NationStates Jolt Archive


Amerca's Army, The Game

Tippman
15-09-2004, 21:28
Any players here? What do you think about the game? Do you really see it as propaganda, or didn't it even cross your mind joining the Army?

Ill say this, I read in a magazine that now, 29% of recruits mention this game as one of the reasons as to why they joined.
Gawdly
15-09-2004, 21:33
It IS propaganda...but fun and free. Played for six months last year, with no urge to join the army.
Biff Pileon
15-09-2004, 21:34
I play it, but have not in awhile now....maybe I will again soon.
Tippman
15-09-2004, 21:35
Y did u stop?
Belem
15-09-2004, 21:36
thats a good game I should head back to it heard they added strykers in. Im annoyed they never added the RPG game on like they were supposed to.
Opal Isle
15-09-2004, 21:36
I played it for a while, then lost interest...the closest thing to urge to join the Army I had was considering doing AFROTC to pay for graduate school in about 4 years...but that was an idea I had before I had heard of AA...
Opal Isle
15-09-2004, 21:37
thats a good game I should head back to it heard they added strykers in. Im annoyed they never added the RPG game on like they were supposed to.
Uh...they do have an RPG for opfor and the now have USArmy rocket launchers...I'm going to play right now..
Tippman
15-09-2004, 21:37
any1 know when the new patch will be out?
Elveshia
15-09-2004, 21:38
Define "propoganda". It's certainly a recruitment tool, but its damage model is among the most realistic out there and it doesn't gloss over any of the more negative facts of military life (i.e. Goofing off gets you killed. Getting shot gets you killed. Playing Rambo gets you killed. Playing superspy and sneaking behind enemy lines is much harder than most assume, and will probably get you killed.)

I wouldn't consider America's Army to be military propoganda any more than I'd consider MS Flight Simulator to be propoganda for the airline industry.
Tippman
15-09-2004, 21:41
Define "propoganda". It's certainly a recruitment tool, but its damage model is among the most realistic out there and it doesn't gloss over any of the more negative facts of military life (i.e. Goofing off gets you killed. Getting shot gets you killed. Playing Rambo gets you killed. Playing superspy and sneaking behind enemy lines is much harder than most assume, and will probably get you killed.)

I wouldn't consider America's Army to be military propoganda any more than I'd consider MS Flight Simulator to be propoganda for the airline industry.

"recruitment tool" = "propaganda" in my vocab... dunno bout you
Opal Isle
15-09-2004, 21:42
Goofing off gets you killed. Getting shot gets you killed. Playing Rambo gets you killed. Playing superspy and sneaking behind enemy lines is much harder than most assume, and will probably get you killed.
You must not be very good at the game then...
New Ship
15-09-2004, 21:43
I play AA, and I love it. It is much better when you find a clan or team to play with, cuse you get to see the results of your teamwork, and you make some friends along the way. I've been a member of a team for almost a year now, and it is the best free game massively multiplayer out there. Highly recommend it.
Tippman
15-09-2004, 21:46
whats the best free game after AA? Pacman? plz AA is out of this world, mainly because its free, i could believe my eyes when i saw it. I mean this would be a 50€ game on the stands.
Opal Isle
15-09-2004, 21:46
I play AA, and I love it. It is much better when you find a clan or team to play with, cuse you get to see the results of your teamwork, and you make some friends along the way. I've been a member of a team for almost a year now, and it is the best free game massively multiplayer out there. Highly recommend it.
2-28 is hardly MMO...
Opal Isle
15-09-2004, 21:48
whats the best free game after AA? Pacman? plz AA is out of this world, mainly because its free, i could believe my eyes when i saw it. I mean this would be a 50€ game on the stands.
Hmm, the compitition with AA? Halo.

Reasons AA beats Halo.
1) AA is free.
2) Halo is on console--FPS is PC genre.
3) AA is free.
4) Halo is a rip off of Tribes, the best of the classic Online FPSs
5) AA is free.
6) You don't have to buy a suXBox and you've obviously already got a PC.
7) AA is free.

Any other reasons?
Elveshia
15-09-2004, 21:50
"recruitment tool" = "propaganda" in my vocab... dunno bout you

I would disagree. I, and just about every other educated person, defines propaganda as material distributed by a group that promotes or glorifies their viewpoint. I would argue that the AA development team has made a serious effort to develop the game into more of a combat simulator...neither promoting nor degrading combat situations, but instead presenting it as realistically as possible. The fact that some people enjoy combat simulators doesn't make it propaganda FOR the military any more than the fact that some people hate combat simulators makes it propaganda AGAINST the military.

By your definition, any material that imports ANY kind of knowledge could be classified as propaganda.
Tippman
15-09-2004, 21:51
Hmm, the compitition with AA? Halo.

Reasons AA beats Halo.
1) AA is free.
2) Halo is on console--FPS is PC genre.
3) AA is free.
4) Halo is a rip off of Tribes, the best of the classic Online FPSs
5) AA is free.
6) You don't have to buy a suXBox and you've obviously already got a PC.
7) AA is free.

Any other reasons?

AA is free
Goed
15-09-2004, 21:51
Hmm, the compitition with AA? Halo.

Reasons AA beats Halo.
1) AA is free.
2) Halo is on console--FPS is PC genre.
3) AA is free.
4) Halo is a rip off of Tribes, the best of the classic Online FPSs
5) AA is free.
6) You don't have to buy a suXBox and you've obviously already got a PC.
7) AA is free.

Any other reasons?

8) Halo is a weaker Marathon on a better system :p
9) Half Life 2? :p
Opal Isle
15-09-2004, 21:52
AA is free
Oh yea, I forgot to mention that.
Elveshia
15-09-2004, 21:53
You must not be very good at the game then...
Naw, I just work better in a team. Anyone who's played AA knows that the newb who runs off to tackle the enemy head on, alone, is going to be the first casualty. AA is best played as a team game, and the Rambo newbs have no chance against any reasonably organized opposition.
Opal Isle
15-09-2004, 21:53
8) Halo is a weaker Marathon on a better system :p
9) Half Life 2? :p
...I don't understand comment 8...

as far as 9 goes...I don't like anything in that series or released by that company...but it's mainly because it's a different style of FPS. Half Life, CounterStrike, Doom, Quake, etcetera all glorify run in gun. In AA you have to actually be really good to run and gun...
Opal Isle
15-09-2004, 21:56
Naw, I just work better in a team. Anyone who's played AA knows that the newb who runs off to tackle the enemy head on, alone, is going to be the first casualty. AA is best played as a team game, and the Rambo newbs have no chance against any reasonably organized opposition.
When you added the word "newb" in, you fixed it..but in reality, I've been known to get as many as many as 5-6 kills in the first 60 seconds on Pipeline.
(from main pump room, past primary pump to oil exit, knock off anyone who comes in there and surprise everyone when I come up the ladder with the SAW...it doesn't work every single time and therefore I hardly ever use it...but it is possible...in a clan match I killed the entire opfor before anyone got inside using that strategy...it's all about misdirection.)
Tippman
15-09-2004, 21:56
The only prob is the Lag... Seriously, the best map is so lagged out that i've been cariied along by the lag across the map. I speak ofcoarse i speak of SF Hospital.
Goed
15-09-2004, 21:57
...I don't understand comment 8...

as far as 9 goes...I don't like anything in that series or released by that company...but it's mainly because it's a different style of FPS. Half Life, CounterStrike, Doom, Quake, etcetera all glorify run in gun. In AA you have to actually be really good to run and gun...

Many people wouldn't understand comment 8. You have to know Marathon first.

To know Marathon is to love Marathon :p

Having not played AA, I wouldn't know. But...hehehe...CS...

..."Alright, everyone ready?" "Yeah!" "Ok then...SHOTGUN RUSH!!!"


Maybe not the most effeciant, but probebly the most FUN group strategy in that game :D
Opal Isle
15-09-2004, 21:57
The only prob is the Lag... Seriously, the best map is so lagged out that i've been cariied along by the lag across the map. I speak ofcoarse i speak of SF Hospital.
I don't play that map, but not because of the lag, but because I don't like it...and for some reason the USArmy servers have been laggy lately...anyways, all the other maps I play hardly ever lag unless the server is just having some sort of hiccup...and I have my graphics set up pretty high..
Opal Isle
15-09-2004, 21:59
CS = http://www.pwned.nl/
Tippman
15-09-2004, 21:59
When you added the word "newb" in, you fixed it..but in reality, I've been known to get as many as many as 5-6 kills in the first 60 seconds on Pipeline.
(from main pump room, past primary pump to oil exit, knock off anyone who comes in there and surprise everyone when I come up the ladder with the SAW...it doesn't work every single time and therefore I hardly ever use it...but it is possible...in a clan match I killed the entire opfor before anyone got inside using that strategy...it's all about misdirection.)

LOL, so it was you, heh? You're dead now... ;)
Tippman
15-09-2004, 22:01
Many people wouldn't understand comment 8. You have to know Marathon first.

To know Marathon is to love Marathon :p

Having not played AA, I wouldn't know. But...hehehe...CS...

..."Alright, everyone ready?" "Yeah!" "Ok then...SHOTGUN RUSH!!!"


Maybe not the most effeciant, but probebly the most FUN group strategy in that game :D

Play AA, then u can comment, after all... ITS FREE!!!
Opal Isle
15-09-2004, 22:02
Play AA, then u can comment, after all... ITS FREE!!!
True. True. True.
Opal Isle
15-09-2004, 22:04
CS = http://www.pwned.nl/
Of course... sp0rkeh.exe is a real virus...and those myg0t people really are fags (just look at their forums..myg0t.com or something) and one of them tried sending me the virus...maybe because I'm better than them at AA and they're not used to winning at CS because they've been playing nothing but CS for the past 10 years.
Tippman
15-09-2004, 22:08
CS = http://www.pwned.nl/

ROTFLMFAO, LOL OMFG this is too much LOL, i cant stop laughing HHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH. LOL
Chess Squares
15-09-2004, 22:12
Any players here? What do you think about the game? Do you really see it as propaganda, or didn't it even cross your mind joining the Army?

Ill say this, I read in a magazine that now, 29% of recruits mention this game as one of the reasons as to why they joined.
welcome to 3 years ago, i tried playing it but it refused to let me into any servers, same reason i cant play the free game, i think its RTCW, its cheat filters are shit
Tippman
15-09-2004, 22:23
Of course... sp0rkeh.exe is a real virus...and those myg0t people really are fags (just look at their forums..myg0t.com or something) and one of them tried sending me the virus...maybe because I'm better than them at AA and they're not used to winning at CS because they've been playing nothing but CS for the past 10 years.

mygot play AA, kk warning taken