NationStates Jolt Archive

This is the compassionate party? What is more compassionate than stealing a sign from a small child, destroying it, and laughing at her sadness? Kerry supporters unite against the danger of small children.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040916/480/wvrs10309162250

And she didn't illegally trespass onto the convention floor. She deserved it right?

You gotta realize, this is Huntington, West Virginia. Home of Marshall University. The only Div. 1 school I know of that will let drunk rednecks in to watch a football game, let them leave at halftime to get drunker, and let them back in for the start of the third quarter. This behavior isn't surprising.

:rolleyes: *sighs* it's not like they took her doll, or step on her doggie's tail or something...

Let's see. Kerry supporters tear up a sign. A Bush supporter kicks a woman repeatedly while she's on the ground.

Damn those heartless Kerry supporters!

Basing your opinion of either candidate on what a few unruly supporters do is simply stupid.

LMFAO!

Don't vote for Kerry because a couple of his supporters tore up a little girl's sign!

This has got to be one of the saddest and outragous things that has happened in this campaign.

Those people should be ashamed of themselves for doing that.

That poor little girl.

This has got to be one of the saddest and outragous things that has happened in this campaign.

Those people should be ashamed of themselves for doing that.

That poor little girl.

Apparently you didn't read my post up above.

Hope it doesn't make you cry, little girl.

Look at them laughing at her, and screaming at her while she cries. What great people they are.

Well, it could be worse. She could have been arrested (http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4500390,00.html), like this woman was.

A woman wearing a T-shirt with the words ``President Bush You Killed My Son'' and a picture of a soldier killed in Iraq was detained Thursday after she interrupted a campaign speech by first lady Laura Bush.

Police escorted Sue Niederer, of Hopewell, N.J., from a rally at a firehouse after she demanded to know why her son, Army 1st Lt. Seth Dvorin, 24, was killed in Iraq. Dvorin died in February while trying to disarm a bomb.

As shouts of ``Four More Years'' subsided, Niederer, standing in the middle of a crowd of some 700, continued to shout about the killing of her son. Secret Service and local police escorted her out of the event, handcuffed her and placed her in the back of a police van.

Niederer was later charged with defiant trespass and released.

Classy--the woman is mad because her son was killed in a needless war, and Bush supporters chant over her grief with "Four More Years."

Let me say this as well--neither group is on the side of angels here, but let's not act like the rude behavior is solely the domain of the Democratic party, okay? You just come off looking like a partisan schmuck.

Well, it could be worse. She could have been arrested (http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4500390,00.html), like this woman was.

Classy--the woman is mad because her son was killed in a needless war, and Bush supporters chant over her grief with "Four More Years."

Let me say this as well--neither group is on the side of angels here, but let's not act like the rude behavior is solely the domain of the Democratic party, okay? You just come off looking like a partisan schmuck.

Bullshit. You don't express grief by going to a political rally and screaming during a speech. Besides the fact that Bush didn't kill her son, that woman was most likely an anti-Bush partisan long before Gulf II. She probably hated her son for going the military.

Acording to liberals and the American media. This qualifies as tourture and war crimes. Public, private or any kind of humiliation is torture, according to the left. All those ignorant Kerry supporters should be arrested and brought up on charges. Torturing children. Way to go, leftists.

This is the compassionate party? What is more compassionate than stealing a sign from a small child, destroying it, and laughing at her sadness? Kerry supporters unite against the danger of small children.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040916/480/wvrs10309162250

And she didn't illegally trespass onto the convention floor. She deserved it right?

http://inter-fan.org/history/stupid.jpg

Holy fuckingly stupid ideas Batman! Someone's judging a person based on his followers!

Bush: "Sure, they have the freedom to speak their minds, just as others have the right to wrestle them to the ground and shove a damp rag in their mouth..."

Bullshit. You don't express grief by going to a political rally and screaming during a speech. Besides the fact that Bush didn't kill her son, that woman was most likely an anti-Bush partisan long before Gulf II. She probably hated her son for going the military.Maybe you don't, but she did, and fuck you for daring to assume that what this woman did was based on political beliefs and not on her feelings about her son. How dare you? Have you no decency? Her child has died in this war, and you presume that she would trade on that to make political points? When you lose a child, then open your goddamn mouth.

Bush: "Sure, they have the freedom to speak their minds, just as others have the right to wrestle them to the ground and shove a damp rag in their mouth..."

Funny, I recall the Boston police fencing in all the DNC protestors under a highway overpass.

Acording to liberals and the American media. This qualifies as tourture and war crimes. Public, private or any kind of humiliation is torture, according to the left. All those ignorant Kerry supporters should be arrested and brought up on charges. Torturing children. Way to go, leftists.


This is frippen hilarious. Now I'll go find something about Republicans beating up a gay man, then you'll find something about Democrats attacking an NRA speaker, then I'll find something about Republicans attacking a doctor at an abortion clinic, then you'll find something...it could go on for hours.

I really really think you're missing the frippen point.

Let's see. Kerry supporters tear up a sign. A Bush supporter kicks a woman repeatedly while she's on the ground.

Damn those heartless Kerry supporters!

Basing your opinion of either candidate on what a few unruly supporters do is simply stupid.
True, and in this light, the Kerry supporters are more tame. After all, the only violent action was taken against a dead tree.

She probably hated her son for going the military.

*sighs*

you really think it's more plausible that she hates her son and is using his corpse as a political tool than that she might possibly have a legitimate reason to question the president? -_- That's why I hate these politics...

Acording to liberals and the American media. This qualifies as tourture and war crimes. Public, private or any kind of humiliation is torture, according to the left. All those ignorant Kerry supporters should be arrested and brought up on charges. Torturing children. Way to go, leftists.
:eek: SAY WHAT???? :eek:

Funny, I recall the Boston police fencing in all the DNC protestors under a highway overpass.

Funny, I recall the NYC police beating and arresting hundreds of peaceful RNC protesters...

not very helpful aye? What happened to the godamn issues...who really gives a fack what the supporters of the candidates do?

Maybe you don't, but she did, and fuck you for daring to assume that what this woman did was based on political beliefs and not on her feelings about her son. How dare you? Have you no decency? Her child has died in this war, and you presume that she would trade on that to make political points? When you lose a child, then open your goddamn mouth.

Gimme a break. Her rants, clothing and choice of venue all point to the fact that she is an anti-Bush partisan. Are you that naive?

It's not like she's the first leftist parent to use her loss for political purposes. The liberal media loves publicizing "stories" on parents angry at the Bush administration for "killing their children". Pro-war parents never get coverage.

Well, after all the talk about the humiliation of the criminals at Abu Gharaib being torture, it would apear that teasing and humiliating at child qualifies as torture. And attaccking a small child is not just an attack on a dead tree, it is an attack on a small child. Only scum attack children.

Funny, I recall the NYC police beating and arresting hundreds of peaceful RNC protesters...

not very helpful aye? What happened to the godamn issues...who really gives a fack what the supporters of the candidates do?

HAHAHA. Reading too much MKULTRA lately? Here's a hint: Indymedia is not a reliable source.

Bullshit. You don't express grief by going to a political rally and screaming during a speech. Besides the fact that Bush didn't kill her son, that woman was most likely an anti-Bush partisan long before Gulf II. She probably hated her son for going the military.

This by far is the most inhuman and simply empty-headed thing I've ever seen you post.

I believe people should have the right to protest, but I don't think it's right to come in and disrupts speeches and what not. I wouldn't even do that to Kerry, considering how much I hate him. I thought the normal person has enough common courtesy than be a ass? Oh wait, it's politics.

Gimme a break. Her rants, clothing and choice of venue all point to the fact that she is an anti-Bush partisan. Are you that naive?

It's not like she's the first leftist parent to use her loss for political purposes. The liberal media loves publicizing those "stories", pro-war parents never get coverage.
Remember that idiot whose sun was beheaded by terrorists? He said his son "died for George Bush's sins." They are all the same; they will use any scummy technique they can.

This by far is the most inhuman and simply empty-headed thing I've ever seen you post.

Sadly, that's probably true.

HAHAHA. Reading too much MKULTRA lately? Here's a hint: Indymedia is not a reliable source.


HAHAHA. Been listening to too much talk radio lately?
Here's a hint: Ann Coulter is not a reliable source.

And Bush made her son willingly join the army how?

This by far is the most inhuman and simply empty-headed thing I've ever seen you post.

Hardly. I don't consider overtly political outbursts to be displays of grief.

The liberal media loves publicizing those "stories", pro-war parents never get coverage.

:rolleyes: that's funny, I see the "liberal" media showing off tons more pro-war parents, like, every single freakin day. Nice, intelligent, rational ones. And yet, nearly every anti-war/bush/etc. person shown is some sort of fanatic, moron, or nut job.

Let me get this straight:

Some loser rednecks tear up a little girl's sign, and because of this Kerry eats little religious babies?



All jokes aside, are you REALLY criticizing an entire group because of what a very small extremist part of them did?

Then George Bush is a woman hating abusive pile of shit. Who can't spell Iraq. And wants to nuke the whales. And thinks that homosexuals should all be shot.

Isn't this fun? Now, some advice:

http://www.tetongravity.com/usergalleries/albums/userpics/10030/normal_shut%20up.JPG

They are all the same; they will use any scummy technique they can.

I think your problem is that you believe all conservatives are saints and that liberals are devils. Wake up, it's politics, they're all dirty bastards.

Well, after all the talk about the humiliation of the criminals at Abu Gharaib being torture, it would apear that teasing and humiliating at child qualifies as torture. And attaccking a small child is not just an attack on a dead tree, it is an attack on a small child. Only scum attack children.
Yet you will support a war against Iraq that has resulted in the death and/or dismemberment of many innocent children?

HAHAHA. Been listening to too much talk radio lately?
Here's a hint: Ann Coulter is not a reliable source.

Ann Coulter? Yeah, like I read her raving rants.

I wonder how that NYPD detective is doing... the one who got his head smashed in by "peaceful protestors".

Yet you will support a war against Iraq that has resulted in the death and/or dismemberment of many innocent children?
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Shaddap, that is an idiotic statement. Where in this thread did you get the idea that I support the dismsmberment of chiuldren?

hmm...
Shouldn't the question be what the THREE YEAR OLD CHILD was doing at a political rally anyway? She'd have no idea what was going on, beyond the fact that a pretty little sign she was holding got torn up. What kind of parent involves their 3 year old in politics, exposes them to this kind of action, to possible danger in this way.
I think it's disgusting that her father used her to make his political point, she is far too young to even begin to form any political views. She should never have been put in that position to begin with.

As for it being torture, war crimes even....That is fricken hilarious, do you even know what torture and war crimes are??? How dare you even call this torture in the sense of the INTERNATIONAL CRIME of torture. When you say torture and then talk about Abu Ghraib, you're not just talking about simple bullying or hurting someones feelings. And war crimes...right, so where's the war? THere has to be a war for there to be war crimes...and frankly, a campaign for presidency just doesn't cut it as a war.
Why don't you actually educate yourself before throwing around big words and accusatory rhetoric.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Shaddap, that is an idiotic statement. Where in this thread did you get the idea that I support the dismsmberment of chiuldren?

If Kerry supporters ripping up a sign makes HIM a bastard, then you supporting Iraq-in which children have been horrifid and such-makes you a bastard.

Sorry, but no double standards here

Ann Coulter? Yeah, like I read her raving rants.

I wonder how that NYPD detective is doing... the one who got his head smashed in by "peaceful protestors".




Oh, was that the same one who was ramming into the crowd on his scooter and got pulled off of it and beaten? Sounds like he deserved it.

I wonder how that NYPD detective is doing... the one who got his head smashed in by "peaceful protestors".

I wonder how those couple of protestors are doing... the ones who got pelted to death by "nonlethal" bullets.

Shouldn't the question be what the THREE YEAR OLD CHILD was doing at a political rally anyway? She'd have no idea what was going on, beyond the fact that a pretty little sign she was holding got torn up. What kind of parent involves their 3 year old in politics, exposes them to this kind of action, to possible danger in this way.
I think it's disgusting that her father used her to make his political point, she is far too young to even begin to form any political views. She should never have been put in that position to begin with.

I completely agree.

Oh, was that the same one who was ramming into the crowd on his scooter and got pulled off of it and beaten? Sounds like he deserved it.

You mean "peaceful protestors" charged him because he used his scooter as a barrier.

The same guys that tore this poor little girls sign are the same guys that flew the planes into the World Trade Center, Prentagon and Flight 93. They should all be rounded up, put into the tallest building in the land, burned and shoved out the windows.

Kerry is a war criminal, he commited war crimes against the United States, and every POW who served in Vietnam. Once the election is over and he is run out of town, I think he should be brought up on charges for aiding the enemy during a time of war.

Death to Kerry, and death to all those who support him, especially Thersa Hinny Skerry, the abomination of bitches.

I completely agree.
the answer to the question is obviously republicans -_-

I wonder how those couple of protestors are doing... the ones who got pelted to death by "nonlethal" bullets.

You talking about the anti-Chavez protestors in Venezuela? Oh wait, the fascists used real bullets there.

If a protestor (violent of not) got killed, the media would have been all over it.

I've noticed that Bush supporters tend to bring up silly bullsh*t like this when showing their support for the president. The reason is because when questioned on policy and choices made by the current administration they really don't have a leg to stand on when defending themselves.

I agree that judging a candidate on the actions of a few of his supporters is completey ridiculous. The scary part is that these are the people that vote.

If you don't like a candidate that is fine. If you run around bashing a candidate on what some of his supporters do...you are simply falling into the the pile of complete and utter bs of politics.

Stick the issues. It makes more sense and doesn't leave you standing there looking like an unintelligent a--hole.

The same guys that tore this poor little girls sign are the same guys that flew the planes into the World Trade Center, Prentagon and Flight 93. They should all be rounded up, put into the tallest building in the land, burned and shoved out the windows.

Kerry is a war criminal, he commited war crimes against the United States, and every POW who served in Vietnam. Once the election is over and he is run out of town, I think he should be brought up on charges for aiding the enemy during a time of war.

Death to Kerry, and death to all those who support him, especially Thersa Hinny Skerry, the abomination of bitches.


I hope you don't mind if I use this splendid nugget of ignorance on other forums, it really made my day.

The same guys that tore this poor little girls sign are the same guys that flew the planes into the World Trade Center, Prentagon and Flight 93. They should all be rounded up, put into the tallest building in the land, burned and shoved out the windows.

Kerry is a war criminal, he commited war crimes against the United States, and every POW who served in Vietnam. Once the election is over and he is run out of town, I think he should be brought up on charges for aiding the enemy during a time of war.

Death to Kerry, and death to all those who support him, especially Thersa Hinny Skerry, the abomination of bitches.
I wish the people who tortured that little girl would be identified by their friends and family so that they can be publicy mocked like that little girl was, so that they can suffer like she suffered at the hands of the "Kerry's Huntington Mob".

I wish the people who tortured that little girl would be identified by their friends and family so that they can be publicy mocked like that little girl was, so that they can suffer like she suffered at the hands of the "Kerry's Huntington Mob".

Kerry's Hunington Mob? WTF?

You know, right now we're STILL trying to get rid of Bush's Afghani Mob...

You mean "peaceful protestors" charged him because he used his scooter as a barrier.




Oh yeah, the NYPD Detective took his scooter to a PROTEST to use it as a BARRIER? Sounds pretty farfetched to me. Not to mention several other smartass detectives who were ALSO ramming their scooters into the crowd...

I hope you don't mind if I use this splendid nugget of ignorance on other forums, it really made my day.

Die you Kerry supporter. Your the anit-Christ!!! Submit your name so I can add you to the database pf all of those that must die once we have secured our power in the halls of justice.

You will live (barely) to regret the day you were born on American soil. Your lungs will burn in pain from the piss soaked cross we shove down your throat!!!

Hey dewd, use this one instead, I made it a little more psychotic. Let me know if you like it, I'll do a few more lol.

I've noticed that Bush supporters tend to bring up silly bullsh*t like this when showing their support for the president. The reason is because when questioned on policy and choices made by the current administration they really don't have a leg to stand on when defending themselves.

I agree that judging a candidate on the actions of a few of his supporters is completey ridiculous. The scary part is that these are the people that vote.

If you don't like a candidate that is fine. If you run around bashing a candidate on what some of his supporters do...you are simply falling into the the pile of complete and utter bs of politics.

Stick the issues. It makes more sense and doesn't leave you standing there looking like an unintelligent a--hole.

Wait, didn't the NS leftists get all worked up over the alledged firing of a woman because of her Kerry-Edwards bumper sticker? I saw a lot of big names ranting and raving on that thread. Also, the thread about a woman who got her hair pulled because she was heckling the speaker during a GOP rally.

I'd talk issues but this is not the right thread.

Oh yeah, the NYPD Detective took his scooter to a PROTEST to use it as a BARRIER? Sounds pretty farfetched to me. Not to mention several other smartass detectives who were ALSO ramming their scooters into the crowd...

Um, the use of horses and motorcycles as barricades and crowd control has been a police standard for years.

Die you Kerry supporter. Your the anit-Christ!!! Submit your name so I can add you to the database pf all of those that must die once we have secured our power in the halls of justice.

You will live (barely) to regret the day you were born on American soil. Your lungs will burn in pain from the piss soaked cross we shove down your throat!!!

Hey dewd, use this one instead, I made it a little more psychotic. Let me know if you like it, I'll do a few more lol.

Wow...just, simply, awesome. :D

btw, I love the title of this thread..."crying little girl"...I think she's the next Pat Tillman.

Also, the thread about a woman who got her hair pulled because she was heckling the speaker during a GOP rally.

She also illegally tresspassed into a place she was not invited, and interupted a proceeding to which she was not a party, not invited, and not wanted. Violent protestors deserve no respect or mercy. :sniper:

Um, the use of horses and motorcycles as barricades and crowd control has been a police standard for years.




We're talking scooters, not big motorcycles and horses...A scooter is small.

Die you Kerry supporter. Your the anit-Christ!!! Submit your name so I can add you to the database pf all of those that must die once we have secured our power in the halls of justice.

You will live (barely) to regret the day you were born on American soil. Your lungs will burn in pain from the piss soaked cross we shove down your throat!!!

Hey dewd, use this one instead, I made it a little more psychotic. Let me know if you like it, I'll do a few more lol.
I guess this post demonstrates that you a God fearing Christian?

Wait, didn't the NS leftists get all worked up over the alledged firing of a woman because of her Kerry-Edwards bumper sticker? I saw a lot of big names ranting and raving on that thread. Also, the thread about a woman who got her hair pulled because she was heckling the speaker during a GOP rally.

I'd talk issues but this is not the right thread.

But none of us liberals held Bush personally responsible for the firing. We unanimously agreed that the owner of the business was an asshat though.

We're talking scooters, not big motorcycles and horses...A scooter is small.

If it were so small it wouldn't be a threat to anyone now, would it? LOL.

These allegations of "gangs of police detectives ramming peaceful protestors with their scooters" are so obviously false... typical post-riot propaganda. Police don't use "scooters", and even if they did they don't charge crowds of riled-up protestors with them because inciting the mob is the last thing they want to do. That's police work 101.

Heres what I think: Liberals suck. It doesn't matter who there candidate is, they are always talking about how America sucks and what America should do for me and shit. Democrats just want to slowly turn America into a socialist nation with immoral people who claim that there is no terrorist threat. Oh well ignorance is bliss. O and Michael Moore sucks so much.

This is the compassionate party?

So is this the compassionate party? A video of a Bush/Cheney supporter kicking a girl while she was down. All she was doing was protesting Bush.

http://www.actupny.org/reports/rnc_nyc-kicking.mov

Or how about pulling a woman's hair because she's protesting Bush? Is that the compassionate party?

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040909/capt.pajl10109091829.bush_pajl101.jpg

:rolleyes: :mad:

Well, after all the talk about the humiliation of the criminals at Abu Gharaib being torture, it would apear that teasing and humiliating at child qualifies as torture. And attaccking a small child is not just an attack on a dead tree, it is an attack on a small child. Only scum attack children. :rolleyes: What happened at Abu Gharaib went a little beyond teasing, as for the humiliation, that honor goes to the childs father. A three year old has no political leanings, it's her father who put that sign in her hand and took her to a democratic event. He is responsible for his childs humiliation. He's the one who turned his beautiful three year old daughter into a political tool. He's the one who is to blame for any scarring or lasting trauma this child will endure. As a parent I would never think to use my children thus, it is my responsibility to protect them, not deliberatly place them in a position of risk.

So is this the compassionate party? A video of a Bush/Cheney supporter kicking a girl while she was down. All she was doing was protesting Bush.

http://www.actupny.org/reports/rnc_nyc-kicking.mov


:rolleyes: :mad:
Guess what? We already covered this. There is no contest. On one hand, you have an idiot violent protestor who tresspassed, on the other hand, a little girl tortured by Kerry supporters. :rolleyes: :mad:

So is this the compassionate party? A video of a Bush/Cheney supporter kicking a girl while she was down. All she was doing was protesting Bush.

http://www.actupny.org/reports/rnc_nyc-kicking.mov


:rolleyes: :mad:

Yeah, that guy is an ass. But she was trespassing, not "just protesting Bush".

little girl tortured by Kerry supporters. :rolleyes: :mad:

Tortured??? Hahaha! My ass she was tortured!

So...it's ok to kick a woman when she's participating in a non-violent protest, but it's not ok to rip a sign a little girl is holding? Or how about pulling a woman's hair because she was yelling at Bush? She wasn't using violence either. The old republican jackass was using violence.

Talk about hypocrocy! :rolleyes: :mad:

:rolleyes: What happened at Abu Gharaib went a little beyond teasing, as for the humiliation, that honor goes to the childs father. A three year old has no political leanings, it's her father who put that sign in her hand and took her to a democratic event. He is responsible for his childs humiliation. He's the one who turned his beautiful three year old daughter into a political tool. He's the one who is to blame for any scarring or lasting trauma this child will endure. As a parent I would never think to use my children thus, it is my responsibility to protect them, not deliberatly place them in a position of risk.

Let's blame the victim, shall we?

Tortured??? Hahaha! My ass she was tortured!

So...it's ok to kick a woman when she's participating in a non-violent protest, but it's not ok to rip a sign a little girl is holding? Or how about pulling a woman's hair because she was yelling at Bush? She wasn't using violence either. The old republican jackass was using violence.

Talk about hypocrocy! :rolleyes: :mad:
according to Liberals, and Liberal media, public humiliation is torture. See Abu Gharaib. :)

This is fackin hilarious. We're arguing over whether liberals or conservatives are nastier people.

When it comes to politics, we're ALL evil bastards.

Yeah, that guy is an ass. But she was trespassing, not "just protesting Bush".

So...it's now trespassing when you're in a public place?

Besides...I don't care if she was trespassing. She didn't assault anyone, but that old man did, and that makes it ok?

So...it's now trespassing when you're in a public place?

Besides...I don't care if she was trespassing. She didn't assault anyone, but that old man did, and that makes it ok?
Inside of a rented convention center in a political event she was not invited too is not a public place. She was tresspassing. She deserved to go to jail.

You know what? This topic is stupid.

WHO CARES.

Is anyone else sick of this partisan crap thats dividing and KILLING the united states? Whatever happened to "united we stand, divided we fall?" Is it just too much temptation, too much fun to blame and malign and demonize 50% of America in an endless, pointless game controlled by the media and political campaigners?

Guess so.

Anyway, I could care less about some girl at some political nonsense in some town about some politician about some party about some sign.

How many little girls starved to death, or were enslaved, beaten or raped in other countries TODAY? More than 1, do you think? If so, maybe thats something a bit more weighty, something more worthy of getting worked up and emotional about than this crap the US media spoonfeeds everyone?

Hell, maybe even the millions who'll die from STRESS caused by this stupid dickfight between the "liberals" (who aren't liberal) and "conservatives" (who aren't conservative) each year is more important. Maybe even, the war on terror. Or the economy. Or the increasingly fat and stupid state of our population. Increasing debt. Decreasing productivity and overall wealth.

All that, and you people have bulging blood vessels over this stupid Politicians+Babies cliche crap. Well, wake up, people, thats all I gotta say, get out there and do something.

/soapbox

So...it's now trespassing when you're in a public place?

Besides...I don't care if she was trespassing. She didn't assault anyone, but that old man did, and that makes it ok?

Did I say it was OK? No.

The RNC venue was private property, and the event was by invite-only. Therefore, she was trespassing and should have been arrested.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Perrien
The same guys that tore this poor little girls sign are the same guys that flew the planes into the World Trade Center, Prentagon and Flight 93. They should all be rounded up, put into the tallest building in the land, burned and shoved out the windows.

Kerry is a war criminal, he commited war crimes against the United States, and every POW who served in Vietnam. Once the election is over and he is run out of town, I think he should be brought up on charges for aiding the enemy during a time of war.

Death to Kerry, and death to all those who support him, especially Thersa Hinny Skerry, the abomination of bitches.


I hope you don't mind if I use this splendid nugget of ignorance on other forums, it really made my day.

I wonder if Perrien will be requesting the repealing of the Patriot act if Kerry gets elected?

You know what? This topic is stupid.

WHO CARES.

Is anyone else sick of this partisan crap thats dividing and KILLING the united states? Whatever happened to "united we stand, divided we fall?" Is it just too much temptation, too much fun to blame and malign and demonize 50% of America in an endless, pointless game controlled by the media and political campaigners?

Guess so.

Anyway, I could care less about some girl at some political nonsense in some town about some politician about some party about some sign.

How many little girls starved to death, or were enslaved, beaten or raped in other countries TODAY? More than 1, do you think? If so, maybe thats something a bit more weighty, something more worthy of getting worked up and emotional about than this crap the US media spoonfeeds everyone?

Hell, maybe even the millions who'll die from STRESS caused by this stupid dickfight between the "liberals" (who aren't liberal) and "conservatives" (who aren't conservative) each year is more important. Maybe even, the war on terror. Or the economy. Or the increasingly fat and stupid state of our population. Increasing debt. Decreasing productivity and overall wealth.

All that, and you people have bulging blood vessels over this stupid Politicians+Babies cliche crap. Well, wake up, people, thats all I gotta say, get out there and do something.

/soapbox


The first intelligent thing said...unfortunately, this is an unintelligent thread. Sorry, but only raging partisan idiocy is allowed here.

I wonder if Perrien will be requesting the repealing of the Patriot act if Kerry gets elected?

LMFAO! :D

Inside of a rented convention center in a political event she was not invited too is not a public place. She was tresspassing. She deserved to go to jail.

And that republican jackass deserved to go to jail for assault.

And that republican jackass deserved to go to jail for assault.
Much like the tortures of that little girl.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Perrien
The same guys that tore this poor little girls sign are the same guys that flew the planes into the World Trade Center, Prentagon and Flight 93. They should all be rounded up, put into the tallest building in the land, burned and shoved out the windows.

Kerry is a war criminal, he commited war crimes against the United States, and every POW who served in Vietnam. Once the election is over and he is run out of town, I think he should be brought up on charges for aiding the enemy during a time of war.

Death to Kerry, and death to all those who support him, especially Thersa Hinny Skerry, the abomination of bitches.


What the hell is this? This looks like death threats. I have copied and pasted this and I am going to turn it into the proper authorities. There is no excuse for this at all. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Much like the tortures of that little girl.

Typical republican spin. She gets a little upset when her sign is ripped and you call it torture.

:rolleyes:

So, using your logic, what happened in Abu Ghraib wasn't torture. It was murder then.

:rolleyes:

And that republican jackass deserved to go to jail for assault.

Agreed, along with that Democrat bitch. :)

Much like the tortures of that little girl.


You have a strange definition of *torture*. I guess when the CIA piles Iraqis into naked human piles...that's just interrogation.

What the hell is this? This looks like death threats. I have copied and pasted this and I am going to turn it into the proper authorities. There is no excuse for this at all. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
It makes me wonder just how fanatical people can become. There is zero need for that kind of material on these boards. :(

Typical republican spin. She gets a little upset when her sign is ripped and you call it torture.

:rolleyes:

So, using your logic, what happened in Abu Ghraib wasn't torture. It was murder then.

:rolleyes:
You have a lot of trouble following along in a discussion, don't you. According to liberal logic, humiliating someone is torture. Therefore, when several adults humilliate a small child, the sick bastiches are torturing her. Read it until you understand the sentiment. :rolleyes:

It makes me wonder just how fanatical people can become. There is zero need for that kind of material on these boards. :(

Are you calling me fanatical? Turning in death threats to the proper authorities is fanatical????

Are you calling me fanatical? Turning in death threats to the proper authorities is fanatical????
How exactly wass that a death threat?

You have a lot of trouble following along in a discussion, don't you. According to liberal logic, humiliating someone is torture. Therefore, when several adults humilliate a small child, the sick bastiches are torturing her. Read it until you understand the sentiment. :rolleyes:

So...you don't call this torture?

http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/abughraib2.An Iraqi detainee appears to be restrained after havign suffered injuries to both legs from dog bites at Abu Ghraib.

http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/new-toture6.jpg
How about threatening a man with an attack dog? That's not torture?

http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/new-toture2.jpg
How about punching detainees?

http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/abuse1.jpg
How about a woman dragging a man around with a dog leash around his neck. That's not torture?

http://www.antiwar.com/photos/perm/torture1.jpg
How about wearing a hood with electrodes on your fingers. That's not torture?

If you don't think this is torture, then you've got a really sick and demented mind.

:mad:

How exactly wass that a death threat?

This isn't a death threat?????

"Death to Kerry, and death to all those who support him, especially Thersa Hinny Skerry, the abomination of bitches."

You are one sick individual!

Edited for clarification. :rolleyes:

Are you calling me fanatical? Turning in death threats to the proper authorities is fanatical????
No, I was referring to the post by Perrein. I was responding to your resolve.

This isn't a death threat?????

"Death to Kerry, and death to all those who support him, especially Thersa Hinny Skerry, the abomination of bitches."

You are one sick individual!
I am now reporting you to the proper authorities.

I am now reporting you to the proper authorities.

Haha. I was quoting that Perrin person. Any idiot can see that.

"Death to Kerry, and death to all those who support him, especially Thersa Hinny Skerry, the abomination of bitches."

Kinda funny how he attacks the wife. I haven't heard anyone attack Laura Bush yet...so I'll start.

Laura Bush looks like a lizard. :p

Haha. I was quoting that Perrin person. Any idiot can see that.
Apparently that is why you could. You may leave my thread now. Go on, bye.

Kinda funny how he attacks the wife. I haven't heard anyone attack Laura Bush yet...so I'll start.

Laura Bush looks like a lizard. :p

He's a typical republican. He hates women who have an opinion and a mind of her own.

Well this was an interesting thread but it proves nothing but intolerance and a healthy quantity of dare I say hate. :(

Go on, bye.

You first.

Well this was an interesting thread but it proves nothing but intolerance and a healthy quantity of dare I say hate. :(

I'm not hateful. I just get easily irritated by stupid people.

I'm not hateful. I just get easily irritated by stupid people.
I didn't say you were did i? I was kind of referring to some other posters.

I didn't say you were did i? I was kind of referring to some other posters.

Oh. Sorry.

It's good to see the same liberals who defend Saddam, who defend the criminals in Abu Gharaib are the same idiots who cheer the torture of little girls.

It's good to see the same liberals who defend Saddam, who defend the criminals in Abu Gharaib are the same idiots who cheer the torture of little girls.


Which criminals in Abu Gharaib? The suspected criminals (prisoners) or the known sex assaulters?

Which criminals in Abu Gharaib? The suspected criminals (prisoners) or the known sex assaulters?
That is an idiotic thing to say, those people were not suspected criminals, they were criminals. The torturers who attacked that little girl are criminals. You are quite possibly a criminal for supporting the Abu Gharaib scum and the scum that attack children.

That is an idiotic thing to say, those people were not suspected criminals, they were criminals. The torturers who attacked that little girl are criminals. You are quite possibly a criminal for supporting the Abu Gharaib scum and the scum that attack children.


I ask you again, which Abu Ghariab scum? The ones being sodomized, or the one's holding the leashes and taking pictures?

Are you afraid to condemn the soldiers who attached electrodes to the genitals of the prisoners? You seem to be dodging it.


btw, I never defended the idiots who tore up the girl's sign.

It's good to see the same liberals who defend Saddam, who defend the criminals in Abu Gharaib are the same idiots who cheer the torture of little girls.
Yeah, because someone has liberal views, they suddenly agree with everything said by liberals. Yeah, and I'm sure all Republicans want to ban gay marriage and support the war with Iraq. Yes, the president is Republican, so ALL Republicans have to agree with everything he says, and all liberals have to disagree with everything he says. It seems to be the point your making... :headbang:

I say again, those people were not suspected criminals, they were criminals. Can you prove they were sodomized?

I say again, those people were not suspected criminals, they were criminals.

I'm sure you know for a fact that EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM was a combatant, that NONE of them were just picked up by the soldiers for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Can you prove they were sodomized?

LOL!

Tearing up a little girls' political sign (which her daddy gave her) and laughing at her: Bad



Attaching electrodes to SUSPECTED criminals' genitals: Worse

This is the compassionate party? What is more compassionate than stealing a sign from a small child, destroying it, and laughing at her sadness? Kerry supporters unite against the danger of small children.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040916/480/wvrs10309162250

And she didn't illegally trespass onto the convention floor. She deserved it right?

If that had been my little girl the headline would have read "Angry father goes on rampage and kills many kerry protesters.

If that had been my little girl the headline would have read "Angry father goes on rampage and kills many kerry protesters.


And then the headlines would be "Conservatives suddenly against death penalty!"

Tearing up a little girls' political sign (which her daddy gave her) and laughing at her: Bad



Attaching electrodes to SUSPECTED criminals' genitals: Worse

I think those are both bad things. But I think going after the little girl was worse.

And then the headlines would be "Conservatives suddenly against death penalty!"
lmao

Or perhaps "Bush gives first ever death row pardon"

I think those are both bad things. But I think going after the little girl was worse.



That's because you are conservative, and above all, a (slightly) overprotective parent, and that makes you think differently than I...


At least they did'nt attach electrodes to her genitals...

That's because you are conservative, and above all, a (slightly) overprotective parent, and that makes you think differently than I...


At least they did'nt attach electrodes to her genitals...

Every liberal I have ever met tells me I am a conservative.
Every Conservative I have ever met tells me I am a liberal. lol

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/sucks9.gif

Honestly, this has become one big hate fest. You're ALL retarded.

Some of Kerry's supporters are jackasses. We all understand that. Not ONE person has disagreed that the guys who tore up the sign were jerks.

Soem of Bush's supporters are jackasses. Unfortunatly, we don't seem to all understand that. SO I'll write it clearly.

SOME OF BUSH'S SUPPORTERS ARE JACKASSES

Better?

While you should expect some sort of retaliation for heckling at an opposing parties meeting place, you shouldn't feel afraid to do it either.

The only violent outburst that the Democrats can provide against a Democratic Protestor is the one where the Young Republican kicks the protestor. I on the other hand can cite so many several instances where Republicans who go to protest get smacked with signs, get physically attacked, get cups of pig blood thrown on them (this also happened when soldiers returned from Vietnam).

As for the story of the woman who went to a Bush rally to protest (with her husband), she trespassed after being told that the area where she was standing was off-limits. She refused to leave and got arrested, that's the law. She protested the war, and got heckled back by the Bush supporters there, they didn't attack her, or rip up her shirt.

Violence from either side is unacceptable, but it seems that the Democrats seem to feel that they are the victims no matter what happens.

[QUOTE=Samarika]That's because you are conservative, and above all, a (slightly) overprotective parent, and that makes you think differently than I...

[QUOTE]

Defending your child from an savage mob is not being overprotective.
and by the way I am not a fan of bush. I voted for him for gov. of texas and was not happy with the job he did. I did not vote for him for pres. I know you did not call me a fan of Bush, But i just thought I should say that.

Defending your child from an savage mob is not being overprotective.
and by the way I am not a fan of bush. I voted for him for gov. of texas and was not happy with the job he did. I did not vote for him for pres. I know you did not call me a fan of Bush, But i just thought I should say that.


A MODERATE!!!!! :D And I thought they had all turned into either hippie/vegetarian/SUV-burning/feminists or gaybashing/racist/gun-toting/hillbilly/fascists. :p

[QUOTE=Samarika]That's because you are conservative, and above all, a (slightly) overprotective parent, and that makes you think differently than I...

[QUOTE]

Defending your child from an savage mob is not being overprotective.
and by the way I am not a fan of bush. I voted for him for gov. of texas and was not happy with the job he did. I did not vote for him for pres. I know you did not call me a fan of Bush, But i just thought I should say that.



Savage Mob? They tore up her sign...And laughed at her...If you think that's savage, what do you think of the Abu Ghraib tortures?

Abu Gharib is regurgitated so many times here it reads like the New York Times! LOL!

Abu Gharib is regurgitated so many times here it reads like the New York Times! LOL!


This business of a girl's sign being torn up is regurgitated so many times here it reads like Fox News! LOL!

I do think what they did was wrong, and that trying to destroy anyones' ability to voice their opinion is wrong...Even if the little girl was manipulated into doing it by her father.

This business of a girl's sign being torn up is regurgitated so many times here it reads like Fox News! LOL!

Not nearly as often as that thread alledging some woman got fired because of a Kerry bumper sticker... or the hair-pulling thread. All of them are non-stories.

P.S. Only kids copy other peoples' posts.

Savage Mob? They tore up her sign...And laughed at her...If you think that's savage, what do you think of the Abu Ghraib tortures?

Unforgivebal comes to mind.
But that does not mean that what was done to that girl was ok.
Belive me I bitched alot bout the Abu Graib tortures. And I think that Bush is responable for it. But that does not change the fact that what happened to that girl was very wrong.
Only the greatest of cowards preys upon children.

Not nearly as often as that thread alledging some woman got fired because of a Kerry bumper sticker... or the hair-pulling thread. All of them are non-stories.

P.S. Only kids copy other peoples' posts.

And only idiots pretend that all people in their political affiliation are saints...

When you compare liberals and conservatives...they're all evil bastards when it comes to politics, and will stoop to any level to ensure their candidate gets elected.

It goes for both sides. You try to tell me that Republicans are saints and Democrats are evil. You say only Democrats heckle people at rallies. You are so closeminded that you'll denounce anything to the contrary as made-up, and go digging for more litte useless anecdotes to show that it's all liberals who tear signs and shout obscenities.

You have your Fox News and talk radio, we have our CNN and Washington Post. You have your Ann Coulters and Michael Savages, we have our Al Frankens and Michael Moores. I can debate issues with you, but I'm tired of debating whether liberals or conservatives are more aggressive at rallies.

Wake up, politics is called "shit-slinging" for a reason. And in that respect, Republicans and Democrats are no different.

What are you smoking? I didn't say Republicans are saints and Democrats are evil, and I am well-aware of the bullshit that goes along with partisan politics. Learn to read and quit mixing me up with all the other partisans here.

posted by Chodolo

Kinda funny how he attacks the wife. I haven't heard anyone attack Laura Bush yet...so I'll start.

Laura Bush looks like a lizard.

How dare you !!! I am telling PETA , that was just so unfair to lizards !

I think Laura Bush is a replicant. I've seen video of her grabbing eggs out of boiling water.

I think Laura Bush is a replicant. I've seen video of her grabbing eggs out of boiling water.



Replicant?

Synthetic Human.

Good god, have you never seen Blade Runner?

Get thee to a Blockbuster posthaste!

Gimme a break. Her rants, clothing and choice of venue all point to the fact that she is an anti-Bush partisan. Are you that naive?

It's not like she's the first leftist parent to use her loss for political purposes. The liberal media loves publicizing "stories" on parents angry at the Bush administration for "killing their children". Pro-war parents never get coverage.

Well, I have a son and if he was killed in Bush's war of choice, I might be a little partisan from that point on too. Or you think she has no right to protest her son being killed in Bush's war of choice?

Sweet shitballs, this is still going? The guy used his daughter as a shield (kinda underhanded, but not really a big deal. The kid didn't know what was going on, just wanted to play with daddy so really he had every right) and some asshole took the sign anyway. Honestly, the taking of signs (both sides do it) is childish, and taking the sign out of the kids hands was assholish. What do you guys want, blood? It sucks, they shouldn't have done it.

Comparing it to a beating or a firing, well....it's not really the same, is it? What are you all hoping for here? What is it you want? WHY IS THIS STILL GOING????? The guy's an asshole, we get it. We agree.

EDIT: Anyone else disturbed by the fact that this shit has gone twice the number of pages as the one discussing Kerry's plan???????????

Sweet shitballs, this is still going? The guy used his daughter as a shield (kinda underhanded, but not really a big deal. The kid didn't know what was going on, just wanted to play with daddy so really he had every right) and some asshole took the sign anyway. Honestly, the taking of signs (both sides do it) is childish, and taking the sign out of the kids hands was assholish. What do you guys want, blood? It sucks, they shouldn't have done it.

Comparing it to a beating or a firing, well....it's not really the same, is it? What are you all hoping for here? What is it you want? WHY IS THIS STILL GOING????? The guy's an asshole, we get it. We agree.

EDIT: Anyone else disturbed by the fact that this shit has gone twice the number of pages as the one discussing Kerry's plan???????????

Examples of hard numbers, complex sentences and Kerry actually talking about the issues frightens and confuses the right.

This has got to be one of the saddest and outragous things that has happened in this campaign.

Those people should be ashamed of themselves for doing that.

That poor little girl.

Seriously? This is sadder and more outrageous than the invasion of Iraq?

Only the greatest of cowards preys upon children.

when did lockheed invent the missile that cards you before killing you?

This is the compassionate party? What is more compassionate than stealing a sign from a small child, destroying it, and laughing at her sadness? Kerry supporters unite against the danger of small children.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040916/480/wvrs10309162250

And she didn't illegally trespass onto the convention floor. She deserved it right?

HAHAHAHAHAHA

sorry bit of a sadist

Seriously? This is sadder and more outrageous than the invasion of Iraq?
or better yet
pulling down a woman half your age by her hair and kicking her while shes down

Seriously? This is sadder and more outrageous than the invasion of Iraq?

Yes it is more outrageous. She may be a little girl but she should be heard too.

As for Iraq, it was about time it occured but I'm not going to turn this into a debate on that issue.

Those people that did that have no shame and that poor girl was terrorized. The hypocracy of the left has been shown.

I'm going to paint with a very broad brush here, but sometimes you have to in order to get your point across.

Point 1: If you are comparing what happened to this little girl at a political rally with anything--anything at all that has happened in Iraq or some other war zone, you're an asshole and someone ought to pop you in the mouth for it.

Point 2: If you are stating that a person who has lost a child in a war--no matter what political affiliation--is upset with a political party for partisan purposes (and there are plenty of people just as pissed with the Democrats for going along with the farce in Iraq) and is not upset about the death child, then you're an asshole and someone ought to pop you in the mouth for it.

Point 3: If you're going to argue that the actions of one group of political supporters in a highly charged, emotion-laden election year somehow has the moral high ground when it comes to this kind of shit, then you're a liar and a moron and an asshole and someone ought to pop you in the mouth for it.

Yes it is more outrageous. She may be a little girl but she should be heard too.

As for Iraq, it was about time it occured but I'm not going to turn this into a debate on that issue.

Those people that did that have no shame and that poor girl was terrorized. The hypocracy of the left has been shown.
Sooooo what happened to this little girl, is "more outrageous than the invasion of Iraq"?

http://www.ccmep.org/usbombingwatch/2003.htm#5/16/03

When you finished looking through the files perhaps you may have gained a better insight to the word "outrageous"?

Am I the only one who has noticed how completely pissed the guy in the front looks?
So why is no-one calling this a "Bud supporters mock crying little girl" thread and demanding that all Bud drinkers and management be drowned in a vat?

One thing I can't understand is why is her father still holding her up there? Personally, if it was me, I would tell the shits to get fucked, and then leave. It would not be worth the obvious discomfort my daughter is in to stay. She'd be much more important to me than any stupid protest. Why has no-one castigated the father? True it's dispicable to torment a young girl, but he delibrately put her in that position and used her, knowing full well that they would get extremely negative comments at the very least and physical confrontation more probable. And then he stayed.
Why?
To get on TV and make a political statement. In the hope that this will make Kerry look bad. At the expense of his daughter. At her age, she could be quite traumatised by this. And it was delibrately done by her father.
If the Kerry supporters actions qualify as child abuse, then so does this.
Bullshit. You don't express grief by going to a political rally and screaming during a speech. Besides the fact that Bush didn't kill her son, that woman was most likely an anti-Bush partisan long before Gulf II. She probably hated her son for going the military.
I guess the father must be anti-Kerry from long time back and hates his daughter, eh? Surely you don't express your dislike of a Presidential candidate by dragging your daughter along and delibrately using her as bait for potential and highly likely physical confrontation unless you really hate her. :rolleyes:

Funny how someone managed to use this pic as further 'proof' of the liberal biasis of America. I'm scratching my head over that one.

Well, it could be worse. She could have been arrested (http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4500390,00.html), like this woman was.



Classy--the woman is mad because her son was killed in a needless war, and Bush supporters chant over her grief with "Four More Years."

Let me say this as well--neither group is on the side of angels here, but let's not act like the rude behavior is solely the domain of the Democratic party, okay? You just come off looking like a partisan schmuck.

Bullshit, I signed on that dotted line just like her son did. If he didnt want to take a chance to defend our country he should not have joined the military.

If I died in Iraq would my parrents blame bush? NO they would blame Sadam! Or the terrorists who are trying to keep us from establishing peace.

Bullshit, I signed on that dotted line just like her son did. If he didnt want to take a chance to defend our country he should not have joined the military.

If I died in Iraq would my parrents blame bush? NO they would blame Sadam! Or the terrorists who are trying to keep us from establishing peace.
or blame the iraqi nationalists who are fighting to kick your asses out? meh

Bullshit, I signed on that dotted line just like her son did. If he didnt want to take a chance to defend our country he should not have joined the military.

If I died in Iraq would my parrents blame bush? NO they would blame Sadam! Or the terrorists who are trying to keep us from establishing peace.
And that somehow negates her grief? What your parents would or would not do is irrelevant. Her grief is hers and hers alone, and don't you dare question it.

This is frippen hilarious. Now I'll go find something about Republicans beating up a gay man, then you'll find something about Democrats attacking an NRA speaker, then I'll find something about Republicans attacking a doctor at an abortion clinic, then you'll find something...it could go on for hours.

I really really think you're missing the frippen point.

As I see it, the issue isn't what Kerry supporters did to some sign, it's more a case of 'why did the little girl's father give her such a sign?'.

She's clearly not old enough to have ANY idea what the sign says or what it means. It's exploitation on her Father's part. It reminds me very much of the crowds over here in Britain who bring their children along to throw stones at (eg) the police van transporting Maxine Carr. Or the idiots from Portsmouth who claimed that their children were crying because they were 'scared of paedophiles' and not, as it seemed to me, because they had been dragged into the middle of a riot started by their illiterate parents and older siblings.

Toddlers and politics don't mix.

Bullshit, I signed on that dotted line just like her son did. If he didnt want to take a chance to defend our country he should not have joined the military.

If I died in Iraq would my parrents blame bush? NO they would blame Sadam! Or the terrorists who are trying to keep us from establishing peace.


Bush sent them to a war based on outright lies. Lies that once revealed as lies, still passed thru their lips on several occasions. The entire Bush regime is responsible for her sons death. If your brainwashed parents can't see that then that is their problem.

So what I see here is that some on the left believe that the torture of small children is somehow forgivable if done for a good cause (Kerry supporting).

Democrats accused of ripping Bush signs
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040917-010155-8041r.htm

By Robert Stacy McCain
THE WASHINGTON TIMES


A West Virginia man said yesterday that Democrats stole his family's Bush-Cheney campaign signs at an event featuring Democratic vice presidential candidate Sen. John Edwards.
"They just pounced on us," said Phil Parlock, who took his 11-year-old son, Alex, and 3-year-old daughter, Sophia, to the Democratic rally at Tri-State Airport in Huntington, W.Va.
Sophia became briefly famous yesterday when an Associated Press photo showing her in tears after Democrats tore her sign to pieces was posted on Matt Drudge's Web site, www.drudgereport.com.

"She was crying; they were pushing and shoving her," said Mr. Parlock, a Huntington real estate agent. "She was scared."
Sophia is the youngest of 10 children in a proudly patriotic family. The oldest two Parlock children, a 22-year-old daughter and a 21-year-old son, are members of the West Virginia Army National Guard, and a third Parlock — who recently turned 18 — will be sworn into the guard tomorrow, Mr. Parlock said.
The Parlocks went to Mr. Edwards' airport rally yesterday "to support the president," Mr. Parlock said, and brought nine Bush-Cheney signs with them.
"We stood there quietly while Senator Edwards went through the receiving line," he said. Then, as the North Carolina Democrat prepared to leave, Mr. Parlock said, "I took out a few Bush-Cheney signs, gave one to Alex, and Sophia and I held up one jointly."
Immediately, he said, the family was set upon by supporters of Mr. Edwards and Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John Kerry — "mostly the painters union guys" — who "started stealing my signs." Soon, "old women and college students joined in the fracas," said Mr. Parlock, describing himself as "strictly a volunteer, grass-roots supporter" of the president. Mr. Parlock ran unsuccessfully for his local school board this year.
After the family returned home from the rally yesterday, he said, a friend called to tell him about the AP photo on the Drudge site. "In the picture, you can see one of the painters union guys has a piece of one of my signs in his hand."
A call to the Kerry-Edwards campaign last night was not returned.
Anti-war demonstrators have complained in recent weeks that they have been manhandled by security agents at Bush-Cheney campaign events.

I wouldn't trust anything printed in the Washington Times.

Democrats accused of ripping Bush signs
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040917-010155-8041r.htm

By Robert Stacy McCain
THE WASHINGTON TIMES


A West Virginia man said yesterday that Democrats stole his family's Bush-Cheney campaign signs at an event featuring Democratic vice presidential candidate Sen. John Edwards.
"They just pounced on us," said Phil Parlock, who took his 11-year-old son, Alex, and 3-year-old daughter, Sophia, to the Democratic rally at Tri-State Airport in Huntington, W.Va.
Sophia became briefly famous yesterday when an Associated Press photo showing her in tears after Democrats tore her sign to pieces was posted on Matt Drudge's Web site, www.drudgereport.com.

"She was crying; they were pushing and shoving her," said Mr. Parlock, a Huntington real estate agent. "She was scared."
Sophia is the youngest of 10 children in a proudly patriotic family. The oldest two Parlock children, a 22-year-old daughter and a 21-year-old son, are members of the West Virginia Army National Guard, and a third Parlock — who recently turned 18 — will be sworn into the guard tomorrow, Mr. Parlock said.
The Parlocks went to Mr. Edwards' airport rally yesterday "to support the president," Mr. Parlock said, and brought nine Bush-Cheney signs with them.
"We stood there quietly while Senator Edwards went through the receiving line," he said. Then, as the North Carolina Democrat prepared to leave, Mr. Parlock said, "I took out a few Bush-Cheney signs, gave one to Alex, and Sophia and I held up one jointly."
Immediately, he said, the family was set upon by supporters of Mr. Edwards and Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John Kerry — "mostly the painters union guys" — who "started stealing my signs." Soon, "old women and college students joined in the fracas," said Mr. Parlock, describing himself as "strictly a volunteer, grass-roots supporter" of the president. Mr. Parlock ran unsuccessfully for his local school board this year.
After the family returned home from the rally yesterday, he said, a friend called to tell him about the AP photo on the Drudge site. "In the picture, you can see one of the painters union guys has a piece of one of my signs in his hand."
A call to the Kerry-Edwards campaign last night was not returned.
Anti-war demonstrators have complained in recent weeks that they have been manhandled by security agents at Bush-Cheney campaign events.

My biggest beef sorry to say: Why is the father using his children to hold and spread his beliefs?

He gave a 11 yr and 3 year old signs that they didn't want I bet. He just wanted to spread his own belief.
How dare he use his children!
Support the President with nine signs? There were only 3 of them?

While the tearing up the signs is wrong what is with this guy. What kind of father does this to his children?

My biggest beef sorry to say: Why is the father using his children to hold and spread his beliefs?

He gave a 11 yr and 3 year old signs that they didn't want I bet. He just wanted to spread his own belief.
How dare he use his children!
Support the President with nine signs? There were only 3 of them?

While the tearing up the signs is wrong what is with this guy. What kind of father does this to his children?
what would be hilarious is if the kerry supporters took their signs and gave them suckers so they were all happy and their dad would be pissed and take away their suckers and look like the bad guy

or blame the iraqi nationalists who are fighting to kick your asses out? meh




"No no no, see, "Patriotic Nationalists" are US, or groups & people we SUPPORT...People who oppose us or those groups are "Terrorists"...You've GOT to learn the difference..."

Every country involved lost millions or thousands of men and blew almost all their cash on the war sending many into bankruptcy. Well I suppose East Germany did the best afterwards

Every country involved lost millions or thousands of men and blew almost all their cash on the war sending many into bankruptcy. Well I suppose East Germany did the best afterwards




Excuse me, but you may be looking for the other thread, about World War 2 and who did better...This is the one about the evil Kerry supporters making a tiny Republican shill cry...

Excuse me, but you may be looking for the other thread, about World War 2 and who did better...This is the one about the evil Kerry supporters making a tiny Republican shill cry...
Actually she is justthe daughter of a republican she is stil a independant. Being used by a rtepublican her father. To spread is message "support the President"

The point of the thread is actually that some Kerry supporters are so rabid that they attack children. They need to be put down.

Those morons shouldn't have done what they did anyway. They were peacefully there. They were not causing a rucus. However, the guys that decended on them should be charged with inciting to riot. They had no business doing what they did.

What the hell? This is so ridiculous I'm tempted to think you may be attempting to criticize the Republicans through subtle satirical irony...

Was this a national story in the US or something? Because you can't possibly come to these wild conclusions based purely on the little write-up on Yahoo.

1. The sign is not the little girls, its her fathers.
2. The girl is three years old. I highly doubt she possesses autonomous political opinions.
3. Three year old girls cry ALL THE TIME. I have siblings.
4. They tore up a sign. Ouch.

And of course, I am challenging the supposition that this incident was a legitimate reason to chastise the people who tore up the sign.
To extrapolate this into generalizations regarding Kerry, Edwards, or the Democratic party; or leftists in general!

Moron.

The point of the thread is actually that some Kerry supporters are so rabid that they attack children. They need to be put down.

Only if you let us put down the Bush supporters that are so rabid that they'd physically attack protesters.

Wake the fack up MunkeBrain, Republicans are just as vicious as Democrats.


NOW LISTEN: If the father had made the little girl hold a "Kerry" sign, and some Bush supporters tore it up and *terrorized* her, what would you have said when some liberal started a thread: "Bush supporters mock crying little girl"?

You would have said, "The father shouldn't have put her there, liberals are just as mean as conservatives"...wouldn't you?

Wake the fack up MunkeBrain, Republicans are just as vicious as Democrats.


NOW LISTEN: If the father had made the little girl hold a "Kerry" sign, and some Bush supporters tore it up and *terrorized* her, what would you have said when some liberal started a thread: "Bush supporters mock crying little girl"?

You would have said, "The father shouldn't have put her there, liberals are just as mean as conservatives"...wouldn't you?
oh please, he wouldn't even get that far, he would sit there and pretend it didnt happen, like the guy earlier in this thread or the other one said there have benn no incidents of abuse of protestors by republicans

Wake the fack up MunkeBrain, Republicans are just as vicious as Democrats.


NOW LISTEN: If the father had made the little girl hold a "Kerry" sign, and some Bush supporters tore it up and *terrorized* her, what would you have said when some liberal started a thread: "Bush supporters mock crying little girl"?

You would have said, "The father shouldn't have put her there, liberals are just as mean as conservatives"...wouldn't you?

I would condemn it wholeheartedly and I'm a republican. I condemn this act wholeheartedly because they weren't doing anything according to the article. Just holding up signs.

I would condemn it wholeheartedly and I'm a republican. I condemn this act wholeheartedly because they weren't doing anything according to the article. Just holding up signs.

Then you're a rational person who is able to take themselves out of the politics and look at it objectively.

I'm waiting for the loudmouths in this thread to speak up on this.

Let me see if I can put all of this in perspective.....

This little girl goes to a Democrat rally and has a Cheney/Bush sign taken out of her hand by someone who could possibly be pro Kerry. The girl is traumatized and ends up crying. Republicans say bad Democrats.

So she eventually grows up and ends up realizing that she doesn't like the Republicans after all. She goes to a Republican convention and starts yelling and next thing you know, some much older Republican dressed in a suit is pulling her by the hair and assaulting her. Republicans say she was trespassing and "deserved" it.

Okay. The picture is much clearer now. Thanks!!!

Those morons shouldn't have done what they did anyway. They were peacefully there. They were not causing a rucus. However, the guys that decended on them should be charged with inciting to riot. They had no business doing what they did.
Thank you, attacking a small child and her father for doing nothing more than holding a sign is animalistic and rabid.

You gotta realize, this is Huntington, West Virginia. Home of Marshall University. The only Div. 1 school I know of that will let drunk rednecks in to watch a football game, let them leave at halftime to get drunker, and let them back in for the start of the third quarter. This behavior isn't surprising.

As a Marshall University graduate and fan, screw you.

Apparently you've never been to Morgantown before....where throwing trashcans, tipping ambulances, and injuring players is the norm....during the game that is. After the game its burning couches.

And don't get me started on the behavior of Redhawk fans in Oxford, Ohio. And I suppose I also shouldn't mention anything about the disgusting behavior encountered in Columbus last weekend. Of course, the Rocket fans in Toledo are no better civilized.

The football tradition at Marshall is followed by extremely faithful fans who believe and love their school. That the program even exists after the tragedy of the plane crash that killed most of the players and its coaching staff is miraculous in and of itself.

As for behavior of West Virginians....I suppose we shouldn't mention the Ranks, who were arrested for wearing anti-Bush shirts at a presidential visit on July 4. Then Mrs. Rank lost her federal job because of it.

We probably also shouldn't mention the Republican who trampled the woman during the RNC in New York and then kicked her while she was on the ground.

Or we shouldn't mention the woman yesterday who was at a Laura Bush campaign stop in New Jersey who had a ticket and was then arrested for trespassing when she vocally disagreed with her.

Nope....shouldn't mention those things.

Leave Marshall out of this.

As for behavior of West Virginians....I suppose we shouldn't mention the Ranks, who were arrested for wearing anti-Bush shirts at a presidential visit on July 4. Then Mrs. Rank lost her federal job because of it.

If she had a federal job and sported an anti-bush shirt, she deserved to be fired. Under law, Federal Employees are BARRED from supporting one candidate over another publically. Since obviously she wore an anti-Bush shirt, she is, in FACT, supporting Kerry. This violates Federal Regulations and thus her employer was obligated to fire her.

If you work for the Federal Government, you lose some of your freedoms. That is how it goes when you work for the Feds.

Edit: Bolding is mine to emphasize what you said and highlight a key phrase!

If she had a federal job and sported an anti-bush shirt, she deserved to be fired. Under law, Federal Employees are BARRED from supporting one candidate over another publically. Since obviously she wore an anti-Bush shirt, she is, in FACT, supporting Kerry. This violates Federal Regulations and thus her employer was obligated to fire her.

If you work for the Federal Government, you lose some of your freedoms. That is how it goes when you work for the Feds.

I'm sorry, but you are wrong. Government employees are not allowed to endorse candidates while they are working or on government time. What they do on their own time is their own business. So long as while they are on their own time they do not use their government position in any way, shape, or form. Attending a presidential visit on their own time and expressing their own opinion is NOT against the law or code for federal or state employees.

Thanks for playing.

I'm sorry, but you are wrong. Government employees are not allowed to endorse candidates while they are working or on government time. What they do on their own time is their own business. So long as while they are on their own time they do not use their government position in any way, shape, or form. Attending a presidential visit on their own time and expressing their own opinion is NOT against the law or code for federal or state employees.

Thanks for playing.

Actually you are not correct.

Since she was PUBLICLLY seen with a anti-bush shirt, Her employer at what ever Federal Agency she worked for, had to follow procedure and that ment firing her.

My dad actually works for the Federal Government, he is in the Military! Everytime he was out in public, he was careful as to what he said about Clinton. Even I had to be careful as did my mom. My mom worked for the Post-Office which is part of the Federal Government. She also worked at Fort Levenworth Prison. Both Federal Jobs. She couldn't say anything about the leaders either.

I have more experience in this matter. If you are Publicly seen supporting one candidate over another, you will lose your job.

That is how it goes when you work for the Feds. If you like, after I return from dinner, I can call my mom and dad and post what they say about this for you since they are current and worked for the federal Government.

Actually you are not correct.

Since she was PUBLICLLY seen with a anti-bush shirt, Her employer at what ever Federal Agency she worked for, had to follow procedure and that ment firing her.

My dad actually works for the Federal Government, he is in the Military! Everytime he was out in public, he was careful as to what he said about Clinton. Even I had to be careful as did my mom. My mom worked for the Post-Office which is part of the Federal Government. She also worked at Fort Levenworth Prison. Both Federal Jobs. She couldn't say anything about the leaders either.

I have more experience in this matter. If you are Publicly seen supporting one candidate over another, you will lose your job.

That is how it goes when you work for the Feds. If you like, after I return from dinner, I can call my mom and dad and post what they say about this for you since they are current and worked for the federal Government.

My information comes from the Secretary of State's office. I'm not incorrect and I know exactly what I'm talking about. You can endorse any person you'd like so long as it is on your own time. You can be as vocal as you want so long as you don't use your position while doing so. Check the regs. You are not correct.

Why don't one of you just post the summary of the Hatch Act and get the argument over with? Hell, here's a link for you. (http://www.osc.gov/ha_fed.htm)

I'm a Republican, but that is not the whole party represented there. It's just one crazy ass group of people. I hate people who hold up one group of people as the example of millions.

This is the compassionate party? What is more compassionate than stealing a sign from a small child, destroying it, and laughing at her sadness? Kerry supporters unite against the danger of small children.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040916/480/wvrs10309162250

And she didn't illegally trespass onto the convention floor. She deserved it right?

I can't possibly express the degree to which I don't care.

I can't believe anyone would be so immature that they felt the need to tear up a little girl's Bush/Cheney sign just because they support Kerry. Come on, it is a little girl! All of these things that I hear about a Bush supporter doing this to a Kerry supporter, a Kerry supporter doing to a Bush supporter make me shake my head. It's ridiculous, full-grown adults acting like little 3-year-olds.

I can't believe anyone would be so immature that they felt the need to tear up a little girl's Bush/Cheney sign just because they support Kerry. Come on, it is a little girl! All of these things that I hear about a Bush supporter doing this to a Kerry supporter, a Kerry supporter doing to a Bush supporter make me shake my head. It's ridiculous, full-grown adults acting like little 3-year-olds.
the best part is it looks just like his son! and everyone there looks disgusted but the kid and his dad is overacting the sad father part, hes not angry, hes sad. in the real world he woul be angry, which he obviously isnt

Why don't one of you just post the summary of the Hatch Act and get the argument over with? Hell, here's a link for you. (http://www.osc.gov/ha_fed.htm)
Hey, whatya know-she shouldn't have been fired:

These federal and D.C. employees may-

* be candidates for public office in nonpartisan elections*
* register and vote as they choose
* assist in voter registration drives
* express opinions about candidates and issues
* contribute money to political organizations
* attend political fundraising functions
* attend and be active at political rallies and meetings
* join and be an active member of a political party or club
* sign nominating petitions
* campaign for or against referendum questions, constitutional amendments, municipal ordinances
* campaign for or against candidates in partisan elections
* make campaign speeches for candidates in partisan elections
* distribute campaign literature in partisan elections
* hold office in political clubs or parties


A friend of mine teaches english at a few schools (college level) and one of them is a business college. He subed for a fellow teacher in ethics and refused to ever do it again because the level of excuses the students make for treating employees like shit. There are 126 other hours in your week.

The Dad orchistrated this event. Why the hell would he bring his daughter down to see the crowd with that sign? It's a bullshit setup.

Besides, if we judged people on one group of their supporters, then lets talk about Al Quaeda supporting Bush for president.

Hell, they support him, right? So all of his supporters must be in that same group! You want to round up the terrorists? Start in the White House!

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=358240


What'd I tell ya?

The Dad orchistrated this event. Why the hell would he bring his daughter down to see the crowd with that sign? It's a bullshit setup.

Besides, if we judged people on one group of their supporters, then lets talk about Al Quaeda supporting Bush for president.

Hell, they support him, right? So all of his supporters must be in that same group! You want to round up the terrorists? Start in the White House!
You might be right about a "set-up"? Check the two pictures at the bottom of the story.....however, do read the story:

http://rising-hegemon.blogspot.com/2004/09/bogus-assault-father-freeper-of-year.html

What are the odds, this allegedly angry sign-ripper in the union shirt, holding the fragments of a ripped Bush sign is either the guy in the grey sweater or the blue shirt?

Also, notice the blond kid, bottom right with a clenched fist. Could that be the boy in front of the family picture?

Note: Incertonia started a thread on this very story:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=358240

You be the judge.

Of course it shouldn't be tolerated that adults do bad things to children. But you're all missing the real point:

WTF is a child doing on a political rally at the first place? To add insult to injury, it's even on a rally of the opposite party! It does not understand politics. There's no reason for a child to be there.

By principle I am against children being used in politics, even if it is only at a party meeting of your own party.

And the father is a jackass for going there with his child. Did he think people wouldn't do anything against him because he brought a kid with him? Did he go there because he could afterwards tell his daughter "see how evil they are?".

This is like deliberately going into the wrong section of the football stadium with your kids at your side and then flying the colours of your team.

Believe me, if she new how evil the man is who is on her sign, she'd have torn it up herself before the Democrats got to her.

BAHAHAHAHA, I didn't read it closely enough the first time. Phil Parlock? Geez, his name is infamous around here for that sort of crap. Parlock is a local joke.

He ran for Cabell County Board of Education back in 1998 when I was still living in Huntington. He came in next to last in that election after people heard him speak and heard his positions. The man is a nutjob. I met him several times because he was speaking to several of the campus groups. I remember him telling us about our moral imperative to make sure the Jews didn't take over all the elected seats. The next time he spoke he talked about Rex Bartholomew, one of the members already on the board. He trashed Bartholomew and spoke of his constant attempts to turn the schools into a state of Godless anarchy. Of course, he never mentioned that Rex Bartholomew is a reverend. He also didn't realize that his son is a pharmacist and part time teacher at Marshall and was in attendance as well.

Parlock is insane. Anything with his name attached is a story without credibility.

BAHAHAHAHA, I didn't read it closely enough the first time. Phil Parlock? Geez, his name is infamous around here for that sort of crap. Parlock is a local joke.

He ran for Cabell County Board of Education back in 1998 when I was still living in Huntington. He came in next to last in that election after people heard him speak and heard his positions. The man is a nutjob. I met him several times because he was speaking to several of the campus groups. I remember him telling us about our moral imperative to make sure the Jews didn't take over all the elected seats. The next time he spoke he talked about Rex Bartholomew, one of the members already on the board. He trashed Bartholomew and spoke of his constant attempts to turn the schools into a state of Godless anarchy. Of course, he never mentioned that Rex Bartholomew is a reverend. He also didn't realize that his son is a pharmacist and part time teacher at Marshall and was in attendance as well.

Parlock is insane. Anything with his name attached is a story without credibility.
chalk up Roy Moore to the same "worth"

BAHAHAHAHA, I didn't read it closely enough the first time. Phil Parlock? Geez, his name is infamous around here for that sort of crap. Parlock is a local joke.

He ran for Cabell County Board of Education back in 1998 when I was still living in Huntington. He came in next to last in that election after people heard him speak and heard his positions. The man is a nutjob. I met him several times because he was speaking to several of the campus groups. I remember him telling us about our moral imperative to make sure the Jews didn't take over all the elected seats. The next time he spoke he talked about Rex Bartholomew, one of the members already on the board. He trashed Bartholomew and spoke of his constant attempts to turn the schools into a state of Godless anarchy. Of course, he never mentioned that Rex Bartholomew is a reverend. He also didn't realize that his son is a pharmacist and part time teacher at Marshall and was in attendance as well.

Parlock is insane. Anything with his name attached is a story without credibility.

NOW, I feel bad for his daughter.

My question is, why would that father put a pro Bush sign in his daughter's hands at a Kerry rally. That father had to know what the reaction would be. He put his own daughter into that situation willingly and knowingly. Who here would put your young daughter in a situation you know will not be favorable for no other reason than political purposes?

That a few over zealous Kerry supporters at a rally tore up a sign and yelled a bit is not the crime against ethics and morals being shown in this photograph.

Also most of those people look like they are just worked up because of the rally, not "yelling, teasing, or shouting" at the little girl.

sorry, just woken up, who won the election ??

Document Not Found
The document you requested is not found. It may have expired.

sorry, just woken up, who won the election ??

Bush!

This is the compassionate party? What is more compassionate than stealing a sign from a small child, destroying it, and laughing at her sadness? Kerry supporters unite against the danger of small children.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040916/480/wvrs10309162250

And she didn't illegally trespass onto the convention floor. She deserved it right?
I don't think I need to point out the "pot calling the kettle black" bit; that was no doubt already discussed quite throuroughly. What I will say, however, is that the actions of a few people do not necessarily reflect upon the whole; that is an unreasonable assessment.

My god, what's the point of resurrecting this thread?

My god, what's the point of resurrecting this thread?
It was resurrected? I didn't know that; all I know is that I saw it on the general page and posted in it. >_>

It was resurrected? I didn't know that; all I know is that I saw it on the general page and posted in it. >_>

Look at the dates on the previous posts. When I say resurrected I mean we're posting in it long after the thread passed into obscurity and long after the actual election.

I know what ressurecting a thread means; I just didn't realize that the thread was ressurected until after I posted. >_>