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(Please wait to post 'til after I put up the poll. Thanks! :))

By the way, NO FLAMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've never understood what flaming is defined as...

And who in the world is this Ann person?

A complete looney like most of the moore well-known pundits on both sides.

And who in the world is this Ann person?

Did I spell her first name wrong? Is it Anne, or Ann?

I picked #3, by the way.

on a scale of -100 to 100, -100 being totally loony and 100 being irrefutably logical.

I'll put her at about -90, as she doesn't(to my knowledge) have lengthy discussions with air molecules

I'm pleased with the poll results so far. :)

Kudos to everyone who voted "a complete loony." (Though I respect whoever said, "A woman who should be President of the United States")

She's a b*tch.
She's a looney.
She's hateful.
She's evil.
She's ugly.
She's the Bride of Satan.

you put up a poll on ann coulter and specify NO FLAME?

dream on

i'm torn between three and five. I flipped a coin and went with three.
She's a republican puppet, like the rest of Fox News.

I'm kinda surprised, though. I thought it would've been divided almost 50/50, between pro-Coulter and anti-Coulter.

Hmm so many choices . . .. I'd like to put down my worst nightmare but the one with the wolves is worse, and anyway the 2000 US Reform cannidate for president is worse than Coulter. A complete loonie, nah, that would actually be easier to accept, but I would not say she is well grounded in reality (but then again I would say that of a fair number of people on the political scene, there seems to be a tendency to confuse propaganda with reality). Smart, well she's probably in the top 20% for intelligence, maybe even the top 10% but raw intelligence doesn't mean much and she's not in the top category. Puppet, no, she controls her own strings and even people of the neo-con persuation find some of her tangents offensive. Villaness or Heroine, I suppose one could say that some people view her as both, I wouldn't consider her either.

I guess that leaves other, she is one of those people who cannot distingush between liscense and licentousness and who must be tolerated in the hope that allowing all voices to be heard in political discourse will result in the best final judgement of society.

I'm kinda surprised, though. I thought it would've been divided almost 50/50, between pro-Coulter and anti-Coulter.Why? The US right does not (cannot actually) require conformity of thought among its supporters.

the 2000 US Reform cannidate for president

If I'm not mistaken, that would be Pat Buchanan.

She's the reincarnation of Hitler.

She's the reincarnation of Hitler.

Hitler becoming a woman...

Now that's scary! :eek:

She's the reincarnation of Hitler.
Stop insultng Hitler :)

a traitor who has betrayed her nation , and committed sedition against its leaders and government.

Why? The US right does not (cannot actually) require conformity of thought among its supporters.
just adherence to the party line and the central committee's talking points.

just adherence to the party line and the central committee's talking points.
Yep. "Tax Cuts for the Rich" "Blood for Oil" and "Lost Jobs" :rolleyes: The conservatives are the ones who spout the party line sooo much. The other side definately isn't guilty.

If I'm not mistaken, that would be Pat Buchanan. I refuse to either pronounce or spell that name correctly. That person (if I may use the term) is the only one who has ever been able to make me understand why some people want to censor other people's political views.

just adherence to the party line and the central committee's talking points.
ROFLOL. You obviously don't pay any attention to US politics. The right in the US is composed of so many diverse factions that you can find any point of view in it on any issue. With the inclusion of neo-cons and their dominance of positions, the classic smaller government distinguisher has disappeared and now the right includes both sides of every issue, and some portion of the right will be happy to comment on thier position. Want to hear portions of the right who don't like the neo-cons on just about every point, go listen to a Libertarian or even a Buckleyite.

Ann Coulter is almost more of a republican puppet than Condoleeza Rice. Anyone read Al Franken's amazing book "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them"? Well, you ALL should. It exposes the disguting reality that is right-wing media bias in this 'fair and equal' nation of ours.

A complete looney
-100 being totally loony I'll put her at about -90
Kudos to everyone who voted "a complete loony."
She's a man.
She's a b*tch.
She's a looney.
She's hateful.
She's evil.
She's ugly.
She's the Bride of Satan.
She's a republican puppet
She's the reincarnation of Hitler. (Stop insultng Hitler)
a traitor who has betrayed her nation , and committed sedition against its leaders and government.
Ann Coulter is almost more of a republican puppet than Condoleeza Rice. Anyone read Al Franken's amazing book "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them"? Well, you ALL should. It exposes the disguting reality that is right-wing media bias in this 'fair and equal' nation of ours.

This so far. Your poll didnt include the correct answer. She's an opinionated person who happens to be on the far right side of the political spectrum. Little or no difference between her and Carville, or MCaulif (cant spell that name right). I would have included Gore as well, but Gore seems to have begun losing his sanity lately. At least coulter doesnt scream when she's talking.

What worries me tho is that those people I quoted actually believe she's some evil person deserving of death. Im actually suprised some of you havent taken it upon yourselves to "rid this world" of the evil that is Anne Coulter :rolleyes:

Anne Coulter knowingly twists raw data into biased opinion. I have read Franken's "Lying Liars...," and he absolutely nails Coulter on falsehood after falsehood.

I am not talking about extrapolation from fact here, folks; I am talking out and out fabrication. The neocons have figured out that if you decorate bias and fabrication with physically-attractive people, it will sell to the majority of conservatives around the globe. Just look at the lineup of Fox's "news correspondents" (read: biased pundits) and you will see what I mean.

but its her twisted vile evil that makes her valuable to us lefties. kill her never she wins us moderates every time she opens her mouth. it would be like the right whacking hilary. they are both lightning rods for their opposition. now if the left wanted someone to die, it should be the moderates, arnie, rudy and hanoi hilton john.

How is it again she's evil? So many people here say that... or are all of you just exaggerating for effect?

I selected "Other". I view her as all of the ways described by choices 2,3, and 7.

A complete looney
-100 being totally loony I'll put her at about -90
Kudos to everyone who voted "a complete loony."
She's a man.
She's a b*tch.
She's a looney.
She's hateful.
She's evil.
She's ugly.
She's the Bride of Satan.
She's a republican puppet
She's the reincarnation of Hitler. (Stop insultng Hitler)
a traitor who has betrayed her nation , and committed sedition against its leaders and government.
Ann Coulter is almost more of a republican puppet than Condoleeza Rice. Anyone read Al Franken's amazing book "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them"? Well, you ALL should. It exposes the disguting reality that is right-wing media bias in this 'fair and equal' nation of ours.

This so far. Your poll didnt include the correct answer. She's an opinionated person who happens to be on the far right side of the political spectrum. Little or no difference between her and Carville, or MCaulif (cant spell that name right). I would have included Gore as well, but Gore seems to have begun losing his sanity lately. At least coulter doesnt scream when she's talking.

What worries me tho is that those people I quoted actually believe she's some evil person deserving of death. Im actually suprised some of you havent taken it upon yourselves to "rid this world" of the evil that is Anne Coulter :rolleyes:
but its her twisted vile evil that makes her valuable to us lefties. kill her never she wins us moderates every time she opens her mouth. it would be like the right whacking hilary. they are both lightning rods for their opposition. now if the left wanted someone to die, it should be the moderates, arnie, rudy and hanoi hilton john.

Ann Coulter rules. She is the answer to....

James Carville
Paul Bagala
Bill Clinton
I could go on and on...Democrats redicule her, yet look at your headliners. It is just laughable that you treat her with such venom, while you tout a long line of hatchet jobs and nut cases...retards :sniper:

well she calls about half of america traitors, she advocates killing civilians, and torture...

And where did she advocate killing civilians and torture? Or are you just making this up?

How is it again she's evil? So many people here say that... or are all of you just exaggerating for effect?
well she calls about half of america traitors, she advocates killing civilians, and torture...

I chose 'republicon puppet' because of her actual views, but those aren't really why I dislike her. As much as I disagree with her opinions, they don't make her an unpleasant person.

No, what makes her an unpleasant person is the way she treats anyone who disagrees with her. Anyone read that article that got her fired from writing for a magazine? It was mean-spirited and plain rude, especially the part about liberal women. She's cruel, malicious, and full of herself, and exemplifies the worst kind of behavior women can get blamed for. Really, one day I hope she stops thinking like a middle-school Heather and starts acting like an adult.

I would love to know what a professional psychotherapist would diagnose as Coulter's mental state. 'Batshit' comes to mind but 'psychotic' would probably be a closer match in technical jargon.

She is a looney. Hardcore looney.

USA Today hired Ann Coulter to cover the DNC and REPORT on it. Michael Moore covered the RNC. Instead of reporting it, she went off on a hateful rant. The USA decided not to use it (for good reason) so its on her own website.

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2004/072604.htm

Micahel Moore's article is here:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/2004-08-30-moore-gopamerica_x.htm

Have a look and see which one is the bigger candidate for the straight jacket and padded rubber room.

well she calls about half of america traitors, she advocates killing civilians, and torture...

LOL. Please God give me a link to the article she wrote about that! :D

This Is War
We should invade their countries.


Ms. Coulter is also a syndicated columnist
September 13, 2001 9:05 a.m.



Barbara Olson kept her cool. In the hysteria and terror of hijackers herding passengers to the rear of the plane, she retrieved her cell phone and called her husband, Ted, the solicitor general of the United States. She informed him that he had better call the FBI — the plane had been hijacked. According to reports, Barbara was still on the phone with Ted when her plane plunged in a fiery explosion directly into the Pentagon.

Barbara risked having her neck slit to warn the country of a terrorist attack. She was a patriot to the very end.

This is not to engage in the media's typical hallucinatory overstatement about anyone who is the victim of a horrible tragedy. The furtive cell phone call was an act of incredible daring and panache. If it were not, we'd be hearing reports of a hundred more cell phone calls. (Even people who swear to hate cell phones carry them for commercial air travel.)

The last time I saw Barbara in person was about three weeks ago. She generously praised one of my recent columns and told me I had really found my niche. Ted, she said, had taken to reading my columns aloud to her over breakfast.

I mention that to say three things about Barbara. First, she was really nice. A lot of people on TV seem nice, but aren't. (And some who don't seem nice, are.) But Barbara was always her charming, graceful, vebullient self. "Nice" is an amazingly rare quality among writers. In the opinion business, bitter, jealous hatred is the norm. Barbara had reason to be secure.

Second, it was actually easy to imagine Ted reading political columns aloud to Barbara at the breakfast table. Theirs was a relationship that could only be cheaply imitated by Bill and Hillary — the latter being a subject of Barbara's appropriately biting bestseller, Hell to Pay. Hillary claimed preposterously in the Talk magazine interview that she discussed policy with Bill while cutting his grapefruit in the morning. Ted and Barbara really did talk politics — and really did have breakfast together.

It's "Ted and Barbara" just like it's Fred and Ginger, and George and Gracie. They were so perfect together, so obvious, that their friends were as happy they were on their wedding day. This is more than the death of a great person and patriotic American. It's a human amputation.

Third, since Barbara's compliment, I've been writing my columns for Ted and Barbara. I'm always writing to someone in my head. Now I don't know who to write to. Ted-and-Barbara were a good muse.

Apart from hearing that this beautiful light has been extinguished from the world, only one other news flash broke beyond the numbingly omnipresent horror of the entire day. That evening, CNN reported that bombs were dropping in Afghanistan — and then updated the report to say they weren't our bombs.

They should have been ours. I want them to be ours.

This is no time to be precious about locating the exact individuals directly involved in this particular terrorist attack. Those responsible include anyone anywhere in the world who smiled in response to the annihilation of patriots like Barbara Olson.

We don't need long investigations of the forensic evidence to determine with scientific accuracy the person or persons who ordered this specific attack. We don't need an "international coalition." We don't need a study on "terrorism." We certainly didn't need a congressional resolution condemning the attack this week.

The nation has been invaded by a fanatical, murderous cult. And we welcome them. We are so good and so pure we would never engage in discriminatory racial or "religious" profiling.

People who want our country destroyed live here, work for our airlines, and are submitted to the exact same airport shakedown as a lumberman from Idaho. This would be like having the Wehrmacht immigrate to America and work for our airlines during World War II. Except the Wehrmacht was not so bloodthirsty.

"All of our lives" don't need to change, as they keep prattling on TV. Every single time there is a terrorist attack — or a plane crashes because of pilot error — Americans allow their rights to be contracted for no purpose whatsoever.

The airport kabuki theater of magnetometers, asinine questions about whether passengers "packed their own bags," and the hostile, lumpen mesomorphs ripping open our luggage somehow allowed over a dozen armed hijackers to board four American planes almost simultaneously on Bloody Tuesday. (Did those fabulous security procedures stop a single hijacker anyplace in America that day?)

Airports scrupulously apply the same laughably ineffective airport harassment to Suzy Chapstick as to Muslim hijackers. It is preposterous to assume every passenger is a potential crazed homicidal maniac. We know who the homicidal maniacs are. They are the ones cheering and dancing right now.

We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war.

She's a Nazi. Plain and simple.

She's a Nazi. Plain and simple.

Yep. She makes Hitler look good. She's all about the superiority of white christians (just like her *gasp*) and the culture of the country in which she lives.

Anne coulter is a freakin psycho. Shes hot, for her age. And she has more balls than the entire democratic council, I have to admit, but crazy.

Excerpt from when I met her: Hello mrs Coulter, so nice to meet you, now, please dont eat my head, I only stopped at that nader Rally to ask for directions...please, spare my life!!! Please... LOOK BEHIND YOU!! ITS A LOT OF NON-REPENTING JEWS AND MUSLIMS *runs off*

I certainly wouldn't call her a puppet. She's not being pushed by money or power or anything else that the GOP could give her. She actually ENJOYS saying such things. She gets off on hate and advocating genocide. She's a crackpot plain and simple.

I'm tired of rah-rah football "rhetoric" winning against real debate.




Ann Coulter rules. She is the answer to....

James Carville
Paul Bagala
Bill Clinton
I could go on and on...Democrats redicule her, yet look at your headliners. It is just laughable that you treat her with such venom, while you tout a long line of hatchet jobs and nut cases...retards :sniper:

FROM: pot
TO: kettle
SUBJECT: your colour
black

Who are you calling a retard if you can't even spell ridicule. Troll.

Ann Coulter is pretty hot! She should be in Playboy's "Women of the Republican Party". That would rock!

Thank you for your time.

*drives by Ann Coulter on a convertible* (Shouting): JESUS WAS NOT THE SON OF GOD!!! hehehe, that was funny HOLY SHIT, SHE PULLED OUT THE MINIGUN, RUN FOR YOUR LIVES BITCHES!

Anne Coulter : Im Anne Coulter bitch!!!

This Is War
We should invade their countries.


Ms. Coulter is also a syndicated columnist
September 13, 2001 9:05 a.m.

This is no time to be precious about locating the exact individuals directly involved in this particular terrorist attack. Those responsible include anyone anywhere in the world who smiled in response to the annihilation of patriots like Barbara Olson.

We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war.

post a link next time.. lends more credibility.

Nope, she's not calling half the country traitors. Not advocating killing civilians. Not advocating torture.

You dont like what she's saying so therefore you vilify her. Understandable, but wrong.

post a link next time.. lends more credibility.

Nope, she's not calling half the country traitors. Not advocating killing civilians. Not advocating torture.

You dont like what she's saying so therefore you vilify her. Understandable, but wrong.


ok, the simple " kill their leaders and convert them all into christianity" thing should be enough to put her in an asylum. She would still write from the padded room, of course, and i would read every column, and laugh, like I do now ( these damn criminally insane people have had their brains corrupted by the liberal media!! why wont they let me hang out with the Skinheads? I get along with them!)

Ann Coulter is pretty hot! She should be in Playboy's "Women of the Republican Party". That would rock!

Thank you for your time.

As long as they blotted out the head I would be good with that. I can see the venom in her by just staring at her eyes.

Good thing they would only be pictures too or else I would see her jerky body language which says 'I am so close to jumping from behind this desk and sucking out your blood you pathetic Jew-loving French-speaking liberal commie freak!"

She make my dickie-bird soft. :(

Ann Couler looks like a man. She's got an adam's apple.

Ann Couler looks like a man. She's got an adam's apple.

I havent seen it...im afraid to get too close. Some people say I kinda lok like im Arabic, and getting within 30 feet of her could mean getting my nuts bitten off.

I have a name for Ann Coulter that is not on the list.It is a four letter word that begins with a capital C---!! An insane one at that.

What a load of sh**e!!! :rolleyes:
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"Originally, I was the only female with long blonde hair. Now, they all have long blonde hair."---CapitolHillBlue.com 6/6/00

[such modesty]
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"Women like Pamela Harriman and Patricia Duff are basically Anna Nicole Smith from the waist down. Let's just call it for what it is. They're whores."---Salon.com 11/16/00
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"Let's say I go out every night, I meet a guy and have sex with him. Good for me. I'm not married."---Rivera Live 6/7/00

[Whore!!!]
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Anorexics never have boyfriends. ... That's one way to know you don't have anorexia, if you have a boyfriend."---Politically Incorrect 7/21/97

[holy F---!!!have you looked in the mirror??]
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To a disabled Vietnam vet: "People like you caused us to lose that war."---MSNBC

[people like Coulter start wars]
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"I think there should be a literacy test and a poll tax for people to vote."---Hannity & Colmes, 8/17/99

[how about a brain scan?]
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"I think [women] should be armed but should not [be allowed to] vote."---Politically Incorrect, 2/26/01

[Coulter being the exception]
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"If you don't hate Clinton and the people who labored to keep him in office, you don't love your country."---George, 7/99

[makes perfect sense Ann,hate your fellow countrymen]
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"Clinton is in love with the erect penis."---This Evening with Judith Regan, Fox News Channel 2/6/00

[hmmm...who the hell would be in love with a deflated one?]
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"My libertarian friends are probably getting a little upset now but I think that's because they never appreciate the benefits of local fascism."---MSNBC 2/8/97

[heil Coulter!!]
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"God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, 'Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours.'"---Hannity & Colmes, 6/20/01

[sooo...what's your point?this god also apparently said...thou shalt have no other gods before me,thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image,thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain,remember the sabbath day,to keep it holy,honour thy father and thy mother,thou shalt not kill,thou shalt not commit adultery,thou shalt not steal,thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's goods.No doubt that you are free of all sin ann]
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"We're now at the point that it's beyond whether or not this guy is a horny hick. I really think it's a question of his mental stability. He really could be a lunatic. I think it is a rational question for Americans to ask whether their president is insane."---Equal Time

[hmmm...sounds like a Bush to me]
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"You want to be careful not to become just a blowhard."---Washington Post 10/16/98
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To think that The Clare Boothe Luce Policy Institute bestowed upon her its annual conservative leadership award "for her unfailing dedication to truth, freedom and conservative values and for being an exemplar, in word and deed, of what a true leader is." :rolleyes:

This is what Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter) thinks of her - the impression I have of her is that she is psychotic

"Let's say I go out every night, I meet a guy and have sex with him. Good for me. I'm not married."---Rivera Live 6/7/00

[Whore!!!]

While I think that Coulter is a total lunatic, I think you took this quote out of context. It sounds to me like she was talking about a hypothetical situation. If you could find the whole record of that interview, or whatever it was, it'd be greatly appreciated so that I can know exactly what the hell she was talking about.

While I think that Coulter is a total lunatic, I think you took this quote out of context. It sounds to me like she was talking about a hypothetical situation. If you could find the whole record of that interview, or whatever it was, it'd be greatly appreciated so that I can know exactly what the hell she was talking about.

Seems that it is a-okay to for Ann Coulter to call Princess Di and other women whores for sleeping with men but it's a-okay for her to do the same.

She should be president that would solve all Americas problems. And shes also the smartest woman ever.

Ann Coulter and Bill O'Reilly should get together and make a baby and call it their little bush baby

Seems that it is a-okay to for Ann Coulter to call Princess Di and other women whores for sleeping with men but it's a-okay for her to do the same.
Did you even read what I said? She wasn't saying that she slept around. She was making a hypothetical example. I managed to remember what she said after that, and it was quite clear that she wasn't talking about herself. She went on to call women that slept around when they weren't married whores. She was not talking about herself.

Note that I am not defending Coulter. I just don't like it when quotes are taken out of context.

She's a crazy, loony, nazi bitch.

What is there to discuss?

NOTE: Before I get blasted, note that I never said I hate her and want her to die :p. She has the rights we all do-the right to be a crazy, loony, nazi bitch :p

One thing about her (and Hannity, and Rush, etc.) that I don't like is she always whitewashes everything the Republicons do. She never questions them, or has any criticism, no matter what they do, or how bad they get. If the Republicons drowned a hundred kittens, murdered millions of people, incarcerated a billion people in concentration camps, nuked a rainforest, robbed a bunch of senior citizens, etc., she'd still be behind them 100%.

why does she get so pissed off at women who don't feel the need to wear makeup and heels to feel beautiful?

nevermind that, what does she have against women in general?

Did you even read what I said? She wasn't saying that she slept around. She was making a hypothetical example. I managed to remember what she said after that, and it was quite clear that she wasn't talking about herself. She went on to call women that slept around when they weren't married whores. She was not talking about herself.

Note that I am not defending Coulter. I just don't like it when quotes are taken out of context.

So hypothetically it is alright for her to sleep around but not hypothetically alright for other women?I think she really hates women in general,unless they have an adams apple. ;)

How is it again she's evil? So many people here say that... or are all of you just exaggerating for effect?
She says that all liberals are traitors and she advocates memocide against them.

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On the deterrence of the death penalty, liberals and John Walker Lindh:

"When contemplating college liberals, you really regret once again that John Walker is not getting the death penalty. We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors." - at the Conservative Political Action Conference(http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/031104A.shtml) 26 February 2002

I wasn't totally sure about that one, since Lindh was a Islamist psycho, not a liberal. But she said that she wants to terrorise liberals with fear of execution.

Anything But Bush. Coulter for president. :P

*hurries out of general*

I will give Ann the courage of her convictions, but her convictions are so monstrous that they don't warrant much respect. She is part of the entitled right who, perhaps because on some level they recognize that they are the exact opposite of the American Dream (people who have earned their success through something other than hardwork), defend the filthy lucre and fame accrued to them. In a sense, she and her ilk are latter day mercantilists, people who see wealth as finite and any attempt to question its current distribution a frontal assault on their "natural right" to have wealth. Without their power/money, they have no identity. So she (and Bill Novak, William Kristol, et al.) develop and believe in a world in which anyone who believes differently is not to be trusted; they must be converted or killed. And since we have pesky laws against murder, they "kill" by libel and slander in order to silence.

So, she's not insane -- she is rational and she doesn't converse with entities who the rest of us cannot perceive. But her interpretation of the world is so solipsistic, that she cannot form meaningful attachments to anything other than whatever inanimate materiel that will satisfy her venal drives. She isn't unique, but her better-than-average good looks (I know I'm alone in this, but she's more attractive than Laura Ingraham) make her stand out in a male-dominated group.

I have the right to my opinions too.

She's a stupid whore that thinks shes semi-intellectual becuase she pretends to be "conservative".

Heres my opinion:

TOTAL GENOCIDE OF THE REPBULICAN PARTY

:mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :sniper: :mp5: :sniper:
"Democracy is factionalism, and factionalism is one man shooting the other in the back"
- The Alansyist Manifesto

Well said Moochio.I would only disagree with the 'Better Than Average Good Looks' comment. :)

Perhaps she would stand out in a 'Certain' male-dominated group because she would be better looking than most of the males. ;) [A pretty boy]

she is a whore(and the worst nightmare of europeans)

Anything But Bush. Coulter for president. :P

*hurries out of general*

LMAO@Knootoss...very good...Like that 'ANYTHING BUT BUSH' not 'Anyone'. You could have Daffy Duck running,preferably away.;){LOL@TheKingOfTheMorons}Given the US of A's voting system[not just one,but two parties,WOW,candidates are bred Elite Skull and Bonesmen]Yea..I'd say you have one helluva "DEMOCRACY'.

a complete loony is leading the pack and rightfully so

Had there been a "Evil bitter psycho bitch who hates everyone and anything who disagrees with her,including minorities, poor people,jews, blacks, Muslims, and most especially...the worst creature on the face of the earth...a species so evil that once you become one, you automaticallyl become a traitor to your country..... LIBERALS!!" - I definately would have chosen that option.

Ann Coulter and Bill O'Reilly should get together and make a baby and call it their little bush baby


actually, Im pretty sure she'd find O'reily to be a " taritorous liberal hick". Now, If we can get her to sleep with Ashcroft... their spawn could cause the apocalypse!! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

how is "nazi" not an option?

c'mon... blonde hair, blue eyes, endless supply of racial epithets directed at the country's current (semitic) enemy group of choice, the arabs, and a frequent tendency to assert the sole use of college campuses as being "concentration camps for useless peaceniks during war time"

and advocacy for the physical intimidation and violence against dissenters.
and their rounding up in concentration camps.

oh, and fiery rhetoric designed to inspire hatred while saying little of substance.

in conclusion:
anne coulter = nazi
seems obvious to me.

and also a frothing-at-the-mouth-incoherent-psycho

how is "nazi" not an option?

c'mon... blonde hair, blue eyes, endless supply of racial epithets directed at the country's current (semitic) enemy group of choice, the arabs, and a frequent tendency to assert the sole use of college campuses as being "concentration camps for useless peaceniks during war time"

and advocacy for the physical intimidation and violence against dissenters.
and their rounding up in concentration camps.

oh, and fiery rhetoric designed to inspire hatred while saying little of substance.

in conclusion:
anne coulter = nazi
seems obvious to me.

and also a frothing-at-the-mouth-incoherent-psycho


a frothing-at-the-mouth-incoherent-psycho/nazi whos hot for some1 in her mid 40's

a complete loony is leading the pack and rightfully so
Nasty talk about Kerry is not on topic in this thread, boy. He is not a complete loony, he voted once for the war.

Nasty talk about Kerry is not on topic in this thread, boy. He is not a complete loony, he voted once for the war.

Hmm... Coulter advocates fascism, Kerry once believed Bush's intel-lie-gence sources. Yup I guess their about equal on the looney-meter. :rolleyes:

Actually yes. Although I suspect that she might be observed to have been slowly going bat-shit insane in the last three years, the only thing definitive I can say is that she is evil, and although she might just be insane to the point of advocating evil, that's just theory at this point.

I think Ann Coulter is like Praying Mantis, after you have sex with her, she kills you.

She could have maybe done porn, but instead is a GOP version of Micheal Moore.

She's completely batshit insane, and if there is any justice in this world, not only will she quickly fade into obscurity, she will be reincarnated as a gay, homeless, person of color with a crack addiction and a scat fetish, and I mean that in the nicest possible way. :D

...a ray of sunlight breaking through the liberal/leftist propaganda that clouds the horizon. And a hot one to boot!

Anne Coultier.

she killed and ate my cat... just to be mean.

I would love to know what a professional psychotherapist would diagnose as Coulter's mental state. 'Batshit' comes to mind but 'psychotic' would probably be a closer match in technical jargon.

She is a looney. Hardcore looney.

USA Today hired Ann Coulter to cover the DNC and REPORT on it. Michael Moore covered the RNC. Instead of reporting it, she went off on a hateful rant. The USA decided not to use it (for good reason) so its on her own website.

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2004/072604.htm

Micahel Moore's article is here:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/2004-08-30-moore-gopamerica_x.htm

Have a look and see which one is the bigger candidate for the straight jacket and padded rubber room.

OMG Can I change my vote? After reading each of these links I'm ashamed to say I voted her an intelligent woman (though I didn't think she was the most intelligent in the world). My God, she must've forgotten her meds that day or something. :eek: And I no longer believe Moore has "horns and a tail". LOL

Sad thing is that that USA Today column was pretty much par for the course for little Annie. I mean, what did they expect after the National Review fired her? The National Review! Jeez. USA Today's move was right up there with MSNBC's hiring of Michael Savage.

Sad thing is that that USA Today column was pretty much par for the course for little Annie.

yup, definitely completely batshit insane. though it is a rather sad statement about political discourse in the united states that she isn't viewed as such by everyone.

one line in her 'too hot for usa today story' confused me more than usually is the case with her rantings. refering to the protestors outside she said,

"The nuts in the cages are virtual Bertrand Russells compared to the official speakers at the Democratic Convention."

is she trying to say that the anti-war and anticapitalist protestors outside were much more philosophical than the democrats inside? is she aware that bertrand russell was a noted anti-war activist, not to mention being anarchist leaning? what gives?

She's the reincarnation of Hitler.
Every liberal thinks every conservative is a reincarnation of Hitler, but Hitler was a damn liberal you idiots lol

Sad thing is that that USA Today column was pretty much par for the course for little Annie. I mean, what did they expect after the National Review fired her? The National Review! Jeez. USA Today's move was right up there with MSNBC's hiring of Michael Savage.

What's wrong with Micheal Savage?

You lefties have zero problem killing over 50 million aborted babies, you sleep with it at night just fine. You think guys pushing turds up other guys butts is perfectly ok, and should even be taught to children in school. Of course I could go on and on and on, heaven forbid Ann or Micheal disagree with you in plain simple speak.

Would you prefer them to talk like Democrats? What would that get us. Imagine two groups doing nothing but calling each other stupid, dumb, Hitler, racist, etc etc.

Atleast she can make a point that goes beyond "your stupid".

Wise up crackheads...get out of your dope enduced state

What's wrong with Micheal Savage?

You lefties have zero problem killing over 50 million aborted babies, you sleep with it at night just fine. You think guys pushing turds up other guys butts is perfectly ok, and should even be taught to children in school. Of course I could go on and on and on, heaven forbid Ann or Micheal disagree with you in plain simple speak.

Would you prefer them to talk like Democrats? What would that get us. Imagine two groups doing nothing but calling each other stupid, dumb, Hitler, racist, etc etc.

Atleast she can make a point that goes beyond "your stupid".

Wise up crackheads...get out of your dope enduced state
hypocrisy smells like cheese, welcome to my ignore list you ass

What's wrong with Micheal Savage?

He's a hate filled idiot?

You lefties

ONOES! You used that as an insult! Shame on me!

...have zero problem killing over 50 million aborted babies, you sleep with it at night just fine.

Actually, I don't think you CAN kill an aborted baby. Once it's been aborted, it's kinda...DEAD.

Grammer issues aside, I don't believe I've ever once killed a baby. Lemmy think...wait...nope, not once.

You think guys pushing turds up other guys butts is perfectly ok, and should even be taught to children in school.

Funny, I've never ONCE, in my ENTIRE LIFE, heard anyone say "we need to teach children to be gay." I've heard things such as "don't discriminate," "teach all ends of the spectrum," and "let your children choose." Maybe that's the problem-we're not forcing the little shits to be exactly what we want them too. Back in the old days, if they didn't like it, they'd just kill themselves! Kids these days are spoiled-what with their "being excepted" and their "being loved."

Oh, and butt sex has nothing to do with pushing turds up a butt. WOw, I can tell you're REALLY enlightened!

Of course I could go on and on and on, heaven forbid Ann or Micheal disagree with you in plain simple speak.

Ok dumbshit, you obviously have no grasp of reality or what's even going on here. Nobody is saying "OMG they disagree with me, EVIL!" I know people who disagree with me on issues, and we get along just fine. It's when someone takes a stance on these issues to this extreem that things get hectic.

Would you prefer them to talk like Democrats? What would that get us. Imagine two groups doing nothing but calling each other stupid, dumb, Hitler, racist, etc etc.

You obviously have been paying NO attention to this whole "presidential election" thing that's been going on. One side keeps screaming "Hitler," the other "terrorist." Both sides do it. Open your eyes, and grow the fuck up.

At least she can make a point that goes beyond "your stupid".

No, she can't. Her points involve ""you're evil," and "you should die." THat's around the same level of "you're stupid."

Wise up crackheads...get out of your dope enduced state

Because as you've shown us, you're reeeeally edumacated.

hahaha, now that was an exciting reply. You don't like your own methods, and your so hurt...sniff sniff...suddenly you want to be articulate, and not simply call me a Nazi. I feel so special, I think I'm going to go and find me a gay lover and get a hug...


Mmmmkay...

Oh, and all of that aggression you guys have, it really highlights my point nicely. If I lick your boots you like me, if I have my own opinions then you act like, well DEMOCRATS. Freedom of speech is only reserved for you and those that think like you...well kiss me assholiooooo

oh, and one specific point. Who the hell are you, or the government to teach anyones kids that they have the right to chose to be gay? Gayness is not an alternative, it is a birthright of gay people, so why should it be taught as a valid OPTION? Your pathetic you slimey ACLU worm...

Teach your own kids to be homo's and leave the rest of us to teach our kids the difference between right and wrong.

hahaha, now that was an exciting reply. You don't like your own methods, and your so hurt...sniff sniff...suddenly you want to be articulate, and not simply call me a Nazi. I feel so special, I think I'm going to go and find me a gay lover and get a hug...

Are you referring to me? Because if so, you obviously have read approxemitly ZERO of my posts. I don't just meander about, calling people "nazis" and such. I doubt you read my comment on here in refference to Coulter herself. And I have no clue what the hell the "gay lover and get a hug" thing is about.


Mmmmkay...

Oh, and all of that aggression you guys have, it really highlights my point nicely. If I lick your boots you like me, if I have my own opinions then you act like, well DEMOCRATS. Freedom of speech is only reserved for you and those that think like you...well kiss me assholiooooo

Funny, I don't remember seeing ANYONE say that. One person put you on their ignore list, and I dissected your post and responded to it. I never once told you to shut up. I didn't at any point say you weren't allowed your opinion.

But, since I doubt you'll read any of this, I'll close with this nice little note

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare.php

I was not talking to you in the first place dipshit, I was posting my own opinion, your the turd that decided to flame me, so get over yourself asswipe.

I hear a hundred times a day how conservatives are Hitler, and now suddenly you want to make the moot point that "You" didn't use the term. I was not aware of your existance prior to you opening your shithole and speaking.

oh, and one specific point. Who the hell are you, or the government to teach anyones kids that they have the right to chose to be gay? Gayness is not an alternative, it is a birthright of gay people, so why should it be taught as a valid OPTION? Your pathetic you slimey ACLU worm...

Teach your own kids to be homo's and leave the rest of us to teach our kids the difference between right and wrong.

1) I'm not a member of the ACLU. Zero points for you.

2) Who are you to deny your children the right to be themselves? Let me guess-you also force your kids to be right handed, christians, brown haired, and blue eyes. If they're anything else you beat the little fuckers until they are.

3) http://koti.mbnet.fi/mazgurth/pics/pictures/calzowned.jpg

I was not talking to you in the first place dipshit, I was posting my own opinion, your the turd that decided to flame me, so get over yourself asswipe.

There's really nothing to repond to here. I didn't flame you at all, I took apart your post and put in my views. You responded by insulting me and not adding anything intellegible. Nicely done.

I hear a hundred times a day how conservatives are Hitler, and now suddenly you want to make the moot point that "You" didn't use the term. I was not aware of your existance prior to you opening your shithole and speaking.

I really don't know what you're trying to say here. Both sides insult each other. Deal with it.

Pot: Hey, Kettle
Kettle: Yeah?
Pot: FUCKING ******!

Look assclown,

There are plenty of people in the world that think it is perfectly fine for daddy's to screw daughters and mommy's their son's and brother their brother and boys to boys and girls to girls. Everyone draws a line somewhere, and in my values and belief system that includes the little homo people. You may not like it, you may think it barbaric, but that is my fucking right. You can go and poke all your little friends all you want, and if they desire to return the favor, woohoo for you.

I could care less what other people do with themselves in any way. If you want to talk to my kids about sex with homo's you simply get your ass kicked as that is over the line and none of your business. You can also expect to get your ass kicked if you try and fondle thier balls or lick them behiind the ears.

Now I know all of you little teenage college liberals get all warm and fuzzy when you think your protecting the rights of the Kangaroo rat, homo's and the right to piss on Jesus, that is your right, and I'm all for it. Just remember, people such as myself never gave up our rights to raise our kids and live the way we want. If you have a problem with it, you can snivvel and type all of the sorded theories you want, but action is something else altogether.

You are not happy with doing things that just affect you, in your mind you MUST also have my kids in your click with your way of thinking, and I'm asserting my right to have them in my click with my way of thinking. Once they are adults, they can do whatever they wish, even if that means blowing some guy behind the bushes. Why can't you retards get that logic in your thick underdeveloped skulls? Since when did I ceed my right to parent over to your classroom experiments and social backassward world?

I didn't, so blow me, ya homo.

Look assclown,

What a winning way to start!

There are plenty of people in the world that think it is perfectly fine for daddy's to screw daughters and mommy's their son's and brother their brother and boys to boys and girls to girls. Everyone draws a line somewhere, and in my values and belief system that includes the little homo people. You may not like it, you may think it barbaric, but that is my fucking right. You can go and poke all your little friends all you want, and if they desire to return the favor, woohoo for you.

I couldn't care less what you think. But it's disgusting that you would force your beliefs on your children. This is the kind of shit that makes kids kill themselves. If I met you on the street, I would seriously want to punch you in the face.

But I'm not you. I don't force my beliefs on others, and I would restrain myself. I doubt you could. I do think it's barbaric, and I think YOU are barbaric for taking advantage of children like that.

Forcing kids to grow up a certain way is one very, very small degree away from raping them.

I could care less what other people do with themselves in any way. If you want to talk to my kids about sex with homo's you simply get your ass kicked as that is over the line and none of your business. You can also expect to get your ass kicked if you try and fondle thier balls or lick them behiind the ears.

Obviously I'd get attacked if I tried to molest them. Which is strange that you mention, since most pedophiles are straight. Furthermore, I'm not gay. Score zero for you. However, you seem to have a problem with educating your kids. Hopefully in the future, that will be out of your idiotic, ignorant, and arrogent hands.

Now I know all of you little teenage college liberals get all warm and fuzzy when you think your protecting the rights of the Kangaroo rat, homo's and the right to piss on Jesus, that is your right, and I'm all for it. Just remember, people such as myself never gave up our rights to raise our kids and live the way we want. If you have a problem with it, you can snivvel and type all of the sorded theories you want, but action is something else altogether.

Action is something else all together, and hopefully it'll reach the top. I can only hope that one day, sex ed classes will teach everything they SHOULD.

You are not happy with doing things that just affect you, in your mind you MUST also have my kids in your click with your way of thinking, and I'm asserting my right to have them in my click with my way of thinking. Once they are adults, they can do whatever they wish, even if that means blowing some guy behind the bushes. Why can't you retards get that logic in your thick underdeveloped skulls? Since when did I ceed my right to parent over to your classroom experiments and social backassward world?

By your logic, parents would be allowed to beat their children, molest them, kill them-it wouldn't matter.

Thankfully the government and law DOES take this into their control. You are one fucking SICK child abuser. If you DO have kids, I hope they ignore you and get the hell away from you as soon as possible.

I didn't, so blow me, ya homo.

As stated before, i'm not gay. Quite straight, in fact. Why would you think I'm gay? I didn't hit on you once. Although, if I WAS gay, I'd rather shot myself in the face then even think of flirting with you.

You know, you have some twisted logic there buddy.

1. Whoever told you that most pedophiles were straight was full of crap. It might sound good to your ears, but that is flat out wrong chump. But it doesn't really matter to me, a childmolester is just that.

2. Teaching your kids betwen right and wrong is a far cry from forcing your beliefs upon them. Is it ok to steal? Is stealing an option? Is it ok to commit murder? Is murder an alternative lifestyle? The answer is no, and many people do in fact steal and commit murder. I include homosexuality in my group of "What not to do" column, it's that simple. Right next to "Don't become a religious fanatic".

3. With your pee brain you think teaching kids that homosexuality is not proper human behavior then your killing them and torturing them. Your logic is simply retarded and has only become popular since the 80's. There was a time when this was not normal, kind of like smoking pot was not mainstream prior to the 60'. Kind of like wearing earings and piercing your tongue was not popular prior to the 90's. I know that you are growing up in a world were it is mainstream, and I accept that, but as a parent, it is my responsibility to prevent my child from making bad choices in life that could affect them for the rest of thier lives. Who are you to criticise me for the choices I support and the ones I do not?

I would not mind your OPINION, but I truelly reject your close minded view that I MUST ACCEPT EVERYTHING, or I'm going to force my kids to commit suicide. That is naive, and simply childish of you. You saying that forcing them to grow up a certain way is not far from raping them is simply sick pal. I think you have some deep seeded issues that should be addressed. I'd put money on it that you were molested.

Lastly, protecting my kids from filth and scum is hardly the same as molesting them. You can subject your kids to whatever notion is popular for the decade, but I chose a more complete and overall appraoch, such as preparing them to be fathers, and teach them the value of raising their own kids someday, not how to go down on a guy and live for the moment.

You have your view, and I have mine. I accept your right to be the way you are and think, the problem is, your a typical liberal, and you want to force your way upon me and not respect my equal rights.

That wraps up the entire debate of liberals and conservatives.

You know, you have some twisted logic there buddy.

1. Whoever told you that most pedophiles were straight was full of crap. It might sound good to your ears, but that is flat out wrong chump. But it doesn't really matter to me, a childmolester is just that.

http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html

Want some peper with that foot of yours?

2. Teaching your kids betwen right and wrong is a far cry from forcing your beliefs upon them. Is it ok to steal? Is stealing an option? Is it ok to commit murder? Is murder an alternative lifestyle? The answer is no, and many people do in fact steal and commit murder. I include homosexuality in my group of "What not to do" column, it's that simple. Right next to "Don't become a religious fanatic".

You put homosexuality next to religious fanaticism? Very interesting.

However, homosexuality ISN'T A CHOICE. Get it through you fucking head. I never CHOOSE to become straight. I doubt they CHOOSE to become homosexual. You can't tell someone "you can't be homosexual-that's wrong." for the same reason you can't tell your child "you aren't allowed to have brown hair-you MUST have blonde."

3. With your pee brain you think teaching kids that homosexuality is not proper human behavior then your killing them and torturing them. Your logic is simply retarded and has only become popular since the 80's. There was a time when this was not normal, kind of like smoking pot was not mainstream prior to the 60'. Kind of like wearing earings and piercing your tongue was not popular prior to the 90's. I know that you are growing up in a world were it is mainstream, and I accept that, but as a parent, it is my responsibility to prevent my child from making bad choices in life that could affect them for the rest of thier lives. Who are you to criticise me for the choices I support and the ones I do not?

Who am I? I am a human being who cares about other human beings, that's who. And I covered this above quite nicely. Homosexuality isn't a choice, you pee brained idiot.

I would not mind your OPINION, but I truelly reject your close minded view that I MUST ACCEPT EVERYTHING, or I'm going to force my kids to commit suicide. That is naive, and simply childish of you. You saying that forcing them to grow up a certain way is not far from raping them is simply sick pal. I think you have some deep seeded issues that should be addressed. I'd put money on it that you were molested.

You think I'm sick? Tell that to the tons of homosexual children who KILL THEMSELVES because their parents, their society, or their friends refuse to accept them. Tell that to the kids who die every day because they're sick of being hated for who they are.

The fact that you engrain your children with hate is disgusting. What if one of your kids was gay? Or a grandchild? Would you shun them, tell them that you don't love them?

Lastly, protecting my kids from filth and scum is hardly the same as molesting them. You can subject your kids to whatever notion is popular for the decade, but I chose a more complete and overall appraoch, such as preparing them to be fathers, and teach them the value of raising their own kids someday, not how to go down on a guy and live for the moment.

What part of "Homosexuality isn't a choice" don't you understand? Oh, and what does being gay have to do with going down on a guy or living for the moment? I find it inredibly illogical that you could and would link these things together. Explain yourself.

You have your view, and I have mine. I accept your right to be the way you are and think, the problem is, your a typical liberal, and you want to force your way upon me and not respect my equal rights.

You still don't understand. Behave however you want to behave, but do NOT force others to do the same. I'd say "typical conservative," only I DON'T generalize, and I'm better then you.

That wraps up the entire debate of liberals and conservatives.

Actually, all of these discusions have had nothing to do with being a liberal OR a conservative. Idiot.

Look assclown,

There are plenty of people in the world that think it is perfectly fine for daddy's to screw daughters and mommy's their son's and brother their brother and boys to boys and girls to girls. Everyone draws a line somewhere, and in my values and belief system that includes the little homo people. You may not like it, you may think it barbaric, but that is my fucking right. You can go and poke all your little friends all you want, and if they desire to return the favor, woohoo for you.

I could care less what other people do with themselves in any way. If you want to talk to my kids about sex with homo's you simply get your ass kicked as that is over the line and none of your business. You can also expect to get your ass kicked if you try and fondle thier balls or lick them behiind the ears.

Now I know all of you little teenage college liberals get all warm and fuzzy when you think your protecting the rights of the Kangaroo rat, homo's and the right to piss on Jesus, that is your right, and I'm all for it. Just remember, people such as myself never gave up our rights to raise our kids and live the way we want. If you have a problem with it, you can snivvel and type all of the sorded theories you want, but action is something else altogether.

You are not happy with doing things that just affect you, in your mind you MUST also have my kids in your click with your way of thinking, and I'm asserting my right to have them in my click with my way of thinking. Once they are adults, they can do whatever they wish, even if that means blowing some guy behind the bushes. Why can't you retards get that logic in your thick underdeveloped skulls? Since when did I ceed my right to parent over to your classroom experiments and social backassward world?

I didn't, so blow me, ya homo.




How DARE you even mention Jesus in such a manner! You fundamentalists represent everything that Jesus was trying to ESCAPE FROM!!!

Jesus was:
Tolerant
Forgiving
Merciful
Helpful

And that sure as HELL isn't anything that you could be! You aren't a christian. NO one person gets to assert their rights over someone elses. Even your children. You think they are your property? They are their own people, you are responsible for raising them. It is their job to figure out things on their own. It is your job to throw a ball to them, feed them, and put a roof over their heads.

Jesus said honor your father and mother, but he distinctly said that it was HIS job to teach them right and wrong, not YOURS.

What is right, in Jesus' eyes? In contemporary society? Tolerance. Tolerance of everything. Tolerance of sin, culture, ideology, opinions, everything. Might some of these be wrong? Yeah! Are you the authority on what is right and wrong? No!

I ask you this, you vomitous mass of Neo-nazi resembling filth. Did you choose to be straight one day? Did you sit down, weigh all the options of both positions, assign points to each perspective thing on the list (was anal sex rated a 5? Was vaginal sex rated a 10?).

You want to know the truth? I always knew I was straight. I was always severely attracted to females. And you know what? I have quite a number of homosexual friends, and they tell me that they always thought a tall, strong, muscular man was far more attractive to them than a voluptuous, curvaceous woman, which was my choice.

These people fall in love with each other. And you know what? God is love. So what does that mean? God is in their relationship. Are you really telling me that you are going to willingly throw your fundamentalist ass into the burning pits of hell, just so you can be afraid of some homosexuals?

You make me sick, you ignorant, non-informed, conservative prick.

Have you ever met anyone who "USED TO BE" gay? I have, several people in fact. I even have a couple friends who are gay. One is a lesbo and the other a homo. That is thier business, that is who they are, but I reject the notion that it is not by choice. Who are you to say that it is, when thousands and probably millions have flip flopped back and forth. Your so willing to have it in stone when it suits your argument, yet you yourself said that they have the choice if they have ALL of the information.

I agree many kids commit suicide, I've had a few do it when I was growing up. I live two blocks from Columbine High School, my wife graduated from there. Several months later the best basketball player in the state hung himself over that, and the fact his father forced him to play b-ball 24/7 for his retirement plan. I know plenty about childhood angst and the complexities hat go with the territory.

You on the other hand have yet to be a father. You have yet to worry about your children and all of the offerings the world throws at them, and every one of them claims the top spot for perfect normal behavior. I go to the supermarket and I see 100 kids smoking cigs in the parkinglot. Does anyone care? Those kids are going to end up with all sorts of diseases and early death as a result. Who is looking out for those kids? Damn sure not you!

I treat AIDS victims everyday for a living. I treat cancer victims everyday for a living. Who is looking out for them when they are in a hospital bed pissing and shitting all over themselves, unable to call a single family member becuase they have spent a lifetime rejected from normal society by thier CHOICE.

I hear it from the source pal, I see it everyday. Like I said, I respect your youth, and your right to charge the hill for civil liberties and protection of the downtroden, but reality is a far cry from your perspective. I have yet to see some poor bastard dying of AIDS introduce me to his college professor. I read spew put out all the time from our liberal universities, but I'm of the people who have to pick up the human waste and shove it out the back door when nobody wants it.

I honestly hope you never end up like that, I wouldn't wish it upon anyone. I wish every person that gets addicted to a substance or a behavior pattern that ultimately left them a physical wreck, unable to function in the most basic ways was able to run across someone such as myself, and possibly rethink thier options. I know a great deal of lives would suffer much less than they do today.

Life is about choices, and no matter what we do, we can't make all the right decisions, as we are falable and human, but I make an honest effort to do what I feel is right for myself and my two boys. If I meet someone who has made some poor choices, I try to assist them where I can, but if they are already a train wreck, it is best to get the hell out of the way. I don't ever want to see my kids like that, and I damn sure don't want to look in the mirror and know that I didn't do the best I could have to teach them responsibility and the difference between right and wrong.

If you don't respect that, that's your right, I hear it all the time, and will be flamed countless times on these boards, but my opinion still counts, matters and is justified. If you ever want to see the damage of these people, let me know, I can give you and all of your pals a tour of reality that would make you wish you did commit suicide.

How DARE you even mention Jesus in such a manner! You fundamentalists represent everything that Jesus was trying to ESCAPE FROM!!!

Jesus was:
Tolerant
Forgiving
Merciful
Helpful

And that sure as HELL isn't anything that you could be! You aren't a christian. NO one person gets to assert their rights over someone elses. Even your children. You think they are your property? They are their own people, you are responsible for raising them. It is their job to figure out things on their own. It is your job to throw a ball to them, feed them, and put a roof over their heads.

Jesus said honor your father and mother, but he distinctly said that it was HIS job to teach them right and wrong, not YOURS.

What is right, in Jesus' eyes? In contemporary society? Tolerance. Tolerance of everything. Tolerance of sin, culture, ideology, opinions, everything. Might some of these be wrong? Yeah! Are you the authority on what is right and wrong? No!

I'm an atheist you moron. I have been for over 20 years. I could give two shits what Jesus said, he is nothing to me more than Mickey Mouse or Daffy Duck, Allah, Budda, Ra, Yahwe, or Kid Rock.

It isn't my kids responsibility to figure out everything for themselves, your an idiot. If that were the case we would have a society full of thugs, criminals, pot heads...oh, least I get ahead of myself

It is obvious to me that for the past decade you are all being taught everything of value is based upon your ability for tolerance. I reject this notion. I do not have to tolerate injustice, loss of my liberties, thievery of my finances or any of the other things you expect me to be tolerant of, especially social injustices. Homosexuality is simply wrong. Some people have always and will alwaysw chose to practice it, and that is fine with me, I tolerate them. But I don't teach it as an alternative or an acceptable for of social fabric, that is simply your youth talking, of which you know little.

I ask you this, you vomitous mass of Neo-nazi resembling filth. Did you choose to be straight one day? Did you sit down, weigh all the options of both positions, assign points to each perspective thing on the list (was anal sex rated a 5? Was vaginal sex rated a 10?).

You want to know the truth? I always knew I was straight. I was always severely attracted to females. And you know what? I have quite a number of homosexual friends, and they tell me that they always thought a tall, strong, muscular man was far more attractive to them than a voluptuous, curvaceous woman, which was my choice.

These people fall in love with each other. And you know what? God is love. So what does that mean? God is in their relationship. Are you really telling me that you are going to willingly throw your fundamentalist ass into the burning pits of hell, just so you can be afraid of some homosexuals?

You make me sick, you ignorant, non-informed, conservative prick.


Hey fuckhead, what your not used to an atheist thinking this way? I giess that is why every one of you keep insisting I am a neocon fundamentalist. I'm not, fuck you and Jesus.

Have you ever met anyone who "USED TO BE" gay? I have, several people in fact. I even have a couple friends who are gay. One is a lesbo and the other a homo. That is thier business, that is who they are, but I reject the notion that it is not by choice. Who are you to say that it is, when thousands and probably millions have flip flopped back and forth. Your so willing to have it in stone when it suits your argument, yet you yourself said that they have the choice if they have ALL of the information.

Actually, current evidence points to it being strongly genetic, but not entirely. I support this, because this is what has been shows to work so far. Sorry, but your score is still at zero.

I agree many kids commit suicide, I've had a few do it when I was growing up. I live two blocks from Columbine High School, my wife graduated from there. Several months later the best basketball player in the state hung himself over that, and the fact his father forced him to play b-ball 24/7 for his retirement plan. I know plenty about childhood angst and the complexities hat go with the territory.

Yet you agree with his dad's feelings when it comes to forcing children to do what they wish? That's hardly loving.

You on the other hand have yet to be a father. You have yet to worry about your children and all of the offerings the world throws at them, and every one of them claims the top spot for perfect normal behavior. I go to the supermarket and I see 100 kids smoking cigs in the parkinglot. Does anyone care? Those kids are going to end up with all sorts of diseases and early death as a result. Who is looking out for those kids? Damn sure not you!

Wow, you know nothing about my life. Actually, many of my friends who DO smoke, do so moderatly, because they're intellegent enough to understand that it DOES have negative affects. And of course I care. On the other hand, I also believe in free will. These kids are choosing to smoke. I can tell them it's negative side affects, but I can't FORCE them to stop. When I have children, I'll be damned sure that they know they shouldn't drink, do drugs, or smoke. Only, I'll give them reasons WHY.

Which reminds me. Why do you believe homosexuality is bad? GO ahead-name some negative side affects.

I treat AIDS victims everyday for a living. I treat cancer victims everyday for a living. Who is looking out for them when they are in a hospital bed pissing and shitting all over themselves, unable to call a single family member becuase they have spent a lifetime rejected from normal society by thier CHOICE.

Your point being...?

If anything, this is more a point in MY favor. The less people hate homosexuality, the better.

I hear it from the source pal, I see it everyday. Like I said, I respect your youth, and your right to charge the hill for civil liberties and protection of the downtroden, but reality is a far cry from your perspective. I have yet to see some poor bastard dying of AIDS introduce me to his college professor. I read spew put out all the time from our liberal universities, but I'm of the people who have to pick up the human waste and shove it out the back door when nobody wants it.

Yet again, what's the point behind this? You see WHAT from the source?

I honestly hope you never end up like that, I wouldn't wish it upon anyone. I wish every person that gets addicted to a substance or a behavior pattern that ultimately left them a physical wreck, unable to function in the most basic ways was able to run across someone such as myself, and possibly rethink thier options. I know a great deal of lives would suffer much less than they do today.

How is this affective apon homosexuality?

And I know damn well what addiction of that sort is like. My ex-girlfriend used to be both bulimic and anorexic (mainly because her parents told her they didn't want her to be fat-another wonderful story of parents forcing their veiws on their children, ruining their lives).

Life is about choices, and no matter what we do, we can't make all the right decisions, as we are falable and human, but I make an honest effort to do what I feel is right for myself and my two boys. If I meet someone who has made some poor choices, I try to assist them where I can, but if they are already a train wreck, it is best to get the hell out of the way. I don't ever want to see my kids like that, and I damn sure don't want to look in the mirror and know that I didn't do the best I could have to teach them responsibility and the difference between right and wrong.

Once again-what's so bad about homosexuality? Why is it "wrong?"

If you don't respect that, that's your right, I hear it all the time, and will be flamed countless times on these boards, but my opinion still counts, matters and is justified. If you ever want to see the damage of these people, let me know, I can give you and all of your pals a tour of reality that would make you wish you did commit suicide.

The "damage of thse people?" You have brought this up over and over again, and I don't see how this is relevent. Are you saying that most homosexuals get AIDs? That's absurd and flat out untrue.

Funny, that you honestly think you have seen it all? I am a father. I enforce my opinion on none of my children. I offer them suggestion, based on logic, and offer good advice. My children come to me first when they have a problem. I know the majority of what they have done. I know that they have both tried cigarrettes. One of them didn't care, but the other (the younger) maintained interest for about a month. My older son told me this, and to my younger daughter, I offered advice. I said: "if, by any means you want your life to be controlled by something else, by all means, keep smoking." One week later she threw out her pack, and has never touched them since.

You think I am weak? Spineless? A bad father? Well I will offer you this. My children have become their own people. They have grown up through good advice and their own experiences. Yes, they have made mistakes. We all have. But the way I helped them grow up, made them learn from those mistakes. I could not be prouder of my children now. Despite all the freedom that was available, they didn't abuse it. They didn't shoot themselves in the foot.
My son is a Junior in College. He graduated with a 3.92, and I never pressured him to succeed. I would encourage him, and let him rely on his own motivation for success.

My daughter is a Senior in High school. After joining the Jazz band (being a very good guitarist) she was accepted to Wooster College of Music. One of the best liberal arts/music colleges in the US.


We will be the judge of whose method is better. Mine, or yours. Just wait and see.

defense of this nation should be everyone's number one priority!!!! i support the implantation of ann coulter's eggs and artificial insemination of michael savage's sperm into as many women in the great nation of America as possible!!!!! BORDERS LANGUAGE CULTURE!!!!!

Let's make it simple and just stick to your basic question of what I have against the lifestyle choice of homosexuality, the rest was incoherent ranting.

Homosexuality is immoral in my OPINION. There is such a thing as morality, or moral sin if your a fundamentalist. As stated clearly, I'm an atheist, but I still have morals.

My morals tell me it is wrong to steal, kill, speed, and thousands of other things, including to be involved in a homosexual relationship. My philosophy is simple when it comes to gays, I think thier moral compass is just set different than mine and they accept that they are gay, more power to them. Some people accept that it is ok to smoke, I find it moraly wrong, it isn't a damn crime!

The problem is, as soon as anyone such as myself rejects the notion of homosexuality, people such as yourself automatically cite them as being abusive, non-caring assholes, when that is far from the truth.

I tolerate peoples livestyles openly, I console dying people damn near daily in one of the biggest hospitals in Colorado. Many of these people are young and have not begun to live a full life. I look at what has brought them to me, rather than to a happy lifestyle doing things that are productive and pleasing. When I weigh that data, I look at a huge assortment of behavior and I have to reject it as almost anti-social and flat out self-destructive.

Does that mean everyone who is gay will get AIDS? No, far from it, but damn sure not worth the gamble. Does it mean everyone who smokes pot will graduate up to a junky? Hardly, one of the smartest guys I know smokes pot everyday his entire adult life and I have not noticed any effect thus far.

But, the overwhelming data shows that allowing yourself to partake of such things is simply self-damaging and harmful much more than smoking cigarettes. So, I have obviously accepted this concept, how could I possibly go on and allow my kids to grow up not hearing this viewpoint, and just letting them "Take thier chances", or let your professors spin reality for them.

You may claim to know a great deal about homosexuality, but as I've said, I've had way too many death bed confessionals if you will, where I was told that it wasn't worth it. These are people I have spent weeks, and many times months with, caring for them at the most basic levels. To see them cry and wither away and literally HATE that they "were so stupid", "Didn't think it would happen to them", and on and on, this is very painful. They ultimately die of course. These are not rehab patients.

I go home, kiss my kids, and promise myself to show them the CONSEQUENCES of some decisions and choices we all have in life. Will that rpevent them from becoming gay? I have no control over that, and I would accept them if they did. But, it is my responsibility to give them the tour, and my boys have seen more dying gay people that you will ever see in your life, that I assure you.

I'm an atheist you moron. I have been for over 20 years. I could give two shits what Jesus said, he is nothing to me more than Mickey Mouse or Daffy Duck, Allah, Budda, Ra, Yahwe, or Kid Rock.

It isn't my kids responsibility to figure out everything for themselves, your an idiot. If that were the case we would have a society full of thugs, criminals, pot heads...oh, least I get ahead of myself

It is obvious to me that for the past decade you are all being taught everything of value is based upon your ability for tolerance. I reject this notion. I do not have to tolerate injustice, loss of my liberties, thievery of my finances or any of the other things you expect me to be tolerant of, especially social injustices. Homosexuality is simply wrong. Some people have always and will alwaysw chose to practice it, and that is fine with me, I tolerate them. But I don't teach it as an alternative or an acceptable for of social fabric, that is simply your youth talking, of which you know little.



I am 47 years old, first of all. Secondly, your psuedo-logical objectivism was destroyed by the same woman who created it. I am a firm beliver in this so called "theft of my finances". Because the other option is simply madness. I have watched (from a distance, note) over the past 20 years the damages done to Britain after a woman who thought much like you, decided to privatize the services once run by the state. You are foolish to keep following your own blind ideology regarding privatization and lower taxes.
Contrary to anything that you have been taught, the taxes you pay inevitably go back to benefit you. Whether they are used to pay for the roads you drive on, the police who protect you, the subsidies to businesses that keep your prices low, the welfare that allows the poor to not die in the streets (which would be quite a health hazard, to say the least) the money that goes into giving your children an education that is without equal in any other developed country in the world, all the money that you pay in taxes, will go back to benefit you. Even if it is just a tiny ripple, like when a soldier buys a hamburger at a chain in Iraq, the money that you lose in taxes, will inevitably come back to benefit you. In full? That depends on what part of the income spectrum you live in. The wealthy will recieve less, and the poor more, but since the wealthy are more self-sustaining, why does it matter?

Funny, that you honestly think you have seen it all? I am a father. I enforce my opinion on none of my children. I offer them suggestion, based on logic, and offer good advice. My children come to me first when they have a problem. I know the majority of what they have done. I know that they have both tried cigarrettes. One of them didn't care, but the other (the younger) maintained interest for about a month. My older son told me this, and to my younger daughter, I offered advice. I said: "if, by any means you want your life to be controlled by something else, by all means, keep smoking." One week later she threw out her pack, and has never touched them since.

You think I am weak? Spineless? A bad father? Well I will offer you this. My children have become their own people. They have grown up through good advice and their own experiences. Yes, they have made mistakes. We all have. But the way I helped them grow up, made them learn from those mistakes. I could not be prouder of my children now. Despite all the freedom that was available, they didn't abuse it. They didn't shoot themselves in the foot.
My son is a Junior in College. He graduated with a 3.92, and I never pressured him to succeed. I would encourage him, and let him rely on his own motivation for success.

My daughter is a Senior in High school. After joining the Jazz band (being a very good guitarist) she was accepted to Wooster College of Music. One of the best liberal arts/music colleges in the US.


We will be the judge of whose method is better. Mine, or yours. Just wait and see.


1. I didn't realize it was a compitition. I thought I was freely raising my own kids and not really interested what other parents did to raise their kids. Last time I looked I was being attacked for thinking for myself and doing it my way, while letting everyone else do it their way. Oh wait, that is still the case...continue...

2. Who said I have seen it all? I know what I know, have seen what I have seen, and try to base my decisions accordingly. What is right and good for you has nothing to do with me. Like I said, raising kids is not a compitition, it is the hardest thing in the world to do if your good at it, and the most rewarding.

3. I have no idea if you are weak, spineless or a bad father. I know I have a set of core values that I grew up with, and more that I adopted as I went through life. I spent 8 years in the Corps and was shot twice, that was a wakeup call. I work in a med/surg unit, so I get to talk to really fucked up people everyday, that's a wakeup call.

4. If I can manage to get my kids as far as college I feel I have done my job, so who am I to tell you what to do. I never did and am not going to now. I'm just starting out, my kids are toddlers and I'm 36.

Being British I had never heard of her. But I saw a photo of her on the web - She looks attractive...

I am 47 years old, first of all. Secondly, your psuedo-logical objectivism was destroyed by the same woman who created it. I am a firm beliver in this so called "theft of my finances". Because the other option is simply madness. I have watched (from a distance, note) over the past 20 years the damages done to Britain after a woman who thought much like you, decided to privatize the services once run by the state. You are foolish to keep following your own blind ideology regarding privatization and lower taxes.
Contrary to anything that you have been taught, the taxes you pay inevitably go back to benefit you. Whether they are used to pay for the roads you drive on, the police who protect you, the subsidies to businesses that keep your prices low, the welfare that allows the poor to not die in the streets (which would be quite a health hazard, to say the least) the money that goes into giving your children an education that is without equal in any other developed country in the world, all the money that you pay in taxes, will go back to benefit you. Even if it is just a tiny ripple, like when a soldier buys a hamburger at a chain in Iraq, the money that you lose in taxes, will inevitably come back to benefit you. In full? That depends on what part of the income spectrum you live in. The wealthy will recieve less, and the poor more, but since the wealthy are more self-sustaining, why does it matter?


ok, I think your hitting the bottle or something. I have no idea what vein of logic your on, but I think it is time for you to get off of it, bye bye

ok, I just have to ask this lol...

Did you make a mistake and quote me rather than someone else?

Where did the privitization and taxes and the rest of your sentence come from?

I am absolutely at a loss, and I don't think I can help you clarify it lol

Let's make it simple and just stick to your basic question of what I have against the lifestyle choice of homosexuality, the rest was incoherent ranting.

Homosexuality is immoral in my OPINION. There is such a thing as morality, or moral sin if your a fundamentalist. As stated clearly, I'm an atheist, but I still have morals.

My morals tell me it is wrong to steal, kill, speed, and thousands of other things, including to be involved in a homosexual relationship. My philosophy is simple when it comes to gays, I think thier moral compass is just set different than mine and they accept that they are gay, more power to them. Some people accept that it is ok to smoke, I find it moraly wrong, it isn't a damn crime!

The problem is, as soon as anyone such as myself rejects the notion of homosexuality, people such as yourself automatically cite them as being abusive, non-caring assholes, when that is far from the truth.

I tolerate peoples livestyles openly, I console dying people damn near daily in one of the biggest hospitals in Colorado. Many of these people are young and have not begun to live a full life. I look at what has brought them to me, rather than to a happy lifestyle doing things that are productive and pleasing. When I weigh that data, I look at a huge assortment of behavior and I have to reject it as almost anti-social and flat out self-destructive.

Does that mean everyone who is gay will get AIDS? No, far from it, but damn sure not worth the gamble. Does it mean everyone who smokes pot will graduate up to a junky? Hardly, one of the smartest guys I know smokes pot everyday his entire adult life and I have not noticed any effect thus far.

But, the overwhelming data shows that allowing yourself to partake of such things is simply self-damaging and harmful much more than smoking cigarettes. So, I have obviously accepted this concept, how could I possibly go on and allow my kids to grow up not hearing this viewpoint, and just letting them "Take thier chances", or let your professors spin reality for them.

You may claim to know a great deal about homosexuality, but as I've said, I've had way too many death bed confessionals if you will, where I was told that it wasn't worth it. These are people I have spent weeks, and many times months with, caring for them at the most basic levels. To see them cry and wither away and literally HATE that they "were so stupid", "Didn't think it would happen to them", and on and on, this is very painful. They ultimately die of course. These are not rehab patients.

I go home, kiss my kids, and promise myself to show them the CONSEQUENCES of some decisions and choices we all have in life. Will that rpevent them from becoming gay? I have no control over that, and I would accept them if they did. But, it is my responsibility to give them the tour, and my boys have seen more dying gay people that you will ever see in your life, that I assure you.


Awww, how sweet! Except you miss one very important thing. Those who practiced homosexuality and died of AIDS all did the same way. They had sex with many, many partners, sometimes multiple partners per day. Of course, I am sure you have talked to them, and can confirm that may have been part of the reality (the exception would be those homosexuals that had few partners, but met one that had HIV) However, anyone, straight, bisexual, homosexual, who practices a lifestyle that involves multiple partners, will always be at a greater risk. Simply because the homosexual population contracted it first, does not imply that it is their fault.

The normal, everyday homosexuals that I know do not have multiple partners. They are usually in love with the person that they are with. Except for the distinguishing genitalia, they are exactly the same as a normal male/female couple.

Oh, and about the dying gay people, your last point. When I lived in San Francisco, 1984-1987, I was a personal witness to what you have also seen. In my days of youthful idealism, I was appalled at the enormous amount of death throughout the homosexual community. So I volunteered at the San Francisco General Hospital. I am not an idealist anymore. I saw more death than you can even imagine. We would have hundreds die, daily. The HIV pandemic struck its hardest in San Francisco. No where else in America can compare to the death that lay in that city. Do I know what I'm talking about? From personal experience? I do believe so. There is no longer any reason to use age or inexperience as a vice against me. You have been disproved by the same means with which you would try to disprove me.

1. I didn't realize it was a compitition. I thought I was freely raising my own kids and not really interested what other parents did to raise their kids. Last time I looked I was being attacked for thinking for myself and doing it my way, while letting everyone else do it their way. Oh wait, that is still the case...continue...

2. Who said I have seen it all? I know what I know, have seen what I have seen, and try to base my decisions accordingly. What is right and good for you has nothing to do with me. Like I said, raising kids is not a compitition, it is the hardest thing in the world to do if your good at it, and the most rewarding.

3. I have no idea if you are weak, spineless or a bad father. I know I have a set of core values that I grew up with, and more that I adopted as I went through life. I spent 8 years in the Corps and was shot twice, that was a wakeup call. I work in a med/surg unit, so I get to talk to really fucked up people everyday, that's a wakeup call.

4. If I can manage to get my kids as far as college I feel I have done my job, so who am I to tell you what to do. I never did and am not going to now. I'm just starting out, my kids are toddlers and I'm 36.


Oh, a competition this is not. I presented you the option that worked best for them, and I suggest that with the changes that society is taking, that this may be the best option for you in the future. This is from one father to another. In that we have a similarity. And as one who has, in his own eyes, raised two very successful children, I am offering you the method that worked best for them. Will your children be different? Because, in all truth, we must bend to the needs of our children, not our children to the ways of us. The rebellion and harm that could be caused far outweighs all other potential dangers. We must adapt to our children, just as we had to adapt to them when they were babies.

ok, I just have to ask this lol...

Did you make a mistake and quote me rather than someone else?

Where did the privitization and taxes and the rest of your sentence come from?

I am absolutely at a loss, and I don't think I can help you clarify it lol

You made a statement earlier regarding your value against "theft of finances" which is commonly used as a justification for privatization, and against taxes. Your pattern of speech was following that of somone who believed in that system, and I felt more than justified in jumping right in.

You may claim to know a great deal about homosexuality, but as I've said, I've had way too many death bed confessionals if you will, where I was told that it wasn't worth it. These are people I have spent weeks, and many times months with, caring for them at the most basic levels. To see them cry and wither away and literally HATE that they "were so stupid", "Didn't think it would happen to them", and on and on, this is very painful. They ultimately die of course. These are not rehab patients.

I go home, kiss my kids, and promise myself to show them the CONSEQUENCES of some decisions and choices we all have in life. Will that rpevent them from becoming gay? I have no control over that, and I would accept them if they did. But, it is my responsibility to give them the tour, and my boys have seen more dying gay people that you will ever see in your life, that I assure you.
if you want to teach your children that being gay is immoral that's your business, but teaching them that homosexuality is medically dangerous qualifies as a flat-out lie. it's not homosexuality that caused that horrible epidemic, it's PROMISCUITY. homosexual males who limit their partners are not in any more danger of contracting diseases than heterosexual males, and homosexual females are LESS likely to contract disease than heterosexual females.

being gay doesn't cause disease, being promiscuous does, and if you are wasting time telling your kids not to be gay-- instead of telling them to practice safe sex with whoever they choose to sleep with-- then you are putting them in danger. if you leave them with the impression that being gay is what makes people get STDs then you are encouraging a dangerous misconception in their minds, and putting them at further risk.

I can only offer you this before I leave (I desperately need sleep). Taking from someone who has seen what you have, and has a few years more success and experience, I suggest that a change of perspective would be helpful in the future. As society changes, so must we, for fear of being swept asunder. As society moves away from homophobia, you will remain, a sore, swollen, weeping boil. Jutting out for the world to see. There will be a time, when your views are as frowned upon as racism. And it will be soon. So, for your own safety, rethink your philosophy and look hard at the logic of all your personal moral ethics, either that, or move to a compound and arm yourself. Otherwise you will not be popular.

*Suggestion to look out for Molotov Cocktails being flung at his house*

Anne Coultier.
Is that her real name?

Did she change it cause it sounds too French?

Every liberal thinks every conservative is a reincarnation of Hitler, but Hitler was a damn liberal you idiots lol

Does every moronic troll think that every liberal thinks every conservative is a reincarnation of Hitler? Or just a few?

Is that her real name?

Did she change it cause it sounds too French?

No, she changed it, or her forbares did, because it is french.

hahaha, now that was an exciting reply. You don't like your own methods, and your so hurt...sniff sniff...suddenly you want to be articulate, and not simply call me a Nazi. I feel so special, I think I'm going to go and find me a gay lover and get a hug...


Mmmmkay...

Oh, and all of that aggression you guys have, it really highlights my point nicely. If I lick your boots you like me, if I have my own opinions then you act like, well DEMOCRATS. Freedom of speech is only reserved for you and those that think like you...well kiss me assholiooooo

1) When did Goed ever call you a Nazi?

2) When did Goed ever say that you, or even Ann Bat-Shit-Insane Coulter, should not be free to speak?

I hear a hundred times a day how conservatives are Hitler, and now suddenly you want to make the moot point that "You" didn't use the term. I was not aware of your existance prior to you opening your shithole and speaking.

Perrien, is one warning not enough?

This is now your second Forum Moderator warning. If you continue to go on flaming, you will be forumbanned for a length of time at my discretion.


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Now having read all that crap, both sides, I am left wondering what all this has to do with Ms. Bat-Shit-Insane-and-Evil.

Perrien, Ms. Coultier declares that all homosexuals and those who would teach that they should be tolerated if not accepted are unamerican traitors and should be rounded up and put in camps. Let's try to get this back on track, shall we, Perrien? And try not to get banned:

A) agree?

B) disagree?

If you choose (A) then explain the inconsistancies with the position of grudging tolerence that you have expressed here.

If you choose (B) then tell me how your offendedness at "turd-pushing" leads you to defend Ms. Coulter, who is in fact a Fascist. (If anyone here has called you one, perhaps it was due to your alliegence with her.)

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare.php

ROFLMAO I think I'll keep that link for future use or amusement!

"Ann Coulter is a sideshow Geek who bites the heads off Liberals as part of her show. She is a fine spokesperson for George Bush's 'compassionate conservatism.'"

- Mick Youther

how is "nazi" not an option?

c'mon... blonde hair, blue eyes, endless supply of racial epithets directed at the country's current (semitic) enemy group of choice, the arabs, and a frequent tendency to assert the sole use of college campuses as being "concentration camps for useless peaceniks during war time"

and advocacy for the physical intimidation and violence against dissenters.
and their rounding up in concentration camps.

oh, and fiery rhetoric designed to inspire hatred while saying little of substance.

in conclusion:
anne coulter = nazi
seems obvious to me.

and also a frothing-at-the-mouth-incoherent-psycho

She's a crazy, loony, nazi bitch.

What is there to discuss?

NOTE: Before I get blasted, note that I never said I hate her and want her to die :p. She has the rights we all do-the right to be a crazy, loony, nazi bitch :p

Ok, gee I got that one wrong. Nobody ever has called Ann Coulter or me a Nazi for being a conservative. You good ole boys sure got me there. Gee, I'm just jumping to conclusions all over the place. If you bothered to ever read your liberal views you would realise that hardly a debate ever takes place without you throwing your "NAZI" slang around. As a result, It is really hard to even take you serious. It would be similar at this point to me doing nothing but calling liberal Daffy Duck and claiming victory.

That's about how complex your argument rings at this point.

P.s. Anybody but Bush...go Ann!!!

So let me get this right. If your a liberal, it is ok to call people Crazy, looney, nazi, bitch, and dozens of other names. If your a conservative and you say that people push poop, your threatened with a ban.

This again, is the real argument of liberalism and conservatism. Liberals want freedom of speech as long as they are the ones doing all of the talking. The second you take issue with them, your deemed intolerant, which is viewed as much worse than naziism or facism. The truth is, if your a conservative your told to not be here and to just go away.

Well, as they say in the hood...fuck ya'll.

Have a nice day biyatch!

I have never called anyone a Nazi who was not a member of the Nazi Party. Ann Coulter, however, is a Fascist. This is not an insult. This is a statement of fact. Read her writings if you don't believe me, and disagree all you want.

And please answer my questions posted to you.

The truth is, if your a conservative your told to not be here and to just go away.

That's not true. There are a lot of conservatives who post here, and very few get forumbanned. (disclaimer: I am NOT a moderator, just using their term) :)

Well, as they say in the hood...fuck ya'll.

Have a nice day biyatch!

But most of us don't resort to this to argue our points. And before you jump to conclusions about me, I'm a 41 yr old mother of 2. :D

“It is simply a fact that Max Cleland was not injured by enemy fire in Vietnam. He was not in combat, he was not...on a reconnaissance mission, and he was not in the battle of Khe Sanh, as many others have implied. He picked up an American grenade on a routine noncombat mission and the grenade exploded.”-- Column, 2/18/04

If you can stand to read the rest of that column, Coulter implies that Max Cleland received his Silver and Bronze Stars for having an accident. She neglects to mention Captain Cleland earned his medals “by exceptionally valorous action on 4 April 1968 … during an enemy attack near Khe Sanh.”—four days prior to his “accident”. Coulter states that Max Cleland wasn’t even in the battle of Khe Sanh.

http://www.interventionmag.com/cms/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=666

Ann Coultier is a libeller.

Ann who is the best repsonce to give that gimp.

That's not true. There are a lot of conservatives who post here, and very few get forumbanned. (disclaimer: I am NOT a moderator, just using their term) :)



But most of us don't resort to this to argue our points. And before you jump to conclusions about me, I'm a 41 yr old mother of 2. :D

But the thing is... there was word play between a liberal and a conservative that both went over the line. Way way over the line.

The moderator choose to warn the conservative.

Oh, and all of that aggression you guys have, it really highlights my point nicely. If I lick your boots you like me, if I have my own opinions then you act like, well DEMOCRATS. Freedom of speech is only reserved for you and those that think like you...well kiss me assholiooooo
Did you even read Goed's post? As regards freedom of speech and civil rights, did Goed ever deny your right to speak? And wasn't it Republicans Ashcroft and Bush who created the USA PATRIOT Act?

oh, and one specific point. Who the hell are you, or the government to teach anyones kids that they have the right to chose to be gay? Gayness is not an alternative, it is a birthright of gay people, so why should it be taught as a valid OPTION? Your pathetic you slimey ACLU worm...

Teach your own kids to be homo's and leave the rest of us to teach our kids the difference between right and wrong.
It's a civil liberty. It's so sad that those who stand up for civil liberties now are vilified. You would probably hate Thomas Jefferson and George Washington.

Once again, please show us somewhere that someone said "we need to teach our kids to be gay".

But the thing is... there was word play between a liberal and a conservative that both went over the line. Way way over the line.

The moderator choose to warn the conservative.

One went over the line first, farther, and more often than the other. Guess which one?

I think Coulter is entertaining the same way I think moore is entertaining. Although I would much rather see Ms. Coulter naked over the other. But the film of the other would be quite entertaining (at least to sale to guiness book of ugliest naked people) I bet so I am right back where I started. Vicious circles I tell ya.

Ok, gee I got that one wrong. Nobody ever has called Ann Coulter or me a Nazi for being a conservative. You good ole boys sure got me there. Gee, I'm just jumping to conclusions all over the place. If you bothered to ever read your liberal views you would realise that hardly a debate ever takes place without you throwing your "NAZI" slang around. As a result, It is really hard to even take you serious. It would be similar at this point to me doing nothing but calling liberal Daffy Duck and claiming victory.

That's about how complex your argument rings at this point.

P.s. Anybody but Bush...go Ann!!!

Out of curiosity, do you require glasses? I'm near sighted, so I do. I'm wondering of you're far sighted and therefore cannot read my post SINCE YOU DIDN'T.

READ IT. I clearly state "She's a crazy nazi, but hey-that's her right." I didn't say "anyone who agrees with her is a nazi." I didn't say "all conservatives are nazis."


Oh, and if you read my other posts, I said quite clearly that it ISN'T conservative against liberal. How did that go again...?

Ahhh, yes.

Nobody is saying "OMG they disagree with me, EVIL!" I know people who disagree with me on issues, and we get along just fine. It's when someone takes a stance on these issues to this extreem that things get hectic.

All you've done is flame away without responding to any posts made. When it was apparent that wasn't enough, you started talking about hospitals and other such things that had NO bearing on the subject.

You seem to hate liberals a lot there, pal. And hate is never a friendly emotion. Calm down, re-read the thread, only this time do it with both eyes and mind open.




Oh, and for the record, sorry for all the insults and flames :D

But the thing is... there was word play between a liberal and a conservative that both went over the line. Way way over the line.

The moderator choose to warn the conservative.

Maybe it's just me, but the conservative was the one who started off using a lot more foul language and flaming tactics.
Though the mods do appear to be more left-leaning.

I have never called anyone a Nazi who was not a member of the Nazi Party. Ann Coulter, however, is a Fascist. This is not an insult. This is a statement of fact. Read her writings if you don't believe me, and disagree all you want.

And please answer my questions posted to you.

Liar!

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=355966&page=3&pp=15

Suck it, nazi.

But the thing is... there was word play between a liberal and a conservative that both went over the line. Way way over the line.

The moderator choose to warn the conservative.

Ahhh the old black and white conservative logic? ;)

I will speak as a former mod of a major gaming site.

You don't know why the person was warned over the other. Do you monitor? Do you talk to other mods about the actions of the person.

It could very well be this is the liberals first transgression and it could be that the conservative has been pushing the line.....

The mods are her are level handed when it comes to punishment. I have seen a few bans and they were warrented. In some cases they let the person go on longer then I would have so they are paticent with the ban button.

It could very well be this is the liberals first transgression and it could be that the conservative has been pushing the line....


Pot: Hey, Kettle
Kettle: Yeah?
Pot: FUCKING ******!

Regardless of who was first... and I would have much prefered a general warning in this thread... I would have thought that Goed's post had deserved mention. It did not. I just question why.

Say, if Anne Coultier was a member of this forum, would she have been banned already?




No, she changed it, or her forbares did, because it is french.
Thanks.

Say, if Anne Coultier was a member of this forum, would she have been banned already?

Thanks.

Who's to say she isn't?

She could be; there are a few people who talk like her.

She could be; there are a few people who talk like her.
Parroting someone doesn't make you be someone, much as some people would probably like that.

Liar!

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=355966&page=3&pp=15

Oh, ya caught me... Nazi! :p

I've agreed with her now and then and prefer her to other people like her but anyway I will vote other as I neither dislike nor like her really, neutral

Regardless of who was first... and I would have much prefered a general warning in this thread... I would have thought that Goed's post had deserved mention. It did not. I just question why.

See, I meant that as a joke in reference to the old pot/kettle adage. No racism or offense meant, sorry ;)

Regardless of who was first... and I would have much prefered a general warning in this thread... I would have thought that Goed's post had deserved mention. It did not. I just question why.

Agreed. The pot-kettle thing was pretty bad.

I would much rather see Ms. Coulter naked
I've seen her naked. She IS hot. So hot in fact that the heat vision from her venomously-hateful eyes set the camera on fire, which is why I can't show you prints.

Sorry.

Oh, ya caught me... Nazi! :p

You might find calling someone a Nazi (for no reason) funny, I do not. You have been proven Racist, and now a Liar, all I need to do is to prove you are a bad dancer...

But seriously, if you want to hate me fine, frankly I don't give a care in the world, but don't spread the hate you did on that other topic, nor the lies you have spread - i.e. calling me a Nazi.

I’ll forgive you, as my faith tells me to, and besides, I’d rather have friends than enemies on this forum, but you must accept my view not as a form of Racism.

And I take this kind of bullshit seriously, don't ever call me a Nazi!

I've seen her naked. She IS hot. So hot in fact that the heat vision from her venomously-hateful eyes set the camera on fire, which is why I can't show you prints.

Sorry.

Damn, At least draw me a picture. :)

Ok, so let me get this straight. We have all pretty much agreed that Ann Coulter is much better than James CArville right? I mean who wants to sleep with James Carville....Yuuuuck....

You might find calling someone a Nazi (for no reason) funny, I do not. You have been proven Racist, and now a Liar, all I need to do is to prove you are a bad dancer...

But seriously, if you want to hate me fine, frankly I don't give a care in the world, but don't spread the hate you did on that other topic, nor the lies you have spread - i.e. calling me a Nazi.

I’ll forgive you, as my faith tells me to, and besides, I’d rather have friends than enemies on this forum, but you must accept my view not as a form of Racism.

And I take this kind of bullshit seriously, don't ever call me a Nazi!

How have I been proven a racist? By refering to you as a White, or your people as white? Dude, I am white. You may think I hate Whites, but I don't hate anybody and in fact I love everybody (though you make it hard). I certainly do hate the White Shame philosophy that people like you keep continuing, the crap that makes it so hard for me to have pride in my own heritage. YOU people make the rest of us ashamed, and I'm sick of it.

I am a Bad Dancer, but then again, I am a Liar, so who ya gonna believe?

I do not hate you (I am not lying now ;) ), my faith tells me not to, and I do not hate your people, be they Whites, Whites Who Think They Are the True Hebrews, or whatever. However wasn't it you who recently said you hate Israel with a vengence? Vengence for what, I might ask you?

Was it you or another member of your Party here who advocated a nationalistic stance of the government to forcibly emigrate Jews and do whatever is needed to remove any resistors? Well, I think it was another Christian Identity username, so no reason to apply that to you, so... sorry. :(

B.T.,W. how can you have forgiven me already prior to my repentence? Anyway, you can do so now. But I am sorry we can never be friends, unless you give up your hatred of God's people, Israel, and stop trying to falsely claim for yourself their covenent with Him. This theory of Covenent Redistribution is not new. It was at the root of the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition, as well as the Third Reich, and it is also at the root of the popular islamic heresey that Muslims have inherited the covenent that God made with the Jews and declared eternal. And no, they were not called Jews when He first proclaimed His covenent. (Our own people, on the other hand, have never been called Hebrews.) You may make much of saying that you do not hate individual Jews, only their nation, but your Covenent Redistribution theory has been the death of millions of Jews through history.

I called you Nazi, and I apologize. You however have called me the most hateful person you have ever encountered, all because I tell you that you're not really an Israelite? Or was my reference to Inbred Unclefuckers a little too close to home? For someone who seems to want to see the Arabs "push the Jews into the sea", you really are pretty thin-skinned when it comes to being called names. And b.t.w., calling somebody "hateful" qualifies as that.

O.K., peace.

Let me ask you something: was Jeramiah a Jew or an Israelite? What about Joseph, father of Jesus? He was Judean, wasn't he? What about Ezra, Nehemiah, and the other post-Captivity prophets? Were they Hebrews? Hadn't the "true Hebrews" been taken north into Europe?

"Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews."

- Jesus ben Joseph
The Gospel of Jesus Christ according to Saint John, 4:22

That's Jesus, calling himself a Jew.

In fact, let's go here:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=357296

And return this thread to discussion of Ms. Bat-Shit-Insane-Fascist-Whore Coultier.

Mmmmmmmm Ann Coulter...can I have a kiss?

:fluffle:

Dreamy...I want to hold you forever....

Yeah she's pretty hot for an anorexic ... she'd need to consent to the ball gag before I would touch her though.

Yeah she's pretty hot for an anorexic ... she'd need to consent to the ball gag before I would touch her though.


No.

Its no fun if she consents.

No.

Its no fun if she consents.

tsk tsk tsk... S.S.C.* is the only way.

Besides talk like that could get ya banned.

But what would be better? Fool her into thinking you're one of them, as I am sure she is into bdsm, and then when she's all tied up and panting... hehehe... let her know what you really think. :devilface:



* Safe, Sane and Consentual.

But what would be better? Fool her into thinking you're one of them, as I am sure she is into bdsm, and then when she's all tied up and panting... hehehe... let her know what you really think. :devilface:[/size]

Wow. I'm getting the feeling that you've broken a lot of minds in your day...

O.K. I have voted: Other.

She is either thoroughly evil or insane to the point of moral non-responsibility with evil affect.

False alarm folks. Looks like Mick Youther is the liar here:

http://www.anncoulter.org/columns/2004/021804e.htm

Turn off the sound, and she's almost as hot as Allison Janney -- y'know: C.J. Craig on "the West Wing".
Leave the sound on, AAAUUUGH! Whatta (excuse me) Jingoist Bitch!

An anorexic whore that preaches "family values"

False alarm folks. Looks like Mick Youther is the liar here:

http://www.anncoulter.org/columns/2004/021804e.htm
Whoa, a retraction from a Lib? There might still be some hope for you.

She's a heroine all right ... a heroine addict!!!!! I think the drug and the kind of person are spelled differently but meh. Anyways, what the #$%^ is wrong with her?

An anorexic whore that preaches "family values"

I apologize for putting to posts so close together, but I just have something to say about this quote ... BURN!!!!!

I put other because there was no "Psycho-bitch" option, and I think that "complete loony" doesn't have quite the same accuracy.

Christ. This thread is still up?

There are few people alive who are more consistently and fundamentally wrong than Ann Coulter.

She is the unholy spawn of Satan.

Nobody ever has called Ann Coulter or me a Nazi for being a conservative.
Right. But Ann Coulter is not a conservative. She is a fascist. They're not the same thing. I don't know if you're a fascist, but if someone called you that it's because you like Coulter.

Originally Posted by Perrien
"Nobody ever has called Ann Coulter or me a Nazi for being a conservative."

They haven't? Ok, you're a Rush fatbaugh loving-Nazi. :)

There are few people alive who are more consistently and fundamentally wrong than Ann Coulter.
And who are yet more often rewarded with appearances on nationally televised talk shows and are given national platforms from which to spew their inanities. And it's not even like she's attractive or anything.

She just makes outrageous statements to sell books and make money. Her sources don't even check out in many cases, don't exist. I've seen her say as much about her intentions, there are smart conservatives out there and she's not one of them.

She just makes outrageous statements to sell books and make money. Her sources don't even check out in many cases, don't exist. I've seen her say as much about her intentions, there are smart conservatives out there and she's not one of them.

Ann Coulter = Michael Moore.

Pundits suck!

(Before you rant about defending Moore or Coulter, it's all a matter of perspective. I abhore both.)

She's like a comedian right? she's playing a caricature of a Republican and selling it back to those very same people?

Whoa, a retraction from a Lib? There might still be some hope for you.

Who's a lib? Anyone who understands what psycho fucktards people like Coulter and Bush are?

Ann Coulter = Michael Moore.

Pundits suck!

(Before you rant about defending Moore or Coulter, it's all a matter of perspective. I abhore both.)

I'm not particularly fond of Moore's tactics, although we share a few causes (though he tends to be more extreme in his positions than me). I personally have far more distaste for Coulter, but there's a bunch of reasons for this, not the least of which is I read more of her stuff (and she tends to get more air time). I'm also part of some of the groups (liberal, pro-separation of church and state, doesn't feel that Muslims should be killed and converted, etc.) that she explicitly targets, whereas I'm not on Moore's shit list.