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http://www.projectcensored.org/publications/2005/11.html


Read it, and learn.

They lie.
They distort.
and they dont care anything about being "Fair and Balanced".

but then all news networks do that.

*Shoots self in the head*

Have you seen Bowling For Columbine? I think they bring up the media issue in the movie.
It ticks me off how much these people do for money.

*Shoots self in the head*

Have you seen Bowling For Columbine? I think they bring up the media issue in the movie.
It ticks me off how much these people do for money.
think about that statement for a second. think about how much fahrenheit 9/11 made.

but then all news networks do that.


Not to the point that Fox does.

Not to the point that Fox does.


Actually they all pretty much do the same thing you linked all the time.....

Its all about the big story. If it requires facts being left out (even outright lies) then thats ok in the journalism world now. It shouldn't be but it is. They have to invent stuff now because they aren't the number one source for news anymore. The internet is and will probably always be the best way to get facts/news. Because in one sitting you can see as many different editorials and reports that you want, when you want, for as long as you want.

no matter what, people are run by the media, i dont care who you are. If your not over there asking questions and learning first hand. Then your run by the media.

Two of the worst argument ever on page one.

"Everyones doin' it" Your mom didn't buy it and neither should you.

"F9/11 made money." So? SO? It made a lot of money so for some reason it's not valid? That's as lame as saying it's valid because it made a lot of money. Doesn't enter into it. Sorry Bob.

no matter what, people are run by the media, i dont care who you are. If your not over there asking questions and learning first hand. Then your run by the media.
not everyone's able to be present everywhere at once

"F9/11 made money." So? SO? It made a lot of money so for some reason it's not valid? That's as lame as saying it's valid because it made a lot of money. Doesn't enter into it. Sorry Bob.
I was referring to

It ticks me off how much these people do for money.

I didn't hear you complain when the President of The United States was lying. Bill Clinton never did anything but spill spewge on the poor intern.

Everyone lies, it is ok. There really is no point to be honest anymore. Setting an example for your kids is simply a waste of time.

Getting over on the next chump is what it is all about. Screw before you get screwed. That is reality, ask Micheal Moore, and Ann Coulter.

I'm sorry everybody if Nudist Marxists name is misleading you. He isn't a marxist, and is intentionally giving a bad name to whatever organization he deems fit, by utilizing his greatest tool, boundless ignorance.

Please respect a noble and thoughtful idea, don't listen to the same thing we've been force-fed over and over by the right wing. If logic and reality could be used for the rest of the forum, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you
-The Management

this just in on the Fox network! Bruce Willis is an idiot!

I didn't hear you complain when the President of The United States was lying. Bill Clinton never did anything but spill spewge on the poor intern.

lying under oath, which is perjury

I'm sorry everybody if Nudist Marxists name is misleading you. He isn't a marxist, and is intentionally giving a bad name to whatever organization he deems fit, by utilizing his greatest tool, boundless ignorance.

Please respect a noble and thoughtful idea, don't listen to the same thing we've been force-fed over and over by the right wing. If logic and reality could be used for the rest of the forum, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you
-The Management
I thought character assassination was used only by the right?

VRWC for lyfe!

Not to the point that Fox does.

I dunno, SeeBS has a pretty big scam going on right now. :)

I dunno, SeeBS has a pretty big scam going on right now. :)
haha. is there a thread about that here?

but then all news networks do that.


only American networks do that, not the good old BBC, hurrah, trumpet etc.

No ads = no corporate pressure, no begging messages like in public networks in the US, and mega-high quality documentaries and the like. Viva la BBC!

only American networks do that, not the good old BBC, hurrah, trumpet etc.

No ads = no corporate pressure, no begging messages like in public networks in the US, and mega-high quality documentaries and the like. Viva la BBC!

Didn't the BBC get castrated over the "sexing up scandal"? The fact that the government writes them a blank check every year means that they have no obligation to uphold journalistic standards.

When it comes to Mideast coverage, al-bibicya's bias is second to only al-Jazeera.

Michael Moore has been doing what he does now for a very long time without earning not only "much money" but almost not even enough to get a life with it. He has a long line of work that demonstrates that he isn't into this "for the money".
At your feet,
KalEl el Vigilante (Barcelona, Spain)

lying under oath, which is perjury

He meant that Clinton didn't do much with the Lewinsky affair that affected the nation. Specially compared with Bush (any of both, but specially the current).

On the other hand, Bush was no saint, and did many things one would only expect on a Bush. I mean, a republican. He had charisma, nonetheless...

No ads = no corporate pressure, no begging messages like in public networks in the US, and mega-high quality documentaries and the like. Viva la BBC!

No ads as the BBC does = depending on the state = you still are not independent nor free to tell things as you want.

One link that comes to mind, is back from the old Rage Against the Machine days. They had a powerful message that still echoes today. Fairness In Accuracey and Reporting (FAIR). You can find more information at thier site, www.ratm.com Also there are some very good readings, and links to Chomsky and so on. Check it out and see what really goes on. It's a battle they took on and I hope more people realize. It also brings to mind some very controversial news reporting, such as this hour has 60 minutes, which was on CBC back in the late 60's early 70's under different iterations later on. Today we have W5, which is really revealing to the public eye. Alot of companies and people fear them, which one can only assume that they have something to hide. See if you can watch a program and watch the indepth, undulated coverage. It's on weekly on CBC, I believe Sunday's. I hope this helps in the quest.
The FAIR link is www.fair.org

good job the BBC's in a free state then, isn't it. Yep, the 'sexing up' thing was a bit silly, and I'll be the first one to laugh at them for it, but it proves that the Beeb is not told what to write by the Government, they can report any story they want. There is no law in the UK regarding what the press can or can't say, its all on a 'Gentlemans agreement' which of course means that if the BBC get a juicy story about someone or something, THEY decide if they want to run it. The 'sexing up' thing was ONE breakfast DJ on the radio making an off-the-cuff remark, and it got blown out of all proportion, it wasn't a Beeb offical line.

And that comment about the BBC being second only to Al-je-whatsit is only showing your ingnorance. The arabic channel IS as ub-biased as it can be, just because it doens't make comments like 'those terrorist bastards killing our brave boys' doesn't mean they favout terrorism you moron. And my god man, the BBC reported the sexing-up thing as if it was another peice of news, they even interviewed prople slagging them off for it, live on prime time news. Try watching it before you slag it off.

The decision was appealed to the Florida Appeals Court, why wasn't the appeal decision taken to the Supreme Court?

only American networks do that, not the good old BBC, hurrah, trumpet etc.
al-jazeera

Michael Moore has been doing what he does now for a very long time without earning not only "much money" but almost not even enough to get a life with it. He has a long line of work that demonstrates that he isn't into this "for the money".
At your feet,
KalEl el Vigilante (Barcelona, Spain)
hahahahahahhaha

you don't know about his condo in new york city? or the private school he sends his kid to? or how he charges exorbiant amounts of money for people to hear him speak?

yet another thread of liberals being angry because more people would rather watch Fox News then the Communist News Network (CNN)

yet another thread of liberals being angry because more people would rather watch Fox News then the Communist News Network (CNN)


Wow, in Europe, we see CNN allready as rather right wing, imagine what you would call a real left station in the US (do they exist?) .

In fact, we saw extracts on the BBC about this old nazi guy (heared he is about the symbol of that station, forgot his name and SS rank) and his "Debate with Hitler" :p BS program. They pointed out all his lies and showed us that he used the style that Hitlers favorite judge (the one that sended thousands to death, under wich the 20 july ploters and much of their family) also used.

Just like he is the reincarnation of Freisler, rewriting the facts, partial quoting so it fits his Nazi Republican faith, barking and threathening his guests (also of camera according the witnesses)...wow and calls himself a journalist.

In Europe he would have lots of succes because we all would watch and laugh with that ridiculous old Nazi guy, even the real Republicans can not take this guy seriousely, neither his station (I wonder if they do, OK there are some very few teenager exaptions on NS here that believe this horseshit, but they must be a minority).

Forgeot his name but he was really making himself ridiculous with his bias and lies. He was for ex. barking at a youngster that lost his firemen dad in 9/11 that he was a disgrace for his late father to condame Bushes policy, like he knowed the men in person.

The kid only, wisely replied at the barking Nazi: "You did not know my father and he would never agree with this government, I have know him well, ya know, I his sun..."

The FOX Hitler almost exploded and barked again "Out of respect for the hero your father was, I won't throw you out of the studio and the same BS propaganda from the so called "Journalist" repeted itself. and then there was a commercial.

The boy did not reapear on screen because said Hitler "he felt sorry for his lies". The Kid told the BBC reporter that he was threathened physicly "Go out of my studio or I'll knock you out". That there are still people that wan't to argue with such a Goebels style character and station :rolleyes: They would have a better threathement on All Jazeera or even the Castro stations..

As a European, it is just like watching North Koreas state TV in English :confused:

only American networks do that, not the good old BBC, hurrah, trumpet etc.

No ads = no corporate pressure, no begging messages like in public networks in the US, and mega-high quality documentaries and the like. Viva la BBC!

Ok, but my beloved Fox is just there to piss of the Democrats and to spread out our Republican agenda, nobody really believes that our station is not telling lies, but that is what we Republicans are best at. Down with the neutral BBC, way to liberal :sniper:

Now you told us the truth, it is part of the Republican party. Thank's Texas for showing that Republicans like you agree that it is only there for propaganda, not for news.

hahahahahahhaha

you don't know about his condo in new york city? or the private school he sends his kid to? or how he charges exorbiant amounts of money for people to hear him speak?

It seems that, by some strange accident, you couldn't READ what I type. I repeat, with other words: if one does when they pay him lots of money for it the same he did when nobody paid him lots of money for it, then it's not FOR the money that he does.

I hope the words do arrive you this time.
At your feet,
KalEl el Vigilante

I support der FOX news Netverx. Der Liberal base mus be destroyed and remove from der face of dis earth!

Der Fox News Netverx is our secret veapon to brainvash der youth of AmeriKa and turn dem into Republicans.

Just like Jesus Krist, Von Hitler shall rise again, and he shall take jis place among der rulers of da world, and all Mexicans shall be exterminated.

(goes to heat up the oven) :sniper:

Please...can you think of anything atleast remotely original?