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An unidentified member of the audience pulls the hair of a demonstrator as he forces her out of an auditorium where President Bush (news - web sites) was addressing a crowd of supporters at Byers Choice in Colmar, Pa., Thursday Sept. 9, 2004. Bush's speech focused on the economy. (AP Photo/Jacqueline Larma)

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This is pathetic. You protest Bush and old Republican men pull your hair like a four year old. When are these people going to grow up? They're giving democracy a bad name when they try to silence you during a protest.

They should be ashamed of themselves.

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An unidentified member of the audience pulls the hair of a demonstrator as he forces her out of an auditorium where President Bush (news - web sites) was addressing a crowd of supporters at Byers Choice in Colmar, Pa., Thursday Sept. 9, 2004. Bush's speech focused on the economy. (AP Photo/Jacqueline Larma)

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040909/480/pajl10209091850

This is pathetic. You protest Bush and old Republican men pull your hair like a four year old. When are these people going to grow up? They're giving democracy a bad name when they try to silence you during a protest.

They should be ashamed of themselves.
and guess who was charged with a crime? the lady getting her hair pulled, thats right.

Hey, she asked for it. (Just kidding.)

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An unidentified member of the audience pulls the hair of a demonstrator as he forces her out of an auditorium where President Bush (news - web sites) was addressing a crowd of supporters at Byers Choice in Colmar, Pa., Thursday Sept. 9, 2004. Bush's speech focused on the economy. (AP Photo/Jacqueline Larma)

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040909/480/pajl10209091850

This is pathetic. You protest Bush and old Republican men pull your hair like a four year old. When are these people going to grow up? They're giving democracy a bad name when they try to silence you during a protest.

They should be ashamed of themselves.

Perhaps the protester should have kept the protest outside, and allowed the President to continue his speech in peace.

Bush supporters who've tried to heckle Kerry have met with similiar fates, so neither side can claim the upper hand.

Yea-things suck.

In all fairness:

http://www.enquirer.com/midday/img/kerry/kerry4.jpg

Taunted Kerry about Vietnam.

Is that hairpulling picture the same demonstration as at the RNC where the AIDS demonstrators starting protesting in the auditorium, and the Hitler Youth (sorry, I mean Young RepubliKKKons) started beating them up. One of them was kicking a woman after she had been thrown to the floor.

Fascists.

In all fairness:

http://www.enquirer.com/midday/img/kerry/kerry4.jpg

Taunted Kerry about Vietnam.

That's pathetic too. We're adults here. Why do people like that act like children?

In all fairness:

http://www.enquirer.com/midday/img/kerry/kerry4.jpg

Taunted Kerry about Vietnam.

Both sides are at it? Man these Democrats should be wiping the floor with the RepubliKKKons, but they either screw it up for themselves or fail to define themselves and promote themselves.

We need to stage a demonstration against hair-pulling.

Those two incidents are why I plan to be independent for the rest of my life. Strong opinions are the reason for the head-shoving and hair-pulling.

Is that hairpulling picture the same demonstration as at the RNC where the AIDS demonstrators starting protesting in the auditorium, and the Hitler Youth (sorry, I mean Young RepubliKKKons) started beating them up. One of them was kicking a woman after she had been thrown to the floor.

Fascists.

Yep. And here's that video in case anyone missed it: http://www.actupny.org/reports/rnc_nyc-kicking.mov

Both sides are at it? Man these Democrats should be wiping the floor with the RepubliKKKons, but they either screw it up for themselves or fail to define themselves and promote themselves.
Is there any reason your trolling with the "RepubliKKKon" stuff?

Woah... America... the land of the freeeeee... my ass...
*burns an American flag*

Yeah, how dare these hecklers and protestors oppose free speech and assembly!

*Puts out burning flag*

*Seeing flag is ruined, ceremonially burns it*

theres a different between the two pics

the RNC one is of a 60+ year old man in a business suit pulling maybe a 30 year old womans hair


the DNC is some guy in a baseball cap in his mid 40s shoving down some dude of roughly the same age

but what can you expect from the group who requires loyalty oaths to attend their campaign speeches

Woah... America... the land of the freeeeee... my ass...
*burns an American flag*

*pises on this new symbol of fascism* (sorry for your fire)

No, this is what happens when you decide to act like a retard during a public speech.

This stupid bitch deserved what she got. As did the moron that heckled Kerry.

No, this is what happens when you decide to act like a retard during a public speech.

This stupid bitch deserved what she got. As did the moron that heckled Kerry.

This is a sign that people on both sides have way too much time on their hands. Because when idiots get bored, idiots protest.

See, I'm sexist like this, but I can understand beating the guy, but not the girl. I just don't hurt girls unless it's for a really, really, really good reason. No, that does not include heckling.

*pises on this new symbol of fascism* (sorry for your fire)
*adds a turd to the ash and piss*
:)

*adds a turd to the ash and piss*
:)

You know, it isn't funny one bit. Especially not today.

You know, it isn't at all funny. Especially not today.
Oh sure it is, I'm not affected by the WTC attack, so not much to mourn about ;)

Oh sure it is, I'm not affected by the WTC attack, so not much to mourn about ;)

O, so I guess you can laugh at tragedies so long as they don't affect you. I thought you were just insensitive, but it turns out your an asshole.

What an asshole.

Uh, thanks. I just said that, but thanks for repeating it, cuz I have very short term memory loss.

Uh, thanks. I just said that, but thanks for repeating it, cuz I have very short term memory loss.

Whoops.

At least when I troll Slashdot, I make witty comments on the /. subculture to draw a reaction. Faggottron over here doesn't have the mental capacity to be a proper troll.

O, so I guess you can laugh at tragedies so long as they don't affect you. I thought you were just insensitive, but it turns out your an asshole.
I'm not laughing about the WTC attack. I said, I am not affected by it, thus why I still make jokes about burning an American flag, when I see how Americans themselves ruin their own freedom. The WTC attack was a tragedy, alas the world goes on and you cannot honestly expect the entire world to cower in sorrow as the US of A bask in the glorious light of sympathy after all that the US did during the last 3 years.

I'm not laughing about the WTC attack. I said, I am not affected by it, thus why I still make jokes about burning an American flag, when I see how Americans themselves ruin their own freedom. The WTC attack was a tragedy, alas the world goes on and you cannot honestly expect the entire world to cower in sorrow as the US of A bask in the glorious light of sympathy after all that the US did during the last 3 years.

We don't expect the world to sympathize with us. And since you are a foreigner living in a foreign country, burning the American flag is not exactly a brave act of protest... just following the sheep.

We don't expect the world to sympathize with us. And since you are a foreigner living in a foreign country, burning the American flag is not exactly a brave act of protest... just following the sheep.
Well I dont burn flags. I did it symbolically here for stating that I have more freedom by now than the Americans do in the "land of the freeeeee".

Those two incidents are why I plan to be independent for the rest of my life. Strong opinions are the reason for the head-shoving and hair-pulling.
Yeah, strong opinions must be avoided at all costs, and are caused by partisanship.[/sarcasm]

Both hecklers were in the wrong, but so were the people who manhandled them. Them even more so.

Just a question... what do those people in RL who burn american flags think that thier accomplishing? besides giving buisness to people who sell american flags I mean. Letting us know how much they hate america? newsflash- We don't care what you think of us, and we don't let our actions be ruled by foreign opinions.

I'm not laughing about the WTC attack. I said, I am not affected by it, thus why I still make jokes about burning an American flag, when I see how Americans themselves ruin their own freedom. The WTC attack was a tragedy, alas the world goes on and you cannot honestly expect the entire world to cower in sorrow as the US of A bask in the glorious light of sympathy after all that the US did during the last 3 years.

You know being Germany you owe a lot to America without our help you would still be the third-world country you deserve to be.

Well I dont burn flags. I did it symbolically here for stating that I have more freedom by now than the Americans do in the "land of the freeeeee".

It is 100% legal to burn the American flag in public here, idiot. In most nations (France for example) the burning of the national flag is illegal.

Learn from us, europeons!

It is 100% legal to burn the American flag in public here, idiot. In most nations (France for example) the burning of the national flag is illegal.

Learn from us, europeons!
not that the people on your side of hte political line agree with that ruling

It is 100% legal to burn the American flag in public here, idiot. In most nations (France for example) the burning of the national flag is illegal.

Learn from us, europeons!
Ya in the US things less "anti-american" than this are "illegal". There's just less freedom now in the US. Patriot Act I or II... need I say more?

Just a question... what do those people in RL who burn american flags think that thier accomplishing? besides giving buisness to people who sell american flags I mean. Letting us know how much they hate america? newsflash- We don't care what you think of us, and we don't let our actions be ruled by foreign opinions.
Which is one of the reasons why there is anti-americanism and terrorism. Your arrogance and attitude that the world can fuck itself over, so long as the US are allowed to do whatever they want.

You know being Germany you owe a lot to America without our help you would still be the third-world country you deserve to be.
No. Bye.

not that the people on your side of hte political line agree with that ruling

Not true in the slightest. Im on "his side" of the political line, and I will defend anyone's right to burn the flag. I might try to disuade that person's, but if that person were to come under attack from anyone else, I would defend them, with words or actions whatever was necessary.

not that the people on your side of hte political line agree with that ruling

I support the freedom of speech. Burn the flag if you want, you're the fucking fool that's going to be on TV and mocked by the whole country tonight.

Yeah, how dare these hecklers and protestors oppose free speech and assembly!

*Puts out burning flag*

*Seeing flag is ruined, ceremonially burns it*


hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

This thread and you people are a perfect example of why peace will never ever happen as long as people think this way. Violence is never the answer unless it's in self defense. I'm sure they could of taken that women out without assaulting her, same goes for the man at the Kerry function. It's no wonder why we can't get along with others, we can't even get along with ourselves.

Ya in the US things less "anti-american" than this are "illegal". There's just less freedom now in the US. Patriot Act I or II... need I say more?

Did you read my post? It is legal here.

How'd you know about what's going on in the US if you live in Germany? Oh right, hearsay and rumor.

Did you read my post? It is legal here.

How'd you know about what's going on in the US if you live in Germany? Oh right, hearsay and rumor.
judging by what i have seen from you, he knows just as much if not more, they do have the internet in germany, obviously

I support the freedom of speech. Burn the flag if you want, you're the fucking fool that's going to be on TV and mocked by the whole country tonight.
the fact remains many republicans dont agree with the texas v johnson decision, hate to burst your bubble

Did you read my post? It is legal here.

How'd you know about what's going on in the US if you live in Germany? Oh right, hearsay and rumor.
Ya know, we happen to have electricity. There's something called TV and Internet. We have news papers. Oh my gosh, I'M a student, interested in politics. And I am by now disgusted by the US. I am still amazed what 3 years could do to my attitude towards one of the people of the world that were once considered free and friendly - nowadays the US are considered warmongerers, blinded by a religious crusade and bloodlust. Did you expect anything else?

you're the fucking fool.

I've had just about enough of your flaming of posters. This is the third thread I believe I've seen today where you are either telling people to "Shut the F*ck up" or calling them names. You already have a warning on your nation. One more and it will result in your deletion. Stop it Now!

Stephanie
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Ya know, we happen to have electricity. There's something called TV and Internet. We have news papers. Oh my gosh, I'M a student, interested in politics. And I am by now disgusted by the US. I am still amazed what 3 years could do to my attitude towards one of the people of the world that were once considered free and friendly - nowadays the US are considered warmongerers, blinded by a religious crusade and bloodlust. Did you expect anything else?

Religious crusade and bloodlust? Is that what the German media tells you?

Not surprisingly, really.

Religious crusade and bloodlust? Is that what the German media tells you?

Not surprisingly, really.
and fox news tells you bush is god, anyoen who disagrees is unamerican

and fox news tells you bush is god, anyoen who disagrees is unamerican

You've obviously never watched Foxnews.

You've obviously never watched Foxnews.
i've heard hannity talk, ive read transcripts of fox shows, ive seen quotes from billy boy

You've obviously never watched Foxnews.
It is not what the German media tells me. I make up my own mind and what I said is the opinion I see of many people outside of the US. And sadly, today I agree with everyone who dislikes the US for the last 3 years. I wonder how you will ever repair this or does Bush think he can wage wars and spread fear of terrorism forever?

Is that hairpulling picture the same demonstration as at the RNC where the AIDS demonstrators starting protesting in the auditorium, and the Hitler Youth (sorry, I mean Young RepubliKKKons) started beating them up. One of them was kicking a woman after she had been thrown to the floor.

Fascists.

That will teach them to protest against bush at a pro-Bush convention/rally :D

"There's something called TV and Internet. We have news papers."
there is also such a thing as propoganda, and from your posts i would say you've been reading a crapload of it.

It is not what the German media tells me. I make up my own mind and what I said is the opinion I see of many people outside of the US. And sadly, today I agree with everyone who dislikes the US for the last 3 years. I wonder how you will ever repair this or does Bush think he can wage wars and spread fear of terrorism forever?

I've stopped caring about international opinion even before I moved to the US.

i've heard hannity talk, ive read transcripts of fox shows, ive seen quotes from billy boy

From what sources?

Have you ever sat down and just watched Brit Hume or Bill O'Reilly? Obviously not.

"There's something called TV and Internet. We have news papers."
there is also such a thing as propoganda, and from your posts i would say you've been reading a crapload of it.
The same can be applied to you.

I've stopped caring about international opinion even before I moved to the US.
Good idea! Heil Hitler!!! *shakes head*
International opinion = support for causes or protest against them. If you ignore the world, why are you in the UN at all?

I've stopped caring about international opinion even before I moved to the US.
And the rest of the world has stopped caring for us. As the USSR fell, so may we, and the international community may be interested in bringing us down.

Additionally, I have no intention of staying in the US. Just a bit more time, and I can move to Vancouver...

Your entitled to your opinion.

From what sources?

Have you ever sat down and just watched Brit Hume or Bill O'Reilly? Obviously not.
quotes like "anyone who protests the war with iraq will be considered unpatriotic by me" are self explanatory

You've obviously never watched Foxnews.


I have.

Thats precisely what they are trying to make you believe.

Good idea! Heil Hitler!!! *shakes head*
International opinion = support for causes or protest against them. If you ignore the world, why are you in the UN at all?

I think the US should immediately withdraw from the UN.

FYI, Hitler had many international supporters. Why you compare my decision to ignore "international opinion" to the German public in the 1930's is beyond me.

"There's something called TV and Internet. We have news papers."
there is also such a thing as propoganda, and from your posts i would say you've been reading a crapload of it.
I've been reading "libertarian" news sources and these forums. I see documentaries. I see when something is propaganda. Like the US political propaganda war DNC vs RNC - Kerry vs Bush is an amazing display of propaganda. Fox News is propaganda. I am not subject to propaganda here. German television is not anti-American nor pro-American. If there was propaganda, I'd see through it quickly.

quotes like "anyone who protests the war with iraq will be considered unpatriotic by me" are self explanatory

So no, you haven never watched Foxnews? OK.

The "International community" dosen't have the guts to take on the US, so I don't see that happening anytime soon. For now they seem to be content with attacking us with vicious rhetoric, which we can easily ignore.

I think the US should immediately withdraw from the UN.

FYI, Hitler had many international supporters. Why you compare my decision to ignore "international opinion" to the German public in the 1930's is beyond me.
Because many people still think that Germans are nazis and we'd love nothing more than Hitler reincarnated, which is wrong. It is not international opinion anymore, but we had to work hard for it. International opinion of the US is pretty bad right now, which does not get you much support in the "war against terrorism" or for anything else.

The "International community" dosen't have the guts to take on the US, so I don't see that happening anytime soon. For now they seem to be content with attacking us with vicious rhetoric, which we can easily ignore.
Or with planes into your skyscrapers... though Osama is not international opinion, he uses the regional anti-Americanism in the arab world for his own agenda, which led to 9/11.

The "International community" dosen't have the guts to take on the US, so I don't see that happening anytime soon. For now they seem to be content with attacking us with vicious rhetoric, which we can easily ignore.
Tick them off enough, and then they may. They certainly have the power. But, military force is not necessarily what I'm talking about. I was thinking more of things like trade blocks and etc. And if we were to nuke them, well, so much for our international trade partners.

my little sister pulls hair when she doesn't agree with someone.

what the hell is wrong with the 50+ year old man who is doing so?

my little sister pulls hair when she doesn't agree with someone.

what the hell is wrong with the 50+ year old man who is doing so?
The same that is wrong with your sister apparently. Some violent tendencies perhaps? If it manifests at this early age, your sister surely will grow to be a threat to society and should be locked up now, before she can murder someone.

*raises Old Glory in hopes to shedding some true patriotism in the dark that is America*

Not to insult the UK, but America has become to Americans what the English were to the Americans prior to and during the Revolutionary War. And it is so amazing to see how many Americans stand with a government that - unsurprisingly - steps on them again and again.

Both parties that assaulted protesters were in the wrong, and so long as we have such ignorantly devoted fools striving to promote a corrupt government - of any political orientation, America will continue to be hailed as a hypocritical nation and a target for terrorism. 'Growing up' will not solve the problem. A better government will, but that can only be achieved when Americans extract their heads from their tight anal cavities, wipe the feces from their eyes, and open their rather size-challenged minds.

And to the Americans that frequent this thread at the moment, I would like to know how much television you watch, how much propaganda you swallow, and how much of history you truly know? I won't say that I am all knowledgable, and myself am ignorant in regards to several points of view in regards to historical events, but at least I can say I don't believe what the government tells me to believe, do what the government tells me to do, and act and think as the government commands me to do. As an American myself, I find it troubling that so many 'free minded individuals' can believe so fanatically in our country.

"If there was propaganda, I'd see through it quickly."
thats what is really sad, you don't realize it's propaganda.
I realize what we know as the "news" is usually propaganda, I don't base my opinions on what the media says, wheather the specific source supports my core beleifs or not.

"If there was propaganda, I'd see through it quickly."
thats what is really sad, you don't realize it's propaganda.
I realize what we know as the "news" is usually propaganda, I don't base my opinions on what the media says, wheather the specific source supports my core beleifs or not.
See, neither do I base my opinion on what the media says. Although it helps seeing things from the outside.

"Or with planes into your skyscrapers... though Osama is not international opinion, he uses the regional anti-Americanism in the arab world for his own agenda, which led to 9/11. "

which is precisly why we dont ignore him or his followers.

"Or with planes into your skyscrapers... though Osama is not international opinion, he uses the regional anti-Americanism in the arab world for his own agenda, which led to 9/11. "

which is precisly why we dont ignore him or his followers.
Nobody asks you to ignore him or al-qaeda. But waging wars in the middle east only fuels the fire as you see with much increased terrorism in the world.

Well.....I guess we don't have free speech anymore. I better shave off all my hair if I plan to protest.

Ya know, we happen to have electricity.
Wow! I guess the Americans decided not to pay a visit recently, eh? After all, there is a potenial for a terrorist threat. After all, you guys did have Hitler at the helm... :rolleyes:

There's something called TV and Internet.
NIFTY! What an age of wonders we live in!

We have news papers.
OOOooooo!! And that is thanks to a German, Johannes Gutenburg (my spelling of names sucks) who invent the printing press.

Oh my gosh, I'M a student, interested in politics.
same here! ^_^

And I am by now disgusted by the US. I am still amazed what 3 years could do to my attitude towards one of the people of the world that were once considered free and friendly - nowadays the US are considered warmongerers, blinded by a religious crusade and bloodlust.

Look at it this way; they aren't your loudmouth neighbours; they're just the losers/assholes/morons/(whatever random sarcastic you want to insert here) in the bad part of the city you hear about on the news but never have to deal with ;)

But, I do agree with your last statement; they are pretty much for the most part like that. I really want to leave Canada, just so I don't have to put up with them as neighbours any more. I mean, sure, a few are ok, but, generally, I find them repulsive (MY OPINION!! NOT A FLAME!!)

Did you expect anything else?
I don't expect anything less.

Wow! I guess the Americans decided not to pay a visit recently, eh? After all, there is a potenial for a terrorist threat. After all, you guys did have Hitler at the helm... :rolleyes:


NIFTY! What an age of wonders we live in!


OOOooooo!! And that is thanks to a German, Johannes Gutenburg (my spelling of names sucks) who invent the printing press.


same here! ^_^



Look at it this way; they aren't your loudmouth neighbours; they're just the losers/assholes/morons/(whatever random sarcastic you want to insert here) in the bad part of the city you hear about on the news but never have to deal with ;)

But, I do agree with your last statement; they are pretty much for the most part like that. I really want to leave Canada, just so I don't have to put up with them as neighbours any more. I mean, sure, a few are ok, but, generally, I find them repulsive (MY OPINION!! NOT A FLAME!!)


I don't expect anything less.
FYI, I think Canada is a wonderful country and Canadians are ok ;)

So, back to the two pictures, does this mean that the Democrats are manly men who pick on other men their own size while the Republicans are girly hair pullers? :D

Gigatron, Chess Squares, Pan-Arab Israel: You have been most severly bitchslapped for the high crime of thread hijacking, further punishment is to include being paraded down the street with your pants down so people can laugh at you.

But yeah, Democrats fight fairly, but Republicans are hair-pullers that pick on women.

Don't pick on Women you Republican Girlie-men! Nlah'hl Nlah'hl Nalh'hl

Gigatron, Chess Squares, Pan-Arab Israel: You have been most severly bitchslapped for the high crime of thread hijacking, further punishment is to include being paraded down the street with your pants down so people can laugh at you.

But yeah, Democrats fight fairly, but Republicans are hair-pullers that pick on women.

Don't pick on Women you Republican Girlie-men! Nlah'hl Nlah'hl Nalh'hl
Does that qualify as terrorism yet?

Stay on Topic. Do NOT make me bitchslap you again

Is that hairpulling picture the same demonstration as at the RNC where the AIDS demonstrators starting protesting in the auditorium, and the Hitler Youth (sorry, I mean Young RepubliKKKons) started beating them up. One of them was kicking a woman after she had been thrown to the floor.

Fascists.
You are a sad little person.

Perhaps the protester should have kept the protest outside, and allowed the President to continue his speech in peace.

Bush supporters who've tried to heckle Kerry have met with similiar fates, so neither side can claim the upper hand.
perhaps the protester shouldve kneed that old fuck in the balls

You are a sad little person.
and your a violent primate

perhaps the protester shouldve kneed that old fuck in the balls

No, because then she would have gotten arrested for assualt and battery? Why? Because justice favors the rich, and just a suspicion, but I think the old guy has more money than her

I've had just about enough of your flaming of posters. This is the third thread I believe I've seen today where you are either telling people to "Shut the F*ck up" or calling them names. You already have a warning on your nation. One more and it will result in your deletion. Stop it Now!

Stephanie
Game Moderator

Didnt want to do this here, but I cant seem to send a message to you privately. I would like to discuss this post with you in a private venue, if that were at all possible.

No, because then she would have gotten arrested for assualt and battery? Why? Because justice favors the rich, and just a suspicion, but I think the old guy has more money than her
well she could use this pic not only to acquit herself but to sue him for assault and sue the cops for false arrest

You forget what country this is, A burglar can sue someone if they hurt themselves robbing a house.

You forget what country this is, A burglar can sue someone if they hurt themselves robbing a house.
I think those kinda cases should be laffed out of court

She needed it.

and your a violent primate
So says the person advocating violent infiltration of private events. Let me know when you climb out of the primordial soup.

No, this is what happens when you decide to act like a retard during a public speech.

This stupid bitch deserved what she got. As did the moron that heckled Kerry.
Pulling the lady's hair is a cowardly act and I truly hope that picture makes it to all of his friends, family and fellow workers to show how nice a guy he is. I wonder if he goes to church? If he does then he can ask for forgiveness.

You support this cowardly action Tyrandis? Pity. :(

Pulling the lady's hair is a cowardly act and I truly hope that picture makes it to all of his friends, family and fellow workers to show how nice a guy he is. I wonder if he goes to church? If he does then he can ask for forgiveness.

You support this cowardly action Tyrandis? Pity. :(

UHHHHH he pulled her hair not killed her.

*raises Old Glory in hopes to shedding some true patriotism in the dark that is America*

Not to insult the UK, but America has become to Americans what the English were to the Americans prior to and during the Revolutionary War. And it is so amazing to see how many Americans stand with a government that - unsurprisingly - steps on them again and again.

Both parties that assaulted protesters were in the wrong, and so long as we have such ignorantly devoted fools striving to promote a corrupt government - of any political orientation, America will continue to be hailed as a hypocritical nation and a target for terrorism. 'Growing up' will not solve the problem. A better government will, but that can only be achieved when Americans extract their heads from their tight anal cavities, wipe the feces from their eyes, and open their rather size-challenged minds.

And to the Americans that frequent this thread at the moment, I would like to know how much television you watch, how much propaganda you swallow, and how much of history you truly know? I won't say that I am all knowledgable, and myself am ignorant in regards to several points of view in regards to historical events, but at least I can say I don't believe what the government tells me to believe, do what the government tells me to do, and act and think as the government commands me to do. As an American myself, I find it troubling that so many 'free minded individuals' can believe so fanatically in our country.
I hear you loud and clear. When Bush was first elected as President, I was not overly impressed but being a Canadian, I was not overly concerned either.

That all changed on Sept. 11, 2001. When I saw that 2nd plane fly into the WTC, I was in shock. I could watch no more and I was upset. When Bush called for retaliation against the Taliban and Afghanistan, I was all for it, and hoped that it would be quick and decisive.

It was quick but it has been anything but decisive. It quickly dissolved into a mission "not accomplished", Bin Laden got away, and Bush started beating the war drum to summon up the troops to attack Iraq. WTF is that all about?

March 20, 2003 and the US invaded Iraq and I felt the same sense of shock that I felt on Sept. 11, 2001, but obviously I didn't get to feel the "shock and awe" campaign to same degree that innocent Iraqis did.

There are what, 15,000 troops in Afghanistan and over 150,000 in Iraq. Bush declared "mission accomplished" in May and it was just the beginning.

Two "missions", nothing accomplished. From decisive to divisive in such a short period of time. The war on terrorism has been lost and the number of attacks has grown. Strike 3 George. You're OUT!!

UHHHHH he pulled her hair not killed her.
You support assault? I am not surprised?

Like I said...hope his family and friends get to see his uncontrollable anger. There is far too much anger in this world, and zero tolerance. Hell meet handbasket we have travelled the road.

UHHHHH he pulled her hair not killed her.
Why couldn't he just give her a good open-handed smack across the face like a real man instead of resorting to hair-pulling? What is he, some kind of girlie-man? [/sarcasm]

Woah... America... the land of the freeeeee... my ass...
*burns an American flag* that had to be the most stupid thing I have read yet. true my fellow Republicans acted like children but as you all know so did some Democrats. :upyours:

You support assault? I am not surprised?

Like I said...hope his family and friends get to see his uncontrollable anger. There is far too much anger in this world, and zero tolerance. Hell meet handbasket we have travelled the road.

Wow, now you're a psycic too? Pretty impressive resume you're racking up there CanuckHeaven.

Just how is it you know that man has uncontrollable anger?

Or perhaps he's part of the security, who's job it is to remove protesters from the hall... Now we all know that if a security person goes up to a protestor and says "would you please come with me" that protestor goes along peacably. Much more likely is that she resisted his attempt to remove her from the hall and he was using what force he felt necessary to detain her.

I dont know, I wasnt there. You however, along with the rest of the anti-bush people feel that she was just innocently sitting there, not doing anything wrong and was "assaulted" out of the blue.

What are the powerball numbers going to be this week btw?

Pulling the lady's hair is a cowardly act and I truly hope that picture makes it to all of his friends, family and fellow workers to show how nice a guy he is. I wonder if he goes to church? If he does then he can ask for forgiveness.

You support this cowardly action Tyrandis? Pity. :(
You don't even know the situation, what happened leading up to the moment that picture was taken. How do you know he didn't grab for her shoulder, and get hair on accident. How do you know he didn't let go immediatly? You jump to the defense of someone breaking the law, when you don't even know what she was doing.

You don't even know the situation, what happened leading up to the moment that picture was taken. How do you know he didn't grab for her shoulder, and get hair on accident. How do you know he didn't let go immediatly? You jump to the defense of someone breaking the law, when you don't even know what she was doing.
He has two hands full of hair, and his fists are clenched.

She is breaking the law? How so, please explain?

Do you know what she was doing?

Do you also advocate assault as well?

Do you condone this cowardly action?

Do they hire security guards that old?

Wow, now you're a psycic too? Pretty impressive resume you're racking up there CanuckHeaven.

Just how is it you know that man has uncontrollable anger?

Or perhaps he's part of the security, who's job it is to remove protesters from the hall... Now we all know that if a security person goes up to a protestor and says "would you please come with me" that protestor goes along peacably. Much more likely is that she resisted his attempt to remove her from the hall and he was using what force he felt necessary to detain her.

I dont know, I wasnt there. You however, along with the rest of the anti-bush people feel that she was just innocently sitting there, not doing anything wrong and was "assaulted" out of the blue.

What are the powerball numbers going to be this week btw?
See above. ^^

My experience in other lectures and political rallies disrupted by protestors from the Left have been all sorts of outrageous behavior - shoutdowns, intimidation of people at teh event, even attempts at assaulting the speaker.

I don't know what teh particulars were at this event, but like the people who consider this lady innocent and assualted unfairly I have a bias too - I think she decided not to leave the event after trying to disrupt it, then resisted being removed.

What proof do I have? The same proof as those knocking Bush.

He has two hands full of hair, and his fists are clenched.

Well, since he's so old as you adroitly pointed out, he had to make sure he had a good grip? I wasnt there, neither were you (Im assuming, please correct me if Im wrong), I dont know, neither do you.

She is breaking the law? How so, please explain?

Perhaps she was trying to shoot the president, perhaps she was trying to throw eggs at him. I wasnt there, neither were you, I dont know neither do you.

Do you know what she was doing?

I wasnt there, neither were you, I dont know neither do you.

Do you also advocate assault as well?

It wasnt assault if he was apprehending someone, or attempting to remove someone who is resisting arrest. I wasnt there, neither were you, I dont know neither do you.

Do you condone this cowardly action?

Again with the psychic stuff.... How do you know it was "cowardly"? I wasnt there, neither were you, I dont know neither do you.

Do they hire security guards that old?

Yes, sometimes.. if they are qualified. Would you deny someone a job simply because of their age? Sound pretty prejudicial of you.

Well, since he's so old as you adroitly pointed out, he had to make sure he had a good grip? I wasnt there, neither were you (Im assuming, please correct me if Im wrong), I dont know, neither do you.



Perhaps she was trying to shoot the president, perhaps she was trying to throw eggs at him. I wasnt there, neither were you, I dont know neither do you.



I wasnt there, neither were you, I dont know neither do you.



It wasnt assault if he was apprehending someone, or attempting to remove someone who is resisting arrest. I wasnt there, neither were you, I dont know neither do you.



Again with the psychic stuff.... How do you know it was "cowardly"? I wasnt there, neither were you, I dont know neither do you.



Yes, sometimes.. if they are qualified. Would you deny someone a job simply because of their age? Sound pretty prejudicial of you.
Pretty defensive of this guy's actions huh?

My comment was based on the comments of the other posters here, who stated:

Enodscopia: She needed it.

Paxania: Yeah, how dare these hecklers and protestors oppose free speech and assembly!

Tyrandis: No, this is what happens when you decide to act like a retard during a public speech.

This stupid bitch deserved what she got.

Grays Hill: That will teach them to protest against bush at a pro-Bush convention/rally

MunkeBrain: So says the person advocating violent infiltration of private events.

Don't preach to me about bias. If this is normal Republican behaviour in a "free society", then I pity the society that you are trying to defend.

This is a sad statement not just to the US but the whole world. Is this the type of "freedom" you want to give to Iraq? Give me a break!!

BTW, from Post # 1 in this thread:

"An unidentified member of the audience pulls the hair of a demonstrator"

UHHHHH he pulled her hair not killed her.

Pulling hair is the most juvenile thing an adult can do, no?

I think that old guy needs a nap. No cookies for him. :rolleyes:

You however, along with the rest of the anti-bush people feel that she was just innocently sitting there, not doing anything wrong and was "assaulted" out of the blue.
You have talked about me making assumptions (you call it "psychic" ability) , well let me dissect this comment that you made about me.

Did I say that she was sitting there innocently? NO.

Did I say that she wasn't doing anything wrong? NO

Do you think I was defending her because she is a Democrat? If you say yes, then you would be wrong again. I would defend her right to "free" speech, and I would defend her right not to be "assaulted", and the "assault" is clearly evidenced by the picture. Furthermore, where I come from, it is cowardly to assault a woman. Shall I add you to the list of people who feel this type of action (assault) is appropriate in a "free" society?

You have talked about me making assumptions (you call it "psychic" ability) , well let me dissect this comment that you made about me.

Did I say that she was sitting there innocently? NO.

Did I say that she wasn't doing anything wrong? NO

Do you think I was defending her because she is a Democrat? If you say yes, then you would be wrong again. I would defend her right to "free" speech, and I would defend her right not to be "assaulted", and the "assault" is clearly evidenced by the picture. Furthermore, where I come from, it is cowardly to assault a woman. Shall I add you to the list of people who feel this type of action (assault) is appropriate in a "free" society?

But you still insist this was an assault. If it were security involved in removing a protestor who was resisting arrest then it was not assault. Im saying I dont know, you dont know. Yet you keep talking about it being a cowardly attack on a woman.

As to your assertion about "unidentified" member of the audience, he's just that... he couldnt be identified. He just might be a member of security. Nobody knows here.

You don't even know the situation, what happened leading up to the moment that picture was taken. How do you know he didn't grab for her shoulder, and get hair on accident. How do you know he didn't let go immediatly? You jump to the defense of someone breaking the law, when you don't even know what she was doing.
the only one who broke the law was that hair pullen sissy

But you still insist this was an assault. If it were security involved in removing a protestor who was resisting arrest then it was not assault. Im saying I dont know, you dont know. Yet you keep talking about it being a cowardly attack on a woman.

As to your assertion about "unidentified" member of the audience, he's just that... he couldnt be identified. He just might be a member of security. Nobody knows here.
its pretty obvious TheOneRule has the same values of a wife beater

But you still insist this was an assault. If it were security involved in removing a protestor who was resisting arrest then it was not assault. Im saying I dont know, you dont know. Yet you keep talking about it being a cowardly attack on a woman.

As to your assertion about "unidentified" member of the audience, he's just that... he couldnt be identified. He just might be a member of security. Nobody knows here.


Might be a member of security? So the US is now employing the Gestapo to 'protect' their interests? TheOneRule, no offense directed toward you, but unless evidence can be offered - CanuckHeaven (I get that right?) same for you on both accounts - I would say drop the hypothetical back and forth. With that said, I would lean toward this 'not' being an assault. Why?

What crime did she enact to be considered resisting arrest? I'm quite sure that if it were an attack on the President, or anything similar to such a severe action -there would have been a lot more news coverage-. Since there is not, then she was a protestor at her worst, verbally defying the President and his lackeys. But that would be a crime, wouldn't it. Of course the Government is always going to be right about what it does, because they have their Gestapo to make even innocent protestors seem more brutal unpatriotic terrorists.

Did I ever mention I love being an American? Can you note the sarcasm, how the words drip with it? Just because they tie your wrists with silk and do not bind them with cold iron doesn't mean you're free.

"Ignorance is the Shield of America; Stupidity the Weapon of Choice - We have a choice? No."

Me: Madam, what have you learnt from this experience?
Woman: To take a large blunt object with me next time I protest in the White House.

Might be a member of security? So the US is now employing the Gestapo to 'protect' their interests? TheOneRule, no offense directed toward you, but unless evidence can be offered - CanuckHeaven (I get that right?) same for you on both accounts - I would say drop the hypothetical back and forth. With that said, I would lean toward this 'not' being an assault. Why?

What crime did she enact to be considered resisting arrest? I'm quite sure that if it were an attack on the President, or anything similar to such a severe action -there would have been a lot more news coverage-. Since there is not, then she was a protestor at her worst, verbally defying the President and his lackeys. But that would be a crime, wouldn't it. Of course the Government is always going to be right about what it does, because they have their Gestapo to make even innocent protestors seem more brutal unpatriotic terrorists.

Did I ever mention I love being an American? Can you note the sarcasm, how the words drip with it? Just because they tie your wrists with silk and do not bind them with cold iron doesn't mean you're free.

"Ignorance is the Shield of America; Stupidity the Weapon of Choice - We have a choice? No."

You talk about dropping the hypothetical yet you equate the US with Nazi Germany? Since no one here knows what happened in that picture, all we have is the hypothetical.

Im afraid your hatred for your own country has made you susceptible to leftist propaganda, and made yourself ignorant of life around you.

You talk about dropping the hypothetical yet you equate the US with Nazi Germany? Since no one here knows what happened in that picture, all we have is the hypothetical.

Im afraid your hatred for your own country has made you susceptible to leftist propaganda, and made yourself ignorant of life around you.
the picture speaks louder then your spin