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A thought

Kurai Nami
17-09-2004, 15:08
Warning: This post may contain Humor and Irony, people allergic to such. Should keep clear as the author of said thread, claim no responsibility to any allergic reactions..

My northern brothers and sisters, it came to me while reading the thread "United States of Europe". That we do not have to comply with EU, we can make our own future. Many years ago Sweden held a prominent position, with the help of our Finnish brothers and sisters. It can be again, join me under the color of the proud Swedish flag, lets face it finns. You had it much better under swedish rule, and now that we both are so advanced in the mobile phone area. We should pool our resources, (the phones can be called Nokisson or something). Together we can take back the land from the norse and russians, reclaim the lands of Estonia,Latvia,Lithuania,Germany and Poland. Once we are strong we can claim Wineland (USA is such a silly name, lets call it by it's rightful name). Even once again make the britons quake in their boots at the sight of our long boats, join me now brother and sisters.

And lets be glorious together under one Swedish rule..

*Waves the swedish flag and sings the national anthem*
Joey P
17-09-2004, 15:13
Kind of off topic but here goes anyway. Ericsson mobile phones aren't that advanced from what I've seen. I work in telecom, and we can barely give them away. People don't like the style, features, or performance. Nokia, on the other hand, is always a brisk seller.
Kurai Nami
17-09-2004, 15:22
Kind of off topic but here goes anyway. Ericsson mobile phones aren't that advanced from what I've seen. I work in telecom, and we can barely give them away. People don't like the style, features, or performance. Nokia, on the other hand, is always a brisk seller.


Thats one of the resons to make this glorious alliance, the finns and swedes have the know how. Just imagen what could be done if Nokia and Ericsson where merged..
Eynonistan
17-09-2004, 15:23
*wipes a tear from his eye*

If only BMV were here to see this! Death to Norway!

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SgAAAL8WrmCcSmKuYE5FP5tizfvJGn92OZLWBb5zYZvDHqWKX4G9HM6DbMnD5hdFTXUfIs9iPyp48ZYOJOhga!MUC5GVmnW3Tmu UtMgwz7s3thw3bPK0Hg/norway%20tree.GIF
Kurai Nami
17-09-2004, 15:25
A true supporter, here grab a flag and then arm yourself with what ever is handy. We will still reclaim what was ours..
Bunnyducks
17-09-2004, 15:26
Ok then. But we need to discuss the flag and anthem issue. Furthermore, we want proportional share of seats in the new parliament (you are, what? close to 10 million - only 5 million of us... shouldn't be a problem?).

EDIT: Oh! And the king must go!
Eynonistan
17-09-2004, 15:29
*Picks up Ikea "SLÄKT" poking implements and begins to advance into Denmark*
Kurai Nami
17-09-2004, 15:30
Ok then. But we need to discuss the flag and anthem issue. Furthermore, we want proportional share of seats in the new parliament (you are, what? close to 10 million - only 5 million of us... shouldn't be a problem?).

EDIT: Oh! And the king must go!

Oh thats no problem, we'll elect his eldest daughter. Anthem and flag, well that can be fixed. After all you finns fought bravely in many wa.... liberations down in germany. Oh and i'll withdraw any claims to Åland..

Oh and good work Eynonistan, i had forgotten about the danes..
Eynonistan
17-09-2004, 15:40
Victoria? Oh, she's cute!

http://www.wordiq.com/knowledge/upload/thumb/5/52/180px-Victoria%2C_Crown_Princess_of_Sweden.jpg
Biff Pileon
17-09-2004, 15:44
Don't forget Iceland and Greenland.....
Kurai Nami
17-09-2004, 15:49
Victoria? Oh, she's cute!

http://www.wordiq.com/knowledge/upload/thumb/5/52/180px-Victoria%2C_Crown_Princess_of_Sweden.jpg

Yep thats her alright, she seems to have all the brains in the family. Her father is more os less a disaster..

Oh rest asured Bill we'll take those too
Bunnyducks
17-09-2004, 15:49
I have to say this is one of the brightest ideas i have seen in this forum (you may interpret that as you may).

When forming a single unit, we don't have to bother ourselves with all these petty EU vs. USA threads when we visit this site. Let's face it... in those discussions EU is just France, Germany and GB... and sometimes Poland (psst, for oldtimes sake, would it be possible we invaded Poland the first thing we do? That would be great for the morale of the new unit... and would bring up fond memories from centuries back...).

Some more deman.. propositions. Adopt Euro. It has proven handy.
Joey P
17-09-2004, 15:51
Just what the world needs, fucking vikings. I guess the good old USA had better build another carrier battle group to defend our shores.
Biff Pileon
17-09-2004, 15:53
Just what the world needs, fucking vikings. I guess the good old USA had better build another carrier battle group to defend our shores.

Longboats won't show up on radar....so the Viking hordes will come ashore and pillage before we know they are there. With their superior cell phone technology they will have instant communications.....until we turn the satellites off.
Eynonistan
17-09-2004, 15:53
Just what the world needs, fucking vikings. I guess the good old USA had better build another carrier battle group to defend our shores.

Ah, you are the bride of the Svïnafell troll, as people say, and every ninth night he treats you like a woman!
Joey P
17-09-2004, 15:57
Ah, you are the bride of the Svïnafell troll, as people say, and every ninth night he treats you like a woman!
Washing dishes and clothes, cooking meals, that sort of thing?
Eynonistan
17-09-2004, 16:00
Washing dishes and clothes, cooking meals, that sort of thing?

*longs for old twisted smilie* :(

Erm, yes, exactly that sort of thing ;)
Kurai Nami
17-09-2004, 16:21
Sure Well take the route thru russia and the baltic states before poland, i'm sure they will be happy to see us. The great liberators, we'll crush their puny armies like ants..

As for Wineland, it will be quick. Might even consider selling back Manhattan to the natives, they atleast have the money to buy it with..
Bunnyducks
17-09-2004, 16:28
Better leave it at that though. I think raping and pillaging Germany isn't an option this time..?
Eynonistan
17-09-2004, 16:30
Better leave it at that though. I think raping and pillaging Germany isn't an option this time..?

Probably be happy with the old Kalmar nations...
Bungeria
17-09-2004, 16:33
During the 1640s people were honestly thinking that Sweden's 'natural borders' might lie around the Black Sea.
Bunnyducks
17-09-2004, 16:34
During the 1640s people were honestly thinking that Sweden's 'natural borders' might lie around the Black Sea.

It's "from 1640s", not "during".
The Reunited Yorkshire
17-09-2004, 16:35
We of Yorkshire, of Saxon, Viking and Norman blood, would be willing to join you in this endeavour for a share of the loot...
Eynonistan
17-09-2004, 16:36
We of Yorkshire, of Saxon, Viking and Norman blood, would be willing to join you in this endeavour for a share of the loot...

Must be almost time to sack Peterborough again. Please tell me it is! :D
The Reunited Yorkshire
17-09-2004, 16:38
The men of Jorvik will march wherever you ask sir, providing there is battle and pillaging at the end...
Bungeria
17-09-2004, 16:38
It's "from 1640s", not "during".No, actually it was during the 1640s. And part of the 1650s, until Kristina abdicated.
Kurai Nami
17-09-2004, 16:40
Better leave it at that though. I think raping and pillaging Germany isn't an option this time..?

We might, just for old times sake ya know. After all they did kill one of our kings, i think we'll execute payback for some of this http://home.swipnet.se/~w-42039/BATTLEINTRO.htm :)
Bunnyducks
17-09-2004, 16:40
Well, in the spirit of this thread i meant it has been the predominant view FROM 1640s to this day.
Bungeria
17-09-2004, 16:45
No, after Kristina abdicated Sweden kinda lost its position as a superpower. Well, it lost that position in 1632 or 1633 (can't remember) when Gustavus Adolphus was killed at Lutzen. During Karl XII's time there was something of a military renewal, but hardly enough to bring its borders to the Black Sea.

And since Sweden hasn't fought a war since 1814, I don't think anyone during those 190 years has wanted to bring Sweden's borders to the Black Sea either. At least not anyone in power.
Bunnyducks
17-09-2004, 16:45
Some minor flaws in that site Kurai... the last two boxes in the table: "the 30 year war - winter campaign of 1940."...and later "...1941".
Bunnyducks
17-09-2004, 16:47
Yeah Bungeria. I see what you mean. But read the 1st post and the ones after that and try to think if this thread may be a bit tongue in cheek... :)
Bungeria
17-09-2004, 16:50
Oh no! I agree wholeheartedly with the spirit of the first poster!

Just like Gustavus Adolphus was the only king of the time worthy of the title "King", the government of Sweden today is really the only competent government in the world.
Eynonistan
17-09-2004, 16:50
Yeah Bungeria. I see what you mean. But read the 1st post and the ones after that and try to think if this thread may be a bit tongue in cheek... :)

You think? :lol:
Bunnyducks
17-09-2004, 16:51
I think!
And therefore i maintain my position. That idea has been predominant FROM the 1640's!
;)
Kurai Nami
17-09-2004, 16:52
Yeah Bungeria. I see what you mean. But read the 1st post and the ones after that and try to think if this thread may be a bit tongue in cheek... :)

No where did you get that from? :), It would be a blast to reclaim all that was lost. When one bungeld in Lützen and then another made a mess in Norway, Kristina pretty much killed the hole swedish empire thing.
Corse what is to stop us once we have all that?, might even sponsor some trips up the Rhône to sack some french citys.
The Reunited Yorkshire
17-09-2004, 16:52
No shit man? I was serious about the the whole looting and pillaging bit...
Bunnyducks
17-09-2004, 16:53
Yah, but we Finns courteously stayed on your side... until you REALLY fumbled and lost us too in 1809! Damn you!
The Reunited Yorkshire
17-09-2004, 16:57
No where did you get that from? :), It would be a blast to reclaim all that was lost. When one bungeld in Lützen and then another made a mess in Norway, Kristina pretty much killed the hole swedish empire thing.
Corse what is to stop us once we have all that?, might even sponsor some trips up the Rhône to sack some french citys.
Well if you're planning on harrying France then bases on our East coast would be most useful...
Bungeria
17-09-2004, 16:57
"Bungled in Lutzen" is putting it mildly! the idiot led cavalry charges. And he did it without wearing any armour, too.
Kurai Nami
17-09-2004, 17:00
Yah, but we Finns courteously stayed on your side... until you REALLY fumbled and lost us too in 1809! Damn you!

Yeah, that was a big mistake. But fear not, we'll reunite you with the motherland. If you want Moskow just say so..

As for the Yorkshire fellow, keep the shores free. When we come in the longboats, it would be good if we did'nt have to fight our way inland. Do that and you can play as much as you like with Londinium :)
Bunnyducks
17-09-2004, 17:04
Oh, I'm not worried anymore. Seeing this thread has took a load off my back. You just go ahead and write the new constitution (according to the principles agreed in page 1) and mail it to me... i'll go to our parliament to get the proper signatures and you can do the same there. Shouldn't take more than couple of weeks before we once again are united (and have the best damned hockey team in the world).
Kurai Nami
17-09-2004, 17:05
Oh, I'm not worried anymore. Seeing this thread has took a load off my back. You just go ahead and write the new constitution (according to the principles agreed in page 1) and mail it to me... i'll go to our parliament to get the proper signatures and you can do the same there. Shouldn't take more than couple of weeks before we once again are united (and have the best damned hockey team in the world).


Not to mention cell phones and cars, oh and say. Don't you have some good special forces?
The Reunited Yorkshire
17-09-2004, 17:06
Yeah, that was a big mistake. But fear not, we'll reunite you with the motherland. If you want Moskow just say so..

As for the Yorkshire fellow, keep the shores free. When we come in the longboats, it would be good if we did'nt have to fight our way inland. Do that and you can play as much as you like with Londinium :)
Hell if you're gonna go that far then what about our old lands in France and Denmark...And Saxony, perhaps...
Bunnyducks
17-09-2004, 17:10
Yah... about the cell phones... you do see that Sony has to go? Special forces? I don't know about that, but we have a great team in special olympics. ;)

EDIT: oh, you prolly meant the purple berets... i wouldn't know... i couldn't get in when it was acute... i'm nearsighted.
Kurai Nami
17-09-2004, 17:13
Hell if you're gonna go that far then what about our old lands in France and Denmark...And Saxony, perhaps...

Want to give some payback on the normands?

Bunnyducks, eh once we are done Sony will be a distant memory :)
The Reunited Yorkshire
17-09-2004, 17:13
I'm not a military type thing junky or anything and I don't pretend that my knowledge of such matters is anything but superficial, but I have heard somewhere that the Finnish special forces are supposed to be among the best...
Bunnyducks
17-09-2004, 17:16
I wouldn't know R.Yorkshire. I went through my 11 months military training wayyy back in the middle ages, but I'm not into military issues. I bet some military genius will pop in and fill you in though...
Kurai Nami
17-09-2004, 17:17
Sad reading this, and so much to pay the russians back for

http://www.napoleonseries.org/articles/wars/russoswede.cfm
Bunnyducks
17-09-2004, 17:21
The best approach with Russia is to leave em be and to let them implode. Meanwhile we can take Silja and Viking Line ferries and invade the Baltic states. After Russia has imploded... we can establish Nya Novgorod.
(As long as we remember to go and plunder Poland a little too)
The Reunited Yorkshire
17-09-2004, 17:22
Is that compulsary military service? I often think it sounds like a good idea, so long as it's only for a fairly short period....But then if it meant I had to cut my hair I'd probably do my best to avoid it..
Kurai Nami
17-09-2004, 17:22
The best approach with Russia is to leave em be and to let them implode. Meanwhile we can take Silja and Viking Line ferries and invade the Baltic states. After Russia has imploded... we can establish Nya Novgorod.
(As long as we remember to go and plunder Poland a little too)


OooH good idea *nods approval*
Bunnyducks
17-09-2004, 17:26
Yeah it's compulsory. the longest stint when i was in - '90 - was 11 months, the shortest 8. Nowadays it is 6months, something and 11 months (i think). A good idea? Dunno... 82% of the guys do it, and the rest do it in hospitals and universities and such. I think that will change in 14 days when the new Swedish-Finnish constitution is adopted...?

EDIT: I mean if large-scale plundering, raping and pillaging is to be done, we need all men between ages 19 and 45.
The Reunited Yorkshire
17-09-2004, 17:26
Are we just thinking in terms of estabilishing a Baltic Russia/Ukraine/Muscovy kingdom here or extending all the way into Siberai and to the Pacific?
Kurai Nami
17-09-2004, 17:30
Yeah it's compulsory. the longest stint when i was in - '90 - was 11 months, the shortest 8. Nowadays it is 6months, something and 11 months (i think). A good idea? Dunno... 82% of the guys do it, and the rest do it in hospitals and universities and such. I think that will change in 14 days when the new Swedish-Finnish constitution is adopted...?

There will be many changes, *nods*

Nah Yorkshire, once the back is secured. We will turn our eyes towards the mediterrainian sea..
Bunnyducks
17-09-2004, 17:31
I would pass on Siberia. It's cold and there are myriards of mosquitos... not that it's a problem for our highly effective troops... but seems a nuisance.
The Reunited Yorkshire
17-09-2004, 17:33
Yeah it's compulsory. the longest stint when i was in - '90 - was 11 months, the shortest 8. Nowadays it is 6months, something and 11 months (i think). A good idea? Dunno... 82% of the guys do it, and the rest do it in hospitals and universities and such. I think that will change in 14 days when the new Swedish-Finnish constitution is adopted...?

EDIT: I mean if large-scale plundering, raping and pillaging is to be done, we need all men between ages 19 and 45.
Well, you need to leave a few serfs back home to keep the farms going and such...Otherwise you might not have much to come back to after a fun filled summer of ravaging the weak Southern peoples...
Kurai Nami
17-09-2004, 17:39
Siberia has oil,gas and some minerals, that would be the only reason to go there. But we don't have to, down by Baku there is plenty of oil..
Bunnyducks
17-09-2004, 17:42
Why, yes. But there's plenty of oil in the North Sea too. So no worries... the juggernaut won't stop because we run out of oil!
Bungeria
17-09-2004, 17:42
I'm thinking of moving to Siberia. Just look at it... (really annoyed 'cause colon doesn't work on this keyboard) more square kilometres of unclaimed wilderness than you can count, more unexploited natural resources than you can exploit in a decade and a police system that really can't be bothered with internet piracy.
Kurai Nami
17-09-2004, 17:46
I'm thinking of moving to Siberia. Just look at it... (really annoyed 'cause colon doesn't work on this keyboard) more square kilometres of unclaimed wilderness than you can count, more unexploited natural resources than you can exploit in a decade and a police system that really can't be bothered with internet piracy.


And all the mammoths you can eat
Bunnyducks
17-09-2004, 17:47
Hehe. And no working power grid or telephone lines. I bet your cell phone bills would be soaring through the roof if you went there to download. Thenagain, you could mine oil and drill for gold, methinks...
Kurai Nami
17-09-2004, 17:56
Sure you will be cold, but with the proper equipment. I'm sure you would be cozy, and if you build a dome over the living space. It will be even better, and internet can be reached via sattelite.. :)
The Reunited Yorkshire
17-09-2004, 18:04
You could have a tropical atmosphere within the dome and live amid a lush jungle like vegetation, all powered by geothermal reactions...
Kurai Nami
17-09-2004, 18:08
Heck! i'll put you in charge of the siberian operation :), i'll give you some troops to keep the seclusion you seek safe..
Bunnyducks
17-09-2004, 18:08
Yeah yeah, geothermal reactions and dome, yeah. Let's not forget who this guy is... "...police system that really can't be bothered with internet piracy.". Sounds like a computer nerd! So who is going to provide him with pizzas and coke? Not the Swedish-Finnish army i hope? We have things to do in Poland!
Kurai Nami
17-09-2004, 18:13
Yeah yeah, geothermal reactions and dome, yeah. Let's not forget who this guy is... "...police system that really can't be bothered with internet piracy.". Sounds like a computer nerd! So who is going to provide him with pizzas and coke? Not the Swedish-Finnish army i hope? We have things to do in Poland!


*Points to his post above* i'm sure a small detachment of siberian natives can help =). We'll just ask "nicely"
Bunnyducks
17-09-2004, 23:47
A thread like this can't go to the great dustbin of threads...! no!
Kurai Nami
18-09-2004, 12:23
Why should it go to the dustbin, i'm sure there are more of us out there. That wants to see glory and justice restored..