NationStates Jolt Archive


'Unfit for Command' is...

Roach-Busters
12-09-2004, 18:51
Again, please refrain from posting until I put up the poll. Thanks!
Roach-Busters
12-09-2004, 18:57
Feel free to share your thoughts.
Refused Party Program
12-09-2004, 18:59
Never!!
Terra Matsu
12-09-2004, 19:03
Republicon... a splice between Neo-Con and Republican, eh... LOVE IT.
Leetonia
12-09-2004, 19:15
you forgot an option
"Haven't read it, but will probably disagree"

Not all people fall into the (usually conservative) trap of refusing to read/watch/experience something because it contradicts their beliefs. After all, most people who HATE Farienheit 9/11, haven't even SEEN IT!!! And nearly all the Potter-bashers have never read the books, and show very little knowledge of it. An article in the local paper quoted one person as saying the first harry potter book involved "human sacrifice". I was thinking, "Really? Whoa, when did that happen, before or after Harry stabbed the pink elephant in the genitals?"
MunkeBrain
12-09-2004, 19:34
Democrat... a splice between Democracy and scat , eh... LOVE IT. ;)
Colodia
12-09-2004, 19:43
it's....a book!


DING DING DING!
Terra Matsu
12-09-2004, 19:45
Democrat... a splice between Democracy and scat , eh... LOVE IT. ;)
Funny, except Republicon draws no lingual ties to Republican nor Republicanism, yet Democrat does to Democracy, as a Democrat would be a person supporting democracy, from a purely linguistic standpoint. So I don't see Democracy and scat going together and creating a new word that already existed as a valid form of the first word. So yes, ha ha ha.
Roach-Busters
12-09-2004, 23:21
Alan Stang coined the term 'Republicon.'
Alleysia
12-09-2004, 23:26
It's a book with at least some truth to it. And other things that can't be verified.

For example, it turns out to be true that John Kerry lied about Cambodia. I guess it was seared, SEARED, so strongly in his memory, that he didn't realize it was a lie, and was never anywhere near Cambodia.


The other things, like Purple Hearts is all he says/ he says.


It would help if John Kerry released his Vietnam medical records. But he refuses to do so, which implies hes trying to hide something. But in the end, we can't pass judgement because we just don't know.
BastardSword
12-09-2004, 23:35
It's a book with at least some truth to it. And other things that can't be verified.

For example, it turns out to be true that John Kerry lied about Cambodia. I guess it was seared, SEARED, so strongly in his memory, that he didn't realize it was a lie, and was never anywhere near Cambodia.


The other things, like Purple Hearts is all he says/ he says.


It would help if John Kerry released his Vietnam medical records. But he refuses to do so, which implies hes trying to hide something. But in the end, we can't pass judgement because we just don't know.

Yeah but Bush says he releases his record and doesn't...isn't that showing more lying?

What you mean by "he says/he says"?
Misterio
12-09-2004, 23:35
That's what it is.
MunkeBrain
12-09-2004, 23:41
It's a book with at least some truth to it. And other things that can't be verified.

For example, it turns out to be true that John Kerry lied about Cambodia. I guess it was seared, SEARED, so strongly in his memory, that he didn't realize it was a lie, and was never anywhere near Cambodia.


The other things, like Purple Hearts is all he says/ he says.


It would help if John Kerry released his Vietnam medical records. But he refuses to do so, which implies hes trying to hide something. But in the end, we can't pass judgement because we just don't know.
We should probably reevaulate everyting Kerry has said, since his memory is so shoddy.
Alleysia
12-09-2004, 23:50
Yeah but Bush says he releases his record and doesn't...isn't that showing more lying?

What you mean by "he says/he says"?


I mean, that it's Kerry's word against the other Veterans word. And i'm not going to put more truth in John Kerry, just because its John Kerry. I think either one may be right.


I don't think that Bush is lying any more then John Kerry on the subject. I think they're both trying to cover up something. How bad that something is I don't know.

But, can you blame them? They were all fresh out of College, everybody does stupid things. I don't think that Vietnam service should be held against these guys.
Glozaria
12-09-2004, 23:52
Yeah but Bush says he releases his record and doesn't...isn't that showing more lying?

What you mean by "he says/he says"?


I love it when someone who can not defend the point being discussed reverts to "Well the other guy did it more!"
If you want to argue or bash Bushes record start a new topic.
What do President Bushe's comments have to do with the lies Kerry has said?
LordaeronII
13-09-2004, 00:16
you forgot an option
"Haven't read it, but will probably disagree"

Not all people fall into the (usually conservative) trap of refusing to read/watch/experience something because it contradicts their beliefs. After all, most people who HATE Farienheit 9/11, haven't even SEEN IT!!! And nearly all the Potter-bashers have never read the books, and show very little knowledge of it. An article in the local paper quoted one person as saying the first harry potter book involved "human sacrifice". I was thinking, "Really? Whoa, when did that happen, before or after Harry stabbed the pink elephant in the genitals?"

I've observed that this happens much more often in liberal quatres than conservative. Often if arguing about something with liberals I offer to show them proof if they will admit they are wrong upon seeing such, but they do nothing but tell me it's "obviously going to be just a load of bullshit" and refuse to look at it. Then I ask them for proof on their position and they offer nothing but "it's just OBVIOUS that we're right and you're wrong" type arguments.

I am conservative and I hate F9/11, and I've seen it, twice actually. Once, then after reading up on the lies and deceits in it, I watched it again to verify that they were, in fact, in the movie.

I do not oppose anything unless I have at least a fair amount of knowledge of it or have personally seen it (in case of a movie or something like that).
Roach-Busters
16-09-2004, 23:04
bump
Roach-Busters
16-09-2004, 23:17
you forgot an option
"Haven't read it, but will probably disagree"

That's kind of what I intended answer 8 to mean.
MunkeBrain
17-09-2004, 20:45
How about "Have read numerous other books concerning vietnam and/or Kerry, and belive Kerry when he said he committed atrocities." That my vote.
MunkeBrain
03-10-2004, 19:23
John Kerry is the perfect Michael Moore Democrap. He lies nonstop, and he hates America.
TheOneRule
03-10-2004, 19:53
John Kerry is the perfect Michael Moore Democrap. He lies nonstop, and he hates America.
You are allowing emotion to speak for you, rather than intellect.

I don't think Kerry would do good for the country. However I don't think he hates America. If he did, he wouldn't be applying for the President's job. I think he loves America. I think he is doing what he feels is best for America. Just as I believe that Bush loves America and is doing what he feels is best for America.
Siljhouettes
03-10-2004, 19:55
John Kerry is the perfect Michael Moore Democrap. He lies nonstop, and he hates America.
lol
Eutrusca
03-10-2004, 20:08
John Kerry is the perfect Michael Moore Democrap. He lies nonstop, and he hates America.

I doubt that John Kerry hates America. I just don't think he knows what America is. He's been insulated from the vast majority of Americans since shortly after he spent his 4 months in Vietnam. He and Teresa have far more money than the rest of us, hang out with the Kennedy clan, and hobnob with the Eastern liberal "intelligensia." All of these things insulate him from most of the rest of us and lead him to misunderstand and misjudge what most of America is about.
Ellbownia
03-10-2004, 20:09
I voted "other". Haven't read it, don't plan to read it, wouldn't have influenced my decision anyhow.
Sdaeriji
03-10-2004, 20:17
I think the title is accurate, in that I don't think Kerry would make a very good president. I don't believe many of the assertions the book makes, especially about his Purple Hearts/Bronze Stars/service in Vietnam in general. So I suppose I agree with the message of the book, but not the method.
Gymoor
03-10-2004, 21:03
I doubt that John Kerry hates America. I just don't think he knows what America is. He's been insulated from the vast majority of Americans since shortly after he spent his 4 months in Vietnam. He and Teresa have far more money than the rest of us, hang out with the Kennedy clan, and hobnob with the Eastern liberal "intelligensia." All of these things insulate him from most of the rest of us and lead him to misunderstand and misjudge what most of America is about.

I would argue that Bush has the more severe disconnect from reality than Kerry does. Anyone who refers to the "haves and have mores" as "his base,"
is certainly not looking out for the regular guy. I would also suggest that Kerry has actually done more "real life" work that Bush ever has. Don't forget that Kerry was a prosecutor whereas Bush couldn't even get into law school.)

All Bush has ever done is run his businesses into the ground, but still manage to make his investors money. Clearly Bush's priorities have nothing to do with the "common," man.