Faithfull-freedom
17-09-2004, 02:29
Ok I can not speak for other people but do some topics get old? I have been here for maybe a month or so and I swear I have seen more gun topics than a gun enthusiast would probably want on their own site.
I have seen some arguments saying the second ammendment does not mean you have the right to cause mass casualty, and that is why we shouldn't have semi automatic weapons. Well that is not true, the whole intent in its original and infinite meaning is for that actual purpose.
The strongest reason to *retain* and not *limit* the right to bear arms is for you to cause mass casualty in a just form and as a last resort(it sucks criminals have exploited this). I can not read the future and neither can anyone else (though I feel 100% positive things would be stopped prior to tyranny) so lets be true to our Constitution. This in court has never been extended further than small arms, so lets stick to them before someone says oh I want a nuke or a gigantic d!ldo cannon or whatever.
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government"
-- Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
"The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good"
-- George Washington
"The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed."
-- Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers at 184-188
"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves ... and include all men capable of bearing arms."
-- Senator Richard Henry Lee, 1788, on "militia" in the 2nd Amendment
"No kingdom can be secured otherwise than by arming the people. The possession of arms is the distinction between a freeman and a slave."
-- "Political Disquisitions", a British republican tract of 1774-1775
"The great object is, that every man be armed. [ ... ] Every one who is able may have a gun."
-- Patrick Henry, speech of June 14 1788
"Such are a well regulated militia, composed of the freeholders, citizen and husbandman, who take up arms to preserve their property, as individuals, and their rights as freemen."
-- "M.T. Cicero", in a newspaper letter of 1788 touching the "militia"
referred to in the Second Amendment to the Constitution
"That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United states who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms ..."
-- Samuel Adams, in "Phila. Independent Gazetteer", August 20, 1789
"The whole of the Bill [of Rights] is a declaration of the right of the people ... It establishes some rights of the individual as unalienable and which consequently, no majority has a right to deprive them of."
-- Albert Gallatin, Oct 7 1789
"Even if the courts had said what this writer wants them to have said (and they haven't) you should remember that the Constitution does NOT delegate to the Supreme Court the authority to change the Constitution.
No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it."
-- 16 Am. Jur. Sec. 177 late 2d, Sec 256
"Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficient ... The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding."
-- Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis
"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so."
-- Adolf Hitler, April 11 1942
"The people of the various provinces are strictly forbidden to have in their possession any swords, short swords, bows, spears, firearms, or other types of arms. The possession of unnecessary implements makes difficult the collection of taxes and dues and tends to foment uprisings."
-- Toyotomi Hideyoshi, Shogun, August 1588
"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest."
-- Mahatma Gandhi
I have seen some arguments saying the second ammendment does not mean you have the right to cause mass casualty, and that is why we shouldn't have semi automatic weapons. Well that is not true, the whole intent in its original and infinite meaning is for that actual purpose.
The strongest reason to *retain* and not *limit* the right to bear arms is for you to cause mass casualty in a just form and as a last resort(it sucks criminals have exploited this). I can not read the future and neither can anyone else (though I feel 100% positive things would be stopped prior to tyranny) so lets be true to our Constitution. This in court has never been extended further than small arms, so lets stick to them before someone says oh I want a nuke or a gigantic d!ldo cannon or whatever.
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government"
-- Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
"The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good"
-- George Washington
"The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed."
-- Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers at 184-188
"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves ... and include all men capable of bearing arms."
-- Senator Richard Henry Lee, 1788, on "militia" in the 2nd Amendment
"No kingdom can be secured otherwise than by arming the people. The possession of arms is the distinction between a freeman and a slave."
-- "Political Disquisitions", a British republican tract of 1774-1775
"The great object is, that every man be armed. [ ... ] Every one who is able may have a gun."
-- Patrick Henry, speech of June 14 1788
"Such are a well regulated militia, composed of the freeholders, citizen and husbandman, who take up arms to preserve their property, as individuals, and their rights as freemen."
-- "M.T. Cicero", in a newspaper letter of 1788 touching the "militia"
referred to in the Second Amendment to the Constitution
"That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United states who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms ..."
-- Samuel Adams, in "Phila. Independent Gazetteer", August 20, 1789
"The whole of the Bill [of Rights] is a declaration of the right of the people ... It establishes some rights of the individual as unalienable and which consequently, no majority has a right to deprive them of."
-- Albert Gallatin, Oct 7 1789
"Even if the courts had said what this writer wants them to have said (and they haven't) you should remember that the Constitution does NOT delegate to the Supreme Court the authority to change the Constitution.
No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it."
-- 16 Am. Jur. Sec. 177 late 2d, Sec 256
"Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficient ... The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding."
-- Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis
"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so."
-- Adolf Hitler, April 11 1942
"The people of the various provinces are strictly forbidden to have in their possession any swords, short swords, bows, spears, firearms, or other types of arms. The possession of unnecessary implements makes difficult the collection of taxes and dues and tends to foment uprisings."
-- Toyotomi Hideyoshi, Shogun, August 1588
"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest."
-- Mahatma Gandhi