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To all you Bush supporters out there, name one good thing that Bush has done in his entire 4 years in office.

And please people, no anti-American stuff here, this is just meant to criticize Bush.

He's been a great source of comedy!

To all you Bush supporters out there, name one good thing that Bush has done in his entire 4 years in office.

The answer is NO.

This is a good thread it will actually help Bush supporters to think. Think about what this idiot president has done in 4 whole years! So why should he get four more just to fuck up the country?

He hugged a fireman and let a vet of the Iraq war who lost a leg jog with him once the dude got his new leg. Other then that, I'm coming up empty.

When he hugged this, fireman, did anyone happen to catch if he grapped his butt?

He hugged a fireman and let a vet of the Iraq war who lost a leg jog with him once the dude got his new leg. Other then that, I'm coming up empty.

Yeah, hes done nothing, and all Bush fans, dont concentrate on what Kerry wouldnt do. Just Bush please.

Nothing unless you consider giving more Japaneese people jobs. Deporting all those good manufacturing jobs, tsk. tsk. tsk.

He did admit his true agenda with that dictatorship line... Which is nominally a good thing, not in the way I know you mean though. If he steals (or wins) this election again I'm seriously moving to Canada.

Nothing unless you consider giving more Japaneese people jobs. Deporting all those good manufacturing jobs, tsk. tsk. tsk.

i disagree. if japan is more efficient in producing those goods let them be.

President George W. Bush is an idiot! And he started a war! And he allowed Sept. 11 to happen. Less people have healthcare, we have less not more homeland security, and we have many more unemployed people.

i disagree. if japan is more efficient in producing those goods let them be.

Umm, no, first of all there our jobs they cant take them, and second of all, they arent more effeciant, and third of all Bush only did it in the name of big business.

He did admit his true agenda with that dictatorship line... Which is nominally a good thing, not in the way I know you mean though. If he steals (or wins) this election again I'm seriously moving to Canada.
Canada, hahaha, haha, ha. Hey umm, could I maybe hitch a ride.

i disagree. if japan is more efficient in producing those goods let them be.

Who says they are?

I thought India and China were getting the lion share of Americans jobs. I guess maybe Japan too, but I had only heard about India and China.

YOur right about China and India, but Japan got the bigger jobs.

He did one good thing, and one good thing only: the $400 per child tax cut! (Okay, it wasn't really a tax cut, but more of a tax refund advance). Anyway, that money sure came in handy when my wife and I had triplets.

But otherwise, no, the man sucks. My family in Texas was glad when he was elected president because that meant he would no longer be screwing up their state. Instead, he screwed up America's relationships with the rest of the world.

I thought India and China were getting the lion share of Americans jobs. I guess maybe Japan too, but I had only heard about India and China.

Umm, no, first of all there our jobs they cant take them, and second of all, they arent more effeciant, and third of all Bush only did it in the name of big business.

no.....which law in your crummy constitution says that foreign competitors can't take your jobs?

second, OF COURSE THE JAPANESE ARE MORE EFFICIENT THAN YOU IN PRODUCING SOME GOODS! like technological goods. sony. mazda. toyota. mitsubichi.

whether or not he did it in the name of big businesses, he did it for the world economy.

He did one good thing, and one good thing only: the $400 per child tax cut! (Okay, it wasn't really a tax cut, but more of a tax refund advance). Anyway, that money sure came in handy when my wife and I had triplets.

But otherwise, no, the man sucks. My family in Texas was glad when he was elected president because that meant he would no longer be screwing up their state. Instead, he screwed up America's relationships with the rest of the world.

Well, the tax cut itself wasnt that great because now with that war he started the US gov. needs more money not less, did anyone know that we are now 6 trillion dollars in debt!?!?!? See maybe its all well and good to get a few hundred bucks, but its making our country suffer. its crazy.

I don't support Bush, but I think people are often unfairly harsh to him, based upon economic principles which they know little about. I don't profess to know much about them, as I've only just started my macroeconomics class, but what little I've learned tells me that Bush has done a few good things.

First off, while many people go on about how horrible it is that our manufacturing jobs are going overseas, they never mention that this is neither new nor undesirable. The world is moving towards a truly free market, global economy; America simply has a more well-educated population, and thus we import high-skill-level jobs. This importation is in a temporary slump due to the market crash after the dot-com bubble, but should increase again within the next ten years.

Second, I'll quote myself from a different thread:

Well, no one gives him credit for it, but he did help prevent a depression after the crash.

Anyone who says that the crash was his fault, I suggest that you think more long-term and don't blame who's in power now for the faults of who was in power before. Clinton took credit for the positive results of Bush Sr.'s tax hikes (you know, the ones that forced him out of office); and, sure enough, Bush Jr. took the blame for the end of the bubble. It was going to burst eventually, but Clinton got kicked out of office just in time to save his scrawny a***.

Despite common perception that government spending drives the markets, there is really very little a government can do to combat a spiraling-down economy, and Bush did everything in his power to make sure that money didn't go stagnant. I'm taking a macroeconomics course right now, from a man who cracks at the Republicans every time he gets a chance, and even he admits it.

Oh, and btw, name-calling is not an intellectual argument. No one appreciates being called a fascist, and very few appreciate being called Communists. Please realize that the people on the opposite side of the argument are people too, and that their reasons for supporting their side are likely as good as your own.

no.....which law in your crummy constitution says that foreign competitors can't take your jobs?

second, OF COURSE THE JAPANESE ARE MORE EFFICIENT THAN YOU IN PRODUCING SOME GOODS! like technological goods. sony. mazda. toyota. mitsubichi.

whether or not he did it in the name of big businesses, he did it for the world economy.

EURO ELERT EURO ELERT!!!! Who gives a shit about the world econemy, no one goes by that. It goes from country to country, like I dont really care if Iraq is completely unemployed, or if your dumbass country is unemployed I care about my fellow Americans, you sir or Ma'am are dirt! I dont need to surrender my job for those assholes.

He's handling Agffghanistan well, he dethroned a dictator, He handled 9/11 well I could go On but I want to see your half-ass arguments

I don't support Bush, but I think people are often unfairly harsh to him, based upon economic principles which they know little about. I don't profess to know much about them, as I've only just started my macroeconomics class, but what little I've learned tells me that Bush has done a few good things.

First off, while many people go on about how horrible it is that our manufacturing jobs are going overseas, they never mention that this is neither new nor undesirable. The world is moving towards a truly free market, global economy; America simply has a more well-educated population, and thus we import high-skill-level jobs. This importation is in a temporary slump due to the market crash after the dot-com bubble, but should increase again within the next ten years.

Second, I'll quote myself from a different thread:

We still need manufcturing jobs, everyone needs all different kinds of jobs, if we dont have manufacturing jobs, what will we trade? What will we deport? Paperwork??? Bush promised to employ 5 million Americans instead 1 milion more are out of work and .7 million more have a smaller wage.

He's handling Agffghanistan well, he dethroned a dictator, He handled 9/11 well I could go On but I want to see your half-ass arguments

Yes he handled that so well that almost 80% of the country is being run again by either war lords or the Taliban again, great job Mr. Bush!

Yes, he dethroned a dictator who did nothing wrong to the USA, he got Saddam, but don't you think he should of put that effort into going after the actual guy that attacked you? Like, oh, I dunno, maybe OBL? Remember him?

He's handling Agffghanistan well, he dethroned a dictator, He handled 9/11 well I could go On but I want to see your half-ass arguments

Ok!!! He did not handle Afghanistan well, he went in there for lioke four months and then left watching the Taliban and Al-Queda get away! Osama is still missing, we shouldnt have gone into Iraq, they were so inocent, now they all hate us, or havent you noticed the militia yet??? He didnt handle 9/11 very well, because, HE WAS THE CAUSE OF IT!!! HE IGNORED REPORTS FROM THE CIA, BECAUSE HE SPENT A MONTH OF VACATIONING IN FREKKIN TEXAS!!! HIS ADMINISTRATION EVEN SAID, WE DONT WANT TO HEAR ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT OSAMA BIN LADEN, AND CONDI RICE SAID I THINK THE REPORT WAS CALLED OSAMA TO ATTACK IN AMERICA!!! What do you have to say to that?

EURO ELERT EURO ELERT!!!! Who gives a shit about the world econemy, no one goes by that. It goes from country to country, like I dont really care if Iraq is completely unemployed, or if your dumbass country is unemployed I care about my fellow Americans, you sir or Ma'am are dirt! I dont need to surrender my job for those assholes.

*snort*

knowing that your GNP is larger than your GDP i think you should be quite worried about the world economy. Plus, if Iraq is completely unemployed it could derail your entire nation's politics and economy. say, the price of oil rocketed? sure. rant. you can't beat economics.

Really now, who cares about the world economy if we can't manage our own. It is not just mechanical jobs but technical jobs as well. Had to call MCI the other day about some long distanance phone calls...the office was in India. I spent 3 hours explaining where Missouri and Colorado were....I finally had to talk to a supervisor who had some American geography in grade school.

We are not importing high level jobs in return. The rise in Engineers working minimum wage jobs has been pretty frightning. There are less and less high skill jobs not being outsource. Not new but Bush did lower taxes for those that take their jobs over seas.

I don't support Bush, but I think people are often unfairly harsh to him, based upon economic principles which they know little about. I don't profess to know much about them, as I've only just started my macroeconomics class, but what little I've learned tells me that Bush has done a few good things.

First off, while many people go on about how horrible it is that our manufacturing jobs are going overseas, they never mention that this is neither new nor undesirable. The world is moving towards a truly free market, global economy; America simply has a more well-educated population, and thus we import high-skill-level jobs. This importation is in a temporary slump due to the market crash after the dot-com bubble, but should increase again within the next ten years.

Second, I'll quote myself from a different thread:

Yes he handled that so well that almost 80% of the country is being run again by either war lords or the Taliban again, great job Mr. Bush!

Yes, he dethroned a dictator who did nothing wrong to the USA, he got Saddam, but don't you think he should of put that effort into going after the actual guy that attacked you? Like, oh, I dunno, maybe OBL? Remember him?

Yes!!! Thank you!

We still need manufcturing jobs, everyone needs all different kinds of jobs, if we dont have manufacturing jobs, what will we trade? What will we deport? Paperwork??? Bush promised to employ 5 million Americans instead 1 milion more are out of work and .7 million more have a smaller wage.

Not necessarily. The old school importation/deportation is on the way out. More and more people are employed in service jobs - anyone that doesn't physically make a product, for example.

And could I have your source for those statistics? Data supporting any conclusion tends to reflect the wishes of those who compile it, on either side, so I'd prefer to take a look at the method myself, see what they did to get it.

Look, I need to go to class, but if anyone is interested in continuing the discussion feel free to telegram me. I'll keep the window open, and try to catch up when I get back.

*snort*

knowing that your GNP is larger than your GDP i think you should be quite worried about the world economy. Plus, if Iraq is completely unemployed it could derail your entire nation's politics and economy. say, the price of oil rocketed? sure. rant. you can't beat economics.

I didnt say that Iraq had no jobs, I said I didnt care if they didnt, seriously, walking from time to time doesnt bother me at all.

To all you Bush supporters out there, name one good thing that Bush has done in his entire 4 years in office.

And please people, no anti-American stuff here, this is just meant to criticize Bush.

He's rid the world of two of the most evil regimes on the planet. Only a couple of world leaders not too pussy to try it.
Only in this world can that be perceived as a bad thing.

And people say that he hurt the US economy. Recent reports show that the US still has the strongest economy in the world.

Not necessarily. The old school importation/deportation is on the way out. More and more people are employed in service jobs - anyone that doesn't physically make a product, for example.

And could I have your source for those statistics? Data supporting any conclusion tends to reflect the wishes of those who compile it, on either side, so I'd prefer to take a look at the method myself, see what they did to get it.

Look, I need to go to class, but if anyone is interested in continuing the discussion feel free to telegram me. I'll keep the window open, and try to catch up when I get back.

have fun in class.

I didnt say that Iraq had no jobs, I said I didnt care if they didnt, seriously, walking from time to time doesnt bother me at all.

not having cheap oil doesn't mean just having to walk. not having cheap oil means general, rapid, uncontrolled inflation, because everything needs oil to produce.

He's rid the world of two of the most evil regimes on the planet. Only a couple of world leaders not too pussy to try it.
Only in this world can that be perceived as a bad thing.

Two things, I supported Afghanistan we had every right to go into there, but we shouldve done more there, instead we went to Iraq, now, all the people there hate us, and they would rather have Saddam than the government we gave them. Watch the news more!

not having cheap oil doesn't mean just having to walk. not having cheap oil means general, rapid, uncontrolled inflation, because everything needs oil to produce.

we get our oil from other places besides Iraq you know, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, etc. And guess where we get 40% of our oil? THE USA! Texas and Alaska give us 40% of our oil.

You ask for one thing Bush has done right, then end your post with "this is just meant to criticize Bush"??? Yeah, OK, we now know how open you would be to any positive responses. So, in that case, I'll give you what you want and just regurgitate your opinion back to you:

"Bush is a big fat doo-doo head meanie!"

we get our oil from other places besides Iraq you know, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, etc. And guess where we get 40% of our oil? THE USA! Texas and Alaska give us 40% of our oil.

Actually you import more oil from Canada then any other country.

The vast majority of Canada's oil is sold to the United States. In fact Canada is the biggest supplier of oil for the United States. Approximately 1.8 million barrels of Canadian oil are bought by the States every day. This is more than even the imports from Saudi Arabia which are presently at around 1.5 million barrels.

Source (http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/4/20/201246/566)

President Bush HAS done at least one good thing. He signed the do-not-call list law into effect. And he also overthrew the Taliban, even though he has not followed up on that. But overwhelmingly this is the Failure President. I'm sure not voting for him. He's a right-wing nut job.

we get our oil from other places besides Iraq you know, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, etc. And guess where we get 40% of our oil? THE USA! Texas and Alaska give us 40% of our oil.

so? doesn't mean that you won't suffer from inflation.

The answer is NO.

This is a good thread it will actually help Bush supporters to think. Think about what this idiot president has done in 4 whole years! So why should he get four more just to fuck up the country?

Well for those of you who have no clue what your talking about Bush has in fact done a lot of good for this country. The problem with this country is not our president, its people like you who would rather complain then do anything about it your damn self.

If you want something done GET OFF YOUR ASS and do it, dont cry about it. You want to know the difference between a Bush and Kerry. Kerry will promise to WIPE YOUR ASS for you even though he knows he can't just so he will be elected. Bush will tell you the truth, even if you dont want to hear it.

Quit crying like babies about "Oh they should do this for me, and they should do that for me," get off your ass and do something for your damn self.

Remember, we are a country for the people, of the people, and by the people. You want something done? Guess what, it starts with the man in the mirror.

Get your panties out of a bunch, get your thumb out of your ass, and do something for your self, maybe then you'll see what bush has done for my great country.

Just my two cents.

I'm not just right, I'm far right!

President Bush HAS done at least one good thing. He signed the do-not-call list law into effect. And he also overthrew the Taliban, even though he has not followed up on that. But overwhelmingly this is the Failure President. I'm sure not voting for him. He's a right-wing nut job.

Maybe thats what this country needs!

I'm not just right, I'm far right!

Bush has spurred more young liberals to vote in the U.S. elections and created an incredible increase in the amount of interest Americans have in politics. I see that as a positive development.

He let the awb sunset without pressuring the house and the people to give up anymore rights in this area.

He gave tax cuts in place of tax increases.

He didn't wait for another country to approve our actions before acting.

He enacted the patriot act(which can be a great thing or a horrible thing) and I will love this act as long as it is used to protect and not father.

He has shown restraint by not going after even more devisive issues for someone who's party controls the Senate, House and SCOTUS.

He is attempting to privatize many area's that should be left to the states to decide.

Disclaimer:
This is coming from someone that doesn't even agree with many of his beliefs.

Well for those of you who have no clue what your talking about Bush has in fact done a lot of good for this country. The problem with this country is not our president, its people like you who would rather complain then do anything about it your damn self.

If you want something done GET OFF YOUR ASS and do it, dont cry about it. You want to know the difference between a Bush and Kerry. Kerry will promise to WIPE YOUR ASS for you even though he knows he can't just so he will be elected. Bush will tell you the truth, even if you dont want to hear it.

Quit crying like babies about "Oh they should do this for me, and they should do that for me," get off your ass and do something for your damn self.

Remember, we are a country for the people, of the people, and by the people. You want something done? Guess what, it starts with the man in the mirror.

Get your panties out of a bunch, get your thumb out of your ass, and do something for your self, maybe then you'll see what bush has done for my great country.

Just my two cents.

I'm not just right, I'm far right!


I love your logic.

"Bush is a great president!"
"Why?"
"YOU'RE A PUSSY, THAT'S WHY!"

I dunno if anyone mentioned this... but I could only come up with ONE thing I really liked that Bush passed.. THE DO NOT CALL LIST!

I noticed that the responses are sorely lacking on anything good Bush has done on the first page - bit of a brain teaser Bushites?

did anyone else notice that "bush wonderland" never provided an example of what bush has done right? he just flamed. guess he couldnt come up with one!

im pretty sure that bush has done one good thing. i THINK that he has worked hard to dry up the money flow to alqaida and has encouraged our allies to do the same.

there is no way to know if he has done it WELL, but it seems to have been somewhat successful

He has done an amazing thing! between bush and santorum, they have inspired me NOT to become a republican. (I live in Pennsylvania, thus the mention of the plastic-smile 'family values' homo-phobe santorum)

unfortunately, as an eagle scout, i dont have much sympathy for democrats. Sorry, the democrat people never come to my troop's eagle ceremonies and insist on calling boy scouts a conservative organization just because we don't want to deal with the potential risks of having gays in scouting.

so, im a libertarian. Which is also is out of place since i notice a few more good things about the government than the serious libertarian... but at least i agree with the concept that the govt should be reduced in size and dominance. that used to be a republican belief, but thanks to bush and his statist policies (note: increasing spending, budget deficits, corporate welfare, etc.), the republican party no longer serves their most appealing ideal, and might as well be called the 'christian-evangelical neo-con representative-fascist party'.


anyhow, isnt this supposed to be a good-thing list? why have we all splintered down into criticizing him without even giving an opportunity for positive recognition?

for a good thing... how about getting rid of the tax on dividends since that was basically taxing something that already was taxed and therefore redundant and harmful to the investor aspect of the economy (aka wallstreet, the thing that so many people look at for an indication to how the economy is doing).

I love your logic.

"Bush is a great president!"
"Why?"
"YOU'RE A PUSSY, THAT'S WHY!"

I wouldnt expect you to understand

Of course he has....he lowered my taxes. Which allowed me to get a few more diving trips in this year. Anything that lets me go diving is a good thing indeed.

Here it is simply put for those of you who don't understand the american way of life. First off he is trying his best to protect or freedoms. Freedom from terrorist, freedom of speach, religion, right to arms, exc. And he's doing a DAMN good job at it.

George W Bush is doing his best to help you help yourself. He's making it easier for those who want to do something to do it. For example if you want to give money to the homeless, he will do his best to make sure you have as much money in your pocket to give to the homeless as you can.

Now if all you want to do is bitch and cry and say its such a shame, the govenment should do something about it, well you can move to sweeden, here in the United States of America, if you want something done you better damn well get off your ass in do it, and quit your bitching.

Does that clerify my point for all of you who don't understand why this country is here or why this country is great? (And yes that is directed to all of you who call your self Americans too. Well I dont call you Americans, I call you damn yanks.)

I wouldnt expect you to understand
Oh yeah I understand alright. No real solutions. No constructive debate.
Rah-rah football rhetorics. That's what I call it.

Ok!!! He did not handle Afghanistan well, he went in there for lioke four months and then left watching the Taliban and Al-Queda get away! Osama is still missing, we shouldnt have gone into Iraq, they were so inocent, now they all hate us, or havent you noticed the militia yet??? He didnt handle 9/11 very well, because, HE WAS THE CAUSE OF IT!!! HE IGNORED REPORTS FROM THE CIA, BECAUSE HE SPENT A MONTH OF VACATIONING IN FREKKIN TEXAS!!! HIS ADMINISTRATION EVEN SAID, WE DONT WANT TO HEAR ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT OSAMA BIN LADEN, AND CONDI RICE SAID I THINK THE REPORT WAS CALLED OSAMA TO ATTACK IN AMERICA!!! What do you have to say to that?
Shit for brains we are still in afghanistan its just the left semms to have forgot that.

Bush has spurred more young liberals to vote in the U.S. elections and created an incredible increase in the amount of interest Americans have in politics. I see that as a positive development.



Yeah, we sure do want to go throw his ass out on the street! :D

Of course Bush has done good things!!!!

For one, our economy is better than its been in YEARS (and not just a few, but many many years)

We also have a strong military, and public education has gotten and is growing better

Yeah, we sure do want to go throw his ass out on the street! :D

Yeah....but the more we all see of Kerry, the less likely it looks like that will happen. We have not seen him here in Florida helping out with the hurricanes here. But his wife can worry about people in other countries....funny that huh? :D

Well, if Kerry was in Florida talking to hurricane victims, you would probably claim he was politicizing the tragedy anyway.

In truth I really don't like Bush, but what about the "No Child Left Behind" Act. I think that is a really great. Any child, regardless of their families money will get an education equaled to any other that you can fing, except for rich ones.

In truth I really don't like Bush, but what about the "No Child Left Behind" Act. I think that is a really great. Any child, regardless of their families money will get an education equaled to any other that you can fing, except for rich ones.


If only he put the necessary funding into it eh? Anyway... It's a flawed policy at best.

Well for those of you who have no clue what your talking about Bush has in fact done a lot of good for this country. The problem with this country is not our president, its people like you who would rather complain then do anything about it your damn self.

If you want something done GET OFF YOUR ASS and do it, dont cry about it. You want to know the difference between a Bush and Kerry. Kerry will promise to WIPE YOUR ASS for you even though he knows he can't just so he will be elected. Bush will tell you the truth, even if you dont want to hear it.

Quit crying like babies about "Oh they should do this for me, and they should do that for me," get off your ass and do something for your damn self.

Remember, we are a country for the people, of the people, and by the people. You want something done? Guess what, it starts with the man in the mirror.

Get your panties out of a bunch, get your thumb out of your ass, and do something for your self, maybe then you'll see what bush has done for my great country.

Just my two cents.

I'm not just right, I'm far right!

Yes, yes they should do "this or that" for me. Why? Because they are public servants. Their whole purpose for existence is to serve the needs of the people. We pay their wage. We vote them in and out. WE THE PEOPLE.

Having this gargantuan government, paying taxes to them, and then not expecting them to do anything for us, is the height of idiocy.

We're not expecting them to wipe our asses, we simply want them to promote the greater good for the people.

In a democracy, the people are the bosses.

Here it is simply put for those of you who don't understand the american way of life. First off he is trying his best to protect or freedoms. Freedom from terrorist, freedom of speach, religion, right to arms, exc. And he's doing a DAMN good job at it.

How has he protected our freedom of speech. We now have less freedom of speech. For example some places have "Free speech zones" which are in out of the way areas. This really limits the protestors' effectiveness.

As for religion, what about the whole gay marriage thing. The only argument that even comes anywhere near close to being reasonable against gay marriage is religion. I'd say that's limiting the rights of gays and establishing religious laws.

He turned me in to a left wing. I guess that's a personal victory for me. :)

I don't like the man, but I give him credit for being ballsy/stupid enough to give Saddam a deadline and then holding him to it, even if his reasoning was based on fallacious and fabricated data about WsMD