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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=4&u=/ap/20040911/ap_on_re_eu/un_nuclear_agency_iran_3

That means in about 10 months the UN will draft another resolution threatening to draft more resolutions unless Iran startes being really really nice.

I say Iran has only 10 years left before the UN really gets mad - at the US for enforcing one of their resolutions.

They must be terrified.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=4&u=/ap/20040911/ap_on_re_eu/un_nuclear_agency_iran_3

That means in about 10 months the UN will draft another resolution threatening to draft more resolutions unless Iran startes being really really nice.

I say Iran has only 10 years left before the UN really gets mad - at the US for enforcing one of their resolutions.

They must be terrified.
The UN's response to the sudanese genocide was equally terrifying.

The UN's response to the sudanese genocide was equally terrifying.

Yeah, it was like they had an "I don't care" attitude.

Yeah, it was like they had an "I don't care" attitude.
Funny how the UN can condem the hell out of israel, who never commited a genocide, and can't do a thing about sudan, which is working on it's second.

Now guys, you know that if the UN dosen't do anything clearly whatever Bush or any other evil Republican bible beating extremist says badly about Iran means that he's just setting up lies to continue the war of imperialism and get more oil while taking out these nice democratic regimes, and that it must automatically be lies because the UN isn't doing anything and we all know that we should trust the UN with any act of war because if we don't than it will be illegal and we all know that everyone respected the UN after WW2 and there have been no wars of agression because everyone is too afraid to break international law except for Bush "Oil" Jr. and his war on Iraq for revenge for his dad.

:p ;) :rolleyes:

YEAH! Lets invade them! NOW! I mean, we handled Iraq and ´stan so brilliant we´d better start another war while we´re at it! Onwrad Chrisitan soldiers! Not to mention it will distract attention from the desaster in Iraq and ´stan!

I wonder who´ll be the Iranian Al-Sadr?

Note: I was being sarcastic.

YEAH! Lets invade them! NOW! I mean, we handled Iraq and ´stan so brilliant we´d better start another war while we´re at it! Onwrad Chrisitan soldiers! Not to mention it will distract attention from the desaster in Iraq and ´stan!

I wonder who´ll be the Iranian Al-Sadr?

Note: I was being sarcastic.
More dead GIs, more unhappy US citizens at home. Possible nuclear bombing of the US... I say, go fer it. If you can live with the consequences.

Meh, Iran will have civilian nuclear power plants and probably a few nukes at the end of the decade, so what? They're doing OK economically, the internal reforms have had setbacks but are getting somewhere at least, way better than the Gulf Arab kingdoms anyway, they're not going to throw all that away and commit suicide by attacking someone. Wish I could say the same for their enemies.

Now guys, you know that if the UN dosen't do anything clearly whatever Bush or any other evil Republican bible beating extremist says badly about Iran means that he's just setting up lies to continue the war of imperialism and get more oil while taking out these nice democratic regimes, and that it must automatically be lies because the UN isn't doing anything and we all know that we should trust the UN with any act of war because if we don't than it will be illegal and we all know that everyone respected the UN after WW2 and there have been no wars of agression because everyone is too afraid to break international law except for Bush "Oil" Jr. and his war on Iraq for revenge for his dad.

:p ;) :rolleyes:


Um, dude. I'm not one to really care about spelling or grammar, but a period every now and then would really help alot.

Meh, Iran will have civilian nuclear power plants and probably a few nukes at the end of the decade, so what? They're doing OK economically, the internal reforms have had setbacks but are getting somewhere at least, way better than the Gulf Arab kingdoms anyway, they're not going to throw all that away and commit suicide by attacking someone. Wish I could say the same for their enemies.

And heck, that whole Hamas thing is now nothing more a social drinking club...

Their people have wanted a revolution for a while. We have troops stationed on either side of it. So I dont think the people of Iran would mind if we went in (most of them anyways). Then we would have a broad beach head in the Middle Eastern world.

Their people have wanted a revolution for a while. We have troops stationed on either side of it. So I dont think the people of Iran would mind if we went in (most of them anyways). Then we would have a broad beach head in the Middle Eastern world.
For what? To Americanize the remaining arab nations? At least then, you will further prove that the terrorists were right with 9/11.

For what? To Americanize the remaining arab nations? At least then, you will further prove that the terrorists were right with 9/11.
You mean like providing freedom, rights and removing the political oppression of the Ayatollahs?

Well if freedom=Americanization, then lets Americanize the world.

And yes, the terrorists on 9-11 don't want anyone to have freedom - they believe in the repression of a church-state, such as is found in Iran.

Nobody will touch Iran.

....israel, who never commited a genocide....Funny how some people are totally blind...

Their people have wanted a revolution for a while. We have troops stationed on either side of it. So I dont think the people of Iran would mind if we went in (most of them anyways). Then we would have a broad beach head in the Middle Eastern world. Are you serious?

Iranians are highly patriotic and very religious. As much as they dislike their strict government, they don't want US forces on their soil. Why makes you think you have the right to change somebody else's government? You ignorance is frightening. Saddam thought he could exploit the divides within Iran's government and it backfired with the Iranian population uniting to fight a foreign invader.

Iran is a regional power, not a weak nation like Iraq. Unless you want to fight a war against 80 million people, I suggest you keep out of Iran. Despite what the West labels it, Iran is one of the most democratic nations in the Middle East (compared to the Arab nations. Iran is not an Arab nation for those you don't understand the basics of the M.E.).

Why makes you think you have the right to change somebody else's government?
We're the worlds most powerful country, we have a right and duty to do things like that.

...So I dont think the people of Iran would mind if we went in....They will receive our soldiers with Roses and Dancing in the Streets :D

You mean like providing freedom, rights and removing the political oppression of the Ayatollahs?

Well if freedom=Americanization, then lets Americanize the world.

And yes, the terrorists on 9-11 don't want anyone to have freedom - they believe in the repression of a church-state, such as is found in Iran.
Freedom is not exclusive to the US nor is the US the epitome of freedom (anymore). If the US spread American values, then that is primarily corporate interests and the exploitation of resources, such as oil. The US have no mandate to spread western values all over the world - that is not how mankind works.

So Iran is in trouble . . . will the UN balk tho when it steps up to the plate?

More dead GIs, more unhappy US citizens at home. Possible nuclear bombing of the US... I say, go fer it. If you can live with the consequences.

They can prepare for a second 9/11 then. I hope that it will be one of the 100 missing Russian Suitcase nukes (mini nukes that will kill approxm. 50.000 by detonation) then, the effect will be better, nice to see what they will do then, nuke a nation in the third world? An innocent one of course.
Hope also that warmongers like Kwangistar will be under the dead. In fact they better develop a bomb that only kills extreme republicans,nazis, zionists, Bin Ladens aso. or other bad persons, would be a better world then.

The US is a little overstretched with Afghanistan and Iraq both having issues with the locals. Iran is well armed (thanks to US and other nations) and not messed up like Iraq was after Gulf War I.

We're the worlds most powerful country, we have a right and duty to do things like that. What duty? The duty of hegemony and neo-imperialism?

As powerful as the US is, China and Saudi Arabia have the US economy by the balls. I wonder how powerful the US would be economically if the Saudis cut the oil (and their US investments) and China stopped trade.

They can prepare for a second 9/11 then. I hope that it will be one of the 100 missing Russian Suitcase nukes (mini nukes that will kill approxm. 50.000 by detonation) then, the effect will be better, nice to see what they will do then, nuke a nation in the third world? An innocent one of course.
Hope also that warmongers like Kwangistar will be under the dead. In fact they better develop a bomb that only kills extreme republicans,nazis, zionists, Bin Ladens aso. or other bad persons, would be a better world then.
And I hope you go to a country like Iran and learn what its like to live there.

What duty? The duty of hegemony and neo-imperialism?

As powerful as the US is, China and Saudi Arabia have the US economy by the balls. I wonder how powerful the US would be economically if the Saudis cut the oil (and their US investments) and China stopped trade.
They'd be more screwed than we were. Saudi Arabia's main market is Europe, we'd replace their portion with oil that costs more from other countries. We could find China's cheap labor elsewhere, too. More expensive things, certainly, but they can't replace the largest, richest market in the world.

And I hope you go to a country like Iran and learn what its like to live there. Have you ever been outside of the US?

Have you ever been outside of the US?
Yes.

They're doing OK economically, the internal reforms have had setbacks but are getting somewhere at least

The internal reforms in Iran have NOT got anywhere.

The reformist president has been so entirely sidelined by the religious establishment that he is effectively capable of action. Each election the ayatollahs ban more and more reform-minded candidates, and soon only arch-conservatives will even be eligible to stand. The winds of change that once started to blow through the media and universities have been reversed through a series of discriminatory legal rulings, a massive religious and political clampdown, heavy jail time for those who dared speak their mind, and even violence and murder.

Economically Iran is suffering from severe underinvestment, growing unemployment [from an already high base-rate] and a lack of direction. Only the rising price of oil is keeping the economy afloat.

And I hope you go to a country like Iran and learn what its like to live there.
You sound as if everyone in Iran or other arab nations has to fear being murdered on the open street in broad daylight for no reason. Obviously you've been subject to too much US propaganda.

Saudi Arabia's main market is Europe I think Russia has become Europe's main supplier now. I'd say Libya is soon to be another major exporter to Europe also.

And I hope you go to a country like Iran and learn what its like to live there.
I neither want to be in Iran today.
But I admittedly don´t want to be in Iraq either.
The likelihood to die in bomb blasts is much higher in Iraq than in Iran.
So, I prefer to stay in the "West". Europe or North America.

You sound as if everyone in Iran or other arab nations has to fear being murdered on the open street in broad daylight for no reason. Obviously you've been subject to too much US propaganda.
Well I didn't say that but go ahead and think I did if it makes you feel better. I don't know how what I said could have implied that.

The US is a little overstretched with Afghanistan and Iraq both having issues with the locals. Iran is well armed (thanks to US and other nations) and not messed up like Iraq was after Gulf War I.

the US can crush Iran just like it can with most nations, you really don't think that a Iranian campaign would be difficult. The most modern aircraft that Iran has are the Tomcats (see Tom Cruise in top Gun) it bought in the late seventies from the US, but even in the Iraq-Iran war (the first Gulf War, Bush seniors war is in fact the second) weren't they a important factor.

They'd be more screwed than we were. Saudi Arabia's main market is Europe, we'd replace their portion with oil that costs more from other countries. We could find China's cheap labor elsewhere, too. More expensive things, certainly, but they can't replace the largest, richest market in the world.
Of course.. the US, the most decadent country in the world, with obesity rate of 80% for population of age 25 or older... *the* megaconsumerist nation that relies heavily on supply from outside.. hahaha.. the US would collapse in an instant, if trade with it would be cut our oil would be stopped.

I think Russia has become Europe's main supplier now. I'd say Libya is soon to be another major exporter to Europe also.
That dosen't mean Saudi Arabia dosen't export most of its oil to Europe, it means that Europe's demand is growing - as is the whole world's. It might have changed, but to where Saudi Arabia's oil is going now is irrelevant except for the fact that it dosen't dominate the US market.

Go for it!.. Would be very intersting to watch.. http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/images/icons/icon10.gif

Have you ever been outside of the US?

He has not, for this kind of people, outside the US means Minnesota.

Yes. Where exactly?

Of course.. the US, the most decadent country in the world, with obesity rate of 80% for population of age 25 or older... *the* consumerist meganation that relies heavily on supply from outside.. hahaha.. the US would collapse in an instant, if trade with it would be cut our oil would be stopped.
If all trade and all oil would be stopped, yes. The entire world economy would collapse is countries did that to the USA.

Where exactly?
Canada, Mexico, Spain, France, and Italy. Nowhere like Iran or Sudan, then again I don't want to keep their governments in power via inaction.

He has not, for this kind of people, outside the US means Minnesota.
You should be deleted and permabanned.

the US can crush Iran just like it can with most nations, you really don't think that a Iranian campaigne would be difficult. The most modern aircraft that Iran has are the Tomcats (see Tom Cruise in top Gun) it bought in the late seventies from the US, but even in the Iraq-Iran war (the first Gulf War, Bush seniors war is in fact the second) weren't they a important factor.

But has the US fought anyone who was happy to throw around chemical weapons like the Iraq/Iran war? If the US did invade Iran, it would be quite happy to use them.

Well I didn't say that but go ahead and think I did if it makes you feel better. I don't know how what I said could have implied that.
Your arrogant attitude that everyone in Iran is unfree and oppressed. Your claim that Americanization means total freedom to those that are being "liberated". Afghanistan or Iraq did not work out that well so far. You think that the US is good enough to manage entire nations, to build them in their own image - and you are gravely mistaken. It is your selfinduced overestimation of your skills that results in a messed up middle east.

Your arrogant attitude that everyone in Iran is unfree and oppressed. Your claim that Americanization means total freedom to those that are being "liberated". Afghanistan or Iraq did not work out that well so far. You think that the US is good enough to manage entire nations, to build them in their own image - and you are gravely mistaken. It is your selfinduced overestimation of your skills that results in a messed up middle east.
I didn't say Americanization = Freedom, that was Bozzy. Try again.

They'd be more screwed than we were. Saudi Arabia's main market is Europe, we'd replace their portion with oil that costs more from other countries
You are plainly wrong. The main supplier of Europe is Russia and other former Soviet Republics.
Though for Japan the Saudis are the main suppliers. Japan gets almost all of its oil from the Middle East. The relationship to Russia is strained due to the Kuril dispute. So therefore Japan has invested little into it.
In contrast to Germany which is Russias biggest trading partner and receives very little from the Middle East: Saudi-Arabian imports are only 3,4% of all oil imports, compared to 30,2% from Russia.
To bother you with some facts.

the US can crush Iran just like it can with most nations, you really don't think that a Iranian campaign would be difficult. The most modern aircraft that Iran has are the Tomcats (see Tom Cruise in top Gun) it bought in the late seventies from the US, but even in the Iraq-Iran war (the first Gulf War, Bush seniors war is in fact the second) weren't they a important factor. Most of Iran's F-14s aren't in use anymore. Their most advanced aircraft is currently the MiG-29, although they don't have very many.

The US could destroy the Iranian government and its military structure but it would face another Vietnam on the ground. The US isn't prepared for a large scale war like that at the moment.

Go for it. It will boost anti American sentiment. Always a good thing.

You are plainly wrong. The main supplier of Europe is Russia and other former Soviet Republics.
Though for Japan the Saudis are the main suppliers. Japan gets almost all of its oil from the Middle East. The relationship to Russia is strained due to the Kuril dispute. So therefore Japan has invested little into it.
In contrast to Germany which is Russias biggest trading partner and receives very little from the Middle East: Saudi-Arabian imports are only 3,4% of all oil imports, compared to 30,2% from Russia.
To bother you with some facts.
As I said, there's a difference between Europe's main supplier being Saudi Arabia and Saudi Arabia's main market being Europe. I'm actually saying something that I read on the forums a while ago when I say this, though, so it could be wrong. To bother you with some English.

And I hope you go to a country like Iran and learn what its like to live there.I have been in both Iran and Iraq...Where have you been?

I have been in both Iran and Iraq...Where have you been?

Well, I've been to Iran as well.. hell, I am of Persian ancestry.

So tell me Kwangistar, since we have both been to Iran, your vision of how life in Iran is like.

I have been in both Iran and Iraq...Where have you been?
Obviously at home, watching propaganda on TV. He has no idea what arab nations are like.

True, Drabikstan,forgot about the great Mig-29. but having your countrty bombed the way the US does would be a dissaster for Iran. You know that it is a nation that deliberatly targets hospitals, schools and about every civilian construction is a target for them (like history showed us) and they allways get away with the excuse "collateral" damage. Imagine that their bombers will attack Iranian weddings the way they did in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Sorry, when your nation is bombed out, you lost the war, even when you can kill some poor GI's (Latino boys fighting in the hope to get the US pasport if they survive, a form of mercenaries, 30% of the ground troops in Iraq are in that situation) on the ground, there is no way to stop the armoured divisions of the US (or other Western nations) in Iran.

Well, I've been to Iran as well.. hell, I am of Persian ancestry.

So tell me Kwangistar, since we have both been to Iran, your vision of how life in Iran is like.
Here it is from Amnesty Libernational :
http://web.amnesty.org/library/eng-irn/news

Obviously at home, watching propaganda on TV. He has no idea what arab nations are like.
If you don't have anything intelligent to say, you really shouldn't post.

Here it is from Amnesty Libernational :
http://web.amnesty.org/library/eng-irn/news


If you don't have anything intelligent to say, you really shouldn't post.
Says the right person who spews propaganda as if it were the words of god himself.

And while we're at it, here's the entry for the US:

http://web.amnesty.org/library/eng-usa/index

The pinnacle of freedom, the beacon of the western world. The representation of the civilized countries of the planet. A pretty bad one imo.

Most of Iran F-14s aren't in use anymore. Their most advanced aircraft is currently the MiG-29, although they don't have very many.Iran does not want a traditional War(w/USA)...they are not stupid...

The problem with the UN is that it has the role of being the nice guy and the bad guy. The UN doesnt want to declare war or sanction countries. And we all know that both of those can be disasters.

How do you punish a leader without punishing their people?

I've been climbing with clients in Southern Iran, 3 years ago. The Persian people were the most friendly people I ever met (and have been around as climber, can tell ya that. One of those climbers now lives and works there, he is married with a Persian and speaks Farsi now. The most safe nation I ever saw on the planet.

Says the right person who spews propaganda as if it were the words of god himself.
All you do is spam "he spews propoganda" "he's just sitting at home watching propoganda". How about you actually provide something intelligent like I said. Apparently AI is propoganda now?

From their report in Iran :
http://www.amnestyusa.org/countries/iran/document.do?id=3ABA252295E8AFD180256E9E005A99CE
Scores of political prisoners, including prisoners of conscience, continued to serve sentences imposed in previous years following unfair trials. Scores more were arrested in 2003, often arbitrarily and many following student demonstrations. At least a dozen political prisoners arrested during the year were detained without charge, trial or regular access to their families and lawyers. Judicial authorities curtailed freedoms of expression, opinion and association, including of ethnic minorities; scores of publications were closed, Internet sites were filtered and journalists were imprisoned. At least one detainee died in custody, reportedly after being beaten. During the year the pattern of harassment of political prisoners' family members re-emerged. At least 108 executions were carried out, including of long-term political prisoners and frequently in public. At least four prisoners were sentenced to death by stoning while at least 197 people were sentenced to be flogged and 11 were sentenced to amputation of fingers and limbs. The true numbers may have been considerably higher.

All you do is spam "he spews propoganda" "he's just sitting at home watching propoganda". How about you actually provide something intelligent like I said. Apparently AI is propoganda now?

From their report in Iran :
http://www.amnestyusa.org/countries/iran/document.do?id=3ABA252295E8AFD180256E9E005A99CE
That says little about civil rights only political.

I'm all for invading Iran, but under a certain set of circumstances. They fall in line behind France and Germany. I think we let the Krauts off way to easy, we should go back for some more payback and turn them into our sissy men.

As for France, I think we should send them a bill for a few trillion dollars for saving their weak arses, and then kick them to the curb yet again.

If those criteria are met first, then we can go into Iran and the rest of the duffus Arab world...

Freedom of speach and opinion, if you don't like it, get in a plane and come over here...I think we can handle that avenue of approach now lol

All you do is spam "he spews propoganda" "he's just sitting at home watching propoganda". How about you actually provide something intelligent like I said. Apparently AI is propoganda now?

From their report in Iran :
http://www.amnestyusa.org/countries/iran/document.do?id=3ABA252295E8AFD180256E9E005A99CE
Well, I've provided the same entry for the US, which is 30 pages, compared to 2 pages from Iran. If anything, the US should clean up their own backyard before they go messing up everyone elses. The US have no moral highground to base their "liberation spree" on. Nothing entitles the US to act as if they are the good guys, when they have more than enough problems at home that need solutions first and foremost.

True, Drabikstan,forgot about the great Mig-29. I'm not sure what version Iran is using. The older versions had some problems but the newer ones are excellent fighters. Either way, Iran's airforce is still lacking.

I've been climbing with clients in Southern Iran, 3 years ago. The Persian people were the most friendly people I ever met (and have been around as climber, can tell ya that. One of those climbers now lives and works there, he is married with a Persian and speaks Farsi now. The most safe nation I ever saw on the planet.

Your just a complete moron...nothing else needs to be said...

Obviously at home, watching propaganda on TV. He has no idea what arab nations are like.
At least he probably knows that Persians (Iranians) are not Arabs.
The speak another language and even follow another string of Islam (shiite) than most Arabs(sunni).

A US extreme republican that comes with Amnesty repports? Boehahahahaha, the USA is the nation that violates about everything, 80% off Amnesty Int. articles in that library are about the US, just had a look, it is full of it.

http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGMDE150482004?open&of=ENG-391

But has the US fought anyone who was happy to throw around chemical weapons like the Iraq/Iran war? If the US did invade Iran, it would be quite happy to use them.

I think you'll find that it was Iraq rather than Iran that made large use of chemical weapons during their war. The Americans only sold WMDs to their friends such as Saddam Hussein.

I reckon that the Iranian military would last longer in the face of an American attack than the Iraqis did simply because, as the Iran-Iraq war itself showed, the Iranian peole are prepared to patriotically resist the hostile incursion of foreign powers. Support among the people would be liable to be even lower than that which the Americans have been forced to deal with in Iraq. Iran is no more likely to be attacked in the present world climate than North Korea or any other "rogue state".

Funny how some people are totally blind...


2nd that ....the Israeli government and their right-wing zionist supporters forget all too readilly that the Holy Land was NOT EMPTY when they arrived to create the State of Israel after the WW2, and that to the even the most casual observer, they appear to be doing to the palestinians that which has done to them (The Jewish People) ever since the Romans destroyed the Temple in 79?AD. Two wrongs will never make a right...atleast not in this case.

Your just a complete moron...nothing else needs to be said...

Just heared that your IP adres is that of Kwangistar ;) BTW, you must be the only living braindonor on the planet. Go back to mummies nipple, scum.

Iran does not want traditional War...they are not stupid... Agreed.

Iran has been very successful in using Hezbollah effectively in a non-conventional way to maintain its influence in Lebanon.

Guys, go ahead and try to change the subject by posting AI's reports on America. You know, if you want to stop talking about how you guys think Iran is such a nice, rosy place.

I'm all for invading Iran, but under a certain set of circumstances. They fall in line behind France and Germany. I think we let the Krauts off way to easy, we should go back for some more payback and turn them into our sissy men.

As for France, I think we should send them a bill for a few trillion dollars for saving their weak arses, and then kick them to the curb yet again.

If those criteria are met first, then we can go into Iran and the rest of the duffus Arab world...

Freedom of speach and opinion, if you don't like it, get in a plane and come over here...I think we can handle that avenue of approach now lol
I'm glad you dont run the US. You'd cause another world war if you attack Germany today.

Your just a complete moron...nothing else needs to be said...
Don't attack other posters, mmmkay?

Just heared that your IP adres is that of Kwangistar ;) BTW, you must be the only living braindonor on the planet. Go back to mummies nipple, scum.
You too.

Just heared that your IP adres is that of Kwangistar ;) BTW, you must be the only living braindonor on the planet. Go back to mummies nipple, scum.
Wishing death, calling people scum, did you just buy a new flamethrower today or something?

Don't attack other posters, mmmkay?

Just putted him on the ignore list so I won't see his Nazi propaganda and bullshit again, I advise you guys to do the same, after all it is just a puppet (heared from a Mod).

Wishing death, calling people scum, did you just buy a new flamethrower today or something?

I was totally yanking your chain, you did not think I was serious, do you?

Just putted him on the ignore list so I won't see his Nazi propaganda and bullshit again, I advise you guys to do the same, after all it is just a puppet (heared from a Mod).
This is not true. Mods do not give out this kind of information. I suggest you stop these attacks now.

I was totally yanking your chain, you did not think I was serious, do you?
I was hoping you were.

This is not true. Mods do not give out this kind of information. I suggest you stop these attacks now.

I suggest you stop hijacking the thread and focuse on the debate. Don't play for MOD.

I suggest you stop hijacking the thread and focuse on the debate. Don't play for MOD.
He is a mod.

I suggest you stop hijacking the thread and focuse on the debate. Don't play for MOD.
*points to Unfree People's forum title*
That is a mod. Don't start a fight with him :p

I'm not sure what version Iran is using. The older versions had some problems but the newer ones are excellent fighters. Either way, Iran's airforce is still lacking.In a traditional War vs the USarmy...Who gives a shiet...wheter your "airforce is lacking"...You maigth not a a single plane...and it would not make a difference....

I'm about to lock this thread and issue you an official warning, Mr Basil Fawlty.

I am a she btw ;)

I was hoping you were.

Off course my dear, way to liberal to wish your death or anyone elses.
And I still think that the US is capable to win a war with Iran, even now with the forces spread out over multiple fronts. I don't see a Vietnam there since most Iranians are against the Ayatollahs and pro reformer Khamenei. But it will cost thousands of US death to, and the risk exists that the pro Khamenei people turn over and form front with the die hard Ayatolahs.

Very few countries could hope to win any kind of traditional war against the US. The key is to keep the body bags coming home until public opinion forces the government to give up, and this is something that to me the Iranians would be quite adept at.

*points to Unfree People's forum title*
That is a mod. Don't start a fight with him :p

Had not seen it, till your post.

I'm about to lock this thread
Why ?

Off course my dear, way to liberal to wish your death or anyone elses.
And I still think that the US is capable to win a war with Iran, even now with the forces spread out over multiple fronts. I don't see a Vietnam there since most Iranians are against the Ayatollahs and pro reformer Khamenei. But it will cost thousands of US death to, and the risk exists that the pro Khamenei people turn over and form front with the die hard Ayatolahs.

All right, that's enough. I am a moderator. This thread is nothing but flames. You're being issued an official warning.