NationStates Jolt Archive


Confessional

CanuckHeaven
13-09-2004, 10:57
The other day, I resorted to an old habit of mine that has caused me many problems in the past. Making smart remarks and/or indulging in a bit of sarcasm is one thing but trying to insult another human being, to me demonstrates intolerance and contempt and to me, that is unacceptable.

To me, intolerance breeds hate and anger and I want no part of either. I see way too much of that on these boards and quite frankly I do not see how it can accomplish anything. To those I have offended, I offer my sincerest apologies.

There was another thread on these boards the other day and it still may be active, and it quite simply asked "if you could punch someone in the face, who would that be?".

Well I thought about it long and hard and I could not think of anyone. While George W. Bush is perhaps one of my least favourite people on this planet, I have no desire to cause him physical harm. If you think this attitude demonstrates any kind of weakness in my character, let me assure to you that today it is my strength.

Peace. :)
Arcadian Mists
13-09-2004, 11:02
I can't think of a single reason why that would be any sort of weakness of yours. The fact that you have no intention to do harm of any kind is a strength, regardless of what people on this forum say.
CanuckHeaven
13-09-2004, 12:48
I can't think of a single reason why that would be any sort of weakness of yours. The fact that you have no intention to do harm of any kind is a strength, regardless of what people on this forum say.
Thank you for the encouragement.
Thulacandria
14-09-2004, 03:37
:mad: No one cares; inbrace the hate! :mad:
CRACKPIE
14-09-2004, 04:10
The other day, I resorted to an old habit of mine that has caused me many problems in the past. Making smart remarks and/or indulging in a bit of sarcasm is one thing but trying to insult another human being, to me demonstrates intolerance and contempt and to me, that is unacceptable.

To me, intolerance breeds hate and anger and I want no part of either. I see way too much of that on these boards and quite frankly I do not see how it can accomplish anything. To those I have offended, I offer my sincerest apologies.

There was another thread on these boards the other day and it still may be active, and it quite simply asked "if you could punch someone in the face, who would that be?".

Well I thought about it long and hard and I could not think of anyone. While George W. Bush is perhaps one of my least favourite people on this planet, I have no desire to cause him physical harm. If you think this attitude demonstrates any kind of weakness in my character, let me assure to you that today it is my strength.

Peace. :)

If you really wish no Physical harm to George Bush, you are a bigger man than i am.
CanuckHeaven
14-09-2004, 04:50
If you really wish no Physical harm to George Bush, you are a bigger man than i am.
While I do not like George W. Bush, he is but one man supported by millions, why is beyond me? However flawed his ideas may be, no matter how many Americans may suffer by his deeds, if I hate him, then I become one of his victims also, if you can follow the logic?

Bush can be removed by the electorate and I sincerely hope that is the case, and it can be accomplished by sound rational manner. Once all the rhetoric dies down, then the debates become the focal point. Kerry has much to work with and that is Bush's failed platform. If Kerry can make the points that need to be made, he can win the debate and the office of the Presidency.

Kerry supporters need to focus on Bush's failures rather than on either candidates past military service.
Mystical Misfits
14-09-2004, 05:02
CanuckHeaven, i'm intersted to see what your thoughts are on much of today;s music scenes, like hatecore, that are basically empowered by the energy of hate and anger.
CanuckHeaven
14-09-2004, 05:19
CanuckHeaven, i'm intersted to see what your thoughts are on much of today;s music scenes, like hatecore, that are basically empowered by the energy of hate and anger.
If someone wants to be consumed by hate and anger, that is their choice. However, I do think Michael Moore made a good point in Bowling For Columbine in regards to charges of people being more violent due to say the music of Marilyn Manson. He downplayed the role that that type of music plays in regards to peoples behaviours.

If you can recall, another Manson, first name Charlie, led a murderous spree against elitists, apparently spurred on by music than none other than The Beatles. I grew up in that era and my friends and I listened to a lot of "different" music and none of them ended up in jail.

While I am not a big fan of some of the music out there today, it doesn't mean that those people are going to turn into a bunch of murderous thugs.
TheOneRule
14-09-2004, 06:19
:mad: No one cares; inbrace the hate! :mad:

I certainly hope this was directed at the world in general and not at CanuckHeaven.

While he and I disagree vehemently on almost every issue you would care to raise (I suppose we both agree that randomly punching people would be a bad thing (I dont know tho.. I might take the opposite side of his, just to keep a perfect record ;) )) I do respect him for his intelligent posts and his well spoken manner.
Thulacandria
14-09-2004, 22:16
I certainly hope this was directed at the world in general and not at CanuckHeaven.

He is apologizing for some thing he said that, either made him feel guilty or, insulted some one. If it is how he truly feels, he is weak for apologizing. If it is not, he should not have said it, but apologizing for it is still weak. Also, if someone was truly offended by what he said, then it is their own stupid fault for not growing some skin, so apologizing in this case would still have to be considered weak. As for his previous posting manners, I can neither attest to them, nor say that I care at all.
CanuckHeaven
14-09-2004, 23:13
I certainly hope this was directed at the world in general and not at CanuckHeaven.

While he and I disagree vehemently on almost every issue you would care to raise (I suppose we both agree that randomly punching people would be a bad thing (I dont know tho.. I might take the opposite side of his, just to keep a perfect record ;) )) I do respect him for his intelligent posts and his well spoken manner.
Thanks for your kind words. People with far greater differences than the ones that exist between you and I, have been able to sit down and work out some or most of those differences for the betterment of all concerned.

BTW, that could never be accomplished if either party was to "embrace the hate", as proposed by Thulacandria.

"Embracing the hate", generally leads to death or destruction.
Raishann
15-09-2004, 00:02
If someone wants to be consumed by hate and anger, that is their choice. However, I do think Michael Moore made a good point in Bowling For Columbine in regards to charges of people being more violent due to say the music of Marilyn Manson. He downplayed the role that that type of music plays in regards to peoples behaviours.

I don't know that Marilyn Manson actually supports violence--in fact, there's a great deal of sarcasm in his work MOCKING the violent. It's just not immediately obvious.
CanuckHeaven
15-09-2004, 03:15
I don't know that Marilyn Manson actually supports violence--in fact, there's a great deal of sarcasm in his work MOCKING the violent. It's just not immediately obvious.
While I like a wide variety of music, Marilyn Manson isn't exactly my cup of tea, but to each his own, as long as everyone remembers the golden rule:

YOU are responsible for YOUR own actions.
La Terra di Liberta
15-09-2004, 03:20
The other day, I resorted to an old habit of mine that has caused me many problems in the past. Making smart remarks and/or indulging in a bit of sarcasm is one thing but trying to insult another human being, to me demonstrates intolerance and contempt and to me, that is unacceptable.

To me, intolerance breeds hate and anger and I want no part of either. I see way too much of that on these boards and quite frankly I do not see how it can accomplish anything. To those I have offended, I offer my sincerest apologies.

There was another thread on these boards the other day and it still may be active, and it quite simply asked "if you could punch someone in the face, who would that be?".

Well I thought about it long and hard and I could not think of anyone. While George W. Bush is perhaps one of my least favourite people on this planet, I have no desire to cause him physical harm. If you think this attitude demonstrates any kind of weakness in my character, let me assure to you that today it is my strength.

Peace. :)


THAT WAS MY THREAD!!!!! YAAAAAA!!!!!!! I think it's still active, although I'm not sure.
CanuckHeaven
15-09-2004, 03:49
THAT WAS MY THREAD!!!!! YAAAAAA!!!!!!! I think it's still active, although I'm not sure.
I wasn't trying to hijack your thread LMAO. It was a spontaneous post on my part, after a bad day on the boards. :(
La Terra di Liberta
15-09-2004, 04:33
I was ticked off that day and needed something to calm me down. I didn't say you were hijacking it, I was just proud I was mentioned indirectly!
Raishann
15-09-2004, 04:34
While I like a wide variety of music, Marilyn Manson isn't exactly my cup of tea, but to each his own, as long as everyone remembers the golden rule:

YOU are responsible for YOUR own actions.

Correct, and I certainly would not act violently simply because an act of violence might be described in music I listen to. The responsibility lies with me, not with that artist.
Thulacandria
15-09-2004, 21:30
Thanks for your kind words. People with far greater differences than the ones that exist between you and I, have been able to sit down and work out some or most of those differences for the betterment of all concerned.

BTW, that could never be accomplished if either party was to "embrace the hate", as proposed by Thulacandria.

"Embracing the hate", generally leads to death or destruction.
And what’s so wrong about that?

Not all differences can be resolved for the better good, or at all for that matter.

As for the other recurring theme, music has little, if anything, to do with a person’s behavior. 95% of the time the person would have committed the act even if the person had not heard a single note or verse.

What's wrong with Marilyn Manson?
CanuckHeaven
15-09-2004, 22:02
And what’s so wrong about that?

Not all differences can be resolved for the better good, or at all for that matter.

As for the other recurring theme, music has little, if anything, to do with a person’s behavior. 95% of the time the person would have committed the act even if the person had not heard a single note or verse.

What's wrong with Marilyn Manson?

If you kick at the Universe long enough and hard enough, it will kick back at you, and believe me, you will not enjoy it.

Sometimes the messages of life take a long time to be discerned, sometimes quickly but they will be understood. Choose wisely.
TheOneRule
15-09-2004, 22:08
If you kick at the Universe long enough and hard enough, it will kick back at you, and believe me, you will not enjoy it.

Sometimes the messages of life take a long time to be discerned, sometimes quickly but they will be understood. Choose wisely.
Karma is a bitch :D
Kempsville
15-09-2004, 22:21
:mad: No one cares; inbrace the hate! :mad:


You're an ass...

I feel bad for you
Thulacandria
16-09-2004, 21:17
You're an ass...

I feel bad for you
Don't waste such emotions on me. Why feel bad for someone who is happy and secure in his being an ass.

As for karma, it’s a tedious balancing act, but I've become exceedingly good at it. :p :p :p