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Just wondering what people think the easiest way to global peace is .. ?


I think that if a band of non-government people were to set up camp in every possible country and help bring them together from across the globe using community centres with internet acess and games facilites would work..

Showing the children at an early age that people from other places are just like them would work.

easiest way? kill everybody.

Probably just fire off our nukes at Russia.

Id like some serious answers with no flames attached. PLEASE

Just wondering what people think the easiest way to global peace is .. ?


I think that if a band of non-government people were to set up camp in every possible country and help bring them together from across the globe using community centres with internet acess and games facilites would work..

Showing the children at an early age that people from other places are just like them would work.
The problem is that people from one place aren't just like those from another place, and while most of the differences are pretty immaterial, some people just can't get past them.

that was a serious answer, you wanted to know the easiest way to world peace. it's a lot easier to kill everybody than it is to work out diplomatic solutions. if our entire species was wiped off the planet, then there would be world peace.

if you want the best way to world peace, then you should have asked for it.

Just wondering what people think the easiest way to global peace is .. ?

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Simplicity in itself.

Pick a position on something. Kill everybody who disagree with you. Pick another position on something. Once again kill everyone who disagrees. Wash, rinse, repeat until you are the only person left. At this point, you have to kill youself because no civilized society can allow a mass murder to go unpunished.

Id like some serious answers with no flames attached. PLEASE

Oh, my mistake.

In that case I will say "HOW THE HELL WOULD I KNOW!" I play nationstates amongst other things with my free time. Clearly I dont have the answers for anything.

Simplicity in itself.

Pick a position on something. Kill everybody who disagree with you. Pick another position on something. Once again kill everyone who disagrees. Wash, rinse, repeat until you are the only person left. At this point, you have to kill youself because no civilized society can allow a mass murder to go unpunished.

but that's even more difficult than what i suggested because first you have to divide people based on what position they take on a subject. if you just kill everyone indiscriminately then it's a lot simpler.

Hmm... without killing which is totally against what the outcome is meant to be peace ?

There will be a way without killing some people just cant think that far ahead or are you just trying to be sarcastic ?

Global memocide of the believers in capitalism. That would be the only way to bring about the democracy that would be necessary for world peace.

Global memocide of the believers in capitalism. That would be the only way to bring about the democracy that would be necessary for world peace.

Well said btw..

Any ideas how this could happen ?

There is no hope for world peace. Ever. It's that simple. I'm sorry, but people are to different, stupid, angry, ignorant, etc., to get along. Seriously, how many of you get along with everybody you know?

Well, I suppose there is one hope for world peace. Jesus Christ. But you guys will probably just disregard that, anyway. I suppose you'll see soon enough.

Hmm... without killing which is totally against what the outcome is meant to be peace ?

There will be a way without killing some people just cant think that far ahead or are you just trying to be sarcastic ?

Well, kiddo, wake up. You will never acheive world peace in this present cosmos.

However, I envision a world of relative peace, though it would take bloody revolution, and a mighty strong stomach to do it. The death penality would have to be strictly enforced for violations of the Law such as murder, sexual perversions such as homosexuality, beastiality, pedosexuality, blasphemy. Repayment with interest and maybe a finger removed from the hand for first time stealing offence, a hand for the second, etc. For rape (of adults), castration and repayment with money, property and/or slave service. And speaking of slavery, indeed slavery would be reintroduced, not based on national origin, colour, religion, etc., but based on if the person refuses to make himself useful to society and does nothing but try to leach off the government. Also people who are deeply in dept could make themselves slaves to their debtors for set amounts of time.

What a good start. :)

There is no hope for world peace. Ever. It's that simple. I'm sorry, but people are to different, stupid, angry, ignorant, etc., to get along. Seriously, how many of you get along with everybody you know?

Well, I suppose there is one hope for world peace. Jesus Christ. But you guys will probably just disregard that, anyway. I suppose you'll see soon enough.

Ultimately, yes, but when Christ returns He will kill a whole lot of people first, and then there will be eternal peace. So it seems that there is no way to peace without killing. However, the righteous Judge will kill righteously, whereas we are subject to error in our judgements.

There is no such thing as world peace. It is a worthy goal to aspire to, but it will never occur as long as humanity exists.

Global memocide of the believers in capitalism. That would be the only way to bring about the democracy that would be necessary for world peace.

Actually a "democracy" is mob rule, and there is no peace in mob rule. Contrary to what most people are used to saying, The United States is NOT a democracy -- it is a Democratic REPUBLIC. It is governed by representatives, not by the will of the many.

Hmm... without killing which is totally against what the outcome is meant to be peace ?

There will be a way without killing some people just cant think that far ahead or are you just trying to be sarcastic ?

no, i'm being honest. the easiest way to acheive world peace would be the extinction of our species. after we're all gone, there will definitely be peace.

the best way is an entirely different matter.

However, I envision a world of relative peace, though it would take bloody revolution, and a mighty strong stomach to do it. The death penality would have to be strictly enforced for violations of the Law such as murder, sexual perversions such as homosexuality, beastiality, pedosexuality, blasphemy. Repayment with interest and maybe a finger removed from the hand for first time stealing offence, a hand for the second, etc. For rape (of adults), castration and repayment with money, property and/or slave service. And speaking of slavery, indeed slavery would be reintroduced, not based on national origin, colour, religion, etc., but based on if the person refuses to make himself useful to society and does nothing but try to leach off the government. Also people who are deeply in dept could make themselves slaves to their debtors for set amounts of time.

how the hell is that peaceful or a good place to live? if people are persecuted for their beliefs and sexual orientations, then what the hell makes that a world worth living in?

how the hell is that peaceful or a good place to live? if people are persecuted for their beliefs and sexual orientations, then what the hell makes that a world worth living in?

Actually no one is being "persecuted for their beliefs" in the scenario described above. You need to pay attention to what is being said and not allow your emotions to cloud your thinking. Also, "sexual orientation" is a hogwash excuse for people to commit sexual crimes and get by with it. Not in my world, buddy.

Like I said, it would be a bloody revolution, but the end result would be a rather peaceful society. Trust me ;)

ok, you're talking about punishment for blasphemy. some peopel define blasphemy as anything that could possibly be considered insulting to the christian god.

you're also talking about coropral punishment for stealing. they do that in the middle east and chances are you regard them as barbaric.

and being gay is not an excuse for sexual crimes, consentual sex between two adults is never a crime. nor is beign gay an excuse for anything, people are gay because they're attracted to members of the same sex, they don't become gay by engaging in sexual activity with members of the same sex just as a straight virgin is still straight.

and your world would be horribly oppressive and chances are the people would revolt shorlty after unless you made it even more oppressive by not allowing them to learn, thus setting back the course of human knowledge.

[QUOTE=Dakini]ok, you're talking about punishment for blasphemy. some peopel define blasphemy as anything that could possibly be considered insulting to the christian god. [QUOTE]

Since the Christian God is the only true God, then that which is defined as blasphemy according to the WORD of God, and not to the caprice of peoples invention would be the rule to determine what blasphemy is. I'm not talking about accidental blasphemy, and neither is the Word of God. I am talking about blatant, intentional blasphemy. It deserves the death penalty as it seeks to destroy the Giver of life.

you're also talking about coropral punishment for stealing. they do that in the middle east and chances are you regard them as barbaric.

I have no problem with any society dispensing a punishment that FITS THE CRIME.

1. Abolish all tarrifs and anti-free trade laws
2. Nationalize and cripple the armaments industry
3. Prevent weapons-related commerce/industry/ from rising higher than 1% of the GDP in every country, and keep military-related R&D from rising higher than 10% of the total funds in government, university, and corporate research grants
4. Convert all the dictatorships to democracies
5. Beef up the social-safety nets in countries that need them like Sudan and America
6. Wipe out all foreign debts to developing countries
7. Enforce stricter environmental safeguards
8. Separate church from state entierly

And if you disagree with any of these things, that means you're gay.

1. Abolish all tarrifs and anti-free trade laws
2. Nationalize and cripple the armaments industry
3. Prevent weapons-related commerce/industry/ from rising higher than 1% of the GDP in every country, and keep military-related R&D from rising higher than 10% of the total funds in government, university, and corporate research grants
4. Convert all the dictatorships to democracies
5. Beef up the social-safety nets in countries that need them like Sudan and America
6. Wipe out all foreign debts to developing countries
7. Enforce stricter environmental safeguards

And if you disagree with any of these things, that means you're gay.

If you actually believe this will bring world peace, you are certainly deluded.

Actually a "democracy" is mob rule, and there is no peace in mob rule. Contrary to what most people are used to saying, The United States is NOT a democracy -- it is a Democratic REPUBLIC. It is governed by representatives, not by the will of the many.

Are you saying ordinary people are a mob who can't control themselves? If you are, I should point out that hierarchial institutions probably killed close to 500 million people in the 20th century alone.

When there are no humans, then there is no war.

If you actually believe this will bring world peace, you are certainly deluded.

Of course you think that -- you're a christian.

That means you believe in a spartan war-mongering god who will do nothing but bring war, intolerance and hatred to the earth, which is exacly what world peace is designed actualy AVOID.

and being gay is not an excuse for sexual crimes, consentual sex between two adults is never a crime. nor is beign gay an excuse for anything, people are gay because they're attracted to members of the same sex, they don't become gay by engaging in sexual activity with members of the same sex just as a straight virgin is still straight.

and your world would be horribly oppressive and chances are the people would revolt shorlty after unless you made it even more oppressive by not allowing them to learn, thus setting back the course of human knowledge.

To answer the last first, actually the fear of God is the BEGINNING of all knowledge. Look at all of the nations that are most heavily influenced by PROTESTANT Christianity, and you will find the most intelligent and advanced nations. Those more influenced by all the other false religions are oppressive and ignorant.

As far as sexual orientation goes, all you are doing is stating your feelings as if they were the arbiter of truth. However I use a Standard that is higher than the both of us, in fact, higher than every court on the earth. It is the perfect and objective Word of God. God says that those who live lives of sexual sin (including homosexuality) will be destroyed.

So, if I were to try to make a better place, it would be minus those that are most definitely marked for destruction by God Himself.

As far as sexual orientation goes, all you are doing is stating your feelings as if they were the arbiter of truth. However I use a Standard that is higher than the both of us, in fact, higher than every court on the earth. It is the perfect and objective Word of God. God says that those who live lives of sexual sin (including homosexuality) will be destroyed.

What standard? You're using a book of fairy-tales. Why believe in jesus when you can believe in zeus or shiva?

The "advanced nations" are also the most atheistic, and the most moraly-decadent. They're VERY FEARFULL, I'm sure.


To anyone else here who has a brain, I implore you to ignore this christian fuck.

Of course you think that -- you're a christian.

That means you believe in a spartan war-mongering god who will do nothing but bring war, intolerance and hatred to the earth, which is exacly what world peace is designed actualy AVOID.

Which means you haven't a clue as to what Christians believe.

God conquers all of his enemies. They are either converted and made his children (thought the blood of Christ), or they are left in their sins (which is where they want to be) and are judged and destroyed in the end.

God hates wickedness. But obviously he is very patient. You are still alive.

What standard? You're using a book of fairy-tales. Why believe in jesus when you can believe in zeus or shiva?


To anyone else here who has a brain, I implore you to ignore this christian fuck.

Actually there is a world of difference between the God of the Bible and the gods of ignorant pagans.

I'd also be happy to prove to you that the Word of God is exactly that, but I doubt that you are willing to do the necessary homework.

As far as sexual orientation goes, all you are doing is stating your feelings as if they were the arbiter of truth. However I use a Standard that is higher than the both of us, in fact, higher than every court on the earth. It is the perfect and objective Word of God. God says that those who live lives of sexual sin (including homosexuality) will be destroyed.

I'm flipping through my Bible and I can't find anywhere that it says that. I found a few nice verses though, you might want to think about these...

"You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Can I have your credit card number? I'm a little low on cash... Feel free to e-mail it if you don't want to put it on a public board.

I'm flipping through my Bible and I can't find anywhere that it says that. I found a few nice verses though, you might want to think about these...

Can I have your credit card number? I'm a little low on cash... Feel free to e-mail it if you don't want to put it on a public board.

Well, you see, that's how every cult in the world comes about. Quoting Scripture out of context and taking another hither and yon. Christians, and especially Reformed Christians, take the Word in it's entirety. It is a Whole and cannot be broken. Therefore, the verses that the ignorant think they may leverage with, are only the very words that will crush them in the end.

It's not too late to repent.

Simple everyone looks, acts, and believes the same.

Or abolish relegion and repbulicanism.

Read the verse in context. I believe that the meaning doesn't change whether you read Matthew 5, the entire book or the full collection. God calls us to do good. I'm also very partial to "judge not that ye be not judged and condemn not that ye be not condemned" as well as the entire section of the Law that states that in personal crimes never should any punishment exceed the crime. Read the other "eye for an eye" statements and you'll see that God forbids murder for theft. I think that you need to repent, either that or just read what is perfect truth.

I'm flipping through my Bible and I can't find anywhere that it says that.

Don't bother "flipping" through your Bible expecting to "find" anything. It's not designed for "flipping". Try reading it instead.

1st Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the wicked shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolators, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexuals, so thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor slanderers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

Read the verse in context. I believe that the meaning doesn't change whether you read Matthew 5, the entire book or the full collection. God calls us to do good. I'm also very partial to "judge not that ye be not judged and condemn not that ye be not condemned" as well as the entire section of the Law that states that in personal crimes never should any punishment exceed the crime. Read the other "eye for an eye" statements and you'll see that God forbids murder for theft. I think that you need to repent, either that or just read what is perfect truth.

In the same way that you falsely accuse me of prescribing death for stealing, you falsely understand the Scriptures. I find it so humorous that pagans like quoting the "judge not" verses (once again, removed from their context) as if they were some kind of shield. Do not be decieved, it will not shield you. Your only hope is to repent of your willfullness and sin, beg God's forgiveness and embrace Jesus Christ as he is freely offered in the gospel. You have no other hope.

Best way to peace is make everyone smoke at least an 3 grams of chronic each day. Oh and keep a good supply of beef jerky and baked goodies. :p

I've read it, trust me. I've studied it, I've analyzed it and I love it. I don't love how people will take one thing without another, did I once say how God would judge those people, no. You just diverted my attempt at your salvation, as impossible as it may be.

I know that verse very well, but you left out the best part. Here's the finish.

"And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."

God forgives. From your writings earlier tonight I would say you do not. We should not punish sinners but we should love them all the more.

1. Abolish the concept of countries - everyone should be considered a global citizen, instead of strutting around like an egotistical rooster saying that their particular patch of ground and the particular rag that sits on top of their flagpole is the best.

2. Ban religion! OK, that's not very nice - but I can't see any other way to stop holy wars...

3. Distribute a fraction of wealth from the wealthiest 5% of the world's population to feed, clothe and educate the poorest 50%.

(Wow, I guess I really am becoming a dirty pinko in my old age! :p)

(Please note: these are all pie in the sky dreams, and will never, NEVER happen in reality - Gene Roddenberry's idea of the future {i.e. a unified Earth where poverty and racial/religious conflict have been eliminated} ain't gonna happen folks...)

God hates wickedness. But obviously he is very patient. You are still alive.

This from some1 who would prefer a world of war and struggle over a world of peace and prosperity? If all the spartan religions of the world are vanquished, then there will be no more jihads and crusades and people killing eachother in the name of God.

I'd also be happy to prove to you that the Word of God is exactly that, but I doubt that you are willing to do the necessary homework.

I'd also be happy to prove to you God doesn't exist, but I doubt that you are willing to do the necessary homework.

Actually there is a world of difference between the God of the Bible and the gods of ignorant pagans.

No there's not. Explain them to me in detail.

Try reading it instead.

Try reading something else.

Best way is probably a pastoral/subsistence farming socienty with no technology.

People would be too busy to fight or worry.

But its not likely, one part then can easily take over the world. It's a prisoners dillema.

In the same way that you falsely accuse me of prescribing death for stealing, you falsely understand the Scriptures. I find it so humorous that pagans like quoting the "judge not" verses (once again, removed from their context) as if they were some kind of shield. Do not be decieved, it will not shield you. Your only hope is to repent of your willfullness and sin, beg God's forgiveness and embrace Jesus Christ as he is freely offered in the gospel. You have no other hope.

I must have misread your previous posts, I apologize for any misconceptions I might have had. I also apologize for not quoting the entire chapter, but the moderators frown on the waste of space and I don't want to interrupt our polite debate.

I also like that you indirectly accuse me of holding pagan beliefs, I have not seen you offer any proof that I am any less Christian then you. I do not believe that I am, but without complete information I cannot say that for certain.

Please, repent. God loves everyone, if you let go of your judgmental ways and learn to love Him and everyone else in return you will be saved.

Please, repent. God loves everyone, if you let go of your judgmental ways and learn to love Him and everyone else in return you will be saved.

I am already saved and cannot be otherwise.

God loves everyone in a general manner yes, but God does not love everyone equally or he would save everyone. He obviously does not, and as much may be gathered from Scripture.

The only thing I've done is to quote Scripture, saying what God HAS ALREADY SAID, and asked people to repent of their sins and embrace Jesus Christ as he is freely offered in the gospel while there is still time. If they leave this world in the estate they are in, they will only fall into the hands of an angry God who will punish them eternally for their sins. There has been no lack of charity in my statements. But the good news without the bad news is not really good news! They have to know the bad news first. That they are in big trouble with God and guilty of the blood of Christ.

Haha. Stegokitty's getting curb-stomped here. Glad to see some others out here who want a peaceful world.

Actually there is a world of difference between the God of the Bible and the gods of ignorant pagans.

I'd also be happy to prove to you that the Word of God is exactly that, but I doubt that you are willing to do the necessary homework.

Wow, a Christian that looks down their nose at other faiths ("ignorant pagans")...whod've thunk it?!? :p

All I have done is quote the truth, the bad news and the good. Neither you nor I follow the true word to the letter, I've proved that already in your case and I admit that I am a sinner and can be nothing else. You have already condemned me in your words and most likely your mind. You did the same to Dakini and many other people without any evidence that they, or I, were not saved.

Earlier today I read the book of James. I admit that I am pulling verses out of context, but feel free to read the entire book. It's short enough that the research is actually very enjoyable.


James 1:22
Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says.

James 2:10
For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

Global Disarmament. Not only ICBMs, Nukes, etc., but pistols, Rifles, etc.

No guns at all = peace.

Actually there is a world of difference between the God of the Bible and the gods of ignorant pagans.

I'd also be happy to prove to you that the Word of God is exactly that, but I doubt that you are willing to do the necessary homework.
Bring it on Stego. How can you prove to me that your God is better than that of the Muslims, Wiccans, Jeudaic, *insert religion here*.

Prove to me that you are right.

I think it was Plato that said , In order for man to find peace, he must first prepare for war.

He won't. Intellectual cowardice is such a common feature among fundies like him it's a joke. They have no integrity.

Bring it on Stego. How can you prove to me that your God is better than that of the Muslims, Wiccans, Jeudaic, *insert religion here*.

Prove to me that you are right.

I said I'd be happy to prove that to you if you were willing to do the homework necessary. But based on your responses you aren't. This is not the forum for that sort of study. It requires time. I never said I'd do such a thing in this posting area.

For now, I'm going to bed. If you are actually interested in finding out why Christianity is the only true religion, add me to your buddy list and we can have email correspondence.

I think it was Plato that said , In order for man to find peace, he must first prepare for war.
I just finished reading Plato's Phaedo. Great view on death, etc., it really changed the way I think.

Proving yourself right is something you do on your own time, not his. Prove it here, where discussions are supposed to exist. Because if you're accusing him of just ignoring you, unless he bends over to you so you can preach your shit, you're the one running.

I said I'd be happy to prove that to you if you were willing to do the homework necessary. But based on your responses you aren't. This is not the forum for that sort of study. It requires time. I never said I'd do such a thing in this posting area.

For now, I'm going to bed. If you are actually interested in finding out why Christianity is the only true religion, add me to your buddy list and we can have email correspondence.
Out of curiosity, I think I will. I have all the time in the world, after all, I'll be burning in hell for it, won't I? I might as well get the right reasons for why I'm burning in hell. I mean, for questioning the exisence of God, I'm suprised that I haven't been smote right where I stand... Sit.

Global Disarmament. Not only ICBMs, Nukes, etc., but pistols, Rifles, etc.

No guns at all = peace.

Bullshit! People SLAUGHTERED each other for centuries before gunpowder was even invented. Ever heard of the Hundred Years War, the Huns, or the Mongols? Read up on them.

The easiest way to global peace: eradicate the human race. Period. In fact, it's not just the easiest way, it's the ONLY way.

Instant destruction of the earth or a party of 1 million nukes

He bailed on me, rats I was just getting warmed up. I guess now I can actually contribute instead of hijacking the thread.

I believe that in order to achieve perfect, or even relative, peace in this world morality needs to evolve dramatically. Getting rid of guns, bombs and people of dissenting opinions will only decrease the carnage in the short run. The task is undoubtedly a nearly impossible one, but a fast spreading social pacifism based on Christian doctrine could help in Christian portion of the world and a similar take on Buddhism and Islam is possible albeit slightly more difficult. With the major religions united with the belief in peace could create a foundation where peace could eventually be formed, possibly.

global peace? haha...take out bush and exile him to cuba :sniper: :sniper: :sniper: :sniper: :sniper: :sniper: :sniper: :sniper:

I said I'd be happy to prove that to you if you were willing to do the homework necessary. But based on your responses you aren't. This is not the forum for that sort of study. It requires time. I never said I'd do such a thing in this posting area.

For now, I'm going to bed. If you are actually interested in finding out why Christianity is the only true religion, add me to your buddy list and we can have email correspondence.

Stegokitty, use the "search" feature of this forum and you will find literally dozens of threads where this exact topic has been debated in great detail. In fact, start a new topic if you want - I think you will find many not only willing, but quite eager to debate you on the topic of "Christianity vs. everyone elses beliefs" ;)

Bullshit! People SLAUGHTERED each other for centuries before gunpowder was even invented. Ever heard of the Hundred Years War, the Huns, or the Mongols? Read up on them.

The easiest way to global peace: eradicate the human race. Period. In fact, it's not just the easiest way, it's the ONLY way.
Isolate everyone from everyone else. THe only way to fight would be physical strength, and hell, Humans are too lazy to do that anymore.
: P

Actually, I think the only thing that would lead to global peace (short of the extinction of humans), or at least global unity, would be an attack by extra-terrestrials or a Terminator/Matrix style "rise of the machines".

People are just too fond of disliking/distrusting anyone who isn't exactly like them - if we had a totally non-human foe to concentrate on, people might just stop slaughtering each other over the colour of their skin or which God they pray to...

Isolate everyone from everyone else.
Yeah, that's real practical. :rolleyes:
THe only way to fight would be physical strength, and hell, Humans are too lazy to do that anymore.
And you're willing to stake your life on that? Pretty stupid, in my opinion. News to the contrary is printed and broadcast every day.

Stegokitty, use the "search" feature of this forum and you will find literally dozens of threads where this exact topic has been debated in great detail. In fact, start a new topic if you want - I think you will find many not only willing, but quite eager to debate you on the topic of "Christianity vs. everyone elses beliefs" ;)

Please, I'd rather that you and he didn't. No one is ever convinced and every religion (as well as atheism and agnosticism) on earth is insulted in a virulent flamefest. I'd rather not have to endure another pointless abuse of the teachings of every religious leader throughout history. Please don't.

However, I would be glad to discuss the true doctrine with Stegokitty any time he wants to attempt to convert me. I doubt that I can convert him to Christianity, but I always enjoy a little religious debate.

Easiest way to global peace? A free-spirited and open exchange of airbourne and activated nuclear weaponry. :)

would be a great start.

Yeah, that's real practical. :rolleyes:

And you're willing to stake your life on that? Pretty stupid, in my opinion. News to the contrary is printed and broadcast every day.
It was a joke.

There's a lot of ideas theories out there.

For one, you need a will for peace. That's something that some nations don't seem to have.

Another road to peace we're seeing today is our interdependency. If neighbouring countries depend on eachother for economic reasons they're a lot less likely to make war with eachother. A world that works together is much less likely to make war with eachother.

Most "first world" contries couldn't declare war on the rest of the world without completely destroying their economic dependencies. Many people theorize the age of "Nation States" (not the game, the idea of indepdent countries) is ending and we're becomming a single global community.

Certainly, trade statistics would back this up with the strong enfluence of international markets and the HUGE amounts of money traded every day.

If we keep comming together, even just for personal gain we're less likely to wage war against eachother.

First off, before you can have world peace you need to accept an ever-so important fact about people: They are not peaceful

World peace can only be accomplished if the focus moves to transforming conflict. You can not rewrite humanity. That is why totalitarians failed. You can, however, create alternative methods. Turn violence into contest, turn fighting for land into competing for points, bloodshed into friendly competition. You cannot accomplish anything until you accept the facts:
Humans are predators. But even dogs will play catch instead of gnawing on each other if you can teach them.

First off, before you can have world peace you need to accept an ever-so important fact about people: They are not peaceful

World peace can only be accomplished if the focus moves to transforming conflict. You can not rewrite humanity. That is why totalitarians failed. You can, however, create alternative methods. Turn violence into contest, turn fighting for land into competing for points, bloodshed into friendly competition. You cannot accomplish anything until you accept the facts:
Humans are predators. But even dogs will play catch instead of gnawing on each other if you can teach them.

If you ask me, humans aren't very instinctual. I think that's a realistic view, if less glamorous. We do have base instincts, but we rely on our decision making abilities after that. Abilities that we learn from our experience in the world. We can be taught to be war-monger’s or peacemakers.

The potential for human intelligence is staggering, but in a chaotic world without enough positive direction that potential is naught.

Personally, I don't believe in a concrete human condition connected by base instinct. Humans primarily are a product of the world around them.

First and foremost, there is no easiest way if you truely want to achieve absolute peace...

In my opinion, though it would not be my choice, in order to achieve world peace we would have to culturally cleanse the world via assimilation, condemnation, and yes, in many cases, war and violence. It is true that social and cultural differences are what upset the balance of peace, so the only way to achieve peace would be to nullify them. This would mean balance in every characteristic and aspect in which people define themselves, including social/ monetary status, religion, culture, and race. So, in order to achieve utopia, racial cleansing must occur which is obviously a terrible and amoral means of achieving peace. Cultures must be dissolved and a one core generalized culture has to be developed. The entire world’s people would have to adhere to a single religion. Communism would have to be implemented in order to diminish any social and monetary classes. Obviously, this means utopia is unattainable as communism is frequently proven impossible as shown by the past debacles of history. But beyond communism, it would be impossible to achieve because free will would always create a factor of groups not willing to comply and because society would become stagnant due to the lack of radical new ideas leading to a halt in evolutionary advancement and improvement. This would disallow any solutions for naturally occurring problems that would disrupt stability because no one would have the innovation to make proposals to solve them due to regulated sameness. In addition, stability could only be momentary due to uncontrolled events such as natural disasters that could cause physical and psychological differences in the population leading to divergence or genetic variation (such as differences in physical appearance or mental and physical ability) that would also lead to population differentiation that would upset equilibrium. By chaos theory, it is completely impossible to achieve world peace and also to maintain it. On another point, philosophically, utopia is a subjective opinion and a holistic “world” peace is unattainable. Each person has a different idea of what perfect is and therefore each person is constantly altering the world around them in order to achieve their view of perfection, ultimate causing conflict and of course dispelling peace. Personally, though amongst great tragedy caused by chaos, I would prefer a world without peace because it allows for freedom and free will which I personally value greatly. This also leads to an understanding that removing another person’s freedom for my personal happiness and peace would be cruel and upsetting to that person and quite unfair by me. (But that still doesn't mean that you shouldn't vote bush out of office... hehehe :D)

Some food for thought:
“Nothing is either good or bad but thinking makes it so.” – Shakespeare

This topic is to easy. Kill the Democrats, then the rest of the world would live forever in harmony.

:sniper: Kill all the %$#!!! terrorists. Start with finding Osama, then track down all terrorist organizations and kill them like the dogs they are. No...its unfair to compare them to something as intelligent as a dog. Drag them out in public for all to see, then have them die a slow death by crucifiixion and set an example. We need to send a message that they will not be tolerated and that they will be shown no mercy!! That would be a step in the right direction anyways...... :mp5:

I can't believe how common the "kill people" theme is. Bunch of little Hitlers and Stalins who want take away all the guns and ban religion. These ideas have been tried, and have killed millions.

Please learn about how the world works before you try and change it.

It is simple. World Peace is impossable. Human nature promotes dominance, thus, borders and governments of which a sertain body (mostly one man, as in dictators, kings, and presidents) control a bulk of the country and public view. Also added in is the want for those stronger than you to fall, and those equal to you to be friendly or dead.

America is a prime example. It knows if it jumps into a war with a strong nation it will be overcame maybe, so it prays on the weak. Say a nation (Iraq for a slight example) becomes too strong that may become a problem to the US, well, we take em and bring em to hell. How about Vietnam and Korea? Well, socalism was gainning in numbers, and the americans, and many others thought thier security and power was threatened, so they "supported democracy" in an attempt to gain added support.

Yes it is called homeland security, but what exactly is it? protecting your people? keeping you the strongest to be dominant? all yes.

Also to add, why do you think the USA after WW2 made so many acts, treadies, and contracts to end sertai construction of weapons we have well advanced in and have great supplies in, and other powers slowly gainning? we wanted to be on top, and still do (See Iraq, North Korea. and many others are main threats).

Human nature makes one dominant, well, how about aliens? Who cares. (Just got up to date on some alien sighting and how they are trying to form a new world order)

Now to the whole information on the "Perfect Human", which would be exempt of illness and easily repaired of damages, but how about human nature? will it be gone? Even if it did our hsitory, customs, and so on wouild travel for years onto years until the next five centeries and more (yes, up till at least the 30-45 century, assuming that we have just made the "perfect human")

If I made any mistakes in spelling or grammers (especially in capitalisation) then please escuse me, I am very tired and restless due to the resent evac from hurricane ivan (God, two blocks away from my house is located is where a tornado touched down).

Hope this helped any, or started some other sub-chat.

Global Disarmament. Not only ICBMs, Nukes, etc., but pistols, Rifles, etc.

No guns at all = peace.
There were no guns for many,many years, yet no peace as well.
As this thread proves, there is no way to a "peaceful"peace..we have people like stegokitty, saying what they believe, then being mocked by other people saying what THEY believe, everyone thinks they are right..sure, we could have peace, if everyone was a robot with no ability to form their own opinion..I prefer the freedom to have an opinion. I am a military officer who has fought for that freedom. Even the CHristian God who is being quoted here, gave people the right to choose, right or wrong. As long as people have that right, as well as the right to post their opinions, etc as all of you seem to enjoy, then there will be arguments, and in serious cases, these arguments lead to wars, killing,etc..but a very small price to pay, for the right to be free, not in a general way, but deep, in the soul, every one of you posting, is free..would you really trade the right to have your opinions, for a "peaceful" society?

If I made any mistakes in spelling or grammers (especially in capitalisation) then please escuse me, I am very tired and restless due to the resent evac from hurricane ivan (God, two blocks away from my house is located is where a tornado touched down).

Hope this helped any, or started some other sub-chat.
In general I agree, but as I just posted also, I do not think 100% agreement is the "perfect"human, I think the perfect human is the one that exists today, free to decide.
Also, off topic, but I hope things go well with the hurricane there, I have many friends in the SE affected by the last 3 storms..shitty luck man, take care of yourself.

:sniper: Kill all the %$#!!! terrorists. Start with finding Osama, then track down all terrorist organizations and kill them like the dogs they are. No...its unfair to compare them to something as intelligent as a dog. Drag them out in public for all to see, then have them die a slow death by crucifiixion and set an example. We need to send a message that they will not be tolerated and that they will be shown no mercy!! That would be a step in the right direction anyways...... :mp5:

So...you think that making martyrs of terrorists on television will REDUCE terrorism? Hmm, OK. Let's forget for a minute that some fanatical terrorists are quite prepared to die for their cause, and set aside the fact that the more they suffer for their cause the greater they believe their reward in the afterlife will be (in the case of religiously motivated terrorists). You are giving terrorist recruiters better free publicity and advertising than they ever could generate on their own. Seeing this kind of thing on TV would have people literally flocking to fight for the cause of the people being tortured and killed on TV.

Perhaps it's time for you to stop playing Counterstrike and watching Chuck Norris movies and FoxNews propoganda for 5 minutes, and study some real world idealogy and politics. You can never fully root out terrorism without addressing (or at least understanding) it's causes, beyond a simplistic, childish and uninformed outlook of "they hate us because we are Christian and they are jealous of our freedom". :(

easiest way? kill everybody.
That was my original idea, added with some real thinking and some rational thoughts.

Mud. Give everyone more mud. Mud rules.


EDIT: I've thought long and hard about this, and I'm certain.

Pie.

Mud and pie.