bush, on the other hand, has flip-flopped repeatedly about why we went into Iraq.

1.) They were an imminent nuclear threat.

2.) They were the focus of worldwide terrorism, and Saddam had the capability to make WMD

3.) Okay, Saddam had no WMD or the capability to make them in the near future...but we're spreading freedom! That was our point all along!