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The most shocking opinion I have encountered here was when a strongly pro-life poster visited a thread on AIDS/HIV and stated that he believed we should kill all people infected with AIDS so that the rest of the population wouldn't catch it. This individual was loudly and vehemently opposed to allowing women the right to choose with their pregnancies, but was equally loudly in favor of murdering post-birth fetuses for the crime of being infected with a plague.

And no, it wasn't a troll poster...this individual was, and is, a regular forum visitor.

Anybody else have shocking experiences around here, beyond the standard troll or visiting flamer?

People actually think they should own a gun

Those fundamentalist Protestant Christians shock me with their ideas as well as scare the crap out of me...

9/11 was justified because the US apparently forces muslim countries to have Mc Donalds restaurants. Some people are just fucking idiots.

All the Nazi's on here....but, really, the thing that shocked me the most is the way in which all regular posters on here worshipped Parratoga as a god despite the fact that she adovocated racism and was vehemently against mixed-race relationships and, effectively, was a fully fledged Nazi (you should have seen her in her early days!!!).

All the Nazi's on here....but, really, the thing that shocked me the most is the way in which all regular posters on here worshipped Parratoga as a god despite the fact that she adovocated racism and was vehemently against mixed-race relationships and, effectively, was a fully fledged Nazi (you should have seen her in her early days!!!).
hey now, not all us regular posters felt that way about her! :)

The idea that someone among us continues to wish and hope only death comes to all gun owners in the US. I do not believe anyone from the (left or right) would wish this upon any person.

Mmm. A wild crossbreed of dog and albatross came up in an issue, once.

I dismissed it. :)

The idea that a regular would advocate an idea like white supremacy and not have it limited to IC mumblings.

hey now, not all us regular posters felt that way about her! :)

Sorry...but nobody really said anything against and if they did along would come Neut and bye bye to that nation! Infact, I even started a thread about how he protects her and he told me that I had a warning and next time....zap!

All the Nazi's on here....but, really, the thing that shocked me the most is the way in which all regular posters on here worshipped Parratoga as a god despite the fact that she adovocated racism and was vehemently against mixed-race relationships and, effectively, was a fully fledged Nazi (you should have seen her in her early days!!!).Ditto. It's not so much that she was mad, but how the mob was reacting to this, like she was somekind of prophet or something.

The idea that you can have pepperoni AND sausage on a pizza.

You know they're just going to start fighting once you turn away..

But seriously, most of the people who feel that you should live your life because they want you to live how they do.

Sorry...but nobody really said anything against and if they did along would come Neut and bye bye to that nation! Infact, I even started a thread about how he protects her and he told me that I had a warning and next time....zap!
that's true. and i also didn't happen on the General scene until Parra was already well on her way to god status, so i was far too timid in the early days to voice personal opinions about other players. i remember that thread of yours, actually...wow, so long ago...:P

that's true. and i also didn't happen on the General scene until Parra was already well on her way to god status, so i was far too timid in the early days to voice personal opinions about other players. i remember that thread of yours, actually...wow, so long ago...:P

Wow! Do you!? Where I printed my conspiracy theory about how the mods protected her?!

I tried everything in my power to get her deleted, I brang up posts from her early days when she would post things like: "gays are burned in Parratoga" but Neut had none of it and instead had the cheek to warn me!

Wow! Do you!? Where I printed my conspiracy theory about how the mods protected her?!

I tried everything in my power to get her deleted, I brang up posts from her early days when she would post things like: "gays are burned in Parratoga" but Neut had none of it and instead had the cheek to warn me!
yeah, i remember it because i had originally been surprised at how mellow and reasonable she seemed around the forum; my first encounter with her was very cordial, and i was having a hard time figuring out how such a reasonable person could be a racist. but then you introduced that thread, and i thought, "ahhh, there it is! now i can see the racist in her!"

It's shocking that no one has realized why there are so many Nazis here: What do you think "NS" really stands for

:headbang:

I liked Parra, I just disliked her racial views.

9/11 was justified because the US apparently forces muslim countries to have Mc Donalds restaurants. Some people are just fucking idiots.

:o

I'd have to agree with that.

The most absurd thing I've seen here? Chess Squares. ;)

yeah, i remember it because i had originally been surprised at how mellow and reasonable she seemed around the forum; my first encounter with her was very cordial, and i was having a hard time figuring out how such a reasonable person could be a racist. but then you introduced that thread, and i thought, "ahhh, there it is! now i can see the racist in her!"

Yes, she was very good at making her racism seem very nice and cuddly and innocent. As I said in that thread, she wraps her evil comments up with emoticons and lols, etc.

Yes, she was very good at making her racism seem very nice and cuddly and innocent. As I said in that thread, she wraps her evil comments up with emoticons and lols, etc.

lol hehe...all the j00z0rs r teykin ofer teh wurld :D

Well how about a certain individuals belief in Eugenics and the fact that certain races are inferior?

At first I thought it was simply shock value but I am not so sure now.....

roach-busters has said some crazy stuff i cant particularly recall

Well how about a certain individuals belief in Eugenics and the fact that certain races are inferior?


I didn't find that in itself shocking, I expect all sorts, what did shock me was that they would reprint articles from the Encyclopaedia Brittannica 1912 edition* in support of their argument. This same edition also contained an in depth desription of the role the luminiferous aether played in the cosmos as a medium for allowing light to propagate...



* possibly the 1922 edition.

I think the most shocking thing on here is virtually everyone's inability to alter or accept the necessity for a change in their opinion.

Everyone insists that he/she is right, by God, to the letter.

This isn't debate. It's bludgeoning with opinion.

You know, I found NS, about halfway through its run *june 03* and missed what I call the good old, pre mod days. I would like a good old fashioned, *keep the kids here ok* FLAMEWAR.

Not just a few posts, but a War.

For the amusement of all involved

Possible contenders for most shocking ideas encountered on NS:

1.) Ronald Reagan was the key figure in the downfall of the Soviet Union.
2.) The USA is superior to all other nations in all ways, even if it falls down in some categories, it still makes up for them in other ways.
3.) That I am an 'idoit' (sic.) because I do not recognise the possession of conventional weapons (high explosive mortar shells and machine guns) as conclusive proof that Iraq was in possession of Weapons of Mass Destruction.

...but the winner is... Cartese for his conviction that his logic was unassailable, despite being deeply flawed right from the very first premise, to say nothing of the 'logical' operations he them tried to perform upon it.

The olde kill the young because the are jealous.

I find this shocking. It was posted by Jim though...

I didn't find that in itself shocking, I expect all sorts, what did shock me was that they would reprint articles from the Encyclopaedia Brittannica 1912 edition* in support of their argument. This same edition also contained an in depth desription of the role the luminiferous aether played in the cosmos as a medium for allowing light to propagate...



* possibly the 1922 edition.

the aether theory(or parts of it) are making a comeback of sorts

You know, the thing about paired particles switched their "spin" faster than the speed of light.

Before you guys flame me, keep in mind I am not a physics major and its been a while since I read the article. I think it was in Scientific American.

When stating what ideas shock you, please try to avoid naming names, if possible; the people you're talking about might take offense and I don't want another topic turning into a brushfire.

In other words, don't flamebait.

Just a general piece of advice; I'm not necessarily directing this at anyone.

Carry on.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation

The whole American superority thing is the most common one that still has the power to shock me.

The concept that so many earnest and well-meaning members actually believe that Anarchism can work as a "government".

"We should stop terrorism by annihilating an Arab city every time there is a terrorist attack."

" American beer tastes good"
shocking because it doesn't taste of anything.

The Nazi thing kinda hit me.

But what really gets me is the buttheadedness of a lot of people. People on BOTH sides. Even after being proved wrong, they...keep...at it! I won't mention names (;)) but that ONE guy from all the gay marrige debates. "It's not right" "Why?" "It's just not, oh, and slippery slope" "Slippery slope doesn't work, any other reasons?" "I'VE ALREADY LISTED THEM, IF YOU DON'T KNOW THEM TOUGH!"



.....I like that word, buttheadedness...:p

What is the most shocking idea you have encountered on NationStates?
Letila.

"We should stop terrorism by annihilating an Arab city every time there is a terrorist attack."
That would only stop Arab terrorism...and only because we would annihilate the entire Arab population...

That Mariah Carey is a worthwhile artist. That admitting you listen to prog rock is acceptable in polite company. That use of the word "fuck" magically invalidates the premise of your argument.

Anything posted by Communist Mississippi would probably contend for most shocking idea

You know, I WILL mention one name. Enod. He scares the crap out of me. Can you imagine that guy VOTING? o_o

Nothing on NS surprises or shocks me ... I mean ... look at the demographics. Most of the people here are children. Children always think their ideas and new and "31337".

camera got them images
camera got them all
nothing's shocking...
showed me everybody
naked and disfigured
nothing's shocking...
and then he came
now sister's
not a virgin anymore
her sex is violent...

Jane's Addiction "Ted, Just Admit It"

People who want to ban any semi-automatic gun. And gay marriage.

I wonder if I've been mentioned yet.

"We should stop terrorism by annihilating an Arab city every time there is a terrorist attack."
Hey that was mine.

People who want to ban any semi-automatic gun. And gay marriage.

Wait, you find gay marrige shocking, or the thought of banning it?

Because if you've just NOW been exposed to it through NS...

..........holy shit o____O

Let me see, I have been frightened by the:

1.) Neo-Nazi and extreme right wing groups that have insane prejudices, demand warfare, encourage death and the simple fact that they exist
2.) Communists that seriously believe any form of democratic communism can work in current society.
3.) Anarchists who still believe that without government, no one would EVER try to take over.
4.) People who consistantly accuse me (as I am Christian) of having convicted and killed all 202 people in the Salem Witch Trials, the tens of thousands in the Inquasistion and for the Crusades as a whole.
5.) The people who actually think that certain things are ok like: rape, having sex with your sister, self mutilation, extreme drug use, prostitution and other extremely illeagal things.

Just my two cents.

-R. S of UC

Wait, you find gay marrige shocking, or the thought of banning it?

Because if you've just NOW been exposed to it through NS...

..........holy shit o____O

No, I just hate the idea of gays marrying. And I hate to hear that semi automatic weapons should be banned.

The idea that cats are better than dogs.
The idea that if you have 2,000+ posts your opinion is more valid.
I'll think of some more.

The most shocking opinion I saw on here was when someone thought that it really would be okay to allow people to marry their pets (if I'm not mistaken).

"We should stop terrorism by annihilating an Arab city every time there is a terrorist attack."
Not just arab cities, cities in any nation that sponsors terrorism. Get it right dude.

Do you mean me?
That came up as an issue for my nation
An option came up which said "why not allow gay people to marry,hell,let them marry their pets if they want"
so I approved it.
And I approve it in real life.
to each their own.

Not just arab cities, cities in any nation that sponsors terrorism. Get it right dude.
The same concept was mentioned in "Swordfish".
I don't agree but I can understand why some people agree.

No, I just hate the idea of gays marrying. And I hate to hear that semi automatic weapons should be banned.What about gays with semi automatic weapons?

Not just arab cities, cities in any nation that sponsors terrorism. Get it right dude.Not just sponsors. Any city which terrorists come from is what I remember. Although my question about whether the UK should bomb the US for funding the IRA was never answered.

I found it quite shocking that that ISP in New Zealand wouldn't do anything about the Michael Jackson spammer.

What about gays with semi automatic weapons?

Not just sponsors. Any city which terrorists come from is what I remember. Although my question about whether the UK should bomb the US for funding the IRA was never answered.
You don't nuke a country with more nukes and the capacity to absorb more damage and keep fighting. That's a no brainer.

I've got a few:
5. The idea that "J3WS RUL3 T3H W0RLD!!!!1!1!" (Actually, that is a quote from me, but I was being sarcastic at the time). Or that any other group, person, organization really is the head of a world bending consspiracy.
4. The idea that war is inherently a bad thing.
3. The idea that the U.S. should be interested in the rest of the world in anyway ("Liberation", foriegn aid, foriegn opinions, etc.)
2. The idea that the U.S. is somehow responsible for every ill in the world, yet has nothing to do with anything good that might have happened.
1. That government interference can ever actually make life better for anyone or promote human growth.

People actually think they should own a gun

What's so shocking about that? Soldiers and police have guns. Even Vash the Stampede had a gun, three actually. Are you an anarchist, since that's the only way you can consistantly oppose gun ownership.

As for me, the most shocking idea would have to have been the whole neonazi thing.

People actually think they should own a gun

What's so shocking about that? Soldiers and police have guns. Even Vash the Stampede had a gun, three actually. Are you an anarchist, since that's the only way you can consistantly oppose gun ownership.

As for me, the most shocking idea would have to have been the whole neonazi thing.
I have a gun. Guns are fun. What's wrong with responsible gun ownership?

" American beer tastes good"
shocking because it doesn't taste of anything.

There are a couple. One that I know of even won an award in Germany! :eek:

1. That government interference can ever actually make life better for anyone or promote human growth.

Yea! Just ask the Blacks in Mississippi! The Feds sure screwed them up!

I can't remember what is the most shocking - I am used to reading wackos' posts after using nationstates for this long, but the most annoying idea is that you should treat a discussion as a fight and completely ignore other people's views while repeating your own in encreasingly emotive language.

Guns form a magical barrier of protection
A symantics game justifies people owning guns
National health care is a ludicrous idea
School should be completely privatised
Vouchers fixes what AA cant
Privatising any agency or program magically fixes any and all problems
bill o'reilly is an independent
fox news is fair and balanced
cnn is run by communists
ann coulter is intelligent
michael moore is worse than ann coulter
everything the swift boat vets say is gospel truth and anything coming from moveon.org is commie lies
guns are a deterrent

:eek: :eek: That Bush could be re-elected!!! :eek: :eek:

2.) Communists that seriously believe any form of democratic communism can work in current society.


-R. S of UC


I don't really believe that it can. America isn't the place for that, yet. There are some of us Communists that aren't actually idealists. I do'nt consider myself to be an idealist, I think that Communism is the most logical of choices for a society in which people don't believe that the wealthy have their best intentions at heart.

Oh, the most shocking thing for me? The belief that a perfectly executed armed revolution in 2005 would be a bad idea. :D

Guns form a magical barrier of protection
A symantics game justifies people owning guns
National health care is a ludicrous idea
School should be completely privatised
Vouchers fixes what AA cant
Privatising any agency or program magically fixes any and all problems
bill o'reilly is an independent
fox news is fair and balanced
cnn is run by communists
ann coulter is intelligent
michael moore is worse than ann coulter
everything the swift boat vets say is gospel truth and anything coming from moveon.org is commie lies
guns are a deterrent
How very right you are...

I have not seen anything here that shocks me.
And I doubt I ever will.

the sheer number of posts some people have

All the Nazi's on here....but, really, the thing that shocked me the most is the way in which all regular posters on here worshipped Parratoga as a god despite the fact that she adovocated racism and was vehemently against mixed-race relationships and, effectively, was a fully fledged Nazi (you should have seen her in her early days!!!).Yeah, that's the way it was for me too. Glad to see that she's backed away from that now that she has returned.

Hmm. Seems my shock was shared by lots of others, namely that 2) there actually would be openly full-fledged Nazis in the modern world, and that 1) people would be willing to overlook that simply because said Nazi was genial and some others (although in the interest of fairness, I was one) weren't.

:eek: :eek: That Bush could be re-elected!!! :eek: :eek:
More shocking that that--that Bush should be re-elected. :D

More shocking that that--that Bush should be re-elected. :D
Make the frightening statements stop! *runs out of room holding hands over ears*

The most shocking opinion I have encountered here was when a strongly pro-life poster visited a thread on AIDS/HIV and stated that he believed we should kill all people infected with AIDS so that the rest of the population wouldn't catch it. This individual was loudly and vehemently opposed to allowing women the right to choose with their pregnancies, but was equally loudly in favor of murdering post-birth fetuses for the crime of being infected with a plague.

And no, it wasn't a troll poster...this individual was, and is, a regular forum visitor.

Ah that was my buddy Inquisitor/Almighty Sephiroth! No?

All the Nazi's on here....but, really, the thing that shocked me the most is the way in which all regular posters on here worshipped Parratoga as a god despite the fact that she adovocated racism and was vehemently against mixed-race relationships and, effectively, was a fully fledged Nazi (you should have seen her in her early days!!!).

Hey, I didn't know that I was worrshiped as a god (it'd actaully be goddess not god).... I thought that was mainly Sephy that was doing that. ;)

Hey, I didn't know that I was worrshiped as a god (it'd actaully be goddess not god).... I thought that was mainly Sephy that was doing that. ;)


Still though, you may act cute, but still scare the crap out of me.

Wow! Do you!? Where I printed my conspiracy theory about how the mods protected her?!

I tried everything in my power to get her deleted, I brang up posts from her early days when she would post things like: "gays are burned in Parratoga" but Neut had none of it and instead had the cheek to warn me!


Excuse me, but that was Naziland that started that thread, not me. :rolleyes: The reason you didn't get me deleted is because I never posted stuff like that. Neut told you to knock it off because all you were doing was harassing me.

All the Nazi's on here....but, really, the thing that shocked me the most is the way in which all regular posters on here worshipped Parratoga as a god despite the fact that she adovocated racism and was vehemently against mixed-race relationships and, effectively, was a fully fledged Nazi (you should have seen her in her early days!!!).

Who's Parratoga? I must be behind the times

The most shocking thing to me are the (numerous) statements that all members of [some particular group of people, examples: muslims, conservatives, liberals] should [have some horrible thing done to them, examples: be shot, castrated, tortured, etc.]

Still though, you may act cute, but still scare the crap out of me.


Well, I only seem to scare people that don't know me. Whether that's a good thing or not, I don't know.

Yea! Just ask the Blacks in Mississippi! The Feds sure screwed them up!

For a long time they did. They enforced the segregation laws.

Who's Parratoga? I must be behind the times


Parratoga was here even before I got here. She was at one time the top NS poster, with over 10,000 posts. Then she left and ceased to exist. Now she is back.

It's shocking that no one has realized why there are so many Nazis here: What do you think "NS" really stands for

:headbang:


I tried telling people: "NS" is an abrev. for National Socialist. Any political based game is going to attract all froms and all extremes of politic view points.

I liked Parra, I just disliked her racial views.

Whatcha mean liked? I'm still here. :confused: :D

I'm relatively new here. Can someone please enlighten me about this "Parrotoga" person? Sounds like something I would find interesting.

The most shocking idea I have seen has to be..

That for stating my own beleif that is not GOD and the bible that i would burn in hell..

These christians would be actually sitting bouncing on their chairs wanting this to happen to me just because i dont beleive in their little fantasy.

Yes, she was very good at making her racism seem very nice and cuddly and innocent. As I said in that thread, she wraps her evil comments up with emoticons and lols, etc.


LOL! *Makes evil comment wrapped in emoticons and lols* :D




:rolleyes: Bah! You just don't like it that I have a magnetic personality and no matter how unpopular what it is I am saying, I can be charming.

I'm relatively new here. Can someone please enlighten me about this "Parrotoga" person? Sounds like something I would find interesting.


It's Parratoga. ;) :p

I have a gun. Guns are fun. What's wrong with responsible gun ownership?

Yeah, we need em to keep the yankees at bay

Parratoga was here even before I got here. She was at one time the top NS poster, with over 10,000 posts. Then she left and ceased to exist. Now she is back.

I see. From reading other posts, it seems that she is an ardent Nazi. Maybe it is good that I don't go to General more often.

The most shocking idea I have seen has to be..

That for stating my own beleif that is not GOD and the bible that i would burn in hell..

These christians would be actually sitting bouncing on their chairs wanting this to happen to me just because i dont beleive in their little fantasy.


Yes, I would have to agree...to me the most shocking thing I've come across (not just here on NS but on other forums too) is Christians, or rather the one's that take sadistic pleasure in the notion of Hell Fire and Damnation.


BTW, Camdean, did you get banned from that bible forum? You had posted some good threads there and I haven't seen you there for a long while. :confused:

I see. From reading other posts, it seems that she is an ardent Nazi. Maybe it is good that I don't go to General more often.

You would be wise not to take hearsay as fact. ;)

The most shocking types of people on here are those who utterly lack any sense, left and right. If you want to say I am one of these people, be my guest.

You would be wise not to take hearsay as fact. ;)

Oh? Then you are not an ardent Nazi? If you knew more about me, you'd probably say I'm a communist, I've been called such so many times that I now often call myself one, so for what reason should I not say you are a Nazi?

Yes, I would have to agree...to me the most shocking thing I've come across (not just here on NS but on other forums too) is Christians, or rather the one's that take sadistic pleasure in the notion of Hell Fire and Damnation.


BTW, Camdean, did you get banned from that bible forum? You had posted some good threads there and I haven't seen you there for a long while. :confused:

LoL i cant beleive someone knew me from there.. And no i didnt get banned i had a lot on my plate and even lost my nation on NS before retreiving it :)

Good forum that was to be honest with my questions ...

As you may have noticed i like to ask a lot of questions on all forums I feel i have alot of gaps to fill and it does interest me a lot about religion.

Its true what you say parratoga some people have been sadistic toward my feeling of religion without trying to understand my view ;) (on NS)

That some of us still post here, and a few have come back!

I don't know why.

*headache* :headbang:

Personally, I get called a Communist far less often than I want to be called one.

I'm still scared of you. Rather than denying what people are calling you, you just joke about it. That's not a good sign, cute as it may be.

Oh, just to start some actual discussion, would a well-planned, tactical revolution be a good idea in the advent of a Bush victory this year? You know, one where some revolutionaries, a few cops, and the entire reigning GOP in Washington die? Just a thought.

LoL i cant beleive someone knew me from there.. And no i didnt get banned i had a lot on my plate and even lost my nation on NS before retreiving it :)

Good forum that was to be honest with my questions ...

As you may have noticed i like to ask a lot of questions on all forums I feel i have alot of gaps to fill and it does interest me a lot about religion.

Its true what you say parratoga some people have been sadistic toward my feeling of religion without trying to understand my view ;) (on NS)

Yes, I love debating and agrueing about relgion as well. I've posted on that bible forum off and on for the last two years, I recognized your screen name. You should go back on there some time. :)

The most shocking opinion I have encountered here was when a strongly pro-life poster visited a thread on AIDS/HIV and stated that he believed we should kill all people infected with AIDS so that the rest of the population wouldn't catch it. This individual was loudly and vehemently opposed to allowing women the right to choose with their pregnancies, but was equally loudly in favor of murdering post-birth fetuses for the crime of being infected with a plague.

And no, it wasn't a troll poster...this individual was, and is, a regular forum visitor.

Anybody else have shocking experiences around here, beyond the standard troll or visiting flamer?

Hey that was me!


I am not prolife by the way!

Oh wait nope wasn't me. I'm pro-choice. But I think we should kill people with AIDS

I'm still scared of you. Rather than denying what people are calling you, you just joke about it. That's not a good sign, cute as it may be.

Denying something only makes one look defensive. My reply was not an attempt to scare you. It's my nature to be enigmatic. ;)

Oh, just to start some actual discussion, would a well-planned, tactical revolution be a good idea in the advent of a Bush victory this year? You know, one where some revolutionaries, a few cops, and the entire reigning GOP in Washington die? Just a thought.

While that would be great if Bush didn't win; I think the military would try to put down any revolution and would in the end make Bush stronger because he'd call the rebels "terrorists".

Hey that was me!


I am not prolife by the way!

Oh wait nope wasn't me. I'm pro-choice. But I think we should kill people with AIDS


Yeah, I'm certain sure that Bottle was reffering to Almighty Sephiroth (fromerly known as The Inquistors).

Oh? Then you are not an ardent Nazi? If you knew more about me, you'd probably say I'm a communist, I've been called such so many times that I now often call myself one, so for what reason should I not say you are a Nazi?


My nation (Parratoga) is a Scandinavian Liberal Paradise.


P.S. There is a difference between IS and WAS....So, therefore I object to the sentence "Parratoga is an ardent Nazi". I won't deny that I did call myself that in the past. However the label doesn't fit my political views anymore. ;)

My nation (Parratoga) is a Scandinavian Liberal Paradise.


P.S. There is a difference between IS and WAS....So, therefore I object to the sentence "Parratoga is an ardent Nazi". I won't deny that I did call myself that in the past. However the label doesn't fit my political views anymore. ;)

So how would you describe your current political views?

My nation (Parratoga) is a Scandinavian Liberal Paradise.


P.S. There is a difference between IS and WAS....So, therefore I object to the sentence "Parratoga is an ardent Nazi". I won't deny that I did call myself that in the past. However the label doesn't fit my political views anymore. ;)


Who did you meet that changed your opinions that fast? It has taken me years to try to change the libertarians I know, and it has taken them years to conclude that maybe communism isn't such a bad idea.

Who did you meet that changed your opinions that fast?

A Nazi.

Hardly anything surprises me. I know some sick people.

So how would you describe your current political views?

Eclectic? I don't have a niffy label this time. All I know is that I am much too liberal to call myself a National Socialist anymore.

not that anything really shocks me here
but i was creeped out when someone seemed to be advocating that teenage brother/sister incest was just good clean fun. he denied that thats what he said but it sure read that way to ME

and i was dismayed to be told that my lack of religion IS a religion. (that not believing in god is a kind of belief) as if someone else knows better than *I* do what goes on in my head/

That Parra changed her views! :eek:

That Parra changed her views! :eek:


Only on some of the political stuff Jim, not on religion.

Only on some of the political stuff Jim, not on religion.
I'm curious as to what has changed.

The concept that so many earnest and well-meaning members actually believe that Anarchism can work as a "government".

you should probably get used to that idea. we're on an international upswing.

I'm curious as to what has changed.

Yes... some details would be good

The sheer hatefulness with which people have attacked others who are unlike them or disagree. The degree of extremism on both sides has been extremely shocking and sometimes makes me want to give up on this place.

That John Kerry is not a baby killer, and that he is a viable candidate.

The most shocking opinion I have encountered here was when a strongly pro-life poster visited a thread on AIDS/HIV and stated that he believed we should kill all people infected with AIDS so that the rest of the population wouldn't catch it. This individual was loudly and vehemently opposed to allowing women the right to choose with their pregnancies, but was equally loudly in favor of murdering post-birth fetuses for the crime of being infected with a plague.

That said person got flamed and then deated for said views

Eclectic? I don't have a niffy label this time. All I know is that I am much too liberal to call myself a National Socialist anymore.

And maybe Manic can describe your personality? :)

Not really shocked, but still surprises me the fact that almost every US poster here assumes everyone is also from the US... I should be used to it by now, 'cause that's something that happens in every forum I participate in, but the way most of the US people seem to ignore there are some other countries out there still amazes me.

Don't know if this hasn't been mentioned already or not as I haven’t read through this thread.

- that the war on Iraq was justified because SH was guilty of murdering USAers. What USAers you ask? The one's who died as a result of the terrorist attacks on 9-11.... Yep, according to Marathon, and quite a few others, SH was the mastermind behind 9-11...

- that homosexuality is evil because of what the bible says...

- that the Patriot Act really is for the good of the US citizen...

- that the USA is the land of the free... :D:D:D:D

And that's just off the top of my head.

I think one of the weirdest things was finding out that people actually still believed in creationism. Now i'll try not to turn this post into a flame but i did find it very stange. Maybe its because i had heard about most of the extreme political views expressed on this forum before but had never heard of anyone who believed in creationism.

I think one of the weirdest things was finding out that people actually still believed in creationism.

Likewise. I didn't think anyone seriously still believed in that after all the scientific progress made in the 20th century.

The sheer hatefulness with which people have attacked others who are unlike them or disagree. The degree of extremism on both sides has been extremely shocking and sometimes makes me want to give up on this place.

I concur. Sometimes there'll be a thread when someone asks the opinion of the posters, and sometimes some posters go after other posters when one opinion conflicts with their own with such fury, immediately putting them down as ignorant and inferior people who apparently have no right to live on this Earth.

I don't really find any thing "shocking" I might if every one on NS was over the age of 25..lol But it's not uncommon for young people to have extreme views, in fact it's normal. When people are young they tend to be more extreme and tend to tame with age, of course there are some times exceptions to that rule. I chalk most of the really extreme views and uninformed views up to posters being young. That is not to say all young people are extreme and uninformed because I know quite a few who are very rational and informed.

I do suspect some times that posters who claim they're older and have these hard core extreme views are being less then honest with us about their age. I have seen people claim to be in their 30's or 40's and talk like they are 15 and I suspect they are either 15 or are very uneducated, one of the two.. again, that's not saying any thing bad about 15 year old kids, it's just that by the time you're in your 30's or 40's one would hope you don't sound like you're 15.. :D

That John Kerry is not a baby killer, and that he is a viable candidate. Yes, exactly.

I chalk most of the really extreme views and uninformed views up to posters being young. That is not to say all young people are extreme and uninformed because I know quite a few who are very rational and informed.

I do suspect some times that posters who claim they're older and have these hard core extreme views are being less then honest with us about their age.

In your experience does this happen more with leftists or rightists?

1. That government interference can ever actually make life better for anyone or promote human growth.
Yea! Just ask the Blacks in Mississippi! The Feds sure screwed them up!

Ok. Please ask the next black Mississippiean you meet how they feel about slavery, segregation, Jim Crow, and separtate but "equal"? All fell under legal support or encouragement by the feds. You might have meant sarcasim, but you hit the nail on the - the federal government sure has screwed up alot of things, and ethnic relations is one of the worst.

And to answer the OP, I have yet to encounter any ideas here on NS that I haven't already encountered else where, so nothing that has shocked me. But here are a few memorable ones, mostly surprising for their ignorance:
A well known poster who insisted that the real world operated "just like the Sopranos" becaus their father said it was so.
The same poster who insists a certain WWII code breaking device is being used by the CIA for mind control.
The recent poster who wanted to know why it was wrong to marry animals.

I concur. Sometimes there'll be a thread when someone asks the opinion of the posters, and sometimes some posters go after other posters when one opinion conflicts with their own with such fury, immediately putting them down as ignorant and inferior people who apparently have no right to live on this Earth.

Yes...and it definitely comes from both sides of the political spectrum, even though some would like to vehemently deny that they do. What's really funny is how some of them complain about it if you attack them, but have no problem opening up with the big guns on others.

The most shocking opinion I have encountered here was when a strongly pro-life poster visited a thread on AIDS/HIV and stated that he believed we should kill all people infected with AIDS so that the rest of the population wouldn't catch it. This individual was loudly and vehemently opposed to allowing women the right to choose with their pregnancies, but was equally loudly in favor of murdering post-birth fetuses for the crime of being infected with a plague.

And no, it wasn't a troll poster...this individual was, and is, a regular forum visitor.

Anybody else have shocking experiences around here, beyond the standard troll or visiting flamer?

I find that shocking, but I find your pro-abortion (not just pro-choice) opinion pretty shocking. (No offense)

A well known poster who insisted that the real world operated "just like the Sopranos" becaus their father said it was so.

However, said poster's track record prior to that revelation didn't really make that one a bolt from the blue.

The most shocking opinion I have encountered here was when a strongly pro-life poster visited a thread on AIDS/HIV and stated that he believed we should kill all people infected with AIDS so that the rest of the population wouldn't catch it. This individual was loudly and vehemently opposed to allowing women the right to choose with their pregnancies, but was equally loudly in favor of murdering post-birth fetuses for the crime of being infected with a plague.

And no, it wasn't a troll poster...this individual was, and is, a regular forum visitor.

Anybody else have shocking experiences around here, beyond the standard troll or visiting flamer?

I'm gonna have to agree with that, I don't think you could get more selfish and evil than genocide so that you can be sexually promiscuous

Furries.

Never in my darkest imaginings could I have imagined a more vile perversion.

And yet.

People actually think they should own a gun


I find the implied notion that gun ownership is at the very least silly or wholly unnecessary, and at the most that gun ownership is reproachable, to be quite offensive. Certainly there are people who should'nt own guns, but as a responsible gun owner and occasional hunter, I consider gun ownership a privilege and, in my country, something protected by law. That being said, I believe that there are certain guns that have no practical purpose, and gun ownership is something that needs to be regulated.

Personally, I find those that believe that the color of your skin dictates your moral right to existence to be the MOST offensive thing. I've seen enough white trash to know that we haven't got anything on any other ethnicity.

As far as extremists attacking others, I don't find it surprising. This forum is not exactly high class, no offense, but I can't stand to surf this forum simply because there's too many angry people with something to prove who would rather tell you you're a horrible person whose soul will burn in hell than have a reasonable discussion.

And if it is safe to say that John Kerry is a baby killer, then is it also safe to say that Bush is an Iraqi killer?

Who's Parratoga? I must be behind the times.
Paz was Forum Royalty......and she was.....is special...

Never in my darkest imaginings could I have imagined a more vile perversion.not even from Pablo? :D

Most shocking idea would have to be anarcho-communism - I've never even heard of it before Letila

Most shocking idea would have to be anarcho-communism - I've never even heard of it before Letila

i'm always shocked by the sheer number of anarchists who play this game.

And maybe Manic can describe your personality? :)


Eccentric would describe my personality. But we were talking about my political views not my personality Seph. I reckon drop the National on the National Socialist.

Paz was Forum Royalty......and she was.....is special...


Why thank you.


Why is it that just about everyone that remembers me has a new nation name? I don't know who I'm talking to. :confused:

I find that shocking, but I find your pro-abortion (not just pro-choice) opinion pretty shocking. (No offense)
What pro-abortion opinion? I must have missed something...

Why thank you.


Why is it that just about everyone that remembers me has a new nation name? I don't know who I'm talking to. :confused:
Some of us have just been resurrected (like the extra year attached to my founding date...2004 my arse!).

Not sure how much of a compliment that was...I think it was refering to the original statement put forward earlier, that I am neither endorsing nor disparaging, that you are protected by Neut.

Furries.

Never in my darkest imaginings could I have imagined a more vile perversion.

And yet.

I dunno. That "girls stuck in their cars" porn you posted a while back was pretty disturbing.

"Oh, no! I'm stuck in the mud wearing inappropriate shoes! Whatever shall I do?"

(btw, long time no see, Gracie) ;)

Let's just say that I'm not easily shocked and leave it at that. ;)

P.S. There is a difference between IS and WAS....So, therefore I object to the sentence "Parratoga is an ardent Nazi". I won't deny that I did call myself that in the past. However the label doesn't fit my political views anymore. ;)
By that do you mean that you have abandoned racial supremicism/seperatism or merely that you now are closer to a different fascist tradition then national socialism?

I dunno. That "girls stuck in their cars" porn you posted a while back was pretty disturbing.

;)I offer 10$ for the link

Why thank you.


Why is it that just about everyone that remembers me has a new nation name? I don't know who I'm talking to. :confused:Im the one who hijaked you original "NS Hall-of fame"

I was Deated so I could have time to feed my pets....saved their life :D