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Racist Scum: Defend This!

Gymoor
14-09-2004, 06:43
I got nothing, just wanna see who shows up. We really have to isolate the racist scum gene though.
Big Jim P
14-09-2004, 06:47
It isolates itself through lack of diversity. No hybrid-vigor.
Texas and Colorado
14-09-2004, 06:49
Define racist scum. All white black what?
Gymoor
14-09-2004, 06:55
Define racist scum. All white black what?

How can one define racism by race? :confused:
Fascist Ideals
14-09-2004, 07:04
Define racist scum. All white black what?

Probably most people are racist. White, black, Asian etc. It's a fact of life. If we weren't racist then we'd all be interbreeding. America would be a nightmare of "brown people", with no remembered racial/ethnic culture. Even with all the crap force-fed by liberals and neocons through the educational system and the media and the government, the vast majority of people tend to marry within the race. And by doing so, they express a
racial preference. It's a form of racism, even though most people don't even know it.
BLARGistania
14-09-2004, 07:05
weee! I'm here.

*pulls outs cigarette and shot glass*
TheOneRule
14-09-2004, 07:08
How can one define racism by race? :confused:

Spike Lee did. He said that it was impossible for a black to be racist. It had to do with his definition of racism...

I understand how people can hate simply because of color... disappoints me, makes me feel sorry for them... makes me want to keep a close eye on them too.
The Class A Cows
14-09-2004, 07:11
Probably most people are racist. White, black, Asian etc. It's a fact of life. If we weren't racist then we'd all be interbreeding. America would be a nightmare of "brown people", with no remembered racial/ethnic culture. Even with all the crap force-fed by liberals and neocons through the educational system and the media and the government, the vast majority of people tend to marry within the race. And by doing so, they express a
racial preference. It's a form of racism, even though most people don't even know it.

Interracial marraige is becoming more common here, and it is one of the ways native americans survived their rapid population decline due to disease and war. Besides, the brown skin nightmare isnt a big deal, it wouldnt really come to pass and even if it did it wouldnt really be a bad thing. I remember this beautiful girl i saw with very white skin and blond hair, and a very thin and short stature. Her biological father was chinese, as i discovered during a meeting one year ago. Her complexion is as white if not whiter than mine. What brown people? Diffrences will in fact remain to some degree. Even if they are reduced, that wouldnt be a bad thing.
TheOneRule
14-09-2004, 07:12
Probably most people are racist. White, black, Asian etc. It's a fact of life. If we weren't racist then we'd all be interbreeding. America would be a nightmare of "brown people", with no remembered racial/ethnic culture. Even with all the crap force-fed by liberals and neocons through the educational system and the media and the government, the vast majority of people tend to marry within the race. And by doing so, they express a
racial preference. It's a form of racism, even though most people don't even know it.

I have to disagree, simply because my definition of racism is probably different from yours.
People arent racist by nature, but they are prejudicial. Humans are willing to pre-judge people based on their color/appearance. Racism for me includes hate. People dont hate naturally. Not that Im aware of at least.
THE LOST PLANET
14-09-2004, 07:26
Probably most people are racist. White, black, Asian etc. It's a fact of life. If we weren't racist then we'd all be interbreeding. :D Yep, some of us have been for generations, my family first crossed the imaginary line between 'races' sometime in the early 19th century. Guess we're not racist. Time for the rest of you to catch up.America would be a nightmare of "brown people", with no remembered racial/ethnic culture. :mad: Wait a minute there asshole, 'nightmare'? I remember my heritage, all of them, just fine. And where do you get off calling me and mine a 'nightmare of "brown people"?
ThreadAssassins
14-09-2004, 07:34
If we weren't racist then we'd all be interbreeding.
Wait a minute. If I'm sexually attracted to some white people and some asian people but not to as many African American people (still some, but generally fewer than the other two), that makes me racist?
BackwoodsSquatches
14-09-2004, 07:38
Probably most people are racist. White, black, Asian etc. It's a fact of life. If we weren't racist then we'd all be interbreeding. America would be a nightmare of "brown people", with no remembered racial/ethnic culture. Even with all the crap force-fed by liberals and neocons through the educational system and the media and the government, the vast majority of people tend to marry within the race. And by doing so, they express a
racial preference. It's a form of racism, even though most people don't even know it.



No.

Most people have prejudices .
Thats different.
Not everybody is a rascist.
If that were true, we'd live in some post-war "RaHoWa", goosestepping and wearing red shoelaces to represent our "pure" blood, huh?
That'd be great huh?
Being afraid to encounter anyone different than you, just becuase they might kill you for no reason other than they hate you?
Or maybe, they'd decide that you shouldnt even live near them becuase you might "pollute" the area, just by living in it...

Now suppose that they (those big scary minorities) decide to bust into your house , and put a rope around your neck, and burn a cross on your yard?


Wait.....that sounds familiar....

Oh.

I guess you'd have it coming then, Huh?
Gymoor
14-09-2004, 08:04
Yay for interbreeding! I think it's bad business to be prejudiced against ANY kind of booty.
NianNorth
14-09-2004, 08:12
In a study done about attraction it was proposed that the reason people find individuals of the same race more attractive is down to a subconscious preference for a mate that is genetically different from you but not too different. In other words you don’t want some one that shares your direct bloodline, so don’t want some one that looks too similar to a member of your family (as it could turn out they are related). But you want someone who has similar genetics so the chance of genetic clashes and problems is lessened, so you tend to be attracted to members of the same race or of another similar race. This is all done with out thought and with everything in the animal and human world is a tendency not an absolute rule.
Helioterra
14-09-2004, 08:25
Probably most people are racist. White, black, Asian etc. It's a fact of life. If we weren't racist then we'd all be interbreeding. America would be a nightmare of "brown people", with no remembered racial/ethnic culture. Even with all the crap force-fed by liberals and neocons through the educational system and the media and the government, the vast majority of people tend to marry within the race. And by doing so, they express a
racial preference. It's a form of racism, even though most people don't even know it.

Scientifically, there are no races. If you believe in races, you're a racist. There are only diffrent cultures and enviromental based chances in skin color and height etc, but no different races.
Helioterra
14-09-2004, 08:30
Anyway, how do you people, who think there are races, define a race?
NianNorth
14-09-2004, 08:31
Scientifically, there are no races. If you believe in races, you're a racist. There are only diffrent cultures and enviromental based chances in skin color and height etc, but no different races.
I sort of agree with what you are trying to say but there are some significant gentic differences between populations around the world. It is these reconised groups of gentic trates that scinetist call race, they may not manifest themselves physicaly but they exist. But Race is just a convinient grouping tool, the fact that it has been terribly misused does not make it invalid.
Ticklishiousness
14-09-2004, 08:40
well here's my POV:

white ppl r always shown as the most racist group of ppl, wen in fact, blacks and asians slag off white ppl just as much.
dont u just luv how if a white person calls a black person a ****** they're "discusting" and "racist", but if a black person slags off a white person because they're white nobody thiks anything of it?

racism is just one of those thing that is difficult to defign.
i hav predjudices against aboriginals as a group, as they get spoon-fed evrything by the government, and r stil allowed to complain about it. individually, a lot of them r pretty good, but the group as a whole r not in my good books.
my 2c anyway...
Helioterra
14-09-2004, 08:53
I sort of agree with what you are trying to say but there are some significant gentic differences between populations around the world. It is these reconised groups of gentic trates that scinetist call race, they may not manifest themselves physicaly but they exist. But Race is just a convinient grouping tool, the fact that it has been terribly misused does not make it invalid.

Well, I've just read a book of the history of racism, and it seems that some researchers think that races exist and others don't. For example biologists and antropologists (most of them) tend to think there are no races. But as I already asked: what are these groups of genetic trates (? don't know the word trate?). Are Asians one race? if so, are people from Malesia and Mongolia so much alike?

What I'm saying is that there is no right answer to that, as everyone defines race by their own views and not by any biological or scientific method.
Helioterra
14-09-2004, 08:58
i hav predjudices against aboriginals as a group, as they get spoon-fed evrything by the government, and r stil allowed to complain about it. individually, a lot of them r pretty good, but the group as a whole r not in my good books.
my 2c anyway...

And you don't think their situation has nothing to do with Europeans invading their country and forcing them to live in small isolated areas? Isolating them from the public system for decades?

It just might be that they are not very happy about it either.
Druthulhu
14-09-2004, 09:08
racism = consciousness of the different race of another person or persons; commonly used in reference to racial bigotry, but not inherently a trait that influences behaviour or expectations.

racial prejudice = a tendency of one's expectations of another person or persons to be influenced by consciousness of their racial differences from one's own; again, commonly used in reference to racial bigotry, but not inherently a trait that influences behaviour.

racial bigotry = a tendency of one's actions with regards to another person or persons to be influenced by conciousness of their racial differences from one's own.
Perrien
14-09-2004, 09:19
All I know is almost every black I have ever met is a total racist, as all they can think about is hating whitey. If that isn't racist I don't know what is. Oh, I forgot to play by the double standard rules that allow any and all blacks to be openly racist and use ONLY terms like honkey, whitey and racial slurs, but we can't use the word ******, although they say it constantly. My bad.

I say blame racism on the blacks, we blame everything else on them, what's one more item on the agenda?

While I'm at it...it's way past my bedtime, I'm out...some black guy must be responsible for me being up this late...probably the guy who started this thread lol
Druthulhu
14-09-2004, 09:37
I really cannot tell whether to take that seriously or not.
Dettibok
14-09-2004, 09:42
Wait a minute. If I'm sexually attracted to some white people and some asian people but not to as many African American people (still some, but generally fewer than the other two), that makes me racist?Hmm, good question. I'd say, not as the term is usually used. And as racial biases go, I'd say that one's pretty darn benign.
Druthulhu
14-09-2004, 09:44
I tend to find many modern black american women less attractive because I don't like a lot of "back". That's really just as much a "racial" attitude as liking large breasts.
The White Supremacy
14-09-2004, 09:59
Everybody is racist in some way. When people act exactly like a stereotype placed on them, I am racist. Have to say it, when Asians cross the road and almost get hit, or they if they drive absolutey ignorant of other people there is only two words to say, Dumb Gook. I know most aren't like that, but the way they were stereotyped in such a way is because those people stand out and a significant MINORITY do it.

Its there fault if people are racist to them, they are just stereotypes, they are negative stereotypes.

But for every negative stereotype there is always someone that is completely different in a good way.
Daroth
14-09-2004, 10:17
Probably most people are racist. White, black, Asian etc. It's a fact of life. If we weren't racist then we'd all be interbreeding. America would be a nightmare of "brown people", with no remembered racial/ethnic culture. Even with all the crap force-fed by liberals and neocons through the educational system and the media and the government, the vast majority of people tend to marry within the race. And by doing so, they express a
racial preference. It's a form of racism, even though most people don't even know it.

absolute drivel.
but on the point of everyone being slightly racist, well to some degree or other there are prejudices we pick up from society and experience
Harlesburg
14-09-2004, 10:19
caucasoid,negroid,asioid and austraoid* might be another there are your races then we come down to ethnicity.celts franks normans viking are all germanic yet franks are dark haird three differnt groups of celt irish french spanish after a while a group may get swallowed by another and so assimilates into the population vikings went east to Byzantium and settled in Bulgaria etc changing that group slightly.

Britain was Pict along came Celts pushed Picts into Scotland Romans rule Ccelt Angle/Saxon/Jutes take Britain from absent Romans Vikings take it off Saxons Normans take it off Vikings and so Britain is differnt from how it originaly was still British but not British.

Spanish invaded by celts invaded by arabs and so they are dark skinned whit folk its that kind of thing they are white but different ethnicity

mongols invaded eastern europe afghanistan etc so there are traces of thier blood there.
The Blackguard
14-09-2004, 10:24
i hav predjudices against aboriginals as a group, as they get spoon-fed evrything by the government, and r stil allowed to complain about it. individually, a lot of them r pretty good, but the group as a whole r not in my good books.

It just might be that they are not very happy about it either.

Don't forget the part where the old Australian government tried to wipe them out altogether by attempting to assimilating them into the white gene pool through organised manage with white Australians. They just MIGHT be entitled to a LITTLE compensation for what's been done to them in the past.

If Ticklishiousness's message has only reinforced my opinion that a little ignorance can be a dangerous thing.
Helioterra
14-09-2004, 10:28
caucasoid,negroid,asioid and austraoid* might be another there are your races then we come down to ethnicity.



Just curious, in which group you think Indians belong? And do you think there still are (for example) "pure" caucasoids?
Maligned Pygmies
14-09-2004, 10:39
Well, some of the Alaska Natives are more closely related to Mongolians than to other Alaskan natives or Native Americans. Basically dependant on when they crossed the land bridge. Not sure about Native Americans though. Still they would have come over from the Asian continent, but further back so they wouldn't be closely related to any asians or eurasians. :headbang:
Helioterra
14-09-2004, 10:46
Well, some of the Alaska Natives are more closely related to Mongolians than to other Alaskan natives or Native Americans. Basically dependant on when they crossed the land bridge. Not sure about Native Americans though. Still they would have come over from the Asian continent, but further back so they wouldn't be closely related to any asians or eurasians. :headbang:

I'm Finnish and therefore defined as Kaukasian but actully Finns are mixture of three origins. Mongolians from the east, vikings from the west and Slavs (absolutely no idea how to write slavian, slav, what ever...) from the south. so I'm part Asian part European but still considered as Kaukasian. Pretty artificial.
Dettibok
14-09-2004, 10:59
Even with all the crap force-fed by liberals and neocons through the educational system and the media and the government, Don't forget individual expressions of disapproval and private conversation. I must say this is the first time I've been lumped in with the neocons.
Its there fault if people are racist to them ...That's the sort of thing bullies say. You are responsible for your actions.
MajorArcana
14-09-2004, 11:19
i've always said, in todays climte, the worst off are the middle-aged, bald, ginger, short sighted, white fathers..
Harlesburg
19-09-2004, 13:17
I'm Finnish and therefore defined as Kaukasian but actully Finns are mixture of three origins. Mongolians from the east, vikings from the west and Slavs (absolutely no idea how to write slavian, slav, what ever...) from the south. so I'm part Asian part European but still considered as Kaukasian. Pretty artificial.
exactly when peoples invade or intermingal then you get new peoples amerindians are asiatic indians are aryan -not blond hair blue eyes so could be asiatic or caucasoid mongols whent all across eastetrn europe if charles martel? or someone hadnt stopped them then wed all be mongolish
Daistallia 2104
19-09-2004, 13:26
Scientifically, there are no races. If you believe in races, you're a racist. There are only diffrent cultures and enviromental based chances in skin color and height etc, but no different races.

Bingo. http://www.aaanet.org/stmts/racepp.htm

(Been fighting this one for some time here, Helioterra, and I'm glad to see another arguing it in a thread befoire I get to it. :D)
Daistallia 2104
19-09-2004, 13:30
And I'll add that in my previous thread asking for those who believe in the existance of race as a biological division of H. sapiens to provide valid scientific proof, no one was able to do so. I'd be happy to continue shooting down whatever you may try to present...
Druthulhu
19-09-2004, 14:23
And I'll add that in my previous thread asking for those who believe in the existance of race as a biological division of H. sapiens to provide valid scientific proof, no one was able to do so. I'd be happy to continue shooting down whatever you may try to present...

My proof was perfectly valid under the dictionary definitions that I chose, as opposed to your spin. Then (if I recall correctly) you required citations of scientists who apply the word "race" as opposed to "phenotype group" to human populations. Well they don't, but that does not make it any less applicable a term under American Heritage dictionary definitions.

In short, you will consider my proof that race exists if the modern herd of P.C. biological anthropologists accept it as a body?
Bottle
19-09-2004, 14:59
Everybody is racist in some way. When people act exactly like a stereotype placed on them, I am racist. Have to say it, when Asians cross the road and almost get hit, or they if they drive absolutey ignorant of other people there is only two words to say, Dumb Gook. I know most aren't like that, but the way they were stereotyped in such a way is because those people stand out and a significant MINORITY do it.

Its there fault if people are racist to them, they are just stereotypes, they are negative stereotypes.

ahhh, blaming the victim...

so you are saying there are some people who are so stereotypical that they over power the reason of others, and they make it impossible for bullies to resist insulting them or acting in a racist manner? that is one hell of a superpower, the power to control other humans against their will! of course, i think that's pure crap, since humans have the ability to control their actions...anybody who claims they just couldn't help but be racist has just made the best argument for their own imprisonment that anybody could come up with, since they have just claimed they cannot control their own actions and therefore present a danger to public safety.
Daistallia 2104
19-09-2004, 16:16
My proof was perfectly valid under the dictionary definitions that I chose, as opposed to your spin. Then (if I recall correctly) you required citations of scientists who apply the word "race" as opposed to "phenotype group" to human populations. Well they don't, but that does not make it any less applicable a term under American Heritage dictionary definitions.

In short, you will consider my proof that race exists if the modern herd of P.C. biological anthropologists accept it as a body?


I asked for scientifically valid evidence. You responded with standard dictionary definitions, one police web site, and a bunch of semantic arguments. You have yet to present any evidence for the existance of race. You were not even able to define what race is.
Druthulhu
20-09-2004, 01:44
I asked for scientifically valid evidence. You responded with standard dictionary definitions, one police web site, and a bunch of semantic arguments. You have yet to present any evidence for the existance of race. You were not even able to define what race is.

I did define it, by quoting its dictionary definition.

Bump up that thread if you wish to continue this.
Roach-Busters
20-09-2004, 01:46
Probably most people are racist. White, black, Asian etc. It's a fact of life. If we weren't racist then we'd all be interbreeding. America would be a nightmare of "brown people", with no remembered racial/ethnic culture. Even with all the crap force-fed by liberals and neocons through the educational system and the media and the government, the vast majority of people tend to marry within the race. And by doing so, they express a
racial preference. It's a form of racism, even though most people don't even know it.

Not me. I'm white but I have a Thai girlfriend. :fluffle:
The Force Majeure
20-09-2004, 02:02
Wait a minute. If I'm sexually attracted to some white people and some asian people but not to as many African American people (still some, but generally fewer than the other two), that makes me racist?

Well I'm not particularly attracted to red-heads and stupid people. But I wouldn't say I have anything against them per se. So no.
Jeffastan
20-09-2004, 02:20
And I'll add that in my previous thread asking for those who believe in the existance of race as a biological division of H. sapiens to provide valid scientific proof, no one was able to do so. I'd be happy to continue shooting down whatever you may try to present...

I agree that the term 'race' is undefinable simply because of a million shades of grey. However, man indeed does split into, arguably, five subspecies.

Caucasoid, Negroid, Mongoloid, Australoid and Amerind.

Remember that the differences among these subspecies are few and based more on musculature and skeleton structure than skintone. (even a very dark person can be classified a Caucasoid)

Now, you can clearly make the case that not everyone clearly fits into one or even two categories. However, by definition, subspecies can interbreed and do, blurring the line. So from a biological standpoint, there are no 'races', but there are minor subspecial divisions.
CSW
20-09-2004, 02:22
I agree that the term 'race' is undefinable simply because of a million shades of grey. However, man indeed does split into, arguably, five subspecies.

Caucasoid, Negroid, Mongoloid, Australoid and Amerind.

Remember that the differences among these subspecies are few and based more on musculature and skeleton structure than skintone. (even a very dark person can be classified a Caucasoid)

Now, you can clearly make the case that not everyone clearly fits into one or even two categories. However, by definition, subspecies can interbreed and do, blurring the line. So from a biological standpoint, there are no 'races', but there are minor subspecial divisions.
Wrong. The only subspecies in the human race is Homo sapiens sapiens.
Chodolo
20-09-2004, 02:25
Ok, racial preference does NOT equal racism. Racism is hate, racial preference is merely discrimination.

I for one am very attracted to Asian girls...does that make me racist against whites? Nah, but I do discriminate against them obviously when it comes to this matter.


It comes as no surprise that people who advertise in the lovematching section of the newspaper always put their race.


Although you will find, that Hawaii (where I'm from and grew up) is probably where the nation is headed in terms of race. Fully 20% of the population is mixed race (compared to 4% nationwide). Everyone is so mixed that the largest ethnic groups fall below 50%. You will find that in those kinds of situation, race really matters a lot less. I would like to see that happen in the rest of the country, sooner rather than later.
Armstrongia Bachland
20-09-2004, 02:28
Probably most people are racist. White, black, Asian etc. It's a fact of life. If we weren't racist then we'd all be interbreeding. America would be a nightmare of "brown people", with no remembered racial/ethnic culture. Even with all the crap force-fed by liberals and neocons through the educational system and the media and the government, the vast majority of people tend to marry within the race. And by doing so, they express a
racial preference. It's a form of racism, even though most people don't even know it.Aha, not only does your name aptly describe you, but you have little understanding of high school level biology!
Jeffastan
20-09-2004, 02:31
Wrong. The only subspecies in the human race is Homo sapiens sapiens.

But we do not know how many other homo **** creatures we could mate with. The characteristic of subspecies is that they are the same species. By saying man has no supspecies is like saying that there is only one named type of cat, Felis domesticus. Yet, we both know that there are Russian BLue Cats and Persian Cats. They are subspecies, nameless scientifically.

Yes, you can have a mixed breed cat that would have no definable 'breed'. However, you could not make the case that there is only one subspecies of cat based upon the scientific name. The second 'sapien' was added in later not to unite common man, but seperate him from a host of other 'homo sapien' in the fossil records.

You cannot say such minor variences in opinion are 'correct' or not, as scientists themselves are still arguing over this very topic.
Druthulhu
20-09-2004, 02:35
Wrong. The only subspecies in the human race is Homo sapiens sapiens.

Right but for the wrong reason. A subspecies is a race that has been assigned taxenomic nomenclature. Political COrrectness keeps this from happening with the races of Homo sapiens. For the purpose of seeming scientific, the P.C. scientists call all of us Homo sapiens sapiens, but really, how can a species have only one subspecies? A rather thin sophistry.
Political Asylum
20-09-2004, 02:38
Probably most people are racist. White, black, Asian etc. It's a fact of life. If we weren't racist then we'd all be interbreeding. America would be a nightmare of "brown people", with no remembered racial/ethnic culture. Even with all the crap force-fed by liberals and neocons through the educational system and the media and the government, the vast majority of people tend to marry within the race. And by doing so, they express a
racial preference. It's a form of racism, even though most people don't even know it.

If I'm willing to fall in love with and marry a sentient amoeba for their mind does that make me an ultra-non-racist?
Homocracy
20-09-2004, 02:41
In biological terms, the idea of race, or subspecies, is used for members of a species who can interbreed, but have certain noticeable differences. One example is that many birds have a bland continental version, but subspecies exist on nearby islands that are extravagantly coloured, since there are few to no predators.

This demarcation basically allows biologists to quickly determine whether a piece on the species in question deals with the population they are interested in.

This is, however, of little use to anthropologists, since the shear variability of humanity, and the wider cultural values of specific groups, makes the idea crude and inefficient, before you even start to factor in interbreeding. From a biological standpoint, we're the widest ranging and most varied large animal, and our knowledge of our own species has gone so far as to negate any real benefit to the concept of race.

Lastly, consider this: Africa, in evolutionary terms(leave it alone), is the cradle of life. A supporting fact for this is that Africa has the highest degree of ethnic diversity in the world, short, tall, fat, thin, coarse hair, fine, the list goes on. Any biologist who wanted to make a serious study of humans would have real trouble doing so if he/she started by lumping the whole of the African population together as "niggers".
Misterio
20-09-2004, 02:42
I wonder how many rednecks replied to this. They all seem to be racist.
Druthulhu
20-09-2004, 02:43
I wonder how many rednecks replied to this. They all seem to be racist.

Oh, bigotry against rednecks... nice one. :rolleyes:
Jeffastan
20-09-2004, 02:45
Lastly, consider this: Africa, in evolutionary terms(leave it alone), is the cradle of life. A supporting fact for this is that Africa has the highest degree of ethnic diversity in the world, short, tall, fat, thin, coarse hair, fine, the list goes on. Any biologist who wanted to make a serious study of humans would have real trouble doing so if he/she started by lumping the whole of the African population together as "niggers".

This brings to light another point. Anyone can accurately say they are of African descent, since we all can trace out family line back to that hot continent.
Misterio
20-09-2004, 02:45
Oh, bigotry against rednecks... nice one. :rolleyes:

Damn right I do. I hate them all. They bring down the IQ of the United States.

That's not racism. That's fact.

Edit: "Rednecks" aren't a race. They're just a form of white trash. ;)
Daistallia 2104
20-09-2004, 02:45
I agree that the term 'race' is undefinable simply because of a million shades of grey. However, man indeed does split into, arguably, five subspecies.

Caucasoid, Negroid, Mongoloid, Australoid and Amerind.

Remember that the differences among these subspecies are few and based more on musculature and skeleton structure than skintone. (even a very dark person can be classified a Caucasoid)

Now, you can clearly make the case that not everyone clearly fits into one or even two categories. However, by definition, subspecies can interbreed and do, blurring the line. So from a biological standpoint, there are no 'races', but there are minor subspecial divisions.

No, those divisions do not fit the biological definition of race.

Subspecies (ssp.) refer to organisms of the same species that have notable morphological differences often due to geographic isolation. (Sometimes the term race is used used in describing a subspecies.) (http://www.personal.psu.edu/faculty/w/x/wxm15/Online/Taxonomy/taxonomy_lec01.htm)

The catagories you give above show neither distinctive morphological differences nor geographic isolation.
Druthulhu
20-09-2004, 02:46
Damn right I do. I hate them all. They bring down the IQ of the United States.

That's not racism. That's fact.

Well it's a fact that you're a bigot who like to follow stereotypes.
Misterio
20-09-2004, 02:48
Well it's a fact that you're a bigot who like to follow stereotypes.

"Rednecks" aren't a race, just to let you know. They're just a form of white trash. ;)
Druthulhu
20-09-2004, 02:49
No, those divisions do not fit the biological definition of race.



The catagories you give above show neither distinctive morphological differences nor geographic isolation.

1) those categories DO show distinctive morphological differences;

2) once again you have ignored the word "often".
Jeffastan
20-09-2004, 02:51
No, those divisions do not fit the biological definition of race.



The catagories you give above show neither distinctive morphological differences nor geographic isolation.

Although the morphological differences is highly questionable, the boundaries of the Atlantic Ocean, Pacific Ocean and Ural mountains can easily be considered geographically isolating, especially in the case of the Americas and Australia.

Also, you ignored the fact that I did not use the term 'race' myself, rather 'subspecies'.
Daistallia 2104
20-09-2004, 02:52
I wonder how many rednecks replied to this. They all seem to be racist.

Me. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
Misterio
20-09-2004, 02:53
Me. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

Ahhh...so we do have a racist redneck here.

Don't you have a lot of beer to drink or some animal to shoot?
Peechland
20-09-2004, 02:54
[QUOTE=TheOneRule]Spike Lee did. He said that it was impossible for a black to be racist. It had to do with his definition of racism...

then Spike Lee is an idiot. did he actually look up the meaning of the word "Racism"? www.dictionary.com

tell me how that makes it impossible for an african american to be racist? anyone can be racist. look at the definition....Spike's silly
Druthulhu
20-09-2004, 02:57
"Rednecks" aren't a race, just to let you know. They're just a form of white trash. ;)

I never refered to you as a racist, bigot. But while we're there: I have heard from many "non-racist" people who will say such things as "I don't hate all Blacks, just the niggers", defining that by the way certain people of a certain race behave, in terms of their stereotypes.

Also, bigot, you may wish to consider the root of the term "white trash". Somebody at one point coined it to refer to those white people who act like what they would call "trash people". Notice that there is no such term as "black trash" or "mexican trash" ...although it musy surely have been said it never caught on in the coinage of language. This is because the people that came up with the term that you used did so to distinguish "white trash" from all other trash, that is, all other races.

Finally, bigot, you should keep in mind that the word "redneck" is much like "******". They can use it, and with pride, to refer to eachother, but they will kick your ass if you call them that.
Misterio
20-09-2004, 03:00
I never refered to you as a racist, bigot. But while we're there: I have heard from many "non-racist" people who will say such things as "I don't hate all Blacks, just the niggers", defining that by the way certain people of a certain race behave, in terms of their stereotypes.

Also, bigot, you may wish to consider the root of the term "white trash". Somebody at one point coined it to refer to those white people who act like what they would call "trash people". Notice that there is no such term as "black trash" or "mexican trash" ...although it musy surely have been said it never caught on in the coinage of language. This is because the people that came up with the term that you used did so to distinguish "white trash" from all other trash, that is, all other races.

Finally, bigot, you should keep in mind that the word "redneck" is much like "******". They can use it, and with pride, to refer to eachother, but they will kick your ass if you call them that.

Rednecks to act like trash. Don't try to tell me otherwise.

Ever see the kind of people who get arrested on "Cops"? Yep. They're white trash--people missing a few teeth, unintelligent, walking around in wife-beaters, they beat their wives, and they drink as much alcohol as humanly possible.

Oh, and come and try to kick my ass. I'll call you a redneck right to your face.
Jeffastan
20-09-2004, 03:04
Ever see the kind of people who get arrested on "Cops"? Yep. They're white trash--people missing a few teeth, unintelligent, walking around in wife-beaters, they beat their wives, and they drink as much alcohol as humanly possible.

In all fairness, the last 'Cops' episode I watch, the suspect was a small woman with a very thick Russian accent, who lived in a rather tidy apartment.
Druthulhu
20-09-2004, 03:05
Rednecks to act like trash. Don't try to tell me otherwise.

Ever see the kind of people who get arrested on "Cops"? Yep. They're white trash--people missing a few teeth, overweight, walking around in wife-beaters, they beat their wives, and they drink as much alcohol as humanly possible.

Oh, and come and try to kick my ass. I'll call you a redneck right to your face.

You've never seen a Black get busted on "COPS"? I have. Does that make you call them all "niggers" and declare that they all wear Tommy Hilfigger and sell crack? Well... with you I would suspect that you do.

You know, you're a lot like the guy who sees a black suspect on a perp-walk and decides that all "niggers" are criminals. About what one would expect from a shining intellect like yours.
Misterio
20-09-2004, 03:06
You've never seen a Black get busted on "COPS"? I have. Does that make you call them all "niggers" and declare that they all where Tommy Hilfigger and sell crack? Well... with you I would suspect that you do.

You know, you're a lot like the guy who sees a black suspect on a perp-walk and decides that all "niggers" are criminals. About what one would expect from a shining intellect like yours.

Just so you know, I'm not white. ;)
Druthulhu
20-09-2004, 03:07
Just so you know, I'm not white. ;)

Doesn't keep you from being a bigot, does it?
Daistallia 2104
20-09-2004, 04:23
Ahhh...so we do have a racist redneck here.

Don't you have a lot of beer to drink or some animal to shoot?

Let's see, first you assume that I am a racist, without haveing bothered to read anything else in this thread, then make an insulting stereotype. Good for you. :rolleyes:
Texan Hotrodders
20-09-2004, 04:26
Let's see, first you assume that I am a racist, without haveing bothered to read anything else in this thread, then make an insulting stereotype. Good for you. :rolleyes:

Apparently Misterio has completely risen above such things as racism. ;)
Tactical Grace
20-09-2004, 04:28
I think it's fair to say, you're pretty much toast, Gymoor. This childish, immature baiting has got to end.

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