NationStates Jolt Archive

Looking at the forums, I've felt that General needed something new, not yet another "Iraq was good, you suck" or "Gay marriage is icky" or "Bush will be pwned !!!!111!!1" or "Capitalism is 1337" etc etc (and their inevitable counterparts with equally fatuous arguments). So for shits and giggles, I came up with this.

Being an Australian, a few months ago- when I first joined- I kept hearing all these non-Australians talking about liberals and how they were borderline commies etc. For those who don't know, the Liberals in Australia are practically the opposite: disturbingly right-wing/authoritarian basically.

Long story short, to settle an argument, I would like to ask a favour of you: tell me how liberal I am. If, indeed I am at all

I am pro-choice on abortion, but I would advocate regulating it and setting up education schemes in order to prevent said situations arising

I think that in no way shape or form should relgion be part of a government

I do not advocate gay marriage- I advocate the abolition of 'marriage' in it's current state from laws, replace it with a blanket term "Civil Unions" (effectively marriage but between any two people over the age of 18), and include religious-based marriages as a Civil Union, with the respective churches themselves having the authority on whom it is they wish to marry or not (thus 'preserving' marriage for the religious nuts, and providing a non-religious legal relationship for commie-pinko-atheist scum like me)

Military service would never, ever, ever be compulsory. Ever.

Freedom of speech and right to assembly would be held sacrosanct- unless said speech is defamatory (effectively: lies or complete misrepresentations of the truth)

Education and Health would be entirely government funded. Not much else would be though

Market would ultimately lean to the 'right' (as in, free), however, taxation would still well and truly exist and many industries would be regulated (I will leave this one as succinct as I can get it)

No political movement, of any kind, is to be outlawed or banned. Any, no matter how bigotous or racist it is.

Whatever goes on in the bedroom between consenting adults is no business of the state, or anyone else for that matter

Most drugs would be legalized (with the exception of those with the potency of heroin)

I don't wish to use www.politcalcompass.com, mainly because I would rather diversify the opinions that label me a liberal or not

Cheers
Mowens

Cheers 4 stealing the thread topic off me and countless others. Its been done already
(But i'll vote Liberal anyways :p )

Welcome aboard brother...

According to what I believe the current US definitions of a Liberal are you are, and for that matter I am, both Liberals.

Congratulations,

Now do something about your countries immigration policies...

luv ya

Welcome aboard brother...

According to what I believe the current US definitions of a Liberal are you are, and for that matter I am, both Liberals.

Congratulations,

Now do something about your countries immigration policies...

luv ya

Under Howard, our immigration policies can be summed up into two words: "Pacific Solution" (yes, it's actually called that)




(Am I the only one who finds that disturbingly similar in name to another policy known as the "final solution" from somewhere)

(Am I the only one who finds that disturbingly similar in name to another policy known as the "final solution" from somewhere)

Heil!

You're a social liberal but an economic centrist.

Doctor Kanabia's Diagnosis: Liberalitis.

Consider yourself lucky you havent contracted conservatism, its symptoms are far worse :p

As few people on this planet exactly fit either one label or another; I will attempt to catagorize your opinions and give you an overall rating with a conclusion. Please bear in mind that I will use American-based political labels, which may or may not carry all connotations you are used to. Left=Liberal, often associated with the Democratic party, Right=Conservative, often associated with the Republican party.

"I am pro-choice on abortion, but I would advocate regulating it and setting up education schemes in order to prevent said situations arising"

This would place you in the moderate catagory; moderate-left in this election.

"I think that in no way shape or form should relgion be part of a government"

This would place you in the political left in America.

"I do not advocate gay marriage- I advocate the abolition of 'marriage' in it's current state from laws, replace it with a blanket term "Civil Unions" (effectively marriage but between any two people over the age of 18), and include religious-based marriages as a Civil Union, with the respective churches themselves having the authority on whom it is they wish to marry or not (thus 'preserving' marriage for the religious nuts, and providing a non-religious legal relationship for commie-pinko-atheist scum like me)"

I guess your own caveats in this statement speak louder than any words I might use. Political left-wing, but the redefinition argument is commonly used by both sides.

"Military service would never, ever, ever be compulsory. Ever."

Neither right nor left sides of America advocate compulsory service commonly. Sometimes talk of "peacetime drafts" float about, but no one can touch this issue without being burned. No strong ties to either political side of the spectrum.

"Freedom of speech and right to assembly would be held sacrosanct- unless said speech is defamatory (effectively: lies or complete misrepresentations of the truth)"

Absolute, total, and uncompramising respect of the 1st amendment has commonly been linked with the American political left.

"Education and Health would be entirely government funded. Not much else would be though"

This would place you in the left/far-left in this current election.

"Market would ultimately lean to the 'right' (as in, free), however, taxation would still well and truly exist and many industries would be regulated (I will leave this one as succinct as I can get it)"

This would place you in the political center in america...perhaps center-left in this current election; deregulation has been a common theme of the current administration.

"No political movement, of any kind, is to be outlawed or banned. Any, no matter how bigotous or racist it is."

Hard to say; both left and right wing element of both sides have been prone to allow certain groups to be banned. Perhaps this would place you in the "Libertarian" group.

"Whatever goes on in the bedroom between consenting adults is no business of the state, or anyone else for that matter"

Moderate, though you would be considered moderate-left in this current election.

"Most drugs would be legalized (with the exception of those with the potency of heroin)"

Libertarian or Far-left I would assume.

Well, I would say you would be considered left of the political center in America with Libertarian leanings. If you aren't aware of that term; Libertarians believe in the most absolute definition of "freedom" consigning government to the point where it merely ensures public and market safety. They have a small but devout following in America; perhaps some 1% of the electorate claim Libertarian party affiliation. They share some beliefs with both right and left wings of the political spectrum in America, because of their rigid idealological stance.

I am pro-choice on abortion, but I would advocate regulating it and setting up education schemes in order to prevent said situations arising

I think that in no way shape or form should relgion be part of a government

I do not advocate gay marriage- I advocate the abolition of 'marriage' in it's current state from laws, replace it with a blanket term "Civil Unions" (effectively marriage but between any two people over the age of 18), and include religious-based marriages as a Civil Union, with the respective churches themselves having the authority on whom it is they wish to marry or not (thus 'preserving' marriage for the religious nuts, and providing a non-religious legal relationship for commie-pinko-atheist scum like me)

Military service would never, ever, ever be compulsory. Ever.

Freedom of speech and right to assembly would be held sacrosanct- unless said speech is defamatory (effectively: lies or complete misrepresentations of the truth)

Market would ultimately lean to the 'right' (as in, free), however, taxation would still well and truly exist and many industries would be regulated (I will leave this one as succinct as I can get it)

No political movement, of any kind, is to be outlawed or banned. Any, no matter how bigotous or racist it is.

Whatever goes on in the bedroom between consenting adults is no business of the state, or anyone else for that matter

Most drugs would be legalized (with the exception of those with the potency of heroin)
thats enough to get you labeled evil liberal

Education and Health would be entirely government funded. Not much else would be though
this elevates you to commie pinko, welcome to the club brother

Except for the taxation and funding education and health, you're pretty close to Libertarian, actually. Or, for a different term, Classic Liberal. Not a modern liberal.

If you force yourself to follow the American Conservative--Liberal scale, you are a moderate.
After all, Liberals want to censor speech, favor thought police, love welfare, are (as per the moment) loudest in calling for a draft, and would regulate industry straight to hell if given half a minutes chance.
Sorry to dissappoint you.

Your WAY more liberal than me but MUCH more conservative than alot of people on the general forum.