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Turn to the lord ?

Camdean
14-09-2004, 14:26
Ive heard so many people from america and some from britain tell me that when they turned to the lord he did answer their prayers (coincidence) Well its never once worked for me..

But when i did turn to satan for help it worked (coincidence)

Anyone know what i mean ?
Meriadoc
14-09-2004, 14:31
I think it's safe to say that God knows what He's doing, though sometimes we mortals don't.
Englobad
14-09-2004, 14:38
Amen
Camdean
14-09-2004, 14:48
I think it's safe to say that God knows what He's doing, though sometimes we mortals don't.


Well how come satan helped me and the lord didnt ?
Legless Pirates
14-09-2004, 14:52
Well how come satan helped me and the lord didnt ?
maybe you didn't ask nicely
Star Shadow-
14-09-2004, 14:53
Well how come satan helped me and the lord didnt ?
satan didn't help you he just didn't do anything to you which is sad sorta, I hate people who say your life will be easy if you obey god, which is complete ******** god might not answer becasue you only asked not seeked or maybe you where asking something stupid.
Camdean
14-09-2004, 14:57
satan didn't help you he just didn't do anything to you which is sad sorta, I hate people who say your life will be easy if you obey god, which is complete ******** god might not answer becasue you only asked not seeked or maybe you where asking something stupid.


Me and my pals have talked this through many times and coincidence linked to what you want and a mind who beleives in fantasy can lead astray(spelling) real feelings of self-control ...
STICK OF PAIN
14-09-2004, 15:38
Y'know, Satan will help you more if you play Dungeons and Dragons and listen to heavy metal. Give it a try :D
Star Shadow-
14-09-2004, 15:44
Y'know, Satan will help you more if you play Dungeons and Dragons and listen to heavy metal. Give it a try :D
Grabs his Sword Of Power*
Hey I Play DND.
Aeysha
14-09-2004, 16:13
Satan doesn't need to do anything. humans are evil enough without him as it is.


"For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing"
Camdean
14-09-2004, 16:17
In all honesty Satan is about as real as Jesus..

Some people find comfort in it well good for them, a long time to go untill this world has a real grip on reality concerning fantasy books as a way to be good when passing on knowledge is surely better from self-expereince.
Adullam
14-09-2004, 16:26
Of course Satan is as real as Jesus, thats because God created him too. Why would God help someone that he knows is going to turn to his enemy in the future, I know I wouldn't. Just think about where you loyalities are, because I would hate for it to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, when it is too late.
Camdean
14-09-2004, 16:36
Of course Satan is as real as Jesus, thats because God created him too. Why would God help someone that he knows is going to turn to his enemy in the future, I know I wouldn't. Just think about where you loyalities are, because I would hate for it to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, when it is too late.

What a good guy GOD is lol creating the power that makes us bad

Geez wont some people see that its just some people and their up bringing not a big red horned guy from the pits of kaza doom that makes people bad
Astonya
14-09-2004, 16:41
concerning fantasy books as a way to be good

Is that what you think the point of religion is .. to be good! I would have said religion (as oppose to spirituality) is purely there as a tool to manipulate people through fear and guilt,and to allow the justification of many things that would be totally unjustifiable any other way. Why else is there such a link between religion and the state? Surely if someone wants an experience of a God (assuming there is one) or any other kind of entity they don't any kind of book of rules telling them how to do so or any other person to fix it for them to do so.
Camdean
14-09-2004, 16:58
Is that what you think the point of religion is .. to be good! I would have said religion (as oppose to spirituality) is purely there as a tool to manipulate people through fear and guilt,and to allow the justification of many things that would be totally unjustifiable any other way. Why else is there such a link between religion and the state? Surely if someone wants an experience of a God (assuming there is one) or any other kind of entity they don't any kind of book of rules telling them how to do so or any other person to fix it for them to do so.

Exactly mate religion is just a tool for hate and war as ive seen it used all my life- when concerning being good ive heard countless people claim without the bible they cant teach good and wont - they continue to brainswash generation after generation and for what - ? As we all know learning the rights and wrongs is not hard in fact its dead easy once you mature past 15

Its making more zombies who are going to be used from this tool as puppets
Demented Hamsters
14-09-2004, 17:46
A few yars ago, I once spent twenty minutes praying to God to fix the gear box on my car.
Did he?
Did he hell! If anything he made it worse! The following week I couldn't even get it into 3rd gear. It cost me a fortune to repair it.
Surely this proves that God doesn't exist.
Camdean
14-09-2004, 17:51
A few yars ago, I once spent twenty minutes praying to God to fix the gear box on my car.
Did he?
Did he hell! If anything he made it worse! The following week I couldn't even get it into 3rd gear. It cost me a fortune to repair it.
Surely this proves that God doesn't exist.


Its better than the foundations ive seen to proove that he does exist ;)
The God King Eru-sama
14-09-2004, 18:06
You can pray to anything and enjoy the same success rate. Be creative!
Camdean
14-09-2004, 18:09
You can pray to anything and enjoy the same success rate. Be creative!

Geez how true it is m8 (serious) if your praying for something usually it includes the 50/50 chance of it happening or not - which means 50% of people who claim god helped them are a part of the coincedence that could be decided by flipping a coin..

* im going to pray to my £1 coin and flip it for the answer .. heads or tails ? *
Ankher
14-09-2004, 19:33
Ive heard so many people from america and some from britain tell me that when they turned to the lord he did answer their prayers (coincidence) Well its never once worked for me..
But when i did turn to satan for help it worked (coincidence)
Anyone know what i mean ?Get real.
Misterio
14-09-2004, 19:35
Ive heard so many people from america and some from britain tell me that when they turned to the lord he did answer their prayers (coincidence) Well its never once worked for me..

But when i did turn to satan for help it worked (coincidence)

Anyone know what i mean ?

You're wasting your time praying to God. He doesn't exist.

Satan, however, does. Go to him. At least He'll talk to you. :)
Petesville Hagley
14-09-2004, 19:47
Satan doesn't need to do anything. humans are evil enough without him as it is.


"For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing"

Would you all just SHUT THE FUCK UP? Why not make my life easier and agree to disagree with all matters pertaining to religion? Do it now, please.

<mutters some more profanities and walks off>
Goed
14-09-2004, 20:09
"Truly, if there is evil in the world, it lies in the hearts of men."

Yeah, some little red guy makes it evil...ok...:rolleyes:

"So to get around a lot of this, I decided to worship the sun. But, as I said, I don't pray to the sun. You know who I pray to? Joe Pesci. Two reasons: First of all, I think he's a good actor, okay? To me, that counts. Second, he looks like a guy who can get things done. Joe Pesci doesn't fuck around. In fact, Joe Pesci came through on a couple of things that God was having trouble with.

For years I asked God to do something about my noisy neighbor with the barking dog, Joe Pesci straightened that cocksucker out with one visit. It's amazing what you can accomplish with a simple baseball bat."

-Carlin :D
Pineapple Joe-bot
15-09-2004, 03:11
Why would God help someone that he knows is going to turn to his enemy in the future, I know I wouldn't.


Lucifer isn't the enemy of the Judeo-Christian God. He's just doing his job. Running Hell, just as God intended him to do. You can't have a heaven without a hell.
Camdean
15-09-2004, 03:13
Lucifer isn't the enemy of the Judeo-Christian God. He's just doing his job. Running Hell, just as God intended him to do. You can't have a heaven without a hell.

Imagine him there with his playstation 2 laughing with god at us pathetic morals in their domain LOL
Mikallah
15-09-2004, 03:21
A few yars ago, I once spent twenty minutes praying to God to fix the gear box on my car.
Did he?
Did he hell! If anything he made it worse! The following week I couldn't even get it into 3rd gear. It cost me a fortune to repair it.
Surely this proves that God doesn't exist.

By that statement, god DOES exist...

... But he hates you :(
Homocracy
15-09-2004, 03:23
I never understood the idea of taking time to pray to an omniscient being. He knows what you want, just get on with working towards it and hope he'll help out.
Noddingham
15-09-2004, 04:22
heres my view:

there is a god, but he doesnt care about stupid little prayers that most people pray about. he also doesnt care about all this organized religion stuff, because he just uses that to get more followers. he just wants everyone to be good and help each other out and follow the 10 commandments (probably).
then again, how can we be sure that some moron didnt just make up the bible from his imagination and trick people into following him? after all, the catholic church lied to people for hundreds of years, and still does, because people are too lazy to examine their faith closely and decide what they truly believe instead of blindly believing whatever their minister or whoever tells them to believe.
whether the bible is real or not, i still think there is an omnipresent being that created everything, but NOT the way thats described in the bible. more like god created science, and used science to create everything else.
Camdean
15-09-2004, 04:25
There is a thread for what your saying m8, I wouldnt mind a MOD closing this or deleting it please