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Honestly no flames please

Faithfull-freedom
15-09-2004, 03:12
I am looking for answers from people that normally dont say nice things about the US. What do you like about the US?

There are certain things that I loved in every country I have visited from Europe to Asia, to the Middle east(even Mexico and Canada has some great qualities). Is there anyone from these regions that can say something they like about the US?
Chess Squares
15-09-2004, 03:14
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La Terra di Liberta
15-09-2004, 03:16
I like the fact that the US cities are much more interesting than many of the Canadian cities, excluding Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal, Ottawa and Quebec City. Calgary, Edmonton, Regina, etc are fine but a US city with a million people or so has alot more going on then most Canadian cities of that size.
Letila
15-09-2004, 03:17
There is really only one good thing about the US that I can think of and that is that it isn't as oppressive as China. That's really about it.
Chikyota
15-09-2004, 03:20
I liked what I saw of San Fransisco.
International spies
15-09-2004, 03:20
(even Mexico and Canada has some great qualities)

HEY! Dont sound so surprised. :)
Chess Squares
15-09-2004, 03:25
i will assume this is about good things about the US

good thing about the US: you can flame it
:gundge:
Stephistan
15-09-2004, 03:26
I think it's safe to say that the USA makes the best movies in the world.
Sdaeriji
15-09-2004, 03:28
I think it's safe to say that the USA makes the best movies in the world.

We make alot of the best entertainment just because of the sheer volume of it we produce. Odds are that at least some of it is going to be good. Problem is that the vast majority isn't good.
Kryozerkia
15-09-2004, 03:28
Uh.... I don't have to live there!
Sith Jedi
15-09-2004, 03:28
Ok, I understand if you got something against the US well okay not really i am totatally :confused: about that, but i understand thay you do have problems. My question why? We are usually very nice people, and after all... we did win our wars... and earned some respect id say... SO JUST WHY!?
The Derelict
15-09-2004, 03:28
There is really only one good thing about the US that I can think of and that is that it isn't as oppressive as China. That's really about it.


If your going to talk trash. Come right out and do it. /sigh
Sith Jedi
15-09-2004, 03:30
If your going to talk trash. Come right out and do it. /sigh you chinese? or just patriot of USA like me?
The Coral Islands
15-09-2004, 03:30
Hi!

Just an aside to La Tierra Di Liberta, Canada is fantastic! I live not to far from Halifax, and it is a great place to live. I like the smaller towns as well. I enjoy the peaceful setting.

Anyway, to address the main topic... I must admit that there are some aspects of the USA that really turn me off (Can anyone say 'Americanisation of the rest of the world' and 'too much jingoistic nationalism'); but there are some good parts as well. Most of the Americans that I have met seem really friendly. Even though certain actions taken by the American government and Americans themselves strike me as disastrous, I do get the impression that they are done with the best intentions most of the time... Another honest good thing... Well, you Americans certainly are industrious. You take capitalism to a strange and frightful level, but that in itself says something about your economic drive. Also, you are domestically peaceful and seem pretty united (This is coming from a Canadian who has experienced moments of "Will this lead to civil war?"), which is admirable in a country with as large a population as you have. What else... Well, despite certain cases of really bad legislation (I am thinking of some language laws in particular, and also the paranoid stance of those concerned with "homeland security"), you seem pretty open when it comes to people in minority ethnolingual/religious groups, which is really heartening. Of course there are other good things about the USA, but I must be getting offline now, so that is all I can come up with. Have a great day, regardless of your nationality,

Breathe Deep, Seek Peace, God Bless,
Kie Turtlecrest.
Kryozerkia
15-09-2004, 03:30
If your going to talk trash. Come right out and do it. /sigh
Letila didn't; in fact, he did say something nice!
Sith Jedi
15-09-2004, 03:34
Letila didn't; in fact, he did say something nice!
kind of... he/she did say ONE GOOD THING and AS OPPRESIVE... so i cant say im the happiest about it (edited on) And ABOUT IT THOUGH
Eridanus
15-09-2004, 03:43
Well, I like America, but if I hated it, for the one thing I would like, it would hafta be: School isn't that hard here
The Coral Islands
15-09-2004, 03:47
... we did win our wars...

Um... You did not win all of your wars...

There was the War Of 1812, for starters. BNA (Canada) did pretty well in that war. I guess both sides can claim to have won, while knowing in their hearts that their side "won".

What about Viet Nam? I never really studied it in school, so I cannot be sure, but I always got the impression that the USA just kinda left without really finishing off.

The two American campaigns in Iraq can hardly be said to be victories, especially this ongoing one. I just do not see the reality of it as being congruent with what the USA originally planned on.

Also, what about all those proxy-wars? You know, the Cold War conflicts where the USA supported one side of this or that battle somewhere in the Developing World while the USSR supported the other side. There were some dismal results in those. That in turn brings up stuggles such as when the USA propped up the Taliban in Afghanistan against the Russians. Sure, the battle was won, but was it really a victory?

Just some thought. What I mean to point out is that every nation has some blemishes. We should always remember not to put this or that country up on a pedestal as some paragon of perfection, when really each could learn from others in some ways.

Breathe Deep, Seek Peace, God Bless,
Kie Turtlecrest.
Godtfolk
15-09-2004, 03:50
Do you mean the goverment/politics or anything concerning the US,cause i cant find anything I like about how the US is run,however,many nice people and things come from the US.
I love The Doors,MC5,Rage Against the Machine,Jimi Hendrix and most of all Ronnie James Dio.
I hate and love your cars in some strange way, I kinda hate all cars and the americans specially because of their pollution,size and like that,but they are really cool(old 60-70's Chevrolet's and such)

I like much of the nature(or whats left of it anyways :rolleyes:)
I like Jackson and Gibson guitars.

Hmm,I kinda thought Id come up with more, I am truly disappointet that I cant find more stuff I like about the US, but then again, theres probably a whole lot of stuff Im not aware of that the US has got.
The Derelict
15-09-2004, 03:51
Letila didn't; in fact, he did say something nice!


Ohh yeah. Your not as oppressive as one of the most oppressive countries. Gee thanks. And thats about it. Like I said, if your going to talk trash come right out and do it.


And Sith no I'm not Chinese lol. Just love my nation.
La Terra di Liberta
15-09-2004, 04:29
The Coral Islands, I love living in Canada. It's just I live in Regina and well, it's not small enough to be peaceful but nothing ever really interesting ever happens. I found the city of Minot, North Dakota which is about 65 000 people to have things in it that Regina doesn't. Like I said, I'm very patrotic but alot of Western Canadian cities aren't that exicitng. Eastern Canada is very cool, especially Quebec and the Maritimes. By the way, where do you live near Halifax. Two years ago, my family did a driving tour of New Brunswick, P.E.I. and Nova Scotia and when we were in Halifax, we visited several small towns around there including Lunnenbourg, Peggy's Cove, a bunch of little fishing towns, Digby, Annapolis Royal, Truro, Dartmouth, etc. Would it be any of those? We only had 3 days in Nova Scotia though and 2 in New Brunswick and P.E.I., so I'm itching to get back and see more.
Camdean
15-09-2004, 04:33
Like many people i have a hit-list of places i want to visit before i die..

And america is in the top 5 because ive seen it so much on T.V i wanna see it for myself, the food is meant to be massive (big huge cheese-burgers) the clothes are meant to be cheaper than the UK, NACSAR, Rollercoasers + themeparks and the heat :)
The Force Majeure
15-09-2004, 04:35
Like many people i have a hit-list of places i want to visit before i die..

And america is in the top 5 because ive seen it so much on T.V i wanna see it for myself, the food is meant to be massive (big huge cheese-burgers) the clothes are meant to be cheaper than the UK, NACSAR, Rollercoasers + themeparks and the heat :)

haha...sounds like you are headed to the deep south....
Kryozerkia
15-09-2004, 05:12
Ohh yeah. Your not as oppressive as one of the most oppressive countries. Gee thanks. And thats about it. Like I said, if your going to talk trash come right out and do it.


And Sith no I'm not Chinese lol. Just love my nation.
So, why didn't you pick on my comment then, if you consider Letila's comment to be talking trash?
Faithfull-freedom
15-09-2004, 16:08
Uh.... I don't have to live there!

Because I take this as a compliment Kryozerkia. This means you think of us as being the exact opposite as cuba. That is a great compliment!

No really, I could even find a good thing about cuba, its people. The people of every single country have good people among them. Something I noticed in Kuwait, Iraq, UAE Dubai, Bahrain was respectful people and good deals in the gold souks(sp). Cheap 24k gold!

The people of South Korea are great as well. I liked haggling with the people in the shops around there.

Australia is just bad ass, love the atmosphere in every bar I went into. Great people and great beer! Even the outback is bad ass to camp out in. Also I was amazed at how much fun thier rodeo's are. Anyone can get out there and ride a bull (or attempt to)!

Germany, again some great beer and I liked the tops on some of those bottles.

Ireland, damn maybe I am infatuated with beer? lol beautiful countryside as well.

Mexico has some really good hard working and family oriented people.

Canada as I have stated prior, has great entertainment and recreational things to do.

I am sure I am forgetting somewhere that I have been, but if I do not remember a bad experience it must of been good.

I usualy speak only good things about the US so I felt it neccasary to say something nice about others.
Iztatepopotla
15-09-2004, 16:19
Ok, I understand if you got something against the US well okay not really i am totatally :confused: about that, but i understand thay you do have problems. My question why? We are usually very nice people, and after all... we did win our wars... and earned some respect id say... SO JUST WHY!?

Mostly because the US uses its military and economic might to force other nations to bend to its will; especially when it comes to economic policies and unfair trade. Also, how they have supported "friendly" governments even at the expense of the people. Of course, the US is not the only country to have ever used these policies, but it's the most current one.

Some people also feel threatened by the invasion of US culture on their own traditions and media, but it's not really that many. Mostly it's the points above.

Now, since the thread is about what's good with the USA, I would say the money they spend on science and how outspoken the people are (which can be annoying but it's mostly a good thing).
Big Jim P
15-09-2004, 16:40
I like The USA because, it was stolen from the natives, built on slavery,was and is dependent on immigrants, and still will listen to poeple who want to keep America "pure"
Oshirii
15-09-2004, 16:49
Well, I'm from America, and honestly, I don't like it most of the time. I like <some> of the movies, but I'm addicted to foreign films.. music. Ah. We have some wicked bands. Then again, so do most countries. I like our cultural blending. Oh, the melting pot. I think that alot of the time we're pretty hypocritical, though. We are pretty tolerant I guess, but there's a lot of racism and sexism etc still here. Why does it have to stop at tolerance anyway? Why not have acceptance?
Gee, I'm such an idealist.
Fredhonkopia
15-09-2004, 16:56
[B]Without a doubt in my mind I can say the US is the greatest country in the world. We get alot of crap for sticking our necks out to help others, but only from people that think free will governs the rest of the world and from people that wear speedos and don't bathe at regular intervals. I am an American, and I am freaking proud of it.
GodKing Dark Schneider
15-09-2004, 17:01
What is most important is that at least the U.S. does somthing. The U.S. dosent always get it right, but at least it does not sit back and do nothing. The U.S. has made a lot of mistakes in the past and for the most part admits to them. Vietnam was brought up as an example, yes the U.S. made a lot of mistakes there, and has spent the last thirty years going over the lessons. Heck, we screwed up in Iraq back in 1980 as part of our cold war. So we have a responcibility to correct ourselves. There are a million goods and a million evils that can be debated foreaver, but the bottom line is at least the U.S. tries, which is a lot more than can be said for a lot of other nations.

Also keep in mind after WWII the U.S. was put in the position of "protecting" the free world by the rest of the world. So few are willing to stand up for what they believe in and fight.

"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the grey twilight that knows not victory nor defeat." --Theodore Rosevelt


Also the price of freedom is eternal vigilance; a price that must be paid by every generation.
Ookopolis
15-09-2004, 17:07
Like many people i have a hit-list of places i want to visit before i die..

And america is in the top 5 because ive seen it so much on T.V i wanna see it for myself, the food is meant to be massive (big huge cheese-burgers) the clothes are meant to be cheaper than the UK, NACSAR, Rollercoasers + themeparks and the heat :)

Come on down south Camdean, you'll find that in the southern states we are very polite and willing to do about anything to help out a stranger. Provided that stranger isn't gay, black, or hispanic. ;)

I kid. Actually one of the things I adore about America is the fact that in my small southern town, I can go to a Chinese restaurant and see all kinds of people and families eating their dinners. Hispanics, good ole boys, Indians, and just plain folks sitting back and struggling with chopsticks over some General Tso's Chicken. America the beautiful indeed.
Iztatepopotla
15-09-2004, 17:09
Also keep in mind after WWII the U.S. was put in the position of "protecting" the free world by the rest of the world. So few are willing to stand up for what they believe in and fight.


The US was not put in a position to protect anything but their own interests. And this is another thing that disconcerts me from Americans, the belief that all they do is for the good of others, that they are so pure and righteous and have to protect the rest of the world from its own wickedness and evil.

This is simply not so, the rest of the world has very different ideas about what's good and what's not and the US should stop trying to dictate them. Also the rest of the world has to be allowed to make its own decisions, even bad decisions and even if they are not in the best interests of the US.
GodKing Dark Schneider
15-09-2004, 17:11
The U.S. believed in isolationism, what made it change so much. Was it internal external or both.....

Also I believe that in situations where governments kill their own people because of their beliefs; then yes not just the U.S. but every nation of the world has a responcibility to step in. There are grey areas about good and evil but there are some things that are clear cut evil and in those situations humanity as a whole has a responcibility to itself to correct its mistakes.

Might does not make right. Strength should be used to protect those who cannot protect themselves.
Dettibok
15-09-2004, 17:33
I am looking for answers from people that normally dont say nice things about the US. What do you like about the US? They did keep the communists at bay, and did so without turning the earth into a cinder. I do have harsh criticisms of some of the means used, but they do deserve kudos for containing the USSR and for continuing to contain China. Oh, and let's not forget WW II.

Also, the United States has been a hotbed of innovation in the past. They've made an enormous contribution to scientific and technological knowledge.

Oh, and landing a man on the moon, way cool! Way expensive, :ouch:!