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they never insult peoples belifes ect that Is total Bullshit,Just a minute ago I read someone calling all fu**s religous people for what others said what they don't get their threoys are as unlikely as ours. I am getting sick now'in days from the stress of your utter bull shit

*gives Star Shadow- a hug, 'cause s/he seems to need one*

Very true. Athiests tend to be slightly more open-minded about other beliefs than other groups.

The complexity of your post leaves me with the inability to determine if the statement "Atheists are kind and loving people" was in any way sarcastic in nature.

The complexity of your post leaves me with the inability to determine if the statement "Atheists are kind and loving people" was in any way sarcastic in nature.

yeah dude. That first post needs some editing.

The complexity of your post leaves me with the inability to determine if the statement "Atheists are kind and loving people" was in any way sarcastic in nature.
Hey that ain't funny jerk *whisper* Ihope your an atheist. And I prob took that wrong but still

they never insult peoples belifes ect that Is total Bullshit,Just a minute ago I read someone calling all fu**s religous people for what others said what they don't get their threoys are as unlikely as ours. I am getting sick now'in days from the stress of your utter bull shit
I think there's good and bad debaters on both sides, as well as people who have serious questioned their beliefs as well as though who simply follow whatever they're told. As far as atheists go, it's funny how many of them believe that anyone who believes in religion must be brainwashed. Which would be pretty difficult, as that wouldn't leave anyone to do the brainwashing :p

Very true. Athiests tend to be slightly more open-minded about other beliefs than other groups.
Where was that message in my post?

Hey that ain't funny jerk *whisper* Ihope your an atheist. And I prob took that wrong but still

I didn't mean to offend... your post is just a little hard to follow, that's all.

three days, it takes three days to get to the 'why do the atheists pick on us' thread. now I know the length of the cycle.

Oh, you're right. I'm sorry that every one of us is intolerant.

three days, it takes three days to get to the 'why do the atheists pick on us' thread. now I know the length of the cycle.
:) Um My I am getting tired at this rate my major In poltics won'tbe used and its ticking me off.

Oh, you're right. I'm sorry that every one of us is intolerant.
never said that but those who are seem larger to me like most of you think people who fallow the bible best they can are fundmintalist

Well, I've heard the same thing from every religion... Why not just criticize everyone?

Well, I've heard the same thing from every religion... Why not just criticize everyone?
Mankind Is built so it can all you need is a new group of people to bash and the old people fade into obsceuirty.

This is exactly why you should only debate religion with intelligent, open-minded people. It is also my personal philosophy to understand just enough about every religion to avoid offending them and harmlessly change the subject.

To paraphrase what someone I forget said...

"Every group has its assholes..."

Very true. Athiests tend to be slightly more open-minded about other beliefs than other groups.

Not from what I've seen. I would divide people first into those who are close-mouthed about their beliefs and those who are either open or aggressive. The latter group is really the only one we can talk about, and it's further divided into those who are just open when talking about it and those who are inclined to try to pursuade. Of the former some will be open to other views and others won't, but that latter will still be content just with stating position. Of those who will discuss it aggressively, few are actually very open-minded in their debates, and I have seen no greater or lesser tendency to this position between Atheists and religious people.

To paraphrase what someone I forget said...

"Every group has its assholes..."

Very true... especially the group sitting directly to my right.

*gives Star Shadow- a hug, 'cause s/he seems to need one*
Seconds that.

mutters something about the human mind none of you hear.

Actually, I was a complete dick when I first *became* atheist.

I was filled with an irrational hatred of all things happy and ignorant, be they religious or secular...

Then again, I am an existential nihilist.

When you first come to terms with your existence meaning nothing, that your great grandchildren won't know or care who you are/were, that even if you achieve a feat so great as to land you in the history books you'll be lost in body and mind, and that even existentialist pride and effort are dribble in the face of the universe/omniverse imploding/supernovaing...
You're pretty broken up, angst ridden, and shitty to other people.


Therefore, I suppose it's safest to say that the happiest of [atheists] are tolerant of everyone, and that the most miserable of us hate everyone equally.

Note: Despite the latter group (which I used to be part of) hating everyone, it doesn't necessarily mean we lack empathy or morals.

Atheists by nature vehemently disagree with all other beliefs. Then they freak out when other people do the same about their beliefs! (well, in this case anyway) I think that's bullshit. Put people are full of angst and bullshit, I guess there's nothing I can do about it?

If you ask me, they're generally less wizened and more miserable then agnostics or 'theogists. But I suppose that's an unfair generalization based only on personal experience. :)

Very true. Athiests tend to be slightly more open-minded about other beliefs than other groups.
Yeah, right.
The biggest difference between athiests and believers (of any religion) that I have seen is that believers will be upset about things done in the name of their religion, and so feel the need to defend the better elements of their faith and make sure that the bad things won't happen again. Thus, roman catholic will be horrified by the Inquisition, and want to make sure that it will never re-occur, while athiests don't seem to care about Madame Guillotine or the gulag camps.
I'm guessing that this refusal to learn from past mistakes is why athiest nations - such as North Korea - keep making the same old mistakes while more religious nations have been slowly improving over time.

OK I am getting a petition to God together to request he take freewill back, because it hasn't turned out so great. People just think so damn much and make all these decisions and bullshit and I really don't think that that is what he was going for I mean really...

So remember to do your part in the war against thinking by beating your children until they agree with all of your ideas exactly.

Yeah, right.
The biggest difference between athiests and believers (of any religion) that I have seen is that believers will be upset about things done in the name of their religion, and so feel the need to defend the better elements of their faith and make sure that the bad things won't happen again. Thus, roman catholic will be horrified by the Inquisition, and want to make sure that it will never re-occur, while athiests don't seem to care about Madame Guillotine or the gulag camps.
I'm guessing that this refusal to learn from past mistakes is why athiest nations - such as North Korea - keep making the same old mistakes while more religious nations have been slowly improving over time.

That's very insightful.

well, i am kind and loving or at least i try to be. I try to be nice to everybody i meet. But, i do make fun of religion but it's all cool. I mostly make fun of Christianity and Catholics...
Atheists to an extent are pretty nice or at least the ones i know.

well, i am kind and loving or at least i try to be. I try to be nice to everybody i meet. But, i do make fun of religion but it's all cool. I mostly make fun of Christianity and Catholics...
Atheists to an extent are pretty nice or at least the ones i know.
Meanwhile the ones you don't know are ticking the inteligent christains off before we get to the brains of the operations.

Can I play the "make stupid fucking generalizations" game too?

I've been an atheist for well over 20 years, and almost every atheist I have ever met is a prick. They claim to not believe is most fprmal spiritual beliefs, but have no problem attacking them and argueing as though they are an alternative.

I have always said that I appreciate and enjoy Christians. I think they are gullable and wrong, but civil and inspiring. It is not a conflict to feel this way. I never saw the point in arguing with a person telling me I am going to hell, when I don't even beliueve in hell. I laugh, accept that is their point of view, and then ask them if they want to go and get a bite. They usually laugh back, and we go hang out lol.

With an atheist, the two of you end up fighting over who can say the most vile things about this same cluck of a Christian. It is almost ingrained that you have to tear them down and force them to change perspective. I could care less if 99% of the world was Christian, I would almost prefer it, as stomaching a room full of atheists is enough to make me sick.

Disclaimer: I do have my closest atheist friends though, but none of them rip on Christians all day, they accept them as just another group of folkjs, free to express themselves with whatever makes them happy. Some folks (vast majority) just need religion to get by in life. I accepted that the second I became an atheist, and it works well for me.

OK I am getting a petition to God together to request he take freewill back, because it hasn't turned out so great. People just think so damn much and make all these decisions and bullshit and I really don't think that that is what he was going for I mean really...

So remember to do your part in the war against thinking by beating your children until they agree with all of your ideas exactly.
which is why god made man innocent, and gave them a choice and it was inevitable that amn would choose the fruit eventually

Can I play the "make stupid fucking generalizations" game too?

That's all this entire forum seems to be about, so sure!

That's all this entire forum seems to be about, so sure!
Was just thinking the same thing. Maybe that's why I don't come around here very often....

well, i am kind and loving or at least i try to be. I try to be nice to everybody i meet. But, i do make fun of religion but it's all cool. I mostly make fun of Christianity and Catholics...
Atheists to an extent are pretty nice or at least the ones i know.

I make fun of other races, but it's cool. I only make fun of Jews and Blacks.

j/k

Hey that ain't funny jerk *whisper* Ihope your an atheist. And I prob took that wrong but still

wow. and you're accusing other people of beign jerks?

It seems to me there are extremists in both groups (atheist and religious) capable of causing extreme problems--especially when you put the two groups in the same room together.

What really boggles my mind, though, is how some atheists (the hardcore ones, NOT all of them) have in certain ways become what they feared. They feared religion for supposedly brainwashing others, and hated it because of persecutions that occurred. I won't deny that persecution happens. But the thing is, that kind of atheist then uses this as an excuse to insult others or deny them THEIR rights, doing the very thing that they hated the religious for doing to them. It seems to me like this is a major part of human nature: running from one extreme but in the process becoming exactly what you hated--just in different clothing.

I have no problem with atheists - I am very good friends with one and she is a wonderful humanitarian.

I, myself though, am agnostic, but that's just me

Now, I'm technically an atheist (Buddhists don't believe in a God) and I'm in no way discriminatory and I seriously pride myself on that. Equality is the most important thing than humanity can learn in my opinion. Do I sound like the type of person to slag off other religions? I may not necessarily agree with their principles, and a bit of healthy debate about it is fine...